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1. 01:56 AM - Re: Plug/Plugged Nickel... (pat ladd)
2. 08:33 AM - Re: 10K Club (rlaird)
3. 01:47 PM - Re: Re: Entusiastic group aka english/american (pat ladd)
4. 01:59 PM - Re: VG Installation (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
5. 02:20 PM - Re: Re: VG Installation (mike moulai)
6. 02:21 PM - Re: Evening flight (JetPilot)
7. 02:26 PM - Re: Re: VG Installation (Chris Mallory)
8. 03:33 PM - Re: Re: VG Installation (John Hauck)
9. 05:29 PM - Re: Ohio Kolbers (Kirk Smith)
10. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: Ohio Kolbers (John Hauck)
11. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: Ohio Kolbers (Kirk Smith)
12. 06:41 PM - Re: Re: VG Installation (possums)
13. 07:02 PM - Re: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin (DAquaNut@aol.com)
14. 07:31 PM - Re: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin (Robert Laird)
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| Subject: | Re: Plug/Plugged Nickel... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
To "plug" a coin means to remove its center, >>
Thanks David,
I was nearly there. I just assumed, wrongly` that the middle had been shot
out. Thanks
Cheers
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "rlaird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
I just found out that the Global Flyer is going to fly right over Houston.... at
46,000 feet. Maybe I should jump in my Kolb, joing the 46K Club, and wave to
him as he zips by at 300 knots! ;-)
-- Robert
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Robert Laird
MkIIIc/912ULS
Houston, TX
http://www.Texas-Flyer.com
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| Subject: | Re: Entusiastic group aka english/american |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
We're getting really off-topic, but, I'm curious.....>>
Hi Robert,
you are right, we are getting off topic and it may well be
boring for others on the list. Particularly if I forget to put the `archive`
thing on.
Drop me a post at pj.ladd @btinternet.com.uk and I will be delighted to
answer anything I can.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Kiwimick writes: << The Landshorter type and the 3" pitch falls right in the
valleys between the ribs, >>
Spacing between ribs on my Mark-III are anywhere from 5 to 5-1/4 inches
apart. Width of the valleys are not all the same. I could not achieve a
symmetrical spacing of VGs on my wing using Kiwimick's 3-inch spacing. Mike
M: Are your ribs at 6-inch intervals?
I plan to install my LandShorter fins 2 per valley, centered at about two
and a half inches apart. I'll make the template from a piece of cardboard,
with the slots angled as prescribed by Harrison Designs. I figure as long
as the 2 VGs per valley are uniformly spaced, it won't matter if the valleys
vary slightly in width.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912ul in
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "mike moulai" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
Hi Dennis, No Mine are standard spacing.
Joa advised me to use 3" spacing, this means the pairs are at 3" which fits
between each rib in the valley, however the spacing between the pairs is not
3" it is much less. Simply fit the 3" pairs centrally in each valley.
BTW I conducted the first 2 flights in Pat Ladd's Bird yesterday, a little
tweeking needed but generally all went very well, 1 hr down 14 to go.
Regards
Mike
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From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 9:58 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: VG Installation
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL
> <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> Kiwimick writes: << The Landshorter type and the 3" pitch falls right in
> the
> valleys between the ribs, >>
>
> Spacing between ribs on my Mark-III are anywhere from 5 to 5-1/4 inches
> apart. Width of the valleys are not all the same. I could not achieve a
> symmetrical spacing of VGs on my wing using Kiwimick's 3-inch spacing.
> Mike
> M: Are your ribs at 6-inch intervals?
>
> I plan to install my LandShorter fins 2 per valley, centered at about two
> and a half inches apart. I'll make the template from a piece of
> cardboard,
> with the slots angled as prescribed by Harrison Designs. I figure as long
> as the 2 VGs per valley are uniformly spaced, it won't matter if the
> valleys
> vary slightly in width.
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-III, 912ul in
> Cedar Crest, NM
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Evening flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Man that sounds like fun, How long did it take you to build the Firefly ? I cant
wait to be flying myself :) Where are you located Ed ??
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NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
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| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Most of the VG's that I've seen (including Brother Pike's) have them
centered on the wing ribs, some however are centered in the valleys. This is
what prompted my question on where to place them.
Myself, I'm going to center them as Mr. Pike and "The" Beauford have done
.... on the ribs and space each pair at 3" (1% of the total wing span minus
the width of the cage) as per the Harrison instructions.
Let us know how yours work.
Chris Mallory
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| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
which fits
| between each rib in the valley, however the spacing between the
pairs is not
| 3" it is much less. Simply fit the 3" pairs centrally in each
valley.
Hi Mike M:
The info above is what I was trying to get from you the last time I
posted reference spacing and rib valleys.
Is the trailing edge of the MKIIIx wing tapered or parallel to the
leading edge? Was wondering if one would have to compensate for 10%
back placement based on the MKIII wing. It is tapered based on the
ailerons and flaps.
Trying to learn what I can about VGs.
Take care,
john h
PS: Good to hear Patrick L's MKIIIx flies.
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Kolbers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
"2000 x 75 is big enough for even me to land in! In this instance it's OK to
brag about size among men. HA, HA! "
Ohio Ralph
Just watchout for deer.......
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Kolbers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Snuff:
And those big ass mosquitoes.
Take care,
john h
PS: Wild mosquitoes, Michigan born and bred. ;-)
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Kolbers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
> And those big ass mosquitoes.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
>
> PS: Wild mosquitoes, Michigan born and bred. ;-)
They like fresh meat once in a while tooo......sides, they ain't got malaria
here, I don't think.............
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| Subject: | Re: VG Installation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
>
>I plan to install my LandShorter fins 2 per valley, centered at about two
>and a half inches apart. I'll make the template from a piece of cardboard,
>with the slots angled as prescribed by Harrison Designs. I figure as long
>as the 2 VGs per valley are uniformly spaced, it won't matter if the valleys
>vary slightly in width.
>
>Dennis Kirby
That's what I did & it worked for me. Not on top of the ribs/
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| Subject: | Re: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 2/2/2006 5:51:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, beauford@tam
pabay.rr.com writes:
Personally, I use an AN washer on the clevis under my safety pins just to
make certain
there is never any direct contact between the safety pin and the fittings
should the clevis slide some...
I've heard that quite a few folks do this... I also make a point of looking
closely at the clevis
and safety pins for signs of wear, cracks or unusual grooves every time I
install 'em.
Worth what ye paid fer it... Good luck...
Beauford ,
That,s a good Idea I think I will use it. Thanks!
Ed Do not archive it!
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| Subject: | Re: Main Spar Clevis Pin Safety Pin |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
I not 100% sure of this, but I think the washer is a required item if you
get a UL/UL trainer certified as an E-LSA.
-- Robert
On 2/9/06, DAquaNut@aol.com <DAquaNut@aol.com> wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 2/2/2006 5:51:58 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> beauford@tam
> pabay.rr.com writes:
>
>
> Personally, I use an AN washer on the clevis under my safety pins just to
> make certain
> there is never any direct contact between the safety pin and the fittings
> should the clevis slide some...
> I've heard that quite a few folks do this... I also make a point of
> looking
> closely at the clevis
> and safety pins for signs of wear, cracks or unusual grooves every time I
> install 'em.
>
> Worth what ye paid fer it... Good luck...
>
>
> Beauford ,
>
> That,s a good Idea I think I will use it. Thanks!
>
> Ed Do not archive it!
>
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