Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:14 AM - Xtra (pat ladd)
2. 04:39 AM - Re: Xtra (Michael Sharp)
3. 05:10 AM - Re: Bryan Melborn's builder's fee (N27SB@aol.com)
4. 05:40 AM - Kolb on Lotus (Diego Ospina)
5. 05:49 AM - Re: Xtra (Larry Bourne)
6. 05:52 AM - Re: Kolb on Lotus (Blumax008@aol.com)
7. 06:28 AM - Re: How tight the tail wires... (Blumax008@aol.com)
8. 11:30 AM - Re: Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? (flht99reh)
9. 11:30 AM - Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (pat ladd)
10. 11:48 AM - Re: Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Michael Sharp)
11. 01:40 PM - How tight the tail wires? 1.80 SARE_ADLTSUB2 Contains possible adult words (Lanny Fetterman)
12. 01:40 PM - Re: Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Gary r. voigt)
13. 01:43 PM - Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (JetPilot)
14. 01:50 PM - How tight the tail wires? (Lanny Fetterman)
15. 02:16 PM - Re: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Chris Mallory)
16. 02:25 PM - Re: Bryan Melborn's builder's fee (Mike Schnabel)
17. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Gary r. voigt)
18. 04:57 PM - Wing Attach Fittings (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
19. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Larry Bourne)
20. 05:39 PM - Re: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Larry Bourne)
21. 05:48 PM - Re: Wing Attach Fittings (Larry Bourne)
22. 06:48 PM - How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?... (David.Lehman)
23. 07:20 PM - Re: Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? (JW Hauck)
24. 07:23 PM - Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (JetPilot)
25. 07:26 PM - Re: How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?... (JetPilot)
26. 07:58 PM - Re: Wing Attach Fittings (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
27. 08:09 PM - Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Don G)
28. 08:21 PM - Re: Wing Attach Fittings (Larry Bourne)
29. 08:32 PM - pitot tube (robert bean)
30. 09:15 PM - Re: Re: How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?... (Kolbdriver)
31. 10:22 PM - Re: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin (DAquaNut@aol.com)
32. 10:25 PM - Re: Rotax 277 (DAquaNut@aol.com)
33. 11:55 PM - Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines (dralle@matronics.com)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Hi all,
some movement at last.
Permission to test fly my Xtra, registered G-PLAD, came through this morning. There
is some confusion over the MAUW but Kiwimick, who will complete the test
flying is sorting this out.
The permission to test which Mick will do as designated pilot, is good until End
of Feb. A restricted flying area for a specified time then follows and I hope
to be able to complete that myself at my home field. Getting it home from Micks
field, about 150 miles away, will entail a one off positioning flight for
which permision should be forthcoming easily.
Micks field is completely fogged in today. Vis at my field is under VFR limits.
Hey Ho !
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
Way cool Pat...
Keep us posted.
pat ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd"
Hi all,
some movement at last.
Permission to test fly my Xtra, registered G-PLAD, came through this morning. There
is some confusion over the MAUW but Kiwimick, who will complete the test
flying is sorting this out.
The permission to test which Mick will do as designated pilot, is good until End
of Feb. A restricted flying area for a specified time then follows and I hope
to be able to complete that myself at my home field. Getting it home from Micks
field, about 150 miles away, will entail a one off positioning flight for
which permision should be forthcoming easily.
Micks field is completely fogged in today. Vis at my field is under VFR limits.
Hey Ho !
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Bryan Melborn's builder's fee |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 2/1/2006 1:39:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
perezmdomenic@plateautel.net writes:
So if I may be so bold, what does it cost to have Bryan Melborn build a
Firestar II?
Dom,
Bryan does not usually monitor the list so maybe I can help. Since the FSII
is not part 103, technically It has to be 51% built by the owner. However,
both Quickbuild and Builder Assist options are available. You can reach Bryan
at Custom Air 606 682 0645. You are correct about Bryan's work. It is always
Show Quality. He can also be reached through TNK 606 862 9692
Steve Boetto
FF #007/Floats
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Diego Ospina <dospi@epm.net.co>
Hello All;
Is anyone in this list flying or has flown a Mark III with the Full Lotus
monohull 2000 float?
Diego Ospina
Flying Mark III in Colombia
dospi@epm.net.co
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Man, I'll bet you're chomping at the bit, eh ?? Good Luck, Pat, I hope that
notorious British weather co-operates for you. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:11 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Xtra
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> Hi all,
> some movement at last.
>
> Permission to test fly my Xtra, registered G-PLAD, came through this
> morning. There is some confusion over the MAUW but Kiwimick, who will
> complete the test flying is sorting this out.
>
> The permission to test which Mick will do as designated pilot, is good
> until End of Feb. A restricted flying area for a specified time then
> follows and I hope to be able to complete that myself at my home field.
> Getting it home from Micks field, about 150 miles away, will entail a one
> off positioning flight for which permision should be forthcoming easily.
>
> Micks field is completely fogged in today. Vis at my field is under VFR
> limits. Hey Ho !
>
> Pat
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb on Lotus |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
In a message dated 2/1/2006 8:41:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
dospi@epm.net.co writes:
Is anyone in this list flying or has flown a Mark III with the Full Lotus
monohull 2000 float?
Diego...Que Paso Hombre?
I can get you the email address for the owner of Full Lotus if you like.
Also, can get you the email of a person that has experience installing the Full
Lotus on Kolbs but do not know if he has installed them on a Mark III.
Probably doesn't make much difference. He can give you a lot of advice & would
probably even fly to Colombia to install them for you...for a price of course.
Hasta Luego!
Bill Catalina
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| Subject: | Re: How tight the tail wires... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
Hey Guys,
I do aerial photography here in Florida using a Firestar. Bought it
recently. Love that windshield! Had it at 12,000 feet yesterday but MAN was it
ever
freezing my --- off.
When you're up that high looking at the world, sometimes you get to thinking
bad thoughts. Not nasty thoughts, though sometimes I think that too...but
thoughts like that itty bitty AN3 bolt & nut holding my horizontal feathers on.
Does anyone know how tight those wires should be? When I tip the wires with
my fingers I get a fine hmmmm to it & it seems awful drum tight. Has anyone
ever replaced the bolt with an AN4?
I do some crazy crap but you can tell I'm a chicken sh-t at heart! It's just
that I fly Trikes too and the cables on Trikes are like the ones on the
suspension bridge across Tampa Bay. Not used to this itty bitty stuff.
Bill Catalina
Ochlockonee Bay, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net>
Robert, I would have to say that it depends on which eye one winks with and
which eye has the patch. I'm not paid to think as a male topless dancer,
just shake my tail feather and run like $#
% !
And speaking about shaking....Would someone wake and shake John H. He hasn't
said anything lately. John if you're reading, move something. My ex-employer
used to say that it was the only way he knew if someone was still alive! HA,
HA. That and watch who comes in on pay day!
Ralph, the good one from Ohio (like there are any bad ones anywhere in the
USA).
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
If you wink, and you have an eye-patch, isn't that technically a blink?
> > without the neck and back brace :( , and sometimes without the
> > eye-patch [Wink] . I hoping that if I continue doing what I doing and
add
do not archive
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| Subject: | Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Hi All,
I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of you hot shot
pilots might like a try at this.
My best so far is 11.025 secs
Good luck
Pat
----- Original Message -----
From:, February 01, 2006 2:09 PM
Subject: FW: COOL GAME TO PLAY....
You are the pilot, how long can you go with this? I'm good for about 8 secs.
Jerry
Very difficult at first. However, all you coordinated folks should master this
game in short order! The object of the game is to move the red block around without
getting hit by the blue blocks or touching the black walls. If you can go
longer than 18 seconds you are phenomenal It's been said that the US Air Force
uses this for fighter pilots. They are expected to go for at least 2 minutes.
Give it a try!!
http://tinyurl.com/56t9u
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
Kewl,
19.304sec... I'll try harder when i'm not at work...
Do Not Archive
pat ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd"
Hi All,
I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of you hot shot
pilots might like a try at this.
My best so far is 11.025 secs
Good luck
Pat
----- Original Message -----
From:, February 01, 2006 2:09 PM
Subject: FW: COOL GAME TO PLAY....
You are the pilot, how long can you go with this? I'm good for about 8 secs. Jerry
Very difficult at first. However, all you coordinated folks should master this
game in short order! The object of the game is to move the red block around without
getting hit by the blue blocks or touching the black walls. If you can go
longer than 18 seconds you are phenomenal It's been said that the US Air Force
uses this for fighter pilots. They are expected to go for at least 2 minutes.
Give it a try!!
http://tinyurl.com/56t9u
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| Subject: | How tight the tail wires? 1.80 SARE_ADLTSUB2 Contains |
possible adult words
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net>
Bill and all, I asked Dennis this question once and his answer was, as
tight as I could get them using only my fingers on the wing nut. Lanny
Fetterman N598LF Firestar II
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
ok...this gets addicting...19.281, my mother always said i had good
hand/eye cordnation. btw i'am good with handguns too...picking grouse out at
55 yards no scope. it's all about knowing your gun. sorry this off the topic
a little but ultralight comments get boring after a while, specially when ya
sold yers.
thanks,
Gary r. voigt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Sharp" <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY....
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
>
> Kewl,
>
> 19.304sec... I'll try harder when i'm not at work...
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> pat ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd"
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of you
hot shot pilots might like a try at this.
>
> My best so far is 11.025 secs
>
> Good luck
>
> Pat
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:, February 01, 2006 2:09 PM
> Subject: FW: COOL GAME TO PLAY....
>
>
> You are the pilot, how long can you go with this? I'm good for about 8
secs. Jerry
>
>
> Very difficult at first. However, all you coordinated folks should master
this game in short order! The object of the game is to move the red block
around without getting hit by the blue blocks or touching the black walls.
If you can go longer than 18 seconds you are phenomenal It's been said that
the US Air Force uses this for fighter pilots. They are expected to go for
at least 2 minutes. Give it a try!!
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/56t9u
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of you hot
shot pilots might like a try at this.
>
>
I would like to try it, but I dont see a game or a link listed in your post :(
Can you repost it ???
Michael A. Bigelow
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8744#8744
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| Subject: | How tight the tail wires? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net>
Contains possible adult words! What did I say? What did I say? Lanny
Fetterman Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Mike,
Go to this site for the game http://tinyurl.com/56t9u
Chris Mallory do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:43 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY....
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>
>
> pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of you
>> hot shot pilots might like a try at this.
>>
>>
>
>
> I would like to try it, but I dont see a game or a link listed in your
> post :( Can you repost it ???
>
> Michael A. Bigelow
>
> --------
> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have
> !!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8744#8744
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Bryan Melborn's builder's fee |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com>
Steve thanks for covering Dominics question.
Dom, Thank you for asking your question, and commenting on what you have heard
about Bryan's work. I would not have been able to comment on his fee structure,
as he did not actually do the work for me personally. I bought this plane
from the widow of a man who had Bryan build it for him. Unfortunately the poor
gentleman became ill and passed away before he could enjoy this wonderfully built
aircraft. (Jesse Saxion, his splendid bride Mary Lib.)
Besides, I am sure that each kit or aircraft has so many unique issues about
it that construction fees could only be discussed on a plane-by-plane basis. But
certainly I can agree with those that compliment Bryan's work, as this Firestar
is constructed with great attention to detail, and I have yet to find a single
flaw.
I suggest taking Steve's advice and contacting Bryan via phone at the numbers
Steve mentioned. Having one built by Bryan in my garage, I for one feel you would
not be at all disappointed with his work, and frankly, at any price. Best
of luck to you!
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
do not archive
N27SB@aol.com wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 2/1/2006 1:39:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
perezmdomenic@plateautel.net writes:
So if I may be so bold, what does it cost to have Bryan Melborn build a
Firestar II?
Dom,
Bryan does not usually monitor the list so maybe I can help. Since the FSII
is not part 103, technically It has to be 51% built by the owner. However,
both Quickbuild and Builder Assist options are available. You can reach Bryan
at Custom Air 606 682 0645. You are correct about Bryan's work. It is always
Show Quality. He can also be reached through TNK 606 862 9692
Steve Boetto
FF #007/Floats
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
ok lets make this a contest, lets be on the honor system now, my personal
best is 21.703...come on lar...you and i have alot of time on our hands..
thanks,
Gary r. voigt
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY....
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>
>
> pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of
you hot shot pilots might like a try at this.
> >
> >
>
>
> I would like to try it, but I dont see a game or a link listed in your
post :( Can you repost it ???
>
> Michael A. Bigelow
>
> --------
> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have
!!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8744#8744
>
>
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| Subject: | Wing Attach Fittings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Guys,
Have any of you had problems with the Wing Attach Fitting (I think that's what
it's called) breaking rivets on the Boom Tube? If so, what's your fix?
I trailer my plane and fold it every time I fly. I'm sure I have over 3,000
miles trailering and a lot of that is over dirt roads with lots of washboards.
The Boom Tube is on a cradle and I have tried various things to get the weight
of the wings off of the Attach Fittings - the best is straps from the wings
to a brace across the ceiling of the trailer. But shortly after I got the
plane, I noticed the rivets were broken so I replaced them with steel rivets.
A while later, those broke so we drilled it out and put in 3/16 steel rivets.
Now I notice they are either broken or missing. One is gone so I assume it
broke, and the other is loose so I assume it is wearing a hole in the Boom Tube.
Any fixes for this short of disconnecting the wings after I get it in the trailer?
That would be a pain.
AzDave
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| Subject: | Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Youse guys are going 19 seconds ?? Fighter pilots are expected to go 2
minutes ?? Nawwwww. I ain't tellin' how long I went.
:-( Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY....
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> Mike,
> Go to this site for the game http://tinyurl.com/56t9u
>
> Chris Mallory do not archive
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:43 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY....
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>>
>>
>> pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of
>>> you
>>> hot shot pilots might like a try at this.
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Must be another Lar on the List. I KNow he's not talking about me.
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY....
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt"
> <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
>
> ok lets make this a contest, lets be on the honor system now, my
> personal
> best is 21.703...come on lar...you and i have alot of time on our hands..
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Attach Fittings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I'm amazed, Dave. Yours looks like a really good setup. Only thing I can
think of is nuts, bolts and washers, but can't figure how you'd do it
without cutting the fabric. Maybe a Tee on the tail boom support to support
the leading edges, too ?? Lar. Do
not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:56 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Wing Attach Fittings
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
> <pelletier@cableone.net>
>
> Guys,
>
> Have any of you had problems with the Wing Attach Fitting (I think
> that's what it's called) breaking rivets on the Boom Tube? If so, what's
> your fix?
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| Subject: | How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David.Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net>
I used an AN bulkhead fitting so that I can unscrew the pitot tube and install
a cap to keep the tube from getting bent and/or filled by bugs...
It probably doesn't make any difference, but before I cut the tubing, what is the
desired pitot tube length?...
Thanx...
DVD
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| Subject: | Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JW Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
Y'all;
Bro John is out of pocket for a few days, He should be back tomorrow or
Friday
Bro Jim
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| Subject: | Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Awesome game !! My first attempt was .426 seconds, but I was able to work up
to 20 seconds in a couple minutes :) Now im going to send this to all the guys
I fly with and see how they do [Wink]
Michael A. Bigelow
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| Subject: | Re: How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
I hear the average pitot tube is 6.3 inches, but that was a survey of all American
makes and models, probably not applicable to the Kolb [Laughing]
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Attach Fittings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Oh, Oh, maybe I didn't explain it right. The rivets that are breaking are
those that hold the Wing Attach Fitting (?) directly to the Boom Tube. I'm
not talking about the wing side, but the Boom Tube side. I even had the
Fitting tube break - we had to weld it. Now that was fun. Nuts and bolts
would be nice but how do you attach the nut three feet inside the Boom Tube?
AzDave
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> I'm amazed, Dave. Yours looks like a really good setup. Only thing I can
> think of is nuts, bolts and washers, but can't figure how you'd do it
> without cutting the fabric. Maybe a Tee on the tail boom support to
> support
> the leading edges, too ?? Lar.
> Do
> not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
3rd try got 55.8 secs.......
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FireFly#098
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Attach Fittings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Hire a local Orangutan ?? Seriously, if you put the bolt head in a socket
on a long breaker bar and put it with the head INside the tube, the nuts
would be easy to start on the outside. I doubt it would look too bad, if
the lengths were right. I've had good luck holding nuts and bolts in a
socket by putting a small piece of paper over the socket and pushing it in
with the nut or bolt. It acts as a shim, holding the part tightly in the
socket. I have done it the other way round, but it's difficult starting the
nuts with them on the inside. Can be done, but language tends to
deteriorate. :-) Lar.
P.S. Looking forward to seeing you and Eve at MV.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Wing Attach Fittings
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
> <pelletier@cableone.net>
>
> Oh, Oh, maybe I didn't explain it right. The rivets that are breaking are
> those that hold the Wing Attach Fitting (?) directly to the Boom Tube.
> I'm
> not talking about the wing side, but the Boom Tube side. I even had the
> Fitting tube break - we had to weld it. Now that was fun. Nuts and bolts
> would be nice but how do you attach the nut three feet inside the Boom
> Tube?
>
> AzDave
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
>> I'm amazed, Dave. Yours looks like a really good setup. Only thing I
>> can
>> think of is nuts, bolts and washers, but can't figure how you'd do it
>> without cutting the fabric. Maybe a Tee on the tail boom support to
>> support
>> the leading edges, too ?? Lar.
>> Do
>> not Archive.
>>
>> Larry Bourne
>> Palm Springs, CA
>> Building Kolb Mk III
>> N78LB Vamoose
>> www.gogittum.com
>>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Don't know if you are speaking of the length of the probe
or the tubing going to the cabin instrument. The probe
can be any length. The tubing also. -within reason, not talking miles
here.
Pressure drop of a fluid in a pipe (air being also a fluid)
is a function of cross section times distance traveled.
The diff in a pitot static system is that there is no flow,
hence no pressure drop.
-BB
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| Subject: | Re: How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
Mike,
I thought it was 6.5".... LOL
HA HA HA HA
Do not archive!!!
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JetPilot
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:26 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?...
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
I hear the average pitot tube is 6.3 inches, but that was a survey of all
American makes and models, probably not applicable to the Kolb [Laughing]
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| Subject: | Re: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Group,
The safety pin on the main spar clevis pin on my Firefly rotates to where
the point on the safety pin ends up pointing up, even though I install it
pointing down. Anyone else have this to occur? I fold and unfold to fly. I
would feel safer if the pin would stay pointing down . If it came open pointing
up it would have gravity pulling it down. ( and out) . Has there ever been a
case where the safety pins came out of that clevis? Is my concern legit?
Ed Diebel (447 Firefly )
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
Group,
Has anyone put a Rotax 277 on a Firefly, Or know of any one who has? I'm
curious as to what the performance and fuel economy was like.
Ed Diebel (447Firefly)
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