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1. 03:26 AM - Re: Re: 1985 Firestar (jerb)
2. 04:59 AM - Re: 254 lbs. (pat ladd)
3. 05:43 AM - Re: Re: 1985 Firestar (Denny Rowe)
4. 09:41 AM - Airspeed Indicators (John Williamson)
5. 10:28 AM - Fw: Re: New Owner - 5 rib vs 7 rib (jerb)
6. 10:28 AM - Re: Re: 1985 Firestar (Mike Marsh)
7. 10:28 AM - Flying Naked (Jack B. Hart)
8. 10:28 AM - Re: Re: 1985 Firestar (David Lehman)
9. 10:28 AM - Re: Re: 1985 Firestar (WillUribe@aol.com)
10. 10:28 AM - tires (boyd)
11. 12:00 PM - Re: Re: 1985 Firestar (Ed Chmielewski)
12. 12:31 PM - Re: Seafoam o%O%o%O%o%O%o%O%o%O%o%O%o (Ralph)
13. 12:39 PM - Re: tires (Chris Mallory)
14. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: 1985 Firestar (John Murr)
15. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: 1985 Firestar (Richard Pike)
16. 01:38 PM - Re: Flying Naked (N27SB@AOL.COM)
17. 02:39 PM - Re: 1985 Firestar (Ralph Hoover)
18. 02:43 PM - Fw: Re: New Owner - 5 rib vs 7 rib (Ralph Hoover)
19. 04:14 PM - Re: Flying Naked (Terry Frantz)
20. 04:33 PM - Re: Flying Naked (J carter)
21. 05:23 PM - Re: Flying Naked (Mike Schnabel)
22. 05:24 PM - Re: 1985 Firestar (Mike Marsh)
23. 06:25 PM - Re: Re: 1985 Firestar (David Lehman)
24. 06:28 PM - Re: English U-Joint (Carlos)
25. 06:54 PM - Re: 1985 Firestar (JetPilot)
26. 07:58 PM - available Mark III's (Larry Cottrell)
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Subject: | Re: 1985 Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Besides the difference being used as 1 place versus 2 place, did the
5 rib versus 7 rib have anything to due with ability of using a 503
engine versus smaller HP engine. Maybe Dennis is around he can
comment on this. I hadn't heard of any issues of accidents in the past.
jerb
At 10:22 PM 2/26/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>
>I know of one of those old firestars having a wing leading edge fail
>due to those ribs breaking which resulted in a
>crash [Shocked] The plane I am talking about had LOTS of hours
>and hard use on it. But Kolb put more ribs in the new firestars for
>a reason...
>
>If it were my plane, I would add more ribs... A couple of pounds to
>have a stronger wing is a bargain. If you do not put more ribs in
>that wing, you will always be wondering when you fly it :?
>
>Michael A. Bigelow
>
>--------
>NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=15245#15245
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
it weighed 252 lbs Legal! After adding bigger wheels and brakes, 2
strobes and a ballistic chute It now weighs 286 lbs.>>
Hi,
I would think that if you had an accident your legality with the FAA is only
the first of of your problems. If you fly illegally, that means
automatically that no insurance will pay out. They are just looking for an
excuse to hang onto the money. An argument that the changes you made
increased the safety factor will cut no ice whatsoever. If the insurers are
hep to the regulations THEY will insist on weighing, never mind the FAA.
The trouble is that all planes steadily increase in weight. It is some sort
of disease that infests hangars.
Cheers
Pat
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: 1985 Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 1985 Firestar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> Besides the difference being used as 1 place versus 2 place, did the
> 5 rib versus 7 rib have anything to due with ability of using a 503
> engine versus smaller HP engine. Maybe Dennis is around he can
> comment on this. I hadn't heard of any issues of accidents in the past.
> jerb
>
Guys,
The 5 rib wing is fine if used with the Rotax 447 or smaller engines, the 7
rib wing is for the 503 engine.
There should be plenty more info in the archives on this but if your plane
has a 447 or smaller engine, the 5 rib wing will be fine.
Denny Rowe
do not archive
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Subject: | Airspeed Indicators |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
I have two excess airspeed indicators for sale.
If you might need one, check my info link at:
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1/airspeed_indicators.htm
do not archive
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=17367#17367
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Subject: | Re: New Owner - 5 rib vs 7 rib |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Went back and found this message and comments made by Dennis. This
might add some light to the rib topic.
jerb
>From: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@epix.net>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Owner
>Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 21:57:23 -0400
>Sender: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>X-Airmail-Delivered: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:53:46 -0500 (CDT)
>X-Airmail-Spooled: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:53:34 -0500 (CDT)
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@epix.net>
>
>Ken and Kolbers,
>
>Sorry, but I beg to differ; some things can be stretched - but one can
>stretch too far.
