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1. 03:40 AM - Re: Pitot Geometry (pat ladd)
2. 04:41 AM - Re: Where're You At??/ Spy ware problems (pat ladd)
3. 04:41 AM - Re: Re: Entusiastic group (djo)
4. 06:20 AM - Re: Where're You At??/ Spy ware problems (robert bean)
5. 06:23 AM - Re: Frapper problems (Eugene Zimmerman)
6. 12:49 PM - spy ware? (Larry Cottrell)
7. 12:49 PM - Re: Re: Pitot Geometry (flht99reh)
8. 01:46 PM - Re: spy ware? (planecrazzzy)
9. 02:09 PM - Re: Re: Entusiastic group (pat ladd)
10. 02:13 PM - Re: spy ware? (Mike Schnabel)
11. 03:49 PM - Kolb Wanted Left Coast... (David Lehman)
12. 03:49 PM - Re: Bearing Wash-out (Ed Chmielewski)
13. 04:15 PM - Re: Re: spy ware? (Mike Schnabel)
14. 04:30 PM - Re: Bearing Wash-out (biglar)
15. 04:40 PM - Re: Bearing Wash-out (Larry Bourne)
16. 05:22 PM - Any excuse to buzz (Ralph Hoover)
17. 05:31 PM - winter flying in Minnesota (Ralph)
18. 06:04 PM - Re: winter flying in Minnesota (Bob Dalton)
19. 06:23 PM - Re: winter flying in Minnesota (JetPilot)
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| Subject: | Re: Pitot Geometry |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Move it about 15" forward and a bit down. If your pitot tube and static
> air openings are about even with the front of the nose bowl, and at
> least 6" below it, it will work perfectly.>>
Gosh!, and all this time I thought it was just a matter of putting the pitot
where the cows didn`t knock it off.
Cheers
Pat :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Where're You At??/ Spy ware problems |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
(Frapper) caused a slowdown of my computer.. >>
Hi,
I am not sure about spyware but the frapper site certainly takes its time to
do anything. I have just given up trying to add it to my `favorites`
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Entusiastic group |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "djo" <djo@unet.com.mk>
Thank you all for replying on the e-mail and especially to the ones that
donated some materials.
Just short explanation to all of you that got so egger to argue and protect
your rights.
We are academic and student group from the Mechanical University in
Macedonia.
(Republic of Macedonia)
This project is done in close with aero club "SKOPJE".
The basic of the project is to expand the knowledge of construction and
building to the students and everybody interested in. We are under funded
and not able to bye all the necessary materials.
That is the reason we are not looking for a specific plan or material but
anything will work out fine. So basically the point is not to reproduce the
project but just in practical way to explain the possibilities that one
thing can be done in different way.
All of you that are interested I can provide you with the contacts of the
University and the leaders of the project.
Hope this mail will clear my name in this chat group.
All best
Georgi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Clayton" <jspc78@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:01 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Entusiastic group
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jim Clayton <jspc78@yahoo.com>
>
> Greetings all,
>
> This was posted to the homebuilt list this morning,
> and I think Sid got it right, so I am cross posting it
> here.
>
> This smells like a scam to me.
>
> -Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-homebuilt-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-homebuilt-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Sid Hausding
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:20 AM
> To: homebuilt-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Homebuilt-List: group
>
> --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: Sid Hausding
> <avidsid@yahoo.com>
>
> I'm not saying this gentleman is one, but we have seen
> this request on other aviation forums as a
> scam............someone is getting free aircraft plans
> and manuals, copying them and then turning around and
> selling unauthorized copies without the owner's or
> designers persmission.
> I would wonder why a class would want several
> designs and not just one that they could work
> from............sounds too much like the "getting
> something for nothing" idea and the ebay scam all over
> again.
> I belong to four aviation forums and have seen this
> request twice already and heard the same story from
> several other friends on other type specific
> lists......
>
> Hausding, Sid
> Alpena, Michigan
> ------------------------
>
> djo <djo@unet.com.mk> wrote:
> --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "djo"
>
> Hello All;
> We are group of students working on a student project
> of design and building of light airplane.
> All your donation of plans and user manuals for
> airplanes and motorized sailplanes will be welcomed
> and mentioned.
