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1. 03:59 AM - Re: Control Surface Flutter ???? (JetPilot)
2. 04:34 AM - blade tracking (Edward Steuber)
3. 04:52 AM - Re: Re: Control Surface Flutter ???? aka voting for pres. (robert bean)
4. 05:34 AM - Re: best price on 503 (Denny Rowe)
5. 05:59 AM - Re: Re: Control Surface Flutter ???? aka voting for pres. (Larry Bourne)
6. 07:17 AM - Re: Re: Control Surface Flutter ???? (John Hauck)
7. 08:31 AM - Re: towers (pat ladd)
8. 08:58 AM - Re: Re: Control Surface Flutter ???? (pat ladd)
9. 09:18 AM - Re: towers (pat ladd)
10. 09:57 AM - aka voting for pres.Naming towns (pat ladd)
11. 10:12 AM - Re: best price on 503 (Herb Gayheart)
12. 10:16 AM - Re: aka voting for pres.Naming towns (Robert Noyer)
13. 12:57 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/16/06 (Vic)
14. 01:45 PM - Re: towers (Richard Pike)
15. 02:45 PM - I got one!!! An Extra with a 912!!! There's a new bird in town!!! (David Key)
16. 03:04 PM - I got one!!! An Extra with a 912!!! There's a new bird in (John Hauck)
17. 03:04 PM - Re: I got one!!! An Extra with a 912!!! There's a new bird in (John Hauck)
18. 03:40 PM - Re: best price on 503 (Steven Green)
19. 04:23 PM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/16/06 (flht99reh)
20. 05:32 PM - Re: Re: I got one!!! An Extra with a 912!!! There's a new bird in (David Key)
21. 06:14 PM - Re: best price on 503 (Larry Cottrell)
22. 07:55 PM - Re: Firestar tail question (possums)
23. 08:02 PM - Re: best price on 503 (Richard Pike)
24. 08:18 PM - Re: best price on 503 (Herb Gayheart)
25. 08:22 PM - Re: I got one!!! An Extra with a 912!!! There's a new bird in (JetPilot)
26. 08:33 PM - Re: towers (flht99reh)
27. 10:04 PM - Re: best price on 503 (Larry Cottrell)
28. 10:23 PM - Re: best price on 503 (Herb Gayheart)
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| Subject: | Re: Control Surface Flutter ???? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
I have been searching the archives, and there seems to be a lot in there about
flutter on Kolbs [Shocked] I have several cases where people have put counterweights
on thier ailerons and rudder...
Has anyone ever had flutter in the elevators or put counterweights on those ?
[Question]
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NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
Ed,
I had the same problem with vibration ...solved by adding a third blade to
the IVO. Result was less pitch per blade and smooth......
And as for the Politics thread......I think maybe we should stay on topic
which is KOLB RELATED !
I Hate Politics ED in Western
NY
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| Subject: | Re: Control Surface Flutter ???? aka voting for pres. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Judge Roy.........
do not archive
On 20, Feb 2006, at 12:10 AM, Jim Baker wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@telepath.com>
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> I'm Judge Crater's illigitemate son.......
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> Jim Baker
> 580.788.2779
> '71 SV, 492TC
> Elmore City, OK
>
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| Subject: | Re: best price on 503 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Larry,
I don't know the best place to buy your engine but I would shop around all
the big dealers including Green Sky and Lockwood etc, also check with Kolb,
sometimes the manufacturers pass engine discounts on to the buyers.
Also consider the C gearbox with the 3.47 reduction and the tapered Warp
drive blades or a Powerfin F model three blade. The big reduction ratio will
give you the ability to swing the 70 -72 inch blades that will deliver
maximum thrust. You will have to raise the engine mounts a little but you'll
know you have all the power you can get from your 503.
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, 690L-70, Powerfin do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Control Surface Flutter ???? aka voting for pres. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Nawwww...........yer East of the Pecos. Do not Archive
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "robert bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Control Surface Flutter ???? aka voting for
pres.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
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> Judge Roy.........
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> do not archive
> On 20, Feb 2006, at 12:10 AM, Jim Baker wrote:
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>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@telepath.com>
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>> I'm Judge Crater's illigitemate son.......
>>
>> Jim Baker
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| Subject: | Re: Control Surface Flutter ???? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
there about flutter on Kolbs [Shocked]
Mike B:
Should not be shocked if you look at the way those big ailerons are
hung on the wing by their leading edge.
I experienced aileron flutter on my Ultrastar, Firestar, and MKIII.
Was not until Old Kolb experienced flutter with the FSII that a fix
was designed and produced. Soon as they became available, I installed
FSII counterbalance weights on my MKIII. Have never had a hint of
flutter since that day.
