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1. 01:36 AM - Re: Leading edge failure (Dave Bigelow)
2. 01:55 AM - Re: Kolb Twin (Dave Bigelow)
3. 04:09 AM - Bill Locks flight farm (Airgriff2@aol.com)
4. 06:25 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Twin (John Hauck)
5. 07:02 AM - Re: Bill Locks flight farm (John Hauck)
6. 07:20 AM - Re: Fw: HELLO - Dolly take-off... (Ed Chmielewski)
7. 08:32 AM - Re: Bill Locks flight farm (ray anderson)
8. 11:45 AM - Address Change Alert (Rallynq@aol.com)
9. 04:22 PM - BMW R100 on Kolbs (Jason Omelchuck)
10. 05:31 PM - Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
11. 05:53 PM - VIDEO FIRESTAR II (Bill Vincent)
12. 05:54 PM - Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs (John Hauck)
13. 06:02 PM - Re: VIDEO FIRESTAR II (JetPilot)
14. 06:29 PM - Re: VIDEO FIRESTAR II (John Hauck)
15. 08:04 PM - Re: Engine Question For Mr. Honda (Don Gherardini) (Don G)
16. 09:43 PM - Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs (Ed Chmielewski)
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| Subject: | Re: Leading edge failure |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
Guess you didn't read my post carefully. The fiberglass is underneath the fabric.
Also, I didn't lay up the fiberglass - it is commercially laid up material.
The fabric is attached as per the plans. One piece on top, and one piece
on the bottom from the LE to the TE over the full length of the wing. Instead
of rib stitching, the standard Kolb riveting to the ribs is used.
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
There is a crop duster (forget the name) that has a similar setup in a tractor
configuration - it was successful. The props rotate in the same direction, but
are moving in opposite directions across the overlap area. I made the mounts
quite beefy. The engines are 17 inches off the center line of the aircraft,
so the twisting moment during single engine operation should not be too high.
Each engine should produce about 180 lb of thrust at sea level.
The plan is to do static full power runup in all engine configurations with video
of the mount areas before test flying. Won't know for sure until I try it
out. That's a big part of the challenge (and fun) of this sport. The airframe
is fully tuned out with about 50 hours of time with a 503 pushing it. I will
have to do another weight and balance before flying it with the twins.
The biggest suspected potential problem is vibration. I've used slightly different
spacing between the mounts on each engine to help prevent harmonics, but
I'm pretty sure there will be an RPM range that will need to be avoided. Time
will tell!
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| Subject: | Bill Locks flight farm |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
>
> > Gene writes
> I saw that nice Firestar of yours at Bill Lock's Flight Farm when
> you were in route to Oshkosh. I dont remember if I met you in
> person there or not but I remember it as being an excellent fly-in.
> Bert Howland was there with his two little planes and I forgot the
> guys name with his Monarch flying wing glider, which Bill Lock towed
> to altitude with his 582-powered Terratorn.
>
Hi Gene and gang, I was also at the "flight farm" in Horseheads NY back
then. I came with my Paraplane (powered parachute) and flew the beautiful
country there. I saw John Hauck doing his loops and hammerheads in his firestar
but
thought of him as show performer, of somekind, that one was not supposed to
approach or bother, so I also did'nt get to meet him either. I would see him
early in the morning wiping down his plane. 9 years later I bought my MK3, took
3 years to build and I have been flying for 10 years now.
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
configurations with video of the mount areas before test flying.
| Dave Bigelow
Dave:
A friend of mine, during testing of his Suzuki powered 3/4 scale
Jenny, used a strobe light at night on the prop. Amazing what the
strobe uncovered. At certain rpm the prop blades were dancing in all
directions and configurations. This may proved to be a critical
element of your test program. I don't know how he had the strobe
configured, but could find out if you are interested.
john h
MKIII
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| Subject: | Re: Bill Locks flight farm |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
I saw John Hauck doing his loops and hammerheads in his firestar but
| thought of him as show performer, of somekind, that one was not
supposed to
| approach or bother, so I also did'nt get to meet him either. I would
see him
| early in the morning wiping down his plane.
| Bob Griffin
Bob:
What you saw was a poor boy from Alabama trying to earn gas money. I
talked Bill Lock into furnishing me with gas and oil in return for
flying and drawing a crowd. It worked for two years.
When is the last time you saw an air show performer sleeping on the
ground in a body bag?
Those were the good old days.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: HELLO - Dolly take-off... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Hi Larry,
Great video. Looked like he nearly overtook the tow vehicle though!
(Now a non-Kolb story)
I saw something similar in 1976, one of the funniest aviation events
I've ever witnessed. One of my instructors did a 'skid' takeoff with a
Maule on floats on a 2,400 grass runway. The location was Napoleon, MI
(3NP) and was at that time the home of Maule Aircraft (prior to their move
to Moultrie, GA). The skid was 2 sheets of plywood separated by some wood
stringers, towed by Ray Maule behind his huge Olds Toronado. Pilot gets in
the plane, which is on the plywood, and the wood is connected to the Olds by
150' or so of ropes. After warm-up, pilot gives the signal and away they
go. Just past midfield, the Maule throttle was opened wide. This was where
things got interesting. The Maule, great STOL plane that it is, claws its
way upward - with the plywood still underneath the floats! (The
low-pressure area underneath was holding the wood in place.) Pilot knew
this would happen, and banked sharply right in a peel-off. The plywood, now
free, spirals toward poor Ray in the Olds like some demented wooden kite.
