Kolb-List Digest Archive

Mon 02/06/06


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 05:09 AM - Pitot Tube (Jimmy)
     2. 06:12 AM - Re: Flying to Mexico (Larry Bourne)
     3. 06:59 AM - Re: Ohio Kolbers (Todd Fredricks)
     4. 07:19 AM - Re: Ohio Kolbers (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
     5. 07:41 AM - Re: Pitot Tube (Richard Pike)
     6. 08:00 AM - Re: Re: Entusiastic group (pat ladd)
     7. 08:04 AM - Re: Re: Entusiastic group (pat ladd)
     8. 10:40 AM - Wing Fold Tube (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
     9. 10:50 AM - Re: Ohio Kolbers (flht99reh)
    10. 10:53 AM - Re: Ohio Kolbers (flht99reh)
    11. 02:28 PM - Re: Macrem'e 101 , 5 easy steps (planecrazzzy)
    12. 04:49 PM - Re: Wing Fold Tube (Ralph)
    13. 05:17 PM - Re: Wing Fold Tube (ray anderson)
    14. 05:37 PM - Re: Ohio Kolbers (Todd Fredricks)
    15. 06:09 PM - Re: Ohio Kolbers (flht99reh)
    16. 06:45 PM - Re: Ohio Kolbers (Denny Rowe)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:09:17 AM PST US
    From: "Jimmy" <jhankin@planters.net>
    Subject: Pitot Tube
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jimmy" <jhankin@planters.net> With my Firefly on the ground the pitot tube is almost level, with it in flying attitude the tube is a good bit down. Will this affect the performance of the air speed indicator. It is now in the middle of the nose cone. Jimmy Hankinson 912-863-7384 Firefly 035 JYL (Sylvania) Pegasus Field (Home) 2000 Feet X 100 Feet- Grass Rocky Ford, Georgia Do Not Archive


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    Time: 06:12:05 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Flying to Mexico
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Thanks for the thought, Will, but I get "page cannot be displayed." Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <WillUribe@aol.com> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 10:33 AM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Flying to Mexico > --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com > > Hi Larry, > I have flow into Mexico and it's not bad at all. It may get a little > expensive. > Here is a link for a pilot flying into Mexico in a home built, > interesting > reading. > > _http://www.rvproject.com/2004_mexico_trip_log.html_ > (http://www.rvproject.com/2004_mexico_trip_log.html) > >


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    Time: 06:59:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ohio Kolbers
    From: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net> Athens Ohio but my Kolb is in the process of becoming in London right now. Todd On 2/5/06 4:02 PM, "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com> wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com> > > All right Ohio'n, speak-up now or for ever hold your piece! If you live in > Ohio or near the edge of Ohio in KY, IN, PA, W Va or Mich, please respond. > > > It appears that a bunch (verses a flock or gander) of the Kolbers meet every > year somewhere (besides the Kolb factory) and talk, drink beer, camp out and > enjoy each others company. I'd like to do likewise on a smaller scale, as in > within say 100-150 miles of central Ohio (as the Kolb flies). I would like to > enjoy that air jockey thing that the John's, Lar and others get to enjoy with > some frequency on a smaller budget and, because of work related projects, time > allows (picture weekends or overnight). > > I know of a Kolb in Marion, mine in Sunbury, one in Marysville area, one in > Fostoria, one in E. Liverpool and thats about it. Are there anymore of you out > there. If they don't do this board, does someone know of their wearabouts and > a way to contact them. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated and I will > keep a (landing) light on for ya! > > Humble Ralph, son of Ralph the mechanic, in central Ohio > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10229#10229 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Todd Fredricks, DO Flying Fox Services Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com POWERED BY MAC