Don't know why we don't have flutter problems with the elevators, but
as far as I know we don't. There was some flutter problem with the
early Twinstar elevator caused by the adjustable trim tab mechanism.
One fatality is recorded because the trim tab cable attachment broke,
or something to that effect.
I never had rudder occillation or flutter on the US and FS, however, I
experienced it regularly with the MKIII. Keeping my feet on the
pedals was an early cure. Then double springs on the rudder pedals
fixed that problem on my MKIII. Richard P used a counterbalance
weight on his MKIII rudder.
john h
MKIII/912ULS
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Pat's (Ladd) having a blast reading about our simple suffering, since in
England they don't have any traditional rights left.>>
Hi,
not quite right but we are getting there. A bad week this week. Legislation
was passed for the introduction of ID Cards. I am against them because a)
what I do is nobody elses business, and certainly not the Governments, b) it
has been sold as an anti terrorist measure. Do they think terrorists wont
get a fake ID Card? Just the same pack of lies that Bush and Blair used to
start the `oil war`. c) it is supposed to stop people falsely drawing
various entitlements, unemployment pay etc.,. Wanna bet?. d) the company
which will run the computer program to back all this up has already failed
to implement about 3 previous programs for the Government. e) it will cost
billions and give employment to thousands just to keep every birth, death,
address change, immigration, emmigration etc., up to date.
f) it reduces us to nothing better than some damned Frenchman or other
European lowlife where any jumped up little `flic` can stop you in the
street and demand `your papers`.
What did we fight the war for?
Pat
(feeling a bit chocka)
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| Subject: | Re: Control Surface Flutter ???? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
I remember your nav light causing your rudder to flutter a bit,>>
Hi Michael,
here is a story about the ultimate rudder flutter.
During the war there was some experimentation with glider towing by a
Lysander. A Lysander was a big monoplane. Parasol wing (of odd shape)
double strutted, fixed spatted (trousered)undercarriage. It had a massive
radial engine and normally carried a crew of 2 in a long greenhouse. Because
it could fly at very low speeds it was used for army cooperation and for
dropping and recovering agents from fields in the dark in the Occupied
Countries, often carrying 6 people in an emergency. It also had a large
rudder.
Some bright spark decided that glider towing by Lysander in the dark was a
good idea. In the dark the glider pilot couldn`t see where he was in
relation to the tug so a large `L` shape with a light on it was fixed to the
rear of the fuselage with the long leg of the `L` sticking up vertically
just behind the rudder.
When this combination took off and airspeed increased, a bow wave of air
built up ahead of the vertical bar and slammed the rudder of the Lysander
hard over. This induced a violent sideslip and with the glider hanging on
for dear life they were just about able to climb away into the darkness. The
Lysander pilot managed to get both feet on one pedal and pushed as hard as
he could. The rudder came straight, and then slammed over in the other
direction.
In this fashion the pair managed to make a vast circle at little more than
treetop height until they got close enough to the airfield again for the
glider to cast off and land. Relieved of the extra problem of the glider
the Lysander pilot was able to climb a bit and he made another circuit and
put the plane down.
What the pilot said to the boffin who dreamed up the idea is not recorded.
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
you can *never* trust *any* government, >>
Shakespeare, as usual, said it.
`Put not your trust in Princes`
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | aka voting for pres.Naming towns |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
..the town he founded in 1833.>>
Fascinating. Just as a matter of interest, how do you go about founding a
town? Do you just turn up in your Conestoga, drive in a stake and announce
`This is Kolbville`
Intriguing as we have no towns named like that in the UK. Most of our place
names are are descriptions of the locations, usually derived from Saxon,
Danish etc. My town of Bradford on Avon was originally `a broad ford`
across the river. Trowbridge, a nearby town was `Truebrygge`
Many rivers are called `Avon` because when invaders pointed to a river and
asked what it was called the answer was `avon` which was not the name at all
but the local word for `river`.
Curious
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: best price on 503 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Speaking of Props---I think the boys at Kolb are handling one of the
European brands now.. Herb
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:32:24 -0500 "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe"
> <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
> Larry,
> I don't know the best place to buy your engine but I would shop
> around all
> the big dealers including Green Sky and Lockwood etc, also check
> with Kolb,
> sometimes the manufacturers pass engine discounts on to the buyers.
> Also consider the C gearbox with the 3.47 reduction and the tapered
> Warp
> drive blades or a Powerfin F model three blade. The big reduction
> ratio will
> give you the ability to swing the 70 -72 inch blades that will
> deliver
> maximum thrust. You will have to raise the engine mounts a little
> but you'll
> know you have all the power you can get from your 503.
