Kolb-List Digest Archive

Sat 03/11/06


Total Messages Posted: 24



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     1. 04:16 AM - Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
     2. 05:25 AM - Re: Tailwheel steerability (Blumax008@aol.com)
     3. 05:37 AM - Re: HELLO - Dolly take-off... (Thom Riddle)
     4. 05:51 AM - Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs (Thom Riddle)
     5. 07:15 AM - Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs (Kirk Smith)
     6. 07:27 AM - Fly-in at Homer's (Terry Frantz)
     7. 07:44 AM - Re: Fly-in at Homer's (John Murr)
     8. 07:46 AM - Re: Fly-in at Homer's (John Hauck)
     9. 09:48 AM - Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs (John Jung)
    10. 10:28 AM - Re: Re: HELLO - Dolly take-off... (Richard Pike)
    11. 01:34 PM - Maulers on the Kolb list (Ed Chmielewski)
    12. 01:41 PM - Re: Re: HELLO - Dolly take-off... (Ed Chmielewski)
    13. 01:50 PM - Re: Maulers on the Kolb list (John Hauck)
    14. 02:12 PM - Re: Re: HELLO - Dolly take-off... (Richard Pike)
    15. 02:18 PM - Re: Tailwheel steerability (John Jung)
    16. 02:27 PM - Re: Tailwheel steerability (Russ Kinne)
    17. 03:55 PM - Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs (Earl & Mim Zimmerman)
    18. 04:13 PM - Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs (Eugene Zimmerman)
    19. 04:17 PM - Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs (JW Hauck)
    20. 04:34 PM - Beemer (JW Hauck)
    21. 04:50 PM - Re: Maulers on the Kolb list (Ed Chmielewski)
    22. 04:52 PM - Re: Re: HELLO - Dolly take-off... (Ed Chmielewski)
    23. 05:23 PM - Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs (robert bean)
    24. 05:58 PM - Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs (John Jung)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:16:30 AM PST US
    From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
    Subject: Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com if you guys could add pics and info about your BMW experience You would be adding very interesting info to the list I dont know about anyone elses feelings but me for one am very interested in what you have done and I would like to know more you can send it to me off list if you really dont want to post it on list I will understand Ellery do not archive


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    Time: 05:25:09 AM PST US
    From: Blumax008@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel steerability
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com Hey ya'll, My Firestar II is tough to steer using the rudder pedals & tailwheel. I use the brakes often to get it into a turn & most times have to use them throughout the turn especially when turning the tail into the wind. I've got the tailwheel chains snugged up pretty tight so that shouldn't be the problem. I've also lubricated everything in sight in the tailwheel area. Mine has that tiny 25 cent tailwheel...which I figure is probably the reason as it doesn't have the tread to grip the surface & actually turn. The tailwheel slides around a turn, on pavement or grass. Thanks for any ideas! Wild Bill Catalina


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    Time: 05:37:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: HELLO - Dolly take-off...
    From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> Ed in JXN, Good story but if this happened before BJ Maule moved to Moultrie, then it had to have happened long before 1976. I went to visit BJ to see his amazing STOL aircraft in the flesh in 1971 when I lived in Atlanta, and he was definitely in Moultrie when I saw him there. I had some PA-11 tail wheel time at the time so he took me for a spin letting me fly the left seat. Of course I babied it (180 hp model, not the big engine ones) and was amazed at its performance compared to what I'd flown before. We landed and he said get out an stand over there by the hangar door and watch this, and don't move no matter what I do. So I stood there in the open hangar door and he taxied out a ways on the ramp spun around gave it full throttle and was taking off right at me and jumped off the ground and climbed out over my head and the hangar. Yikes! Of course this can be done with a good Kolb now days but it was quite an amazing feat for a heavy GA airplane. Looks like one good flying story leads to another. Wonder what will come next. Thom in Buffalo -------- Thom in Buffalo do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21002#21002


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    Time: 05:51:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs
    From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> Jason and Rick other "off-brand" engine flyers, I have two airplanes both with 912 engines but would LOVE to see a good competitive engine at much lower price. I have the 912 engines because I'm not much of an experiementer. They are great engines but I really like hearing about the alternatives. Please keep us all posted on whatever your experiences are with your experiements. This is not a competition about who has the best engine and when the discussion degenerates to that I quit reading it. Just be sure that there are plenty of us, even 912 owners, who want to know as much as we can about others engines. Thom in Buffalo -------- Thom in Buffalo do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21004#21004