>
>Original FS: 5 ribs approx 550 lb. GW ( I forget the exact figure) Ralph
>says 535 ... sounds about rights.
>FireFly: 5 ribs 500 lb. GW (lighter spar attach fittings)
>TwinStar: 7 ribs 725 lbs. GW
>TwinStar Mark-II: 7 ribs 750 lb. GW (longer H-section)
>FireStar-II: 7 ribs 750 lb. GW
>Mark-III: 9 ribs 1000 lb GW.
>
>As you can see there is a very strong correlation between # of ribs and GW
>and there is a very good reason for this: higher GW requires more ribs. A
>"bit over 700 lbs" .... seems like 7 ribs would be required.
>
>Dennis
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ken Korenek" <ken-foi@attbi.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Owner
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken Korenek <ken-foi@attbi.com>
> >
> > ul15rhb@juno.com wrote:
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
> > >
> > > ---------- Ken Korenek <ken-foi@attbi.com> writes:
> > >
> > > From: Ken Korenek <ken-foi@attbi.com>
> > > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Kolb-List: New Owner
> > > Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:49:45 -0500
> > >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken Korenek <ken-foi@attbi.com>
> > >
> > > Gentlemen,
> > >
> > > I'm a new Kolb owner. I just bought a FireStar I with a 503, 5
>rib
> > > wings and no seat in the back. I bought it in West Virginia and
>trailered
> > > it home. The plane was crashed in 1999 and rebuilt by Lite Speed
> > > Aviation. I checked with both Kolb and Lite Speed to see if a FireStar
>I
> > > loading was OK on a 5 rib wing with a 250 pound pilot, 10 gallons of
>fuel and
> > > a 503. That puts gross weight at just a bit over 700 pounds. They
>both
> > > said that it was OK, just never carry a passenger. I did a detailed
>weight
> > > and balance analysis and I'm in the middle of the envelope.
> > > The Rookie
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > Ken, are you sure this Firestar has a 5-rib wing? If it does, it may be
>an Original Firestar that has a gross weight of 535 lbs. What year is it?
>Does it have two aileron bell cranks with horizontal push pull tubes. Easier
>yet, does it have full-span ailerons?
> > >
> > > Ralph Burlingame
> > > Original Firestar
> > > 15 years flying it
> > >
> >
> > Mr. Burlingame,
> >
> > Yes, it has only 5 ribs. I counted them several times in disbelief.
>When I did my homework before buying the plane, I decided that I would not
>buy it with only 5 ribs. When I asked about the number of ribs, I was told
>it had 7 ribs. The pictures I saw
> > were not clear. I drove all the way from Texas to Kentucky and the first
>thing I saw was 5 ribs. Surprise! That's when I got on the phone to Kolb
>and Light Speed Aviation. I would have gladly returned to Texas with no
>plane if my concerns could not be
> > answered to my satisfaction.
> >
> >
> > I just got off the phone with Linda at Kolb and records show the date
>of the sale of the first kit to a Jerry Ray in Greensboro, NC is 11/19/1993
>and has a airframe serial number of FS438. It does have the longer
>ailerons, but no horizontal push-pull tubes or
> > the two bellcranks you mentioned. I had big questions about structural
>integrity with the larger engine and my weight. I asked Ray Brown at Kolb,
>and showed him the plane. He told me about the "H" sections in the wing
>spar and the 3/8 bolt holding on the strut
> > attach fitting. I also talked with Brian Milburn and Danny Mullins
>before I bought it to make sure it was capable of handling the 503, 10
>gallons of fuel and my weight. The general consenus was that the increased
>engine size and my weight is acceptable- just
> > keep it under 800 pounds gross.
> >
> > This is exactly the kind of dialog I need- thanks.
> >
> > You have any pictures of your early bird? I'd love to see them.
>Send them to my e-mail address- ken-foi@attbi.com Send as many as you
>want- I've got cable access and down loads pretty fast.
> >
> > --
> > *********************
> > Ken W. Korenek
> >
> > Custom Utilities, LLC
> > www.customutilitiesllc.com
> > Sales@CustomUtilitiesLLC.com
> >
> > PO Box 173685
> > Arlington, Texas
> > 76003-3685
> >
> > 817-572-6832 voice
> > 817-572-6842 fax
> > 817-657-6500 cell
> > 817-483-8054 home
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: 1985 Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Marsh <nellypup_29@yahoo.com>
Thanks to you all, I will let you know when I have her ready to fly and psot a
few pics. I will check the archives too.