> Please send them in PDF or DWG format.
> All best;
> Georgi Petkovski
> ak group
> please use this e-mail
> brkonja@gmail.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Where're You At??/ Spy ware problems |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
I thought that name was suspicious. It sounds like what I generate
after
recently eating a big bowl of my cabbage, bean and venison soup.
F RRRRAPPPRRRR!
-BB do not archive
On 4, Feb 2006, at 12:57 AM, Carlos wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Carlos" <grageda@innw.net>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just a word of caution regarding "Frapper". There appears to be spyware
> associated with this web site which caused a slowdown of my computer..
> I
> double checked to be sure and there seems to be a problem at this
> "Frapper"
> site.
>
> I dont know the circumstances of this site as it is new to me. They
> may have
> been infected without their knowledge.
>
> Please advise when this site is safe to visit.
>
> Thanks
> Carlos Grageda
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Earl & Mim Zimmerman" <emzi@supernet.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:51 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Where're You At??
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman
>> <emzi@supernet.com>
>>
>> For anybody that may have been gone for a few days, we started a Kolb
>> family map. Please consider joining us. Thanks! ~ Earl
>> http://www.frappr.com/kolbaircraft
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| Subject: | Re: Frapper problems |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
Hey guys,
The problem you are seeing is caused by the phenomenal growth of the
site
overwhelming the potential of the server to handle the traffic at
peak use times .
Try it at another time, it still works fine for me.
Just be patient because I'm sure they will add server to capacity
to deal with the new traffic.
On Feb 4, 2006, at 7:12 AM, pat ladd wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> (Frapper) caused a slowdown of my computer.. >>
>
> Hi,
> I am not sure about spyware but the frapper site certainly takes
> its time to
> do anything. I have just given up trying to add it to my `favorites`
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
> --
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
I checked my computer with a spy ware program and found nothing at all. One of
the few times that has happened. Perhaps you got it somewhere else. I agree Frapper
is like watching grass grow, but it doesn't seem to have infected me with
spy ware.
Larry,Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Pitot Geometry |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net>
Davey, I would be most honored, and as such would delegate you as V.
President. As such, your first duty would to be to inform me as to what I am
to preside over!
Please, Please do not archive, as I probably would forget where to find it.
And yes, I know this demeans the value of the web site by carrying on site
such drabble. But then 'I am the President!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Lehman
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Pitot Geometry
--> Kolb-List message posted by: David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net>
OK Ralphie...
I nominate you for President of our ol' man's club... I think most of us
are a lot like you...
DVD
On 2/3/06, flht99reh <flht99reh@netzero.net> wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net>
>
>
> John, the question you asked below reminded me of an instructor in a
> Salesman course on successful salesmanship (I believe for those that care
> that it was the Larry Wilson Salesmanship Course). He said there are four
> categories of salesmen (or for that matter, any area of interest): The
> highest is the conscious competent. This one is aware that there
> successful
> and why. Then there is the unconscious competent. This one, he says, has
> no
> idea why they are successful. Then the third: the conscious incompetent.
> This individual is aware of why they are not successful. Then the last:
> the
> unconscious incompetent. He or she, has no idea why or the fact that they
> are unsuccessful.
>
> I was, for a great deal of my career, an unconscious competent. I had the
> way to sell refrigerators to Eskimo's; I just never understood why they
> bought from me. Now over my life I have graduated to being the conscious
> incompetent. I know that I know that I am a complete, in every way
> failure.
> But soon, I hope to acquire that happy medium most elderly men achieve:
> the
> full blown unconscious incompetent. Imagine, being able to fail with
> dignity
> in your own eyes! Now I don't want to be in that category while flying,
> just
> in all other matters. I mean that would complete for me the whole circle
> of
> life: I wear glasses, my speech gets slurred on just six or eight beers,
> my
> hearing is attuned to hear only Harley Davidson motorcycles with drag
> pipes,
> I walk with a limp, have high blood pressure, have record setting high
> cholesterol, thyroids are out of whack and I could afford to loose thirty
> of
> forty pounds.
>
> The real Ralph from Ohio!
> Kolb 1990 Firestar KXP
>
>
> Hi Bob: You did not clarify if that excursion to the brush was
> controlled,
> intentional, or uncontrolled and unintentional.