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    Time: 07:15:24 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> , because it seems like it would > be hard > to it. Jason, Feel free to send any info on BMW engine applications you want to share , to my email address snuffy@usol.com. I can assure you a positive response here. Kirk Do not archive


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    Time: 07:27:35 AM PST US
    From: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
    Subject: Fly-in at Homer's
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net> Gentlemen, Just spoke to Clara Kolb and the word is that they are not going to be there over the Father's Day weekend. They are going to Iowa for a vintage tractor expo and will be gone for a couple of weeks. Those of you that know him or were there last time, saw his collection of John Deer's and his passion for them. That precludes any fly-in to their place on that date, although she said that they will look at other dates to possibly still have a fly-in. They thoroughly enjoyed having the last two! I told her that it was OK and it was never intended to become an annual event, but only if they wanted to have it. Will let you know if any other date is suggested by them, Terry - FireFly #95


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    Time: 07:44:17 AM PST US
    From: "John Murr" <jdm@wideworld.net>
    Subject: Re: Fly-in at Homer's
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Murr" <jdm@wideworld.net> I guess then it's Shreveport then! 07N ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Frantz" <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:26 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Fly-in at Homer's > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net> > > Gentlemen, > > Just spoke to Clara Kolb and the word is that they are not going to be > there over the Father's Day weekend. They are going to Iowa for a > vintage tractor expo and will be gone for a couple of weeks. Those of > you that know him or were there last time, saw his collection of John > Deer's and his passion for them. > > That precludes any fly-in to their place on that date, although she said > that they will look at other dates to possibly still have a fly-in. > They thoroughly enjoyed having the last two! I told her that it was OK > and it was never intended to become an annual event, but only if they > wanted to have it. > > Will let you know if any other date is suggested by them, > > Terry - FireFly #95 > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:46:18 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Fly-in at Homer's
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Terry: Thanks for your effort. Let us know if you come up with a new date. Take care, john h MKIII


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    Time: 09:48:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs
    From: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com> Jason, I would like to encourage you and other BMW flyers to post their finding on the list. While a few on the list seem defensive, there are many that are open to new ideas. I just spent an hour searching the archives about BMW's on Kolbs. I found that the cost is around $3000, the weight is about 146 pounds, the hp is around 70, the thrustline with a Rotax C box in the down position is about right. There also seems to be some question on the availability of adapters for the gear box, and maybe the availability of the R100 itself. But if I had the chance to put a BMW on my Firestar II for less than $4,000, I would consider it. I welcome any information about alternative engines. If I don't like what I read, I can keep flying with my 503. I would like to replace my 503 with a 4-stroke before it is wore out. -------- John Jung Firestar II N6163J Surprise, AZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21035#21035


