Kolb-List Digest Archive

Thu 02/23/06


Total Messages Posted: 31



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     1. 06:48 AM - Re: Penzoil (Rick Miles)
     2. 08:08 AM - Re: Penzoil (Ed Chmielewski)
     3. 08:25 AM - Re: Brake Line Question (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
     4. 08:40 AM - Re: Re: Brake Line Question (russ kinne)
     5. 08:47 AM - Re: Penzoil (DAquaNut@aol.com)
     6. 09:00 AM - Re: Brake Line Question (John Hauck)
     7. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: Brake Line Question (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
     8. 10:21 AM - Re: Re: Brake Line Question (DAquaNut@aol.com)
     9. 11:10 AM - Re: LSA Repairman Certificate Limitations (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
    10. 11:19 AM - Re: best price on 503 (Paul Petty)
    11. 11:20 AM - Re: Penzoil (Ed Chmielewski)
    12. 11:47 AM - Re: Re: Brake Line Question (kuffel)
    13. 12:16 PM - Re: LSA Repairman Certificate Limitations (David Lehman)
    14. 12:50 PM - Re: LSA Repairman Certificate Limitations (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
    15. 01:23 PM - Re: Re: Brake Line Question (N27SB@aol.com)
    16. 01:45 PM - Re: Penzoil (Rick Miles)
    17. 04:15 PM - E-Bay Mark III (ray anderson)
    18. 04:56 PM - Re: Penzoil (Beauford)
    19. 06:00 PM - Re: Brake Line Question (John Hauck)
    20. 06:12 PM - Re: Safety rings (DAquaNut@aol.com)
    21. 06:36 PM - Re: Safety rings (John Hauck)
    22. 07:12 PM - Re: Safety rings (Richard Pike)
    23. 07:12 PM - Re: Safety rings (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
    24. 07:27 PM - Re: Re: Brake Line Question (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
    25. 07:45 PM - Re: Safety rings (John Hauck)
    26. 07:45 PM - Re: Safety rings (John Hauck)
    27. 07:58 PM - Re: Safety rings (Richard Pike)
    28. 08:03 PM - Re: Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics! (Ron)
    29. 08:58 PM - Re: Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... (Ron)
    30. 10:16 PM - Re: Safety rings (Denny Rowe)
    31. 10:28 PM - Safety Rings (Denny Rowe)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:48:33 AM PST US
    From: Rick Miles <ultrastarrick@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Penzoil
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Rick Miles <ultrastarrick@yahoo.com> I prefer to use the motorcycle race oils ( golden spectrum ) as thy do not carbon up the cylinders as bad as the cheep 2 stroke outboard oils. DAquaNut@aol.com wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com Saw on the rotax list where it was said Penzoil 2- cycle oil goes bad in about a year on the shelf. Any one else heard that, and is there any truth to it? Ed ---------------------------------


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    Time: 08:08:34 AM PST US
    From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Penzoil
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com> Rick/All, I've run Pennzoil AIR COOLED 2-stroke in all my engines. Never a problem. I don't consider it a 'cheap 2-stroke' oil tho. Ed in JXN MkII/503 Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Miles" <ultrastarrick@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:45 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Penzoil > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Rick Miles <ultrastarrick@yahoo.com> > > I prefer to use the motorcycle race oils ( golden spectrum ) as thy do not > carbon up the cylinders as bad as the cheep 2 stroke outboard oils.