>
> john h
>
> --------
> John Hauck
> MKIII/912ULS
> hauck's holler, alabama
>
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE!!!
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
I see that Spyware is being BLOCKED when I go to the Frapper page...
I have Notron antivirus/spyware/adware security...
Gotta fly...
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The more people I know....
The more I like MY DOG
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| Subject: | Re: Entusiastic group |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Nothing to do with Kolbs so if you feel strongly about such things DELETE
NOW.
aero club "SKOPJE".>>
The word Skopje made me sit up. About 30 years ago there was a very bad
earthquake in the Skopje area. I was a member of Round Table (a sort of
junior Rotary) at that time.
One Table member was a cameraman for the BBC and when he returned from
covering the earthquake he gave a talk to the Club and said that refugees
were living in tents and winter was coming on. Some bright spark suggested
that the Club buy a caravan and that members should tow it to Skopje and
hand it over to the Red Cross.
In a bout 2 weeks dozens of Round Table Clubs throughout England had bought
caravans, arranged to take holidays from work, said goodbye to their wives
and families and headed off for Europe.
The Government agreed to pay the fares on the cross Channel ferry. They
thought there would only be half a dozen. In the event there were more than
a hundred and governments being the same the world over they tried to get
out of paying.
This great convoy of caravans was met by local Round Table members as they
progressed across the Continent. Providing food, repairs for some caravans
that were disintegrating, showing short cuts around cities etc., untill they
arrived en masse in Skopje. There the `vans were unhitched and handed over
to the Red Cross and the Tablers just turned around and drove home.
It was one of the things of which I was most proud to be associated during
my 15 years or so as a member of Round Table.
Under the rules everyone is kicked out of Table at the age of 40 so it was
all a very long time ago.
Cheers
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com>
I have to agree with Larry. After the message sent about possible "Spy Ware" from
the Frappr.com site, I also took to my Spy ware software and found nothing.
Then just to be sure, I visited the Internet to seek out other possible intrusions
from this site, but again came up empty. The Frappr site does use GoogleMaps
as a primary feature, and I believe the slow response from the site is due
to the complexity of this mapping feature, as well as the multitude of traffic
their servers are dealing with. If you visit the Frappr main page, you will
see there are hundreds, if not thousands of other groups gathering via their
web pages just as quickly as the Kolb aircraft group has come together. As of
now, I feel safe with this site, and find it a great way to "see" the other Kolb
list members, get to know visually where they live, and see their planes!
But then again... I could be wrong!
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
do not archive (last i heard, this still is needed even with the new forum)
Larry Cottrell <lcottrel@kfalls.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell"
I checked my computer with a spy ware program and found nothing at all. One of
the few times that has happened. Perhaps you got it somewhere else. I agree Frapper
is like watching grass grow, but it doesn't seem to have infected me with
spy ware.
Larry,Oregon
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| Subject: | Kolb Wanted Left Coast... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net>
I received this request...
Reply to Chuck...
DVD
David,
Can you post the following for me to Kolb list?
Anyone selling a 2 place Kolb in or near California? I have a customer
> that wants one.
I'm not a member of the list, because I cant figure out how to use
Matronics (sp)
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Chuck Riley
> 559-224-8841
> 559-696-5053 cell
> rudolphriley@comcast.net
> www.airtitan.com
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| Subject: | Re: Bearing Wash-out |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Hi Lar,
I never heard the term before, but in the case of oil pressure "too
much of a good thing" can indeed be bad. A fluid under great pressure will
find the path of least resistance, and indeed with high oil pressure the
bearings may be exposed to less-optimum lubrication due to the oil going to
places it's not meant to, or in the wrong proportion. Your oil cooler and
thermostat will both be operating at the edge (or beyond) of their design
limits also. I saw more than a couple VW oil coolers rupture after a HP
aftermarket oil pump was fitted, and had a filter rupture on a bus I owned
after I dialed the pressure up a bit too high. 60 psi (IIRC) seemed like a
good upper limit. We used to grind the pressure springs down, before they
came up with the adjustable pressure limiters.