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    Time: 10:28:05 AM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: HELLO - Dolly take-off...
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> I bet Ed got dyslexic with his 6's & 7's, Maule moved to Moultrie in 1968, so the story was probably from 1967, instead of 1976. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Thom Riddle wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> > > Ed in JXN, > > Good story but if this happened before BJ Maule moved to Moultrie, then it had to have happened long before 1976. I went to visit BJ to see his amazing STOL aircraft in the flesh in 1971 when I lived in Atlanta, and he was definitely in Moultrie when I saw him there. <snip> > > Thom in Buffalo > > -------- > Thom in Buffalo > do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21002#21002 > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:34:58 PM PST US
    From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Maulers on the Kolb list
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com> Non-Kolb: Hi Thom, You're right, most of the production had moved down there in the early '70's, but he still maintained his Napoleon ops into the latter '70's. Some aircraft were still built here, plus repairs and such were done. Prior to the 'plywood' takeoff technique, the customers needing floats mounted would fly their Maule into Napoleon, the gear and wings were removed, and the plane was trucked over to Maule's house on Wolf Lake. The floats were - floated! - and the airplane was lowered on from a small crane or A-frame and reassembled. Lots of labor for non-amphibious floats! BD made his 'real' money with the Maule tailwheel through his Mechanical Products Co. The old logo of a Maule coming out of the hangar door flying was from a picture taken at Napoleon. Similar to the takeoff he did over you! There was a movie with Burt Reynolds where they land one in a city street, I don't recall the name. Smokey II? Also, the 'Southern Aviator' did a nice article on son Ray and his wife Rautgunde a couple years ago. Oh, and it's BD. Ed in JXN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:37 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: HELLO - Dolly take-off... > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> > > Ed in JXN, > > Good story but if this happened before BJ Maule moved to Moultrie, then it > had to have happened long before 1976. I went to visit BJ to see his > amazing STOL aircraft in the flesh in 1971 when I lived in Atlanta, and he > was definitely in Moultrie when I saw him there. I had some PA-11 tail > wheel time at the time so he took me for a spin letting me fly the left > seat. Of course I babied it (180 hp model, not the big engine ones) and > was amazed at its performance compared to what I'd flown before. > > We landed and he said get out an stand over there by the hangar door and > watch this, and don't move no matter what I do. So I stood there in the > open hangar door and he taxied out a ways on the ramp spun around gave it > full throttle and was taking off right at me and jumped off the ground and > climbed out over my head and the hangar. Yikes! > > Of course this can be done with a good Kolb now days but it was quite an > amazing feat for a heavy GA airplane. > > Looks like one good flying story leads to another. Wonder what will come > next. > > Thom in Buffalo > > -------- > Thom in Buffalo > do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21002#21002 > > >


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    Time: 01:41:02 PM PST US
    From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: HELLO - Dolly take-off...
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com> Hi Rev, No, they still had a small crew here. Still got my logbooks! Ray closed the remains in 1977, left me and a few others on GI Bill flight training in the lurch. It all worked out, I finished in 1980 at a local community college. BD had rocking chairs throughout the hangar, he'd sit and watch workers and figure out designs, or improve production methods. Similar to Thomas Edison, who had cots throughout his buildings where he would take cat-naps throughout the day. I've been accused of being psychic though. (Or was it psychotic?) Ed in JXN (MI) Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:25 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HELLO - Dolly take-off... > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> > > I bet Ed got dyslexic with his 6's & 7's, Maule moved to Moultrie in > 1968, so the story was probably from 1967, instead of 1976. > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > Thom Riddle wrote: >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> >> >> Ed in JXN, >> >> Good story but if this happened before BJ Maule moved to Moultrie, then >> it had to have happened long before 1976. I went to visit BJ to see his >> amazing STOL aircraft in the flesh in 1971 when I lived in Atlanta, and >> he was definitely in Moultrie when I saw him there. <snip> >> >> Thom in Buffalo >> >> -------- >> Thom in Buffalo >> do not archive >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21002#21002 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 01:50:59 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Maulers on the Kolb list
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Also, the 'Southern Aviator' did a nice | article on son Ray and his wife Rautgunde a couple years ago. | | Oh, and it's BD. | | Ed in JXN Ed/Gang: Some years ago, on a flight in the MKIII to OSH, got into some typical cruddy weather up around the Tennessee/Alabama state line. Got to the point I found myself scud running, following valleys through the low mountains to maintain a reasonable ceiling. I was not alone out there. A Maule was also trying to find a place to weather the storm. I heard the Maule talking to the FBO in Fayetteville, TN. I was also heading that way. The Maule landed just ahead of me at Fayetteville, in a frog strangling down pour. When I finally got into the FBO I met Ray and his wife. We spent the afternoon together at Fayetteville, including a good country lunch in town. Real nice down home folks. After that day I always make it a point to go by and speak to them at Lakeland and OSH. Take care, john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 02:12:48 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: HELLO - Dolly take-off...
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Non Kolb-related Maule history follows - (slow day here-) I went to work for the FAA in 1973, air traffic controller at Albany GA, just down the road from Moultrie where the Maule factory was at. Sometime in that period, BD Maule dredged a lake right between the factory and the road, planted a few trees here and there around the edges, and was well on the way to having a nice scenic little seaplane base to view as you headed out of town. Unfortunately, the lake sprung a leak, a sinkhole or something opened up, and his lake went dry for a while. Eventually he got it plugged and able to hold water, turned out nice, but for a while there it was source of humor for the locals... Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive Ed Chmielewski wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com> > > Hi Rev, > > No, they still had a small crew here. Still got my logbooks! Ray > closed the remains in 1977, left me and a few others on GI Bill flight > training in the lurch. It all worked out, I finished in 1980 at a local > community college. BD had rocking chairs throughout the hangar, he'd sit > and watch workers and figure out designs, or improve production methods. > Similar to Thomas Edison, who had cots throughout his buildings where he > would take cat-naps throughout the day. > > I've been accused of being psychic though. (Or was it psychotic?) > > Ed in JXN (MI) > Do not archive. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:25 PM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HELLO - Dolly take-off... > > > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> >> >> I bet Ed got dyslexic with his 6's & 7's, Maule moved to Moultrie in >> 1968, so the story was probably from 1967, instead of 1976. >> Richard Pike >> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) >> >> >> Thom Riddle wrote: >> >>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> >>> >>> Ed in JXN, >>> >>> Good story but if this happened before BJ Maule moved to Moultrie, then >>> it had to have happened long before 1976. I went to visit BJ to see his >>> amazing STOL aircraft in the flesh in 1971 when I lived in Atlanta, and >>> he was definitely in Moultrie when I saw him there. <snip> >>> >>> Thom in Buffalo >>> >>> -------- >>> Thom in Buffalo >>> do not archive >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21002#21002 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:18:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel steerability
    From: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com> Blumax008(at)aol.com wrote: > My Firestar II is tough to steer using the rudder pedals & tailwheel. Wild Bill Catalina Bill, I still use the stock tailwheel on my Firestar II and the only time I have to use the brakes for steering is to spin around a wheel (u-turn?). I do not use stock springs and that may be the difference. My springs are compression types, like found on a screen door. -------- John Jung Firestar II N6163J Surprise, AZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21066#21066