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    Time: 08:25:42 AM PST US
    From: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    Subject: Re: Brake Line Question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Thanks to all who responded to my brake problems! As Rick Neilsen and John Hauck suggested, my brake line likely blew out due to my own ineptitude in assembling the thing in the first place. Live & learn. Sounds like these "Nylo-Flow" fittings are acceptable, if installed correctly. Will make sure the fittings are well & tight next time. On the question regarding protecting these nylon (not plastic) brake lines from UV, I keep the sun off by wrapping spiral wrap (typically used on wire bundles) on all exposed brake line. I copied this idea from someone else on this List (but I don't remember who). Dennis Kirby do not archive


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    Time: 08:40:13 AM PST US
    From: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Brake Line Question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net> FWIW -- I used braided-stainless brake lines on my Cessna -- they worked fine & looked great but after a few hundred hours sprang a leak. Apparently the braid can fracture & punch pinhole leaks in the teflon tubing -- after quite a while. The drip gives you plenty of time to correct things before any serious leaks occur. On Feb 23, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL > <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > > Thanks to all who responded to my brake problems! > > As Rick Neilsen and John Hauck suggested, my brake line likely blew > out due > to my own ineptitude in assembling the thing in the first place. > Live & > learn. Sounds like these "Nylo-Flow" fittings are acceptable, if > installed > correctly. Will make sure the fittings are well & tight next time. > > On the question regarding protecting these nylon (not plastic) > brake lines > from UV, I keep the sun off by wrapping spiral wrap (typically used > on wire > bundles) on all exposed brake line. I copied this idea from > someone else on > this List (but I don't remember who). > > Dennis Kirby > do not archive > >


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    Time: 08:47:44 AM PST US
    From: DAquaNut@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Penzoil
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com In a message dated 2/23/2006 8:49:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, ultrastarrick@yahoo.com writes: I prefer to use the motorcycle race oils ( golden spectrum ) as thy do not carbon up the cylinders as bad as the cheep 2 stroke outboard oils. DAquaNut@aol.com wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com Saw on the rotax list where it was said Penzoil 2- cycle oil goes bad in about a year on the shelf. Any one else heard that, and is there any truth to it? Rick, I dont mean to be ugly but if you read my question above you will see you did not answer my question. I did not mean to start an oil war. I just am trying to find out if it is true that Pennzoil goes bad after sitting on a shelf for a year or so. It seems to me if it had a shelf life it should have a warning on the bottle. PLEASE This is not a debate which oil is best! Ed Diebel


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    Time: 09:00:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brake Line Question
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Dennis K: Your nylo-seal fitting problem and Rick N's is the first time I have heard of anyone having a problem. Instructions indicate not to overtighten the fitting, so it would be easy enough to not tighten it to the properly. Like I said yesterday, the right hand main wheel broke off when I crashed at Muncho Lake. As I continued crashing, the 800X6 tire, wheel, brake, and axle were being drug along by that little plastic brake line. It did not fail, but did put some permanent kinks and bends in it. Have been flying with it that way for the past 5 years or so with no problems. The stuff is tough. -------- John Hauck MKIII/912ULS hauck's holler, alabama Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14386#14386


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    Time: 10:09:10 AM PST US
    From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: Brake Line Question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:00 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Brake Line Question 800X6 tire, wheel, brake, and axle were being drug along by that little plastic brake line. It did not fail, but did put some permanent kinks and bends in it. Have been flying with it that way for the past 5 years or so with no problems. > John Hauck > MKIII/912ULS > hauck's holler, alabama Geez John, doesn't it make it hard to take off with all that stuff dragging along??? (Sorry - heh, heh, couldn't resist.) See ya at MV AzDave Do Not Archive > > >


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    Time: 10:21:45 AM PST US
    From: DAquaNut@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Brake Line Question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com In a message dated 2/23/2006 12:09:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, pelletier@cableone.net writes: Geez John, doesn't it make it hard to take off with all that stuff dragging along??? (Sorry - heh, heh, couldn't resist.) See ya at MV I had to stop and think on that one. I sat back and had a good belly laugh on that one. I think that is one of the best friendly jabs yet. Ed Diebel DO NOT ARCHIEVE


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    Time: 11:10:33 AM PST US
    From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: LSA Repairman Certificate Limitations
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 5:51 AM Subject: Kolb-List: LSA Repairman Certificate Limitations > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net> > Unfortunately, no one has yet produced the required 120 hour (for airplanes) training course that > enables one to earn this rating. > > Thom in Buffalo > Last I heard, Rainbow Aviation in Colton Calif. was working on the 120 hr course and it is about ready to be taught. AzDave Do Not Archive > > >