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    Time: 07:19:39 AM PST US
    From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <neilsenrmf@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Ohio Kolbers
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <neilsenrmf@comcast.net> Ralph I live in Grand Ledge MI, that's 10 miles west of Lansing. I have a MKIIIc and a private strip next to the house. I could host a flyin or maybe make it to one of yours. Do not archive Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 4:02 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Ohio Kolbers > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com> > > All right Ohio'n, speak-up now or for ever hold your piece! If you live in > Ohio or near the edge of Ohio in KY, IN, PA, W Va or Mich, please respond. > > > It appears that a bunch (verses a flock or gander) of the Kolbers meet > every year somewhere (besides the Kolb factory) and talk, drink beer, camp > out and enjoy each others company. I'd like to do likewise on a smaller > scale, as in within say 100-150 miles of central Ohio (as the Kolb flies). > I would like to enjoy that air jockey thing that the John's, Lar and > others get to enjoy with some frequency on a smaller budget and, because > of work related projects, time allows (picture weekends or overnight). > > I know of a Kolb in Marion, mine in Sunbury, one in Marysville area, one > in Fostoria, one in E. Liverpool and thats about it. Are there anymore of > you out there. If they don't do this board, does someone know of their > wearabouts and a way to contact them. Your assistance would be greatly > appreciated and I will keep a (landing) light on for ya! > > Humble Ralph, son of Ralph the mechanic, in central Ohio > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10229#10229 > > >


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    Time: 07:41:10 AM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Pitot Tube
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Mine is slightly pointing down while on the ground and it works OK. It is below the nose bowl by several inches and slightly aft of the front end. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Jimmy wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jimmy" <jhankin@planters.net> > > With my Firefly on the ground the pitot tube is almost level, with it in > flying attitude the tube is a good bit down. Will this affect the > performance of the air speed indicator. It is now in the middle of the nose > cone. > > Jimmy Hankinson > 912-863-7384 > Firefly 035 > JYL (Sylvania) > Pegasus Field (Home) > 2000 Feet X 100 Feet- Grass > Rocky Ford, Georgia > Do Not Archive > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:00:17 AM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Entusiastic group
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> Americans call caravans trailers.>> Hi Tom, Thanks. I should have remembered that. It struck me after I sent the message that it is possible that some of the people involved in their project may owe their lives to our little adventure. Or more likely may have heard of it. We all enjoyed the whole thing and it was a tremendous boost for the Round Table movement. Pat do not archive --


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    Time: 08:04:08 AM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Entusiastic group
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> thinking you were talking about the Caravan 675>> Hi Will, at that time I dont think the net worth of our entire Club would have made a down payment on a Cessna Caravan.. Stupid me! Pat do not archive --


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    Time: 10:40:57 AM PST US
    From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
    Subject: Wing Fold Tube
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net> Guys, I previously asked if anyone has had problems with breaking rivets on the Wing Attach Fittings. Well the nomenclature is wrong, it's the Wing Fold Tube. (This is the tube under the horizontal stabilizer that the wing attaches to when folded for transport.) I talked to Travis at New Kolb and he's never heard of anyone having this problem. After we discussed it for awhile, Travis had me call Brian Milbourn, which I did. Brian also has never heard of anyone having this problem but after discussing a couple of solutions, it seems like we've identified the problem. Whoever built this plane was real sloppy in sizing the hole the Wing Fold Tube goes through. Brian says it is supposed to be a tight fit. Mine is really sloppy and the tube moves around quite a bit. The rivets are only in there to keep the tube in place, not to take the weight of the wings. Since the hole in my Boom Tube is oversize and it is a sloppy fit, then the rivets in my set up actually carry the weight of the wings, which is why they break. This makes sense to me and the fix is to make a sleeve to fit over the Wing Fold Tube that will "fill the hole," or take out the slop, and rivet it in from the opposite side. I haven't done this yet but will keep you informed as to how this turns out. On another subject, I told Brian that someone on the list had asked what it costs to have him build a Kolb. He said that he will build a Kolb Firestar from a Quick Build Kit for $7,800 - this includes two-tone paint. He also ok'd me publishing this information. This is the second time I've talked to Brian about a problem and I really appreciate the fact that he is very willing to take time and discuss things. He's a class guy, just like Travis and the rest of the Kolb crew. AzDave


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    Time: 10:50:56 AM PST US
    From: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net>
    Subject: Ohio Kolbers
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net> Todd, welcome. Moving to London, I hope, no knock Pat, that you are speaking of London Ohio. That's not that far away. We will defeantly put you on the local map. Thanks for responding. You can contact me off site and exchange phone numbers. Do not archive. Ralph of Ohio -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Todd Fredricks Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ohio Kolbers --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net> Athens Ohio but my Kolb is in the process of becoming in London right now. Todd On 2/5/06 4:02 PM, "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com> wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com> > > All right Ohio'n, speak-up now or for ever hold your piece! If you live in > Ohio or near the edge of Ohio in KY, IN, PA, W Va or Mich, please respond. > >