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    Time: 02:27:24 PM PST US
    From: Russ Kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel steerability
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Russ Kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net> Wild Bill FWIW - all the time I flew my 170, I nearly always had to tap the brake to make a turn . Even with that big rudder! Tightening chains wouldn't do it. Maule tailwheel. I just considered that a brake-tap was simply the way you had to do it, and it always worked.. In a crosswind, sometimes there's just no way to keep it straight; you have to gun it & do a circle. Once at Des Moines , they were expecting the C-5 to come in and there were several thousand people watching (of course!) I made a good landing but had a long taxi with a strong crosswind. Ended up doing SEVEN circles on the taxiway. Most embarassing. Maybe they thought it was a show, the Flying Farmer or something. Hope so. Tower: "What are your intentions?" Me: "you ever fly a taildragger?" Twr: "No" Me: "Just be patient then, I'll get there eventually" And I did, all ended happily. The C-5 came in & maybe they forgot all about this spinning fool. I wouldn't keep the chains real tight as it has to wear bearings, bushings, shafts, whatever. Doesn't seem to work anyway, IMExperience at least. I doubt tread is a big factor; I've flown quite a bit with bald tailwheels. Good luck On Mar 11, 2006, at 8:22 AM, Blumax008@aol.com wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com > > Hey ya'll, > > My Firestar II is tough to steer using the rudder pedals & > tailwheel. I use > the brakes often to get it into a turn & most times have to use them > throughout the turn especially when turning the tail into the wind. > > I've got the tailwheel chains snugged up pretty tight so that > shouldn't be > the problem. I've also lubricated everything in sight in the > tailwheel area. > > Mine has that tiny 25 cent tailwheel...which I figure is probably > the reason > as it doesn't have the tread to grip the surface & actually turn. The > tailwheel slides around a turn, on pavement or grass. > > Thanks for any ideas! > Wild Bill Catalina > >


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    Time: 03:55:00 PM PST US
    From: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
    Subject: Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com> Copied this off of the engines list. ~ Earl > Here's a Beemer on a Firestar: > http://www.daytonulclub.org/id151.htm > > There are a number of Avids that use BMW engines. An > Avid dealer use to sell adapter plates in Idaho, but I > don't see it on their site any longer. Here's some > other info: > http://www.ultralightnews.com/engineinfo/bmwconversion.htm


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    Time: 04:13:59 PM PST US
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net> On Mar 11, 2006, at 6:52 PM, Earl & Mim Zimmerman wrote: > Copied this off of the engines list. ~ Earl > >> Here's a Beemer on a Firestar: >> http://www.daytonulclub.org/id151.htm Ok but, It is not a Firestar.


