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1. 04:57 AM - tailwheel steerability (Edward Steuber)
2. 05:09 AM - Re: tailwheel steerability (robert bean)
3. 06:14 AM - Re: Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs (Denny Rowe)
4. 07:19 AM - Re: Maulers on the Kolb list (Thom Riddle)
5. 07:41 AM - Grass strip turf question (Mike Schnabel)
6. 07:49 AM - Re: Grass strip turf question (John Hauck)
7. 08:14 AM - Re: Grass strip turf question (Terry Frantz)
8. 08:27 AM - Re: Grass strip turf question (ray anderson)
9. 08:31 AM - Re: Grass strip turf question (Jack B. Hart)
10. 08:49 AM - Re: Grass strip turf question (John Hauck)
11. 09:32 AM - Re: Grass strip turf question (Herb Gayheart)
12. 09:32 AM - Re: Tailwheel steerability (planecrazzzy)
13. 11:37 AM - Re: Grass strip turf question (Kirk Smith)
14. 12:53 PM - Re: Grass strip turf question (Bill Vincent)
15. 02:19 PM - Re: Re: Grass strip turf question/And Obstacles (John Hauck)
16. 02:25 PM - Re: Re: Grass strip turf question (Larry Bourne)
17. 02:40 PM - Re: tailwheel steerability (DAquaNut@aol.com)
18. 03:45 PM - Re: Re: Grass strip turf question (Kirk Smith)
19. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: Grass strip turf question (Jeremy Casey)
20. 04:27 PM - Re: Grass strip turf question (Jeremy Casey)
21. 04:42 PM - Re: Grass strip turf question (John Hauck)
22. 05:01 PM - MKIII Landing Eureka Lodge, Alaska (John Hauck)
23. 05:02 PM - Re: MKIII Landing Eureka Lodge, Alaska (John Hauck)
24. 05:06 PM - Re: MKIII Landing Eureka Lodge, Alaska (John Hauck)
25. 06:19 PM - Re: MKIII Landing Eureka Lodge, Alaska (Thom Riddle)
26. 06:34 PM - Re: Re: MKIII Landing Eureka Lodge, Alaska (Bob Dalton)
27. 07:02 PM - Re: MKIII Landing Eureka Lodge, Alaska (John Hauck)
28. 07:05 PM - Re: Grass strip turf question (Charlie England)
29. 09:54 PM - Re: Grass strip turf question (Denny Rowe)
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| Subject: | tailwheel steerability |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
Bill,
You can either lengthen the rudder arms or shorten the tailwheel steering
arm. If using stiff springs you may have a problem hitting the rudder stops
if you change it too much . I have a homemade tailwheel pivot that allows the
steering arms to go 90 degrees ( no breakaway clutch). I use lighter springs
and put them at the rudder arms and the tailwheel will go almost 90 degrees both
ways. The springs will be stretched a bit in turns....makes it a bit more challenging
for directional control on hard surface but well within control...but
it turns better !
Toe dance ED in Western NY
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| Subject: | Re: tailwheel steerability |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Tailwheels take a beating and need frequent care. Still better than
those
"training wheels" up front.
Another reason for limited turning ability is a bent spring/rod will
make
it want to caster forward only. Ideally the pivot hinge is straight up
and down.
-BB
On 12, Mar 2006, at 7:53 AM, Edward Steuber wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Steuber"
> <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
>
> Bill,
> You can either lengthen the rudder arms or shorten the
> tailwheel steering arm. If using stiff springs you may have a problem
> hitting the rudder stops if you change it too much . I have a homemade
> tailwheel pivot that allows the steering arms to go 90 degrees ( no
> breakaway clutch). I use lighter springs and put them at the rudder
> arms and the tailwheel will go almost 90 degrees both ways. The
> springs will be stretched a bit in turns....makes it a bit more
> challenging for directional control on hard surface but well within
> control...but it turns better !
>
>
>
> Toe dance ED in Western NY
> Do Not Archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: BMW R100 on Kolbs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Guys,
I also want to hear everything you BMW flyers and builders are willing to
share, also Jabiru flyers, it seems there is a growing number of both out
there.
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, 2SI 690L-70
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| Subject: | Re: Maulers on the Kolb list |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Ed,
You are correct, sir. It was BD, not BJ. I was thinking it was BD but when I said
that outloud it brought memories of Jim Bede, another totally different aviation
inventor and decided it was not BD but BJ. At any rate, BD was an amazing
man. As so many of the pioneers in our great flying pastime, he was one of those
down-to-earth guys that loved aviation with a passion and built a good business
around it. A lot of that still around, such as Homer who I've not yet
had the pleasure of meeting but intend to this year if he decides to welcome us
again. Couldn't make it last year but will this year if he lets us.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com>
Gentlemen,
Finally spring is nearing, and the rain has stayed away long enough for ground
preparation on my grass runway. We have been working the ground the last few
months, and have disked and dragged to what is now a very nice level surface.
My question: its now time to decide what grass to attempt to grow that is best
suited for a runway (if it really makes much difference). Does anyone have an
opinion?
Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts!