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    Time: 10:53:19 AM PST US
    From: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net>
    Subject: Ohio Kolbers
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net> Asome, Rick. And no I promise not to do any Ricky Neslon jokes. Contact me off line and we will exchange phone numbers. Your strip or mine. Tha sounds great. We will get together latter in the year. Thanks for responding. Ralph in Ohio Do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard & Martha Neilsen Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:18 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ohio Kolbers --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <neilsenrmf@comcast.net> Ralph I live in Grand Ledge MI, that's 10 miles west of Lansing. I have a MKIIIc and a private strip next to the house. I could host a flyin or maybe make it to one of yours. Do not archive Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 4:02 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Ohio Kolbers > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com> > > All right Ohio'n, speak-up now or for ever hold your piece! If you live in > Ohio or near the edge of Ohio in KY, IN, PA, W Va or Mich, please respond. > > > It appears that a bunch (verses a flock or gander) of the Kolbers meet > every year somewhere (besides the Kolb factory) and talk, drink beer, camp > out and enjoy each others company. I'd like to do likewise on a smaller > scale, as in within say 100-150 miles of central Ohio (as the Kolb flies). > I would like to enjoy that air jockey thing that the John's, Lar and > others get to enjoy with some frequency on a smaller budget and, because > of work related projects, time allows (picture weekends or overnight). > > I know of a Kolb in Marion, mine in Sunbury, one in Marysville area, one > in Fostoria, one in E. Liverpool and thats about it. Are there anymore of > you out there. If they don't do this board, does someone know of their > wearabouts and a way to contact them. Your assistance would be greatly > appreciated and I will keep a (landing) light on for ya! > > Humble Ralph, son of Ralph the mechanic, in central Ohio > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10229#10229 > > >


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    Time: 02:28:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Macrem'e 101 , 5 easy steps
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Well ? Did anybody "try it"....... . . . Gotta Fly... ..........Mike in MN -------- The more people I know.... The more I like MY DOG . . . . .Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10444#10444 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/seat_belt_macrame_002_315.jpg


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    Time: 04:49:27 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: Wing Fold Tube
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com> Dave, I have replaced those wing fold tube rivets at least 3 times in 19 years. They have never broken, but they do loosen up. I trailer my kolb and set it up and taken it down everytime I fly. It stores in the garage. Ralph Original Firestar 19 years flying it -- "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net> wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net> Guys, I previously asked if anyone has had problems with breaking rivets on the Wing Attach Fittings. Well the nomenclature is wrong, it's the Wing Fold Tube. (This is the tube under the horizontal stabilizer that the wing attaches to when folded for transport.) I talked to Travis at New Kolb and he's never heard of anyone having this problem. After we discussed it for awhile, Travis had me call Brian Milbourn, which I did. Brian also has never heard of anyone having this problem but after discussing a couple of solutions, it seems like we've identified the problem. Whoever built this plane was real sloppy in sizing the hole the Wing Fold Tube goes through. Brian says it is supposed to be a tight fit. Mine is really sloppy and the tube moves around quite a bit. The rivets are only in there to keep the tube in place, not to take the weight of the wings. Since the hole in my Boom Tube is oversize and it is a sloppy fit, then the rivets in my set up actually carry the w! eight of the wings, which is why they break. This makes sense to me and the fix is to make a sleeve to fit over the Wing Fold Tube that will "fill the hole," or take out the slop, and rivet it in from the opposite side. I haven't done this yet but will keep you informed as to how this turns out. On another subject, I told Brian that someone on the list had asked what it costs to have him build a Kolb. He said that he will build a Kolb Firestar from a Quick Build Kit for $7,800 - this includes two-tone paint. He also ok'd me publishing this information. This is the second time I've talked to Brian about a problem and I really appreciate the fact that he is very willing to take time and discuss things. He's a class guy, just like Travis and the rest of the Kolb crew. AzDave Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month!