>
> Denny Rowe, Mk-3, 690L-70, Powerfin do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: aka voting for pres.Naming towns |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
That's it.
Bob N.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/16/06 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic" <vicw@vcn.com>
Ralph:
You mentioned Arizona and towers not being a problem. I fly west of Phoenix
were we actually have about 3 square miles of uncontrolled airspace and let
me tell you, there are lots of towers out there. Some blinking and some
not. Our biggest problem is that we fly in the vicinity of a nuclear power
plant and there are power lines every where and some are really tall. None
of these towers have lights but they are big enough that they are not to
difficult to see and I know where most of them are. My rule is to pick a
tower and fly directly over it because the power lines are difficult to see.
Another thing that helps is to follow the center of the road. I have seen
lots of towers either side of a road but never one in the middle of the road
or in the land between a devided highway. I am sure there is an exception.
I learned IFR (I Follow Roads) flying when I was a Spam Can pilot and we
would "scud run" to get home.
Most towers are not a problem in our area if you stay more than 500 feet
AGL. One of out biggest obstacles is the housing development balloons.
There are so many housing construction sites and many of them are going to
teethed balloons as an attraction. I have a Gatlin gun modification
ordered. I guess that might blow the weight right off the scale.
Vic - Buckeye, AZ
Do not archive.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Shakespeare was a Biblically literate man, and he got that from Psalms 146:3
Cheers
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
pat ladd wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> you can *never* trust *any* government, >>
>
> Shakespeare, as usual, said it.
>
> `Put not your trust in Princes`
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
>
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| Subject: | I got one!!! An Extra with a 912!!! There's a new bird in town!!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
After lurking for so long, I'm the proud new owner of a new extra with a
912!! John Williamson better get ready for some company!! I will add a 20
gallon gas tank and set it up for x-c. A dream come true!! I live in Plano,
Tx. It won't be built by MV 2006 but should be by the June 21 28 East
Coast USA 2006,Wright Monument and Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome and Oshkosh
AirVenture 2006 and also The New Kolb Aircraft Company Homecoming 2006 22
23 September. Watch out there's a new bird in town. WHEEEEW AT LAST!!!
David Key
Mark III Extra 912 <------- check out my new signature, ahhhhhhhhh
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| Subject: | I got one!!! An Extra with a 912!!! There's a new bird in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
After lurking for so long, I'm the proud new owner of a new extra with a
| 912!! |
| David Key
| Mark III Extra 912
Sounds like somebody is happy!!!
So far, we haven't had an X join our merry band of XC'ers. As a matter of fact,
I haven't had a chance to fly along side one more than a few minutes, and that
was at Labhart Field, KY.
Hope I don't get left too far behind when all these new airplanes start hitting
the air. ;-)
Looking forward to seeing your new airplane, and all the others that have come
on board recently.
About three months to MV. Shoot fire! I'm getting excited about that too. And.........a
month and days until Lakeland.
Take care,
--------
John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: I got one!!! An Extra with a 912!!! There's a new bird |
in
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> After lurking for so long, I'm the proud new owner of a new extra with a
>
Post some photos of the new bird, please!
--------
John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: best price on 503 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
Larry,
If you want to go all the way to a 582 I can fix you right up. Engine,
prop, mounts, the whole works ready to run. $3,950
Steven Green
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:13 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: best price on 503
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
>
> I am considering upgrading to a 503 for my firestar II, and was wondering
if
> any one in this great group of knowledge, would know the best (cheapest)
> place to obtain this engine? Will I need anything else like a mounting
plate
> or will the 447 one I have fit? I would also entertain suggestions for a
> three blade prop for it as well.
>
> do not archive
>
> Larry, Oregon
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/16/06 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net>
Vic, it was a "openness" statement. But I see that you have to deal with
other problems. According to somebody somewhere: if something is tethered
from the ground, it isn't officially flying and doesn't come into FAA
jurisdiction! Probably wrong. Might be a myth. By the way, gatlin guns are
really archaic. Lasers are now very in and leave no reminates. However they
do require a considerable amount of power. Power is weight and weight will
hold a plane.
Ralph of Ohio.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vic
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/16/06
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic" <vicw@vcn.com>
Ralph:
You mentioned Arizona and towers not being a problem. I fly west of Phoenix
were we actually have about 3 square miles of uncontrolled airspace and let
me tell you, there are lots of towers out there. Some blinking and some
not. Our biggest problem is that we fly in the vicinity of a nuclear power
plant and there are power lines every where and some are really tall. None
of these towers have lights but they are big enough that they are not to
difficult to see and I know where most of them are. My rule is to pick a
tower and fly directly over it because the power lines are difficult to see.
Another thing that helps is to follow the center of the road. I have seen
lots of towers either side of a road but never one in the middle of the road
or in the land between a devided highway. I am sure there is an exception.
I learned IFR (I Follow Roads) flying when I was a Spam Can pilot and we
would "scud run" to get home.
Most towers are not a problem in our area if you stay more than 500 feet
AGL. One of out biggest obstacles is the housing development balloons.
There are so many housing construction sites and many of them are going to
teethed balloons as an attraction. I have a Gatlin gun modification
ordered. I guess that might blow the weight right off the scale.
Vic - Buckeye, AZ
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: I got one!!! An Extra with a 912!!! There's a new bird |
in
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
Sure John,
The photos are at http://www.LisaTurner.com click Kolb project.
I'm getting it as is with all the instruments, a lot for an ultralight but I
fly out of class D airspace, under class B, in a mode C veil.
Looks like I'll be the first Xtra in the XC'ers group then, the pace is
already fast, I didn't want to slow anyone down. I'm sure a ULS will be just
fine. I'm aiming at the East Coast USA 2006, Wright Monument and Old
Rhinebeck Aerodrome 21 28 June. Wife things are on the radar too for that
month....
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: best price on 503 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
> If you want to go all the way to a 582 I can fix you right up. Engine,
> prop, mounts, the whole works ready to run. $3,950
>
> Steven Green
>
Thank you very much, but I think I will stick with the 503. I intend to go
to an area that gas is scarce.
>> do not archive
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>> Larry, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar tail question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/Sideview.jpg
I've been flying it that way for almost 7 years now - hasn't caused a problem.
I too - didn't want to cover up what I thought might be a problem to
get to later.
Never was a problem... but never got around to covering it either. 675 hrs.
No problem. If you spin them, that's the least of your worries. These
things are
very hard to spin anyway and you couldn't do it by accident. If you
want to try,
their are plenty of things in the archives to give you spin instructions.
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
>One of our locals has an older Firestar, about an 1988 model, and he
>recently had to repair the lower tailwheel section under the tail
>He is repairing it and has said that he does not intend to
>recover it, but leave it open.
>
>Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of this that I can pass on to him?
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
A FSII with a 582 turning 4900 rpm goes as fast as one with a 503
turning 5600 rpm and uses about the same amount of fuel. There are
reasons to choose a 503 over a 582, but fuel economy isn't one of them.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Richard Steve Larry
I have two friends who ran Rans S-12 's side by side for several
years... One with a 503 and the other with a 582. The 582 won on Fuel
consumption. Herb
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:02:32 -0500 Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
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> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
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> A FSII with a 582 turning 4900 rpm goes as fast as one with a 503
> turning 5600 rpm and uses about the same amount of fuel. There are
> reasons to choose a 503 over a 582, but fuel economy isn't one of
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> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: I got one!!! An Extra with a 912!!! There's a new bird |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Where did you find a MK-III Xtra ?? Was it already built and flying ? I would
love to hear more about it :D
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NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=13477#13477
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flht99reh" <flht99reh@netzero.net>
For all you (and me) old fogies out there. If the print is too small to read
follow the below. I couldn't believe it. I thought someone was sending me a
joke. NOT!
Really works. Don't say you didn't learn something from Ralph of Ohio.
I just found this out and thought I'd pass it on. It's very useful when
trying to read small print (especially in the early hours). If you hold
down the Ctrl key on your key board and then turn the small wheel in the
middle of your mouse away from you or towards you, the print size will
change - it will either get larger or smaller - depending on which way you
turn the wheel
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| Subject: | Re: best price on 503 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herb Gayheart" <herbgh@juno.com>
> I have two friends who ran Rans S-12 's side by side for several
> years... One with a 503 and the other with a 582. The 582 won on Fuel
> consumption. Herb
>> Mr Pike wrote-
>> A FSII with a 582 turning 4900 rpm goes as fast as one with a 503
>> turning 5600 rpm and uses about the same amount of fuel.
I am sure that both of you are right, however, I (personal opinion only)
prefer to run the engine a bit faster than midrange. Then too I am sure that
if I had the power, I would abuse it. It is the way that I am.
Larry, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: best price on 503 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Larry
It should be noted that the 503 ran out to over 600 hours trouble free
and the 582 went down with a seizeure at 150 or so.. Herb
> I am sure that both of you are right, however, I (personal opinion
> only)
> prefer to run the engine a bit faster than midrange. Then too I am
> sure that
> if I had the power, I would abuse it. It is the way that I am.
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> Larry, Oregon
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> do not archive
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