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    Time: 04:17:36 PM PST US
    From: "JW Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JW Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net> Folks, I do believe that is a MKIIIX Jim Hauck On 3/11/2006 6:52:39 PM, kolb-list@matronics.com wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com> > > Copied this off of the engines list. ~ Earl > > > > Here's a Beemer on a Firestar: > > http://www.daytonulclub.org/id151.htm > > > > There are a number of Avids that use BMW engines. An > > Avid dealer use to sell adapter plates in Idaho, but I > > don't > see it on their site any longer. Here's some > > other info: > > http://www.ultralightnews.com/engineinfo/bmwconversion.htm > > >


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    Time: 04:34:47 PM PST US
    From: "JW Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Beemer
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JW Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net> Folks; Reading the article about the Beemer, Wonder why they change the camshaft to a reverse camshaft when it would be a bunch cheaper to have a prop built for tractor configuration. Only thing I can think of is the Beemer turns the wrong direction for the gear box. Wonder which way that sucker turns? Jim Hauck


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    Time: 04:50:02 PM PST US
    From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Maulers on the Kolb list
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com> Hi John, Your and Rev. Pike's stories help on this slow day. (Sorry Kolbers, another story...) I and my wife had gotten in a flight one late-summer day in a Cherokee 180 at Ray's flight school here in Michigan. Was awakened about 3:00 A.M. by the phone, and Ray hollering, "What'd you do to my airplane?" When I woke up more, I realized his 180 had been in an accident. I was the last one on the sign-out book, so fingers were quickly pointed at me. The plane had been taken out later that night, flown to nearby Brooklyn's grass field and had an encounter with some power lines. Brooklyn's power was knocked out, and the Piper staggered home somehow with the stabilator nearly wrenched off. A testament to the design if ever there was one. Still had the wires wrapped around the tail after landing. They surmised someone, possibly tipsy, had 'borrowed' it. My bacon was saved when Rautgunde remembered seeing us leave and waved from the window of the German restaurant they owned on the field. They also hosted awesome Oktoberfests on the airport, with tents and "Oompah' bands, but those are some more stories! You're right, John, they are great folks. Ed in JXN do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:52 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Maulers on the Kolb list > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> (Snip) When I finally got into the FBO I met > Ray and his wife. We spent the afternoon together at Fayetteville, > including a good country lunch in town. Real nice down home folks.


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    Time: 04:52:48 PM PST US
    From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: HELLO - Dolly take-off...
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com> Rev. Pike, Great story. Thanks! Ed in JXN MkII/503 Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 5:11 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HELLO - Dolly take-off... > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> > > Non Kolb-related Maule history follows - (slow day here-) > (Snip) Unfortunately, the lake sprung a > leak, a sinkhole or something opened up, and his lake went dry for a > while. Eventually he got it plugged and able to hold water, turned out > nice, but for a while there it was source of humor for the locals... > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)


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    Time: 05:23:35 PM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> Registered to a long time lister, according to FAA records: Hans Van Alphen -BB do not archive On 11, Mar 2006, at 7:17 PM, JW Hauck wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JW Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net> > > Folks, I do believe that is a MKIIIX > > Jim Hauck > On 3/11/2006 6:52:39 PM, kolb-list@matronics.com wrote: >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman >> <emzi@supernet.com> >> >> Copied this off of the engines list. ~ Earl >> >>> >> Here's a Beemer on a Firestar: >>> http://www.daytonulclub.org/id151.htm >>> >>> There are a number of Avids that use BMW engines. An >>> Avid dealer use to sell adapter plates in Idaho, but I >>> don't >> see it on their site any longer. Here's some >>> other info: >>> http://www.ultralightnews.com/engineinfo/bmwconversion.htm >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 05:58:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs
    From: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com> Here is a link to the BMW Extra (not Firestar) that works better: http://www.daytonulclub.org/id149.htm -------- John Jung Firestar II N6163J Surprise, AZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21118#21118




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