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    Time: 05:17:33 PM PST US
    From: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Wing Fold Tube
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com> Ralph, What engine do you have on your original Firestar? do no archive Ralph <ul15rhb@juno.com> wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" Dave, I have replaced those wing fold tube rivets at least 3 times in 19 years. They have never broken, but they do loosen up. I trailer my kolb and set it up and taken it down everytime I fly. It stores in the garage. Ralph Original Firestar 19 years flying it Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with


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    Time: 05:37:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ohio Kolbers
    From: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net> No. I have two airstrips in Athens, so no moving. But at this very moment I am in Lexington KY on my way to the factory at London KY to check out the fit of the MarkIII X fuselage against my decidely large frame. Also to get the half-unit on board for the process as well. Will get photos and post them as well. Will stay in the Southeastern corner of Ohio and provide forced landing area for other Kolb people going to and from places near and far. Todd On 2/6/06 1:50 PM, "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net> wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net> > > Todd, welcome. Moving to London, I hope, no knock Pat, that you are speaking > of London Ohio. That's not that far away. We will defeantly put you on the > local map. Thanks for responding. You can contact me off site and exchange > phone numbers. > > > Do not archive. > Ralph of Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Todd Fredricks > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:59 AM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ohio Kolbers > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net> > > Athens Ohio but my Kolb is in the process of becoming in London right now. > > Todd > > > On 2/5/06 4:02 PM, "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com> wrote: > >> >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com> >> >> All right Ohio'n, speak-up now or for ever hold your piece! If you live in >> Ohio or near the edge of Ohio in KY, IN, PA, W Va or Mich, please respond. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Todd Fredricks, DO Flying Fox Services Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com POWERED BY MAC


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    Time: 06:09:08 PM PST US
    From: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net>
    Subject: Ohio Kolbers
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net> Todd, Reminds me of my Harley years. Although I only had one, as that's all any man can use at any given time, many of the community I ran with had two or three bikes. One gets dirty or isn't the right color for the rags they would were, they would take another one. But man, two airfields; out of one and into the other, great! Give me your lat and long at some point and I market it in my booklet. I am hangered at a Johnstown private field. For the sake of conversation we have about 10-15 small private fields within 20 miles as the Kolb flies. While you're down at the factory tell Travis and Donny that the Rev. Ralph in central Ohio said hi. Let me know when you get back and we will swap stories. Adequate Ralph in central Ohio -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Todd Fredricks Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ohio Kolbers --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net> No. I have two airstrips in Athens, so no moving. But at this very moment I am in Lexington KY on my way to the factory at London KY to check out the fit of the MarkIII X fuselage against my decidely large frame. Also to get the half-unit on board for the process as well. Will get photos and post them as well. Will stay in the Southeastern corner of Ohio and provide forced landing area for other Kolb people going to and from places near and far. Todd On 2/6/06 1:50 PM, "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net> wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net> > > Todd, welcome. Moving to London, I hope, no knock Pat, that you are speaking > of London Ohio. That's not that far away. We will defeantly put you on the > local map. Thanks for responding. You can contact me off site and exchange > phone numbers. > > > Do not archive. > Ralph of Ohio > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Todd Fredricks > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:59 AM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ohio Kolbers > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net> > > Athens Ohio but my Kolb is in the process of becoming in London right now. > > Todd > > > On 2/5/06 4:02 PM, "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com> wrote: > >> >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com> >> >> All right Ohio'n, speak-up now or for ever hold your piece! If you live in >> Ohio or near the edge of Ohio in KY, IN, PA, W Va or Mich, please respond. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Todd Fredricks, DO Flying Fox Services Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com POWERED BY MAC


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    Time: 06:45:33 PM PST US
    From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Ohio Kolbers
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net> Ralph, Sounds like a great idea, as long as my work allows, count me in. Denny Rowe, Mk-3 Leechburg PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 4:02 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Ohio Kolbers > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com> > > All right Ohio'n, speak-up now or for ever hold your piece! If you live in > Ohio or near the edge of Ohio in KY, IN, PA, W Va or Mich, please respond. > > > It appears that a bunch (verses a flock or gander) of the Kolbers meet > every year somewhere (besides the Kolb factory) and talk, drink beer, camp > out and enjoy each others company. I'd like to do likewise on a smaller > scale, as in within say 100-150 miles of central Ohio (as the Kolb flies). > I would like to enjoy that air jockey thing that the John's, Lar and > others get to enjoy with some frequency on a smaller budget and, because > of work related projects, time allows (picture weekends or overnight). > > I know of a Kolb in Marion, mine in Sunbury, one in Marysville area, one > in Fostoria, one in E. Liverpool and thats about it. Are there anymore of > you out there. If they don't do this board, does someone know of their > wearabouts and a way to contact them. Your assistance would be greatly > appreciated and I will keep a (landing) light on for ya! > > Humble Ralph, son of Ralph the mechanic, in central Ohio > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10229#10229 > > > -- > >




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