Mike
Denny Rowe <rowedl@highstream.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe"
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerb"
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 1985 Firestar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb
>
> Besides the difference being used as 1 place versus 2 place, did the
> 5 rib versus 7 rib have anything to due with ability of using a 503
> engine versus smaller HP engine. Maybe Dennis is around he can
> comment on this. I hadn't heard of any issues of accidents in the past.
> jerb
>
Guys,
The 5 rib wing is fine if used with the Rotax 447 or smaller engines, the 7
rib wing is for the 503 engine.
There should be plenty more info in the archives on this but if your plane
has a 447 or smaller engine, the 5 rib wing will be fine.
Denny Rowe
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
At 12:44 PM 2/27/06 -0000, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>the first of of your problems. If you fly illegally, that means
>automatically that no insurance will pay out. They are just looking for an
>excuse to hang onto the money. An argument that the changes you made
>increased the safety factor will cut no ice whatsoever. If the insurers are
>hep to the regulations THEY will insist on weighing, never mind the FAA.
Pat,
I have not been able to find anyone who will insure a legal ultralight
vehicle. Has anyone been able to get insurance on an FireFly that does not
have an N number and the pilot does not hold a certificate?
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Subject: | Re: 1985 Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net>
Hmmm...
There's two of us locally with 5 ribs/503 and both planes have flown lots of
hours... One is heavy with a in-flight adjustable and the other is lighter
and has a belt drive... Guess I better look at the wing leading edges
closer...
How many documented 5 rib/503 wings failures have there been?...
DVD
On 2/27/06, Denny Rowe <rowedl@highstream.net> wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 6:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 1985 Firestar
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
> >
> > Besides the difference being used as 1 place versus 2 place, did the
> > 5 rib versus 7 rib have anything to due with ability of using a 503
> > engine versus smaller HP engine. Maybe Dennis is around he can
> > comment on this. I hadn't heard of any issues of accidents in the past.
> > jerb
> >
>
> Guys,
> The 5 rib wing is fine if used with the Rotax 447 or smaller engines, the
> 7
> rib wing is for the 503 engine.
> There should be plenty more info in the archives on this but if your plane
> has a 447 or smaller engine, the 5 rib wing will be fine.
> Denny Rowe
> do not archive
>
> do not archive
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Subject: | Re: 1985 Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
Greetings,
The Reason Kolb added more ribs to the FireStar was when they went with the
Rotax 503 and to carry a passenger. The reason the leading edge failed on a
FireStar was due to over stressing the wings beyond the designed limitations.
You can rip the wings off a Boeing 747 if you over stress them beyond the
designed limitations.
Kolb gave me the option to build a light 5 rib FireStar or a heavier 7 rib
FireStar II.
Regards,
Will Uribe
FireStar II N4GU
El Paso, TX
_http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/_ (http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JetPilot
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:22 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 1985 Firestar
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
I know of one of those old firestars having a wing leading edge fail due to
those ribs breaking which resulted in a crash [Shocked] The plane I am
talking about had LOTS of hours and hard use on it. But Kolb put more ribs in
the new firestars for a reason...
If it were my plane, I would add more ribs... A couple of pounds to have a
stronger wing is a bargain. If you do not put more ribs in that wing, you
will always be wondering when you fly it :?
Michael A. Bigelow
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Just what is the dimensional difference between the 15-600 X 6 and the 600 X
6?
What are the pro's and con's of each, assuming both sizes are real
"aircraft" tires?
The 600 x 6 tires are about 3 inches taller
Boyd
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Subject: | Re: 1985 Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Hi Mike,
I hadn't heard of this structural failure. Please forward details.
There was some discussion (about a year ago IIRC) on converting to the 7-rib
wing, but I thought it was for greater load-carrying.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 11:22 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 1985 Firestar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>
> I know of one of those old firestars having a wing leading edge fail due
> to those ribs breaking which resulted in a crash [Shocked] The plane I
> am talking about had LOTS of hours and hard use on it. But Kolb put more
> ribs in the new firestars for a reason...
>
> If it were my plane, I would add more ribs... A couple of pounds to have
> a stronger wing is a bargain. If you do not put more ribs in that wing,
> you will always be wondering when you fly it :?
>
> Michael A. Bigelow
>
> --------
> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have
> !!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=15245#15245
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Seafoam o%O%o%O%o%O%o%O%o%O%o%O%o |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
It's what keeps my 447 running carbon free with the help of synthetic oil. Good
stuff.
I give it the Seafoam treatment every 25 hours or so.