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    Time: 11:19:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: best price on 503
    From: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@g-gate.net>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@g-gate.net> Larry, Buddy of mine has a low time 503 he might sell. He upgraded to a 582. Contact me if interested. -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14419#14419


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    Time: 11:20:37 AM PST US
    From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Penzoil
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com> Hi Ed, Sorry if it seemed like a debate! I've never heard of a shelf life for any oil, organic or synthetic. Ed in JXN MkII/503 Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: <DAquaNut@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:46 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Penzoil > Saw on the rotax list where it was said Penzoil 2- cycle oil goes bad in > about a year on the shelf. Any one else heard that, and is there any > truth > to it? > > > Rick, > > I dont mean to be ugly but if you read my question above you will see > you > did not answer my question. I did not mean to start an oil war. I just > am > trying to find out if it is true that Pennzoil goes bad after sitting on > a > shelf for a year or so. It seems to me if it had a shelf life it should > have a > warning on the bottle. PLEASE This is not a debate which oil is best! > > Ed Diebel > > >


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    Time: 11:47:09 AM PST US
    From: kuffel <kuffel@cyberport.net>
    Subject: Re: Brake Line Question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: kuffel <kuffel@cyberport.net> Group, <<Your nylo-seal fitting problem and Rick N's is the first time I have heard of anyone having a problem. Instructions indicate not to overtighten the fitting, so it would be easy enough to not tighten it to the properly.>> Hesitate to jump in but there might be another cause of failure at the fitting. Most of them work better with a special brass ferule inserted into the end of the plastic tube. Or a short length of brass hobby shop tubing works just as well. Just be sure to smooth the ends of the tube. Tom Kuffel Whitefish, MT Building Original FireStar


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    Time: 12:16:03 PM PST US
    From: "David Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net>
    Subject: Re: LSA Repairman Certificate Limitations
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net> I think Rainbow is in Corning, CA... DVD On 2/23/06, Dave & Eve Pelletier <pelletier@cableone.net> wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" < > pelletier@cableone.net> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 5:51 AM > Subject: Kolb-List: LSA Repairman Certificate Limitations > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net> > > > Unfortunately, no one has yet produced the required 120 hour (for > airplanes) training course that > > enables one to earn this rating. > > > > Thom in Buffalo > > > > Last I heard, Rainbow Aviation in Colton Calif. was working on the 120 hr > course and it is about ready to be taught. > > AzDave > > Do Not Archive >


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    Time: 12:50:39 PM PST US
    From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: LSA Repairman Certificate Limitations
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net> Yer Right....Sorry...Just went to their website www.rainbowaviation.com and it looks like the 120 hour course is in the process of being approved and is planned to be offered March 6th through 24th. AzDave Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: LSA Repairman Certificate Limitations > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net> > > I think Rainbow is in Corning, CA... > > DVD > > >


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    Time: 01:23:31 PM PST US
    From: N27SB@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Brake Line Question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com In a message dated 2/23/06 1:47:50 PM Central Standard Time, kuffel@cyberport.net writes: > Group, > > <<Your nylo-seal fitting problem and Rick N's is the first time I have > heard of anyone having a problem. Instructions indicate not to > overtighten the fitting, so it would be easy enough to not tighten it to > the properly.>> > > Hesitate to jump in but there might be another cause of failure at the > fitting. Most of them work better with a special brass ferule inserted > into the end of the plastic tube. Or a short length of brass hobby shop > tubing works just as well. Just be sure to smooth the ends of the tube. > > Tom Kuffel > Whitefish, MT > Building Original FireStar > > That brass ferrule is mandatory in my book. It is even available at the ACE hardware down the street. Steve