Mike S
Firestar2 503
Manchester TN
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| Subject: | Re: Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
that is best suited for a runway (if it really makes much difference).
Does anyone have an opinion?
|
| Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts!
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| Mike S
Mike:
I'm not a grass man, but I am lucky enough to have a little grass
strip.
I can't remember what kind of seed I sewed after tilling, but never
put any more on it after the initial planting. My strip is surrounded
by and was part of the hay fields/pastures of the farm.
I'd check with the local country agent or the man at the feed/seed
store, and go with his recommendations. For me, all I want is
something to cover the dirt and keep the dust and errosion down.
No matter what you put on it, it will grow too fast in the summer.
;-)
john h
MKIII
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| Subject: | Re: Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry Frantz <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Mike Schnabel wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com>
>
>Gentlemen,
>
> Finally spring is nearing, and the rain has stayed away long enough for ground
preparation on my grass runway. We have been working the ground the last few
months, and have disked and dragged to what is now a very nice level surface.
>
> My question: its now time to decide what grass to attempt to grow that is best
suited for a runway (if it really makes much difference). Does anyone have
an opinion?
>
> Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts!
>
> Mike S
> Firestar2 503
> Manchester TN
>
>
>
>
>
Mike,
Ask your local Agway dealer about "Shortcut" grass.
Terry - FireFly #95
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| Subject: | Re: Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
All,
On subject of strips and runways, I nominate John H. and his Kolb for this.
A Kolb is a perfect vehicle for it. Forget grass. Many years ago while doing
some airshow work, we had an act known as the worlds smallest airport. A
J3 cub would take off and land on top of an automobile. Of course the auto had
to be moving. A couple of 20-22 ft.wood channels were fastened on top of a
car, with a couple of properly placed wheel "wells" up at the end. The Cub was
placed on top in position and the car driven to take off speed and the pilot
just gave it full throttle and lifted off. Came in over the car at landing speed
and carefully dropped into the wheel wells, throttled back, and there he was.
Kolb visibility and landing speed perfect for this. Johns experience in dropping
helicopters into tight landing spaces makes him the logical candidate to
do it first with a Kolb. Who will volunteer to go down and videotape?
do not archive.
John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
Mike:
I'm not a grass man, but I am lucky enough to have a little grass
strip.
I can't remember what kind of seed I sewed after tilling, but never
put any more on it after the initial planting. My strip is surrounded
by and was part of the hay fields/pastures of the farm.
I'd check with the local country agent or the man at the feed/seed
store, and go with his recommendations. For me, all I want is
something to cover the dirt and keep the dust and errosion down.
No matter what you put on it, it will grow too fast in the summer.
;-)
john h
MKIII
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| Subject: | Re: Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
At 07:40 AM 3/12/06 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com>
>
> My question: its now time to decide what grass to attempt to grow that is
best suited for a runway (if it really makes much difference). Does anyone
have an opinion?
>
Mike,
After moving to Winchester, IN and moving into a new home, I had to figure
out what lawn seed to use. I talked to a fellow who baby sits I22 about
what grass to use. He had a home landing strip and recommended Manhattan
II. It is a dwarf perennial rye grass. If you are not going to graze your
strip and you are going to mow it, this may be the grass for you.
I Googled the web and found a source at:
http://www.ryegrasses.com/info/turfseed/manhattan.html
The latest variety is Manhattan IV. I have used this grass to establish a
new lawn around the house. It is a little pricey, but I believe it is well
worth it, just for the difference in mowing expense. When I get my runway
levelled, I will be using it on the runway too.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Kolb for this.
Ray Anderson
Ray:
Maybe we ought to get some of the younger folks to try that. Maybe
someone in the 20's or 30's.
Do we have anyone on the Kolb List that young? or will we have to go
with a 40 year old?
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Yeah! We need someone who heals quickly..:-) . Herb
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:48:26 -0600 "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> | On subject of strips and runways, I nominate John H. and
> his
> Kolb for this.
>
> Ray Anderson
>
> Ray:
>
> Maybe we ought to get some of the younger folks to try that. Maybe
>
> someone in the 20's or 30's.
>
> Do we have anyone on the Kolb List that young? or will we have to go
>
> with a 40 year old?
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Tailwheel steerability |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
It would be nice to see pictures......
Getting some of you guys to post pictures of your improvments , is like pulling
teeth....
Gotta Fly...
.
.
..
esteuber(at)rochester.rr. wrote:
> Bill,
> You can either lengthen the rudder arms or shorten the tailwheel steering
arm. If using stiff springs you may have a problem hitting the rudder stops
if you change it too much . I have a homemade tailwheel pivot that allows the
steering arms to go 90 degrees ( no breakaway clutch). I use lighter springs
and put them at the rudder arms and the tailwheel will go almost 90 degrees
both ways. The springs will be stretched a bit in turns....makes it a bit more
challenging for directional control on hard surface but well within control...but
it turns better !
>
>
Toe dance ED in Western NY
> Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
: its now time to decide what grass to attempt to grow that is best suited
for a runway (if it really makes much difference).
I just let the weeds that grow here naturally come up and mowed them.
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| Subject: | Re: Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Hi Gang
I agree with