Ralph
Original Firestar
19 years flying it
-- "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Ok, after seeing this lure dangled in front of me every so often im going to bite
[Twisted Evil] What is seafoam and why do people talk about it here ?
From what I can tell there was a big discussion on it years ago, but I was
not around for that. So if anyone can fill me in on seafoam it would satisfy
my curiosity.
JettPilot
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Boyd,
Thanks for the info.
Chris Mallory
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:13 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: tires
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
>
> Just what is the dimensional difference between the 15-600 X 6 and the 600
> X
>
> 6?
>
> What are the pro's and con's of each, assuming both sizes are real
> "aircraft" tires?
>
> The 600 x 6 tires are about 3 inches taller
>
> Boyd
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: 1985 Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Murr" <jdm@wideworld.net>
I have an original Firestar with a 503 and a 5 rib wing. Should I be
concerned? Is it the extra weight or the extra horsepower or both?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 1985 Firestar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 6:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 1985 Firestar
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>>
>> Besides the difference being used as 1 place versus 2 place, did the
>> 5 rib versus 7 rib have anything to due with ability of using a 503
>> engine versus smaller HP engine. Maybe Dennis is around he can
>> comment on this. I hadn't heard of any issues of accidents in the past.
>> jerb
>>
>
> Guys,
> The 5 rib wing is fine if used with the Rotax 447 or smaller engines, the
> 7
> rib wing is for the 503 engine.
> There should be plenty more info in the archives on this but if your plane
> has a 447 or smaller engine, the 5 rib wing will be fine.
> Denny Rowe
> do not archive
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: 1985 Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
How many do you need?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
David Lehman wrote:
> <snip>
> How many documented 5 rib/503 wings failures have there been?...
>
> DVD
>
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Subject: | Re: Flying Naked |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 2/27/06 12:29:37 PM Central Standard Time,
jbhart@onlyinternet.net writes:
> I have not been able to find anyone who will insure a legal ultralight
> vehicle. Has anyone been able to get insurance on a FireFly that does not
> have an N number and the pilot does not hold a certificate?
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
>
Hi Jack, ( Boy do you got to be careful around the Airlines)
USUA has a good program. I signed up last year. You have to do a few things:
1 Get your UL pilot license from an approved UL association.
2 register your UL with an approved organization. Mine is with EAA. If you
are a member they do it for free. My Firefly is E016SB.
3 You have to be a member of USUA
That''s it. The agent is First Flight Insurance Group. Call Dawne 252 261
0292
or check the USUA website.
Steve B
Firefly #007
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Subject: | Re: 1985 Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com>
Well, I should feel pretty good as my 1990 Kolb Firestar has both a 503 pusher
and the 7 rib wings.
Lota safety here in Ohio Ralph
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=18163#18163
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: Re: New Owner - 5 rib vs 7 rib |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@netzero.com>
I just replied to the five rib verses seven rib thread a few minuites ago and discovered
that I failed to state that my 503 powered, 7 rib'ed firstar is a single
passenger plane. I didn't realize however that it added that much additional
weight. I have to locate two more mechanical scales so tha I can weigh and
find C.G. anyway. This gives me that much more reason.
Ralph of Ohio
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Subject: | Re: Flying Naked |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Jack B. Hart wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
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>At 12:44 PM 2/27/06 -0000, you wrote:
>
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>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
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>>the first of of your problems. If you fly illegally, that means
>>automatically that no insurance will pay out. They are just looking for an
>>excuse to hang onto the money. An argument that the changes you made
>>increased the safety factor will cut no ice whatsoever. If the insurers are
>>hep to the regulations THEY will insist on weighing, never mind the FAA.
>>
>>
>
>Pat,
>
>I have not been able to find anyone who will insure a legal ultralight
>vehicle. Has anyone been able to get insurance on an FireFly that does not
>have an N number and the pilot does not hold a certificate?
>
>Jack B. Hart FF004
>Winchester, IN
>
>
>
Jack,
Sure you can as long as your willing to jump through enough hoops, bow
to the appropriate God's and pay the required fee. I guess that is what
separates the Part 103 flyers from the rest of the crowd, the need to be
free of all the regulations. The Wright Bros. would never have been
able to leave the ground if trying to do what they did with today's
regulations. Think they were insured?!!!!!!
Every sport I know of has slowly become regulated to death for the
convenience of those who are less daring! I also allows the formation
of exclusive clubs where only those approved or have enough money are
allowed to benefit.