He's running out of runway, but keeps his foot down. After about 3 big
loops, the wood crashes onto the sod with amazing force. We are all on the
ground, howling at the sight. Went out with a trailer and some bags to
clean up, but there was little more than big toothpicks left! They used the
same procedure after that. Incidentally, the pilot was Brian VanWagnen, now
an American Airlines captain, who still restores small planes and lives near
the airport. He was teaching Charlie Hillard in multiengine seaplanes
(Grumman Mallards) just before he was lost in the Sea Fury. Quite a
character, in a good way.
Ed in JXN
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:08 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: HELLO - Dolly take-off...
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
>
> Here is a email that I received from one of my friends and I think it is
> worth seeing, especially you float plane guys.
>
> Larry, Oregon
>
>
> Subject: Dolly take-off... You have seen thousands of float planes come
> and go...but I'll bet you haven't seen one take off like this.
(Snip)
>
> http://www.hillair.com/images/Dolleytakeoffweb3.wmv
>
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| Subject: | Re: Bill Locks flight farm |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
John,
Been there and done that. You're right, those were the good old days.
I paid my dues before WW2. Was barnstorming with a friend with a Tri Motor
Ford. I was doing the parachute jumping for "a collection" and what we charged
for the "long high ride" when we hauled passengers on the jump. Modern FAA
would turn purple if someone did that today.
Slept on the floor of the Ford. Didn't have a sleeping bag, just a couple of
blankets. Yes, those were the good old days. sigh-sigh.
do not archive
John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
I saw John Hauck doing his loops and hammerheads in his firestar but
| thought of him as show performer, of somekind, that one was not
supposed to
| approach or bother, so I also did'nt get to meet him either. I would
see him
| early in the morning wiping down his plane.
| Bob Griffin
Bob:
What you saw was a poor boy from Alabama trying to earn gas money. I
talked Bill Lock into furnishing me with gas and oil in return for
flying and drawing a crowd. It worked for two years.
When is the last time you saw an air show performer sleeping on the
ground in a body bag?
Those were the good old days.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Address Change Alert |
CC: aarpnews@news.aarp.org
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Rallynq@aol.com
Please note my new email address:
rallynq@netzero.net
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| Subject: | BMW R100 on Kolbs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com>
Hello all,
There are at least 4 of us with BMW R100s on Kolbs. Hans VanAlphen has one
on an X-tra and must have over 150 hours by now, Jim Gerkin has one on his
MKIII and is flying, Tim Warwick has one on his MKIII and is flying, and I
have a MKIII with one which will fly in a couple of months. You don't hear
much from me because mine is not flying yet. Both Hans and Jim have posted
results that can be found in the archives. Us alternate engine'ers are a
little shy about posting on the list because it always seems to start a
discussion like seafoam, leading edge reinforcement and 2 stroke
reliability. I must have thin skin, because it seems like it would be hard
to walk away feeling good about what you shared and peoples response to it.
Jason
MKIII
BMW R100
Will fly this summer
Portland, OR
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| Subject: | Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <neilsenrmf@comcast.net>
Jason
It's great to hear from you. Yes there is usually allot of comments on
alternative engines because those that have spent so much on their 912s just
can't stand to hear that they spent too much.
We need alternative engines for our Kolb's. Rotax has had a lock on aircraft
engines for too long and make us (some of us) pay way too much. They do have
a good product at least in their 4 stroke engines. I have no doubt that with
a bit of refinement some other engine could be as good for a bunch less
money.
Please tell us about your engines. I know there are GEOs, BMWs. other VWs
and maybe others out there that we don't hear about. Yes there are 912 fans
that always jump in and tell us about the zillion hours they have on their
engines. We know how good your engines are. That's not the point. We want
to hear from those people that are developing other engines....... Those of
that don't have that kind of money or choose not to spend that kind of money
on their airplanes need to hear from you.
I will get off my soap box now.......
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com>
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:34 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: BMW R100 on Kolbs
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com>
>
> Hello all,
>
> There are at least 4 of us with BMW R100s on Kolbs. Hans VanAlphen has
> one
> on an X-tra and must have over 150 hours by now, Jim Gerkin has one on his
> MKIII and is flying, Tim Warwick has one on his MKIII and is flying, and I
> have a MKIII with one which will fly in a couple of months. You don't
> hear
> much from me because mine is not flying yet. Both Hans and Jim have
> posted
> results that can be found in the archives. Us alternate engine'ers are a
> little shy about posting on the list because it always seems to start a
> discussion like seafoam, leading edge reinforcement and 2 stroke
> reliability. I must have thin skin, because it seems like it would be
> hard
> to walk away feeling good about what you shared and peoples response to
> it.