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    Time: 01:45:57 PM PST US
    From: Rick Miles <ultrastarrick@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Penzoil
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Rick Miles <ultrastarrick@yahoo.com> no problem oil should not go bad butt check it for contanimation IE ( water , dust ) it should be just as good as the day it came outa the ground Do not archive. Ed Chmielewski <edchmiel@mindspring.com> wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" Hi Ed, Sorry if it seemed like a debate! I've never heard of a shelf life for any oil, organic or synthetic. Ed in JXN MkII/503 Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:46 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Penzoil > Saw on the rotax list where it was said Penzoil 2- cycle oil goes bad in > about a year on the shelf. Any one else heard that, and is there any > truth > to it? > > > Rick, > > I dont mean to be ugly but if you read my question above you will see > you > did not answer my question. I did not mean to start an oil war. I just > am > trying to find out if it is true that Pennzoil goes bad after sitting on > a > shelf for a year or so. It seems to me if it had a shelf life it should > have a > warning on the bottle. PLEASE This is not a debate which oil is best! > > Ed Diebel > > >


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    Time: 04:15:43 PM PST US
    From: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
    Subject: E-Bay Mark III
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com> Kolb Mark III with 532 now on E-bay. Ray ---TN UltraStar do not archive ---------------------------------


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    Time: 04:56:29 PM PST US
    From: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Penzoil
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com> Ed, Rick, et. al.... Since I have had such unique success in using Pennziol Air Cooled (note caps) in the mighty 447, I feel moderately... ok, distantly and weakly, qualified to comment.... I have it on good authority..... a person who knew a person who was in the same county with a person who attended the Rotax 2-stroke seminar at Sebring a couple of months back.... That no less than Phil Lockwood, the east-coast Rotax magnate, in his 2-stroke seminar.... made remarks to the effect that Pennziol air cooled would indeed deteriorate in the plastic bottle if left in storage too long... and that "too long" could be assessed by the condition of the plastic bottle... The Gentleman is reported to have opined that if the sides of the yellow plastic bottle showed evidence of beginning to collapse inward... it was time to run that oil in your weed-whacker, but NOT your mighty Rotax... That's the way it was relayed to me the weekend after the seminar... that's all I know about it... Worth what ye paid fer it... Beauford, The Aluminum Butcher of Brandon, FL FF #076 About $43 per Rotax-flight -hour at this point by my calculations.... high point of my life... I love 'em.... Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: <DAquaNut@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:46 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Penzoil > --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com > > > In a message dated 2/23/2006 8:49:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, > ultrastarrick@yahoo.com writes: > > > I prefer to use the motorcycle race oils ( golden spectrum ) as thy do not > carbon up the cylinders as bad as the cheep 2 stroke outboard oils. > > DAquaNut@aol.com wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com > > Saw on the rotax list where it was said Penzoil 2- cycle oil goes bad in > about a year on the shelf. Any one else heard that, and is there any truth > to it? > > > Rick, > > I dont mean to be ugly but if you read my question above you will see you > did not answer my question. I did not mean to start an oil war. I just am > trying to find out if it is true that Pennzoil goes bad after sitting on a > shelf for a year or so. It seems to me if it had a shelf life it should have a > warning on the bottle. PLEASE This is not a debate which oil is best! > > Ed Diebel > >


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    Time: 06:00:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brake Line Question
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > In a message dated 2/23/2006 12:09:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, > pelletier(at)cableone.net writes: > Geez John, doesn't it make it hard to take off with all that stuff dragging > along??? > > (Sorry - heh, heh, couldn't resist.) > > See ya at MV > Brother Dave: Not with a 912ULS and a 72" three blade Warp Drive prop!!! ;-) -------- John Hauck MKIII/912ULS hauck's holler, alabama Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14515#14515


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    Time: 06:12:01 PM PST US
    From: DAquaNut@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Safety rings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com Group, A while back someone on the list said that safety rings were better than safety pins ,especially on the tail feathers. OK Who is the source for the rings ? I don't seem to be able to find anyone who handles them> Ed Diebel