Terry - FireFly #95
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Subject: | Re: Flying Naked |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "J carter" <cartejy@mtn-state.com>
Jack, re insurance..check the USUA web site, they have insurance with some
conditions, My KXP is being put into the Lite Sport Exp cat about ready for
transition. Jay Carter PV_SEL & GLDR KXP &503,take care.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 7:37 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Flying Naked
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
>
> At 12:44 PM 2/27/06 -0000, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> >the first of of your problems. If you fly illegally, that means
> >automatically that no insurance will pay out. They are just looking for
an
> >excuse to hang onto the money. An argument that the changes you made
> >increased the safety factor will cut no ice whatsoever. If the insurers
are
> >hep to the regulations THEY will insist on weighing, never mind the FAA.
>
> Pat,
>
> I have not been able to find anyone who will insure a legal ultralight
> vehicle. Has anyone been able to get insurance on an FireFly that does
not
> have an N number and the pilot does not hold a certificate?
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Flying Naked |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com>
Terry,
Very well said. Not just this quote, but all the rest of your commentary...
Mike S
Manchester TN
FireStar 2, 503
do not archive
Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net> wrote:
The Wright Bros. would never have been able to leave the ground if trying to
do what they did with today's regulations. Think they were insured?!
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Subject: | Re: 1985 Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Marsh <nellypup_29@yahoo.com>
I have received a lot of great responses to my
question and certainly appreciate a lot of your
thought out answers. I am a 160# pilot and the
firestar that I bought came with a completely rebuilt
377 so that is what i will fly with for now. I guess
that puts me well under the GW of 535/550 #. So I can
leave as is and fly it or add the extra ribs which
will cost little, take a little extra work and not
hurt a darn thing.
One unfortunate part of the 377 engine is that it is
not recommended to put an electric start on this older
serial numbered model Rotax. I don't mind pull
starting when getting ready to take of but in air
restarts could be a little hairy. Any thoughts on
this?
Keep your airspeed up and your yaw string strait.
You'll never have a problem
Thanks to all
Mike
Do not Archive
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Subject: | Re: 1985 Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net>
Well, I'd like to know about all of them...
DVD
On 2/27/06, Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
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> How many do you need?
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> David Lehman wrote:
> > <snip>
> > How many documented 5 rib/503 wings failures have there been?...
> >
> > DVD
> >
>
> do not archive
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Subject: | Re: English U-Joint |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Carlos" <grageda@innw.net>
Hi Robert,
I'm glad I could help. Thats what this mail list is about.
Good Luck
Carlos Grageda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: English U-Joint
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
> Carlos --
>
> Just wanted to let you know that I installed the English u-joint today,
> and
> it made a considerable difference! Hoo-ray! Based on your photos, I
> started with 3 washers on the bottom, 2 on the top, and that nearly was
> perfect. The plane still needs a bit of trim, so I'm thinking about
> making
> it 4-and-1, just to see what it does. I'll be flying left-seat solo about
> 99% of the time, so I might as well make it neutral for that 99%.
>
> Thanks for your help and encouragement!
>
> -- Robert
>
> On 2/18/06, Carlos <grageda@innw.net> wrote:
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>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Carlos" <grageda@innw.net>
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>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> I finally got some pictures of the English U-Joints installed on my Kolb.
>>
>> I hope they help answer your questions.
>>
>> Carlos Grageda
>> Firestar Driver
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 5:04 PM
>> Subject: Kolb-List: English U-Joint
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>> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>> >
>> > If anyone out there has installed the "English" u-joint used to adjust
>> > washout, could you please send me a photo of the installed joint. I
>> > got
>> > mine in, but it'd be nice to see what it looks like on a successful
>> > installation.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > -- Robert
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Subject: | Re: 1985 Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
I only know of only one failure. It was a high time wing with hard use... Would
I fly a firestar with only 5 ribs in it, sure I would, kolbs are very strong
and it would most likely never be a problem. I would not rip apart a wing
just to add more ribs.
If I had the wing uncovered though, and I could add some more ribs while it was
open, I MOST DEFINATELY would while it was easy to do. Being that we know where
the weakest spot of the wing is, and it is and easy fix that just adds a
couple more pounds, one would be foolish not to fix the weak spot.
Bottom line is , sooner or later if you fly alot you will eventually get into severe
turbulance, or have to pull out of of a dive etc. We try to stay in the
design limits of the plane, but schit happens [Shocked] ... I want my plane
as strong as possible.
I have reinforced the ribs in my MK-III. It only adds a couple pounds to the
weight of the plane. Years from now when I have flown my Kolb for many hours
in all sorts of turbulance and conditions, I will not have to worry about my
ribs starting to become fatigued.
Michael A. Bigelow
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
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Subject: | available Mark III's |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Anyone out there, preferably in the NW wanting to part with their Mark III. I have
a friend that is looking for one.
Larry, Oregon
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