With GA aircraft after an engine change or other major work, it's
important to have the A&P adjust the pressure (usually down) on the high
limit to keep it in the green arc.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:40 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Bearing Wash-out
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> A while back I posted that Vamoose' oil pressure was over 80 psi, and
> someone made a remark about "bearing wash out," I think. Never heard that
> expression before, and haven't been able to find anyone around here who
> has. Could you explain what you mean by that ?? What causes it, what are
> the effects, etc. I, and people I've talked to, seem to feel that the
> more oil flow the better. Educate me, please. Lar.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com>
So, do you suspect, that there is Spyware on the Frappr site then?
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar2 503
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planecrazzzy <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
I see that Spyware is being BLOCKED when I go to the Frapper page...
I have Notron antivirus/spyware/adware security...
Gotta fly...
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The more I like MY DOG
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.Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Bearing Wash-out |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "biglar" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Thanks to you, too, Don. Right now I'm grabbing at straws, trying to avoid pulling
the thing apart again. If this doesn't work.........OK, tear'm to pieces.
We'll see. It's getting to be daylight late enuf now to where I'll soon be
able to do a little on it after work. Lar. Do not
Archive.
--------
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk IIIC
Vamoose
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| Subject: | Re: Bearing Wash-out |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Thanks, Ed. With the stock spring, the pressure should be down around 40
psi when warmed up. Running out of time today, but may get to it tomorrow.
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bearing Wash-out
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski"
> <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
>
> Hi Lar,
>
> I never heard the term before, but in the case of oil pressure "too
> much of a good thing" can indeed be bad. A fluid under great pressure
> will
> find the path of least resistance, and indeed with high oil pressure the
> bearings may be exposed to less-optimum lubrication due to the oil going
> to
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| Subject: | Any excuse to buzz |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com>
> A story from a U.S. Soldier somewhere in Afghanistan:
> "So we are up in the mountains at about 0100 hrs looking for a bad guy
>that we thought was in the area. Here are ten of us, pitch black, crystal
>clear night, about 25 degrees. We know there are bad guys in the area; a
>few shots have been fired but no big deal. We decide that we need air cover
>and the only thing in the area is a solo B-1 bomber. He flies around at
>about 20,000 feet and tells us there is nothing in the area. He then asks
>if we would like a low level show of force.
> Stupid question. Of course we tell him yes. The controller who is
>attached to the team then is heard talking to the pilot. Pilot asks if we
>want it subsonic or supersonic. Very stupid question. Pilot advises he is
>twenty miles out and stand by.
> The controller gets us all sitting down in a line and points out the
>proper location. You have to picture this. Pitch black, ten killers sitting
>down, dead quiet and overlooking this about 30 mile long valley. All of a
>sudden, way out (below our level) you see a set of four 200' white flames
>coming at us. The controller says, "Ah-- guys-- you might want to plug your
>ears".
> Faster than you can think a B-1, supersonic, 1000' over our heads,
>blasts the sound barrier and it feels like God just hit you in the head
>with a hammer". He then stands it straight up with 4 white trails of flame
>coming out and disappears."
> Cost of gas for that: Probably $50,000
> Hearing damage: For certain
> Bunch of Taliban thinking twice about shooting at us: Priceless
> Have a nice day!
Most adiquate Ralph from Ohio
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| Subject: | winter flying in Minnesota |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
Guys,
Here are some pics of winter flying in Minnesota today (2/4/2006).
http://frogflyers.com/phpbb/album_cat.php?cat_id=9
Ralph
Original Firestar
19 years flying it
Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month!
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| Subject: | winter flying in Minnesota |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
Ralph,
Great shots wow it looked cold! Thanks for sharing. Your ski set-up look's
awesome.
Bob Dalton
Manteca, CA
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 5:30 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: winter flying in Minnesota
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
Guys,
Here are some pics of winter flying in Minnesota today (2/4/2006).
http://frogflyers.com/phpbb/album_cat.php?cat_id=9
Ralph
Original Firestar
19 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: winter flying in Minnesota |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Oh my gawd that looks cold [Shocked] I can immagine it in maybe a fully enclosed
MK-III, but in the open... That had to be cold ! The skis look really
neat on a firestar. The pictures were great, wish I was flying this weekend
[Crying or Very sad]
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NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
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