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    Time: 06:36:09 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Safety rings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> than | safety pins ,especially on the tail feathers. OK Who is the source for the | rings ? I don't seem to be able to find anyone who handles them> | | | Ed Diebel Hi Ed: I am fortunate. Do not have to fold. If I did have to fold my Kolb, I would still use the same system I use now, AN bolts, washers, and nyloc nuts. Probably the most vulnerable attachment is the lower tailwires on the tail post. On other than a manicured airstrip, safety pins and safety rings are at risk of becoming unfastened. A 3/16 bolt inserted from right to left, when standing behind the rudder and looking forward, with washers and a nyloc nut make me feel much more comfortable. Previously, I inserted the above bolt from left to right from habit. Had occassion to come very close to losing the nut which was unscrewed by alder bushed in my first off field landing in Alaska, 1994. From tht time on, I always insert from right to left with nut on the left. That way, the nut will be tightened as it is subjected to bushes and heavy weeds, etc. Doesn't take much longer to spin off or on the same amount of nyloc nuts as it does to fumble with safety pins and rings, in my opinion. Take care, john h


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    Time: 07:12:36 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Safety rings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Do not use a safety ring or safety pin on that lower tail wire bolt. Do what John says, use a real bolt. For the other pins, the easiest way to get a circle pin is to make your own. Go by Lowes or any hardware store, get a spring with at least 1/2" to 5/8" ID, and cut out some rings with a pair of side cutters, or best of all - a Dremel tool using a cut-off wheel. You can easily make a half dozen of them in 20 minutes. Or spend an hour doing it and give some to all your friends. They will think you are a great guy. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) PeeEss to John: Are you sure about that right to left stuff? You got me thinkin' (always scary) and I went to the garage and got a nut and bolt, and if the bolt goes in from the left, and the nut is on the right (looking from tail to nose) a wiping motion against the bottom of the nut tightens it. If the bolt comes in from the right to the left, the nut on the left end is loosened by a wiping motion on the bottom... Or am I missing something? Again? John Hauck wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > | A while back someone on the list said that safety rings were better > than > source for the > > > Hi Ed: > > I am fortunate. Do not have to fold. If I did have to fold my Kolb, > I would still use the same system I use now, AN bolts, washers, and > nyloc nuts. > > Probably the most vulnerable attachment is the lower tailwires on the > tail post. On other than a manicured airstrip, safety pins and safety > rings are at risk of becoming unfastened. A 3/16 bolt inserted from > right to left, when standing behind the rudder and looking forward, > with washers and a nyloc nut make me feel much more comfortable. > > Previously, I inserted the above bolt from left to right from habit. > Had occassion to come very close to losing the nut which was unscrewed > by alder bushed in my first off field landing in Alaska, 1994. From > tht time on, I always insert from right to left with nut on the left. > That way, the nut will be tightened as it is subjected to bushes and > heavy weeds, etc. > > Doesn't take much longer to spin off or on the same amount of nyloc > nuts as it does to fumble with safety pins and rings, in my opinion. > > Take care, > > john h > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:12:36 PM PST US
    From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Safety rings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com In a message dated 2/23/2006 9:36:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes: I always insert from right to left with nut on the left. That way, the nut will be tightened as it is subjected to bushes and heavy weeds, etc. Hi John H, I am trying to understand how the nut would be "tightened", when mounted on the left side (as standing behind the tail looking forward). If I then stand on the left side of the plane and look face in to the end of the bolt and nut, it seems as though the bushes & weeds, as they pass from front to rear, would rub against the bottom edge of the nut trying to turn it counterclockwise, which would in effect screw it off the bolt. Am I misunderstanding something here. Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive


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    Time: 07:27:36 PM PST US
    From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: Brake Line Question
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net> > Brother Dave: > > Not with a 912ULS and a 72" three blade Warp Drive prop!!! ;-) > > -------- > John Hauck > MKIII/912ULS > hauck's holler, alabama Awright, awright, don't rub it in --- Y'know I'd do anything ('cept spend money) for that combo. AzDave > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14515#14515 > > >