>
> Jason
> MKIII
> BMW R100
> Will fly this summer
> Portland, OR
>
>
>
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| Subject: | VIDEO FIRESTAR II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Hi Gang,
First, I'd like to thank Matt Dralle for all his help.
Someone had approached me and said they were thinking about buying a Kolb but decided
against it because it was a taildragger.
So, I am sending this one minute video of me flying my Firestar II to show how
responsive and stable this plane is and that it being a taildragger is not really
an issue. Unlike other taildraggers I have flown, I never had a ground loop
with my Firestar II, I can easily keep it up on one wheel up to 1800 feet on
my grass runway. Keeping the right wheel down is much easier because of the "P"
factor, occasionally my wing tips touch the grass. Because it is a taildragger,
it is more user friendly for snow skis and it has the added bonus of having
a tail wheel for a brake.
I was only able to produce sound towards the end of the video.
I had a hard time changing it from an analog signal to a digital signal.
Again, anyone not thinking about purchasing a Kolb aircraft because it is a taildragger
should reconsider...it is an extremely responsive and fun aircraft to
handle on the ground and in the air.
Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Us alternate engine'ers are a
| little shy about posting on the list because it always seems to
start a
| discussion like seafoam, leading edge reinforcement and 2 stroke
| reliability. I must have thin skin, because it seems like it would
be hard
| to walk away feeling good about what you shared and peoples response
to it.
|
| Jason
Jason:
I can understand how you feel. I have had my share of being told I
was full of crap. However, it is a discussion group and maybe we
should look at it that way. Everyone will never agree on anything on
this list or any other.
A lot of comments come from folks with little or zero Kolb experience.
Not easy, but consider the source and drive on.
I for one am interested in the BMW conversions. I would like to see
one of the newer engines, like the 100hp on the R1200GS on a MKIII,
Kolbra, or Xtra. The 85 hp BMW would make a nice engine also. All of
them will do better going through a gearbox, I think.
I noticed on Tim Warlicks photos that he had brought the air intakes
to the carbs 180 to face into the wind. I have found the Bing CV carb
performs better when in the normal BMW position facing to the rear.
The reason is these carbs do not like forced air because it upsets the
differences in static pressure which results in incorrect fuel
calibration by the vacuum piston. One of our Kolb people
experimented with reversing the 912 intake manifolds to reverse the
intakes on the Bing carbs. It worked much better in this
configuration.
Don't be shy. I don't think anyone has actually drawn any blood on
the Kolb List, although some of you all would love to see me bleed a
little, I am sure. ;-)
Take care,
john h
MKIII with the other kind of engine.................
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| Subject: | Re: VIDEO FIRESTAR II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Nice Flying Bill !!!
The kolb is very stable, but you obviously have some skills there :D
Nosewheels are really heavy and just add lots of drag... I would not want a nosewheel
on my Kolb even if it were offered...
Michael A. Bigelow
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NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
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| Subject: | Re: VIDEO FIRESTAR II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Bill V: Very impressive flying! Love my Kolbs.
Back copy me reference changing over from a dvd to a file I can send to the List.
I have some footage of the MKIII landing at Skelton Airstrip, Eureka Lodge,
AK, 19 July 2004, when I landed for one of those big Alaska breakfasts. Didn't
know the footage existed until Paul Petty was chatting with a pilot in AK
who mentioned he had shot video of an UL in AK. Shortly thereafter, Paul got
a copy and sent me a DVD. Thanks Paul.
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Question For Mr. Honda (Don Gherardini) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Earl,
YEs sirree, they are Chinese copies...very poor quality, and with no parts avaiable...read
that as ...if you loose the oil filler plug...you cabbot replace it
....ZERO parts. The Chinese have observed that there are alot of very short
life engines sold in the USA, and they have decided to participate in this market...life
expectancy about 200 hours. They figure there is no need for parts.
PLus, since many of the threaded holes are hand drilled, they simply cannot supply
parts because there is no interchangeability among there own engines. A
sump cover taken from one engine wont fit on another...I tried this... Let the
buyer beware!
There is a law suit Filed by American Honda against jiangsu,,,or however you spell
it that has to do with them useing Hondas name and trademarked logos.
--------
Don G
FireFly#098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Hi Jason,
I look forward to any and all alternative power posts. Let us know
how the BMW engine works, good or bad we need to know.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com>
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:34 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: BMW R100 on Kolbs
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com>
>
> Hello all,
>
> There are at least 4 of us with BMW R100s on Kolbs. Hans VanAlphen has
> one
> on an X-tra and must have over 150 hours by now, Jim Gerkin has one on his
> MKIII and is flying, Tim Warwick has one on his MKIII and is flying, and I
> have a MKIII with one which will fly in a couple of months. You don't
> hear
> much from me because mine is not flying yet. Both Hans and Jim have
> posted
> results that can be found in the archives. Us alternate engine'ers are a
> little shy about posting on the list because it always seems to start a
> discussion like seafoam, leading edge reinforcement and 2 stroke
> reliability. I must have thin skin, because it seems like it would be
> hard
> to walk away feeling good about what you shared and peoples response to
> it.
>
> Jason
> MKIII
> BMW R100
> Will fly this summer
> Portland, OR
>
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