---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/01/06: 33 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:14 AM - Xtra (pat ladd) 2. 04:39 AM - Re: Xtra (Michael Sharp) 3. 05:10 AM - Re: Bryan Melborn's builder's fee (N27SB@aol.com) 4. 05:40 AM - Kolb on Lotus (Diego Ospina) 5. 05:49 AM - Re: Xtra (Larry Bourne) 6. 05:52 AM - Re: Kolb on Lotus (Blumax008@aol.com) 7. 06:28 AM - Re: How tight the tail wires... (Blumax008@aol.com) 8. 11:30 AM - Re: Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? (flht99reh) 9. 11:30 AM - Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (pat ladd) 10. 11:48 AM - Re: Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Michael Sharp) 11. 01:40 PM - How tight the tail wires? 1.80 SARE_ADLTSUB2 Contains possible adult words (Lanny Fetterman) 12. 01:40 PM - Re: Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Gary r. voigt) 13. 01:43 PM - Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (JetPilot) 14. 01:50 PM - How tight the tail wires? (Lanny Fetterman) 15. 02:16 PM - Re: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Chris Mallory) 16. 02:25 PM - Re: Bryan Melborn's builder's fee (Mike Schnabel) 17. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Gary r. voigt) 18. 04:57 PM - Wing Attach Fittings (Dave & Eve Pelletier) 19. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Larry Bourne) 20. 05:39 PM - Re: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Larry Bourne) 21. 05:48 PM - Re: Wing Attach Fittings (Larry Bourne) 22. 06:48 PM - How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?... (David.Lehman) 23. 07:20 PM - Re: Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? (JW Hauck) 24. 07:23 PM - Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (JetPilot) 25. 07:26 PM - Re: How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?... (JetPilot) 26. 07:58 PM - Re: Wing Attach Fittings (Dave & Eve Pelletier) 27. 08:09 PM - Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Don G) 28. 08:21 PM - Re: Wing Attach Fittings (Larry Bourne) 29. 08:32 PM - pitot tube (robert bean) 30. 09:15 PM - Re: Re: How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?... (Kolbdriver) 31. 10:22 PM - Re: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin (DAquaNut@aol.com) 32. 10:25 PM - Re: Rotax 277 (DAquaNut@aol.com) 33. 11:55 PM - Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines (dralle@matronics.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:50 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Kolb-List: Xtra --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" Hi all, some movement at last. Permission to test fly my Xtra, registered G-PLAD, came through this morning. There is some confusion over the MAUW but Kiwimick, who will complete the test flying is sorting this out. The permission to test which Mick will do as designated pilot, is good until End of Feb. A restricted flying area for a specified time then follows and I hope to be able to complete that myself at my home field. Getting it home from Micks field, about 150 miles away, will entail a one off positioning flight for which permision should be forthcoming easily. Micks field is completely fogged in today. Vis at my field is under VFR limits. Hey Ho ! Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:31 AM PST US From: Michael Sharp Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Xtra --> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp Way cool Pat... Keep us posted. pat ladd wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" Hi all, some movement at last. Permission to test fly my Xtra, registered G-PLAD, came through this morning. There is some confusion over the MAUW but Kiwimick, who will complete the test flying is sorting this out. The permission to test which Mick will do as designated pilot, is good until End of Feb. A restricted flying area for a specified time then follows and I hope to be able to complete that myself at my home field. Getting it home from Micks field, about 150 miles away, will entail a one off positioning flight for which permision should be forthcoming easily. Micks field is completely fogged in today. Vis at my field is under VFR limits. Hey Ho ! Pat ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:43 AM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bryan Melborn's builder's fee --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com In a message dated 2/1/2006 1:39:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, perezmdomenic@plateautel.net writes: So if I may be so bold, what does it cost to have Bryan Melborn build a Firestar II? Dom, Bryan does not usually monitor the list so maybe I can help. Since the FSII is not part 103, technically It has to be 51% built by the owner. However, both Quickbuild and Builder Assist options are available. You can reach Bryan at Custom Air 606 682 0645. You are correct about Bryan's work. It is always Show Quality. He can also be reached through TNK 606 862 9692 Steve Boetto FF #007/Floats ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:19 AM PST US From: Diego Ospina Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb on Lotus --> Kolb-List message posted by: Diego Ospina Hello All; Is anyone in this list flying or has flown a Mark III with the Full Lotus monohull 2000 float? Diego Ospina Flying Mark III in Colombia dospi@epm.net.co ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:44 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Xtra --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Man, I'll bet you're chomping at the bit, eh ?? Good Luck, Pat, I hope that notorious British weather co-operates for you. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat ladd" Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:11 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Xtra > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" > > Hi all, > some movement at last. > > Permission to test fly my Xtra, registered G-PLAD, came through this > morning. There is some confusion over the MAUW but Kiwimick, who will > complete the test flying is sorting this out. > > The permission to test which Mick will do as designated pilot, is good > until End of Feb. A restricted flying area for a specified time then > follows and I hope to be able to complete that myself at my home field. > Getting it home from Micks field, about 150 miles away, will entail a one > off positioning flight for which permision should be forthcoming easily. > > Micks field is completely fogged in today. Vis at my field is under VFR > limits. Hey Ho ! > > Pat > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:23 AM PST US From: Blumax008@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb on Lotus --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com In a message dated 2/1/2006 8:41:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, dospi@epm.net.co writes: Is anyone in this list flying or has flown a Mark III with the Full Lotus monohull 2000 float? Diego...Que Paso Hombre? I can get you the email address for the owner of Full Lotus if you like. Also, can get you the email of a person that has experience installing the Full Lotus on Kolbs but do not know if he has installed them on a Mark III. Probably doesn't make much difference. He can give you a lot of advice & would probably even fly to Colombia to install them for you...for a price of course. Hasta Luego! Bill Catalina ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:57 AM PST US From: Blumax008@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: How tight the tail wires... --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com Hey Guys, I do aerial photography here in Florida using a Firestar. Bought it recently. Love that windshield! Had it at 12,000 feet yesterday but MAN was it ever freezing my --- off. When you're up that high looking at the world, sometimes you get to thinking bad thoughts. Not nasty thoughts, though sometimes I think that too...but thoughts like that itty bitty AN3 bolt & nut holding my horizontal feathers on. Does anyone know how tight those wires should be? When I tip the wires with my fingers I get a fine hmmmm to it & it seems awful drum tight. Has anyone ever replaced the bolt with an AN4? I do some crazy crap but you can tell I'm a chicken sh-t at heart! It's just that I fly Trikes too and the cables on Trikes are like the ones on the suspension bridge across Tampa Bay. Not used to this itty bitty stuff. Bill Catalina Ochlockonee Bay, FL ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:08 AM PST US From: "flht99reh" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flht99reh" Robert, I would have to say that it depends on which eye one winks with and which eye has the patch. I'm not paid to think as a male topless dancer, just shake my tail feather and run like $# % ! And speaking about shaking....Would someone wake and shake John H. He hasn't said anything lately. John if you're reading, move something. My ex-employer used to say that it was the only way he knew if someone was still alive! HA, HA. That and watch who comes in on pay day! Ralph, the good one from Ohio (like there are any bad ones anywhere in the USA). --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird If you wink, and you have an eye-patch, isn't that technically a blink? > > without the neck and back brace :( , and sometimes without the > > eye-patch [Wink] . I hoping that if I continue doing what I doing and add do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:08 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" Hi All, I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of you hot shot pilots might like a try at this. My best so far is 11.025 secs Good luck Pat ----- Original Message ----- From:, February 01, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: FW: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... You are the pilot, how long can you go with this? I'm good for about 8 secs. Jerry Very difficult at first. However, all you coordinated folks should master this game in short order! The object of the game is to move the red block around without getting hit by the blue blocks or touching the black walls. If you can go longer than 18 seconds you are phenomenal It's been said that the US Air Force uses this for fighter pilots. They are expected to go for at least 2 minutes. Give it a try!! http://tinyurl.com/56t9u ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:48:21 AM PST US From: Michael Sharp Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... --> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp Kewl, 19.304sec... I'll try harder when i'm not at work... Do Not Archive pat ladd wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" Hi All, I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of you hot shot pilots might like a try at this. My best so far is 11.025 secs Good luck Pat ----- Original Message ----- From:, February 01, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: FW: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... You are the pilot, how long can you go with this? I'm good for about 8 secs. Jerry Very difficult at first. However, all you coordinated folks should master this game in short order! The object of the game is to move the red block around without getting hit by the blue blocks or touching the black walls. If you can go longer than 18 seconds you are phenomenal It's been said that the US Air Force uses this for fighter pilots. They are expected to go for at least 2 minutes. Give it a try!! http://tinyurl.com/56t9u ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:40:51 PM PST US From: Lanny Fetterman Subject: Kolb-List: How tight the tail wires? 1.80 SARE_ADLTSUB2 Contains possible adult words --> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman Bill and all, I asked Dennis this question once and his answer was, as tight as I could get them using only my fingers on the wing nut. Lanny Fetterman N598LF Firestar II ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:40:51 PM PST US From: "Gary r. voigt" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" ok...this gets addicting...19.281, my mother always said i had good hand/eye cordnation. btw i'am good with handguns too...picking grouse out at 55 yards no scope. it's all about knowing your gun. sorry this off the topic a little but ultralight comments get boring after a while, specially when ya sold yers. thanks, Gary r. voigt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Sharp" Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:47 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp > > Kewl, > > 19.304sec... I'll try harder when i'm not at work... > > Do Not Archive > > > pat ladd wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" > > > Hi All, > > I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of you hot shot pilots might like a try at this. > > My best so far is 11.025 secs > > Good luck > > Pat > ----- Original Message ----- > From:, February 01, 2006 2:09 PM > Subject: FW: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... > > > You are the pilot, how long can you go with this? I'm good for about 8 secs. Jerry > > > Very difficult at first. However, all you coordinated folks should master this game in short order! The object of the game is to move the red block around without getting hit by the blue blocks or touching the black walls. If you can go longer than 18 seconds you are phenomenal It's been said that the US Air Force uses this for fighter pilots. They are expected to go for at least 2 minutes. Give it a try!! > > > http://tinyurl.com/56t9u > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:43:59 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... From: "JetPilot" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote: > Hi All, > > I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of you hot shot pilots might like a try at this. > > I would like to try it, but I dont see a game or a link listed in your post :( Can you repost it ??? Michael A. Bigelow -------- NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8744#8744 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:50:14 PM PST US From: Lanny Fetterman Subject: Kolb-List: How tight the tail wires? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman Contains possible adult words! What did I say? What did I say? Lanny Fetterman Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:16:04 PM PST US From: "Chris Mallory" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" Mike, Go to this site for the game http://tinyurl.com/56t9u Chris Mallory do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "JetPilot" Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:43 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" > > > pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of you >> hot shot pilots might like a try at this. >> >> > > > I would like to try it, but I dont see a game or a link listed in your > post :( Can you repost it ??? > > Michael A. Bigelow > > -------- > NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have > !!! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8744#8744 > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:25:31 PM PST US From: Mike Schnabel Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bryan Melborn's builder's fee --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel Steve thanks for covering Dominics question. Dom, Thank you for asking your question, and commenting on what you have heard about Bryan's work. I would not have been able to comment on his fee structure, as he did not actually do the work for me personally. I bought this plane from the widow of a man who had Bryan build it for him. Unfortunately the poor gentleman became ill and passed away before he could enjoy this wonderfully built aircraft. (Jesse Saxion, his splendid bride Mary Lib.) Besides, I am sure that each kit or aircraft has so many unique issues about it that construction fees could only be discussed on a plane-by-plane basis. But certainly I can agree with those that compliment Bryan's work, as this Firestar is constructed with great attention to detail, and I have yet to find a single flaw. I suggest taking Steve's advice and contacting Bryan via phone at the numbers Steve mentioned. Having one built by Bryan in my garage, I for one feel you would not be at all disappointed with his work, and frankly, at any price. Best of luck to you! Mike S Manchester TN Firestar 2 503 do not archive N27SB@aol.com wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com In a message dated 2/1/2006 1:39:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, perezmdomenic@plateautel.net writes: So if I may be so bold, what does it cost to have Bryan Melborn build a Firestar II? Dom, Bryan does not usually monitor the list so maybe I can help. Since the FSII is not part 103, technically It has to be 51% built by the owner. However, both Quickbuild and Builder Assist options are available. You can reach Bryan at Custom Air 606 682 0645. You are correct about Bryan's work. It is always Show Quality. He can also be reached through TNK 606 862 9692 Steve Boetto FF #007/Floats --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:25:07 PM PST US From: "Gary r. voigt" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" ok lets make this a contest, lets be on the honor system now, my personal best is 21.703...come on lar...you and i have alot of time on our hands.. thanks, Gary r. voigt ----- Original Message ----- From: "JetPilot" Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" > > > pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of you hot shot pilots might like a try at this. > > > > > > > I would like to try it, but I dont see a game or a link listed in your post :( Can you repost it ??? > > Michael A. Bigelow > > -------- > NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8744#8744 > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:57:54 PM PST US From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" Subject: Kolb-List: Wing Attach Fittings --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" Guys, Have any of you had problems with the Wing Attach Fitting (I think that's what it's called) breaking rivets on the Boom Tube? If so, what's your fix? I trailer my plane and fold it every time I fly. I'm sure I have over 3,000 miles trailering and a lot of that is over dirt roads with lots of washboards. The Boom Tube is on a cradle and I have tried various things to get the weight of the wings off of the Attach Fittings - the best is straps from the wings to a brace across the ceiling of the trailer. But shortly after I got the plane, I noticed the rivets were broken so I replaced them with steel rivets. A while later, those broke so we drilled it out and put in 3/16 steel rivets. Now I notice they are either broken or missing. One is gone so I assume it broke, and the other is loose so I assume it is wearing a hole in the Boom Tube. Any fixes for this short of disconnecting the wings after I get it in the trailer? That would be a pain. AzDave ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:34:36 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Youse guys are going 19 seconds ?? Fighter pilots are expected to go 2 minutes ?? Nawwwww. I ain't tellin' how long I went. :-( Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Mallory" Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" > > Mike, > Go to this site for the game http://tinyurl.com/56t9u > > Chris Mallory do not archive > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JetPilot" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:43 PM > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... > > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" >> >> >> pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of >>> you >>> hot shot pilots might like a try at this. >>> >>> ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:39:24 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Must be another Lar on the List. I KNow he's not talking about me. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary r. voigt" Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" > > > ok lets make this a contest, lets be on the honor system now, my > personal > best is 21.703...come on lar...you and i have alot of time on our hands.. > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:01 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Wing Attach Fittings --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" I'm amazed, Dave. Yours looks like a really good setup. Only thing I can think of is nuts, bolts and washers, but can't figure how you'd do it without cutting the fabric. Maybe a Tee on the tail boom support to support the leading edges, too ?? Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:56 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Wing Attach Fittings > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" > > > Guys, > > Have any of you had problems with the Wing Attach Fitting (I think > that's what it's called) breaking rivets on the Boom Tube? If so, what's > your fix? ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:48:31 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?... From: "David.Lehman" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David.Lehman" I used an AN bulkhead fitting so that I can unscrew the pitot tube and install a cap to keep the tube from getting bent and/or filled by bugs... It probably doesn't make any difference, but before I cut the tubing, what is the desired pitot tube length?... Thanx... DVD do not archive -------- http://photobucket.com/albums/e327/N446/ Do not spin this aircraft. If the aircraft does enter a spin it will return to earth without further attention on the part of the aeronaut. first handbook issued with the Curtis-Wright flyer. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8817#8817 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cimg0679_474.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/cimg0676_862.jpg ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:20:13 PM PST US From: "JW Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JW Hauck" Y'all; Bro John is out of pocket for a few days, He should be back tomorrow or Friday Bro Jim ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:23:24 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... From: "JetPilot" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" Awesome game !! My first attempt was .426 seconds, but I was able to work up to 20 seconds in a couple minutes :) Now im going to send this to all the guys I fly with and see how they do [Wink] Michael A. Bigelow -------- NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8825#8825 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:43 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?... From: "JetPilot" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" I hear the average pitot tube is 6.3 inches, but that was a survey of all American makes and models, probably not applicable to the Kolb [Laughing] -------- NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8828#8828 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 07:58:18 PM PST US From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Wing Attach Fittings --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" Oh, Oh, maybe I didn't explain it right. The rivets that are breaking are those that hold the Wing Attach Fitting (?) directly to the Boom Tube. I'm not talking about the wing side, but the Boom Tube side. I even had the Fitting tube break - we had to weld it. Now that was fun. Nuts and bolts would be nice but how do you attach the nut three feet inside the Boom Tube? AzDave Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bourne" > I'm amazed, Dave. Yours looks like a really good setup. Only thing I can > think of is nuts, bolts and washers, but can't figure how you'd do it > without cutting the fabric. Maybe a Tee on the tail boom support to > support > the leading edges, too ?? Lar. > Do > not Archive. > > Larry Bourne > Palm Springs, CA > Building Kolb Mk III > N78LB Vamoose > www.gogittum.com > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 08:09:13 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... From: "Don G" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don G" 3rd try got 55.8 secs....... -------- Don G FireFly#098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8836#8836 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:50 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Wing Attach Fittings --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Hire a local Orangutan ?? Seriously, if you put the bolt head in a socket on a long breaker bar and put it with the head INside the tube, the nuts would be easy to start on the outside. I doubt it would look too bad, if the lengths were right. I've had good luck holding nuts and bolts in a socket by putting a small piece of paper over the socket and pushing it in with the nut or bolt. It acts as a shim, holding the part tightly in the socket. I have done it the other way round, but it's difficult starting the nuts with them on the inside. Can be done, but language tends to deteriorate. :-) Lar. P.S. Looking forward to seeing you and Eve at MV. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:55 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Wing Attach Fittings > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" > > > Oh, Oh, maybe I didn't explain it right. The rivets that are breaking are > those that hold the Wing Attach Fitting (?) directly to the Boom Tube. > I'm > not talking about the wing side, but the Boom Tube side. I even had the > Fitting tube break - we had to weld it. Now that was fun. Nuts and bolts > would be nice but how do you attach the nut three feet inside the Boom > Tube? > > AzDave > > Do Not Archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Bourne" > >> I'm amazed, Dave. Yours looks like a really good setup. Only thing I >> can >> think of is nuts, bolts and washers, but can't figure how you'd do it >> without cutting the fabric. Maybe a Tee on the tail boom support to >> support >> the leading edges, too ?? Lar. >> Do >> not Archive. >> >> Larry Bourne >> Palm Springs, CA >> Building Kolb Mk III >> N78LB Vamoose >> www.gogittum.com >> > > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 08:32:00 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: pitot tube --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Don't know if you are speaking of the length of the probe or the tubing going to the cabin instrument. The probe can be any length. The tubing also. -within reason, not talking miles here. Pressure drop of a fluid in a pipe (air being also a fluid) is a function of cross section times distance traveled. The diff in a pitot static system is that there is no flow, hence no pressure drop. -BB ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 09:15:38 PM PST US From: "Kolbdriver" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" Mike, I thought it was 6.5".... LOL HA HA HA HA Do not archive!!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JetPilot Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: How Long Is Your (Pitot) Tube?... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" I hear the average pitot tube is 6.3 inches, but that was a survey of all American makes and models, probably not applicable to the Kolb [Laughing] -------- NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=8828#8828 ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 10:22:20 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com Group, The safety pin on the main spar clevis pin on my Firefly rotates to where the point on the safety pin ends up pointing up, even though I install it pointing down. Anyone else have this to occur? I fold and unfold to fly. I would feel safer if the pin would stay pointing down . If it came open pointing up it would have gravity pulling it down. ( and out) . Has there ever been a case where the safety pins came out of that clevis? Is my concern legit? Ed Diebel (447 Firefly ) ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 10:25:33 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotax 277 --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com Group, Has anyone put a Rotax 277 on a Firefly, Or know of any one who has? I'm curious as to what the performance and fuel economy was like. Ed Diebel (447Firefly) ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 11:55:53 PM PST US From: dralle@matronics.com Subject: Kolb-List: Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines --> Kolb-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com Dear Listers, Please read over the Kolb-List Usage Guidelines below. 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