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    Time: 07:45:24 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Safety rings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Brother Richard P: I was backassward. Put the bolt in from left to right. As the nut on the bolt, not the nut on the control stick (that's me) zips through whatever it is zipping through, it will tighten rather than loosen. Hope I didn't screw folks up too badly with the first iteration. hehehe john hMKIII/912ULS


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    Time: 07:45:57 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Safety rings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> | Bill Varnes Brother Bill V: You are absolutely correct. Checking to see if you all are awake out there. ;-) john h hauck's holler, alabama


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    Time: 07:58:47 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Safety rings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Hey, that's a good story - I would stick with it... :-! Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) John Hauck wrote: > You are absolutely correct. Checking to see if you all are awake out > there. ;-) > > john h > hauck's holler, alabama > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:03:12 PM PST US
    From: "Ron" <captainron1@cox.net>
    Subject: Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ron" <captainron1@cox.net> Matt why don't you consider a Suzuki engine list. It seems to be catching on as a conversion motor. In fact I am converting one for use on My Kolb. CaptainRon Arizona =================== -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:52 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics! --> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Listers, Its my pleasure to announce the addition of six new Email List / Forums to the aviation line up at Matronics! These new lists support all the usual features you've come to know and love from the Matronics Email List including full integration with the All New Web BBS Forums Site!! The new Lists include: LycomingEngines-List Textron/Lycoming Engines RotaxEngines-List Rotax Engine for Aircraft M14PEngines-List Vendenyev M14P Radial Engine MurphyMoose-List Murphy Moose Aircraft Allegro-List Allegro 2000, a Czech-built, Rotax-powered Aircraft Falco-List Sequoia Aircraft's Falco Experimental To sign up for any or all of the new Lists, surf over to the Matronics Email List Subscription Form and follow the instructions: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Don't forget to check out the All New Web BBS Forum now available along with all of the usual message and archive viewing tools at the Matronics Email Lists site. Surf over to the following URL for information on the BBS Forum: http://forums.matronics.com Enjoy the new Lists! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft


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    Time: 08:58:34 PM PST US
    From: "Ron" <captainron1@cox.net>
    Subject: Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY....
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ron" <captainron1@cox.net> Damn hard trying to do it with a lap top touch pad. Ron Do not archive =================== -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pat ladd Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> Hi All, I hope this doesn`t break the rules of the list but I thought some of you hot shot pilots might like a try at this. My best so far is 11.025 secs Good luck Pat ----- Original Message ----- From:, February 01, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: FW: COOL GAME TO PLAY.... You are the pilot, how long can you go with this? I'm good for about 8 secs. Jerry Very difficult at first. However, all you coordinated folks should master this game in short order! The object of the game is to move the red block around without getting hit by the blue blocks or touching the black walls. If you can go longer than 18 seconds you are phenomenal It's been said that the US Air Force uses this for fighter pilots. They are expected to go for at least 2 minutes. Give it a try!! http://tinyurl.com/56t9u


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    Time: 10:16:43 PM PST US
    From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Safety rings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net> ----- Original Message ----- : Safety rings > --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com > > Group, > > A while back someone on the list said that safety rings were better than > safety pins ,especially on the tail feathers. OK Who is the source for > the > rings ? I don't seem to be able to find anyone who handles them> > > > Ed Diebel > > Ed, I got my last bunch from McMaster Carr company, they have an online catalog that should have the rings. If you can't locate em let me know. Denny Rowe


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    Time: 10:28:38 PM PST US
    From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Safety Rings
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net> Anyone interested, Just checked out McMaster-Carrs web sight for Safety Rings. They call them "Cotter rings" so that is what you want to search for on their sight. They sell them Dirt cheap and have them in Steel and Stainless steel and two differant finishes. Also have several differant sizes. If you have never ordered from these fine folks you are in for a treat, they are the fastest, best service in the world and the shipping is very reasonable. Check their sight for just about anything you might want to buy, they probably have it. Denny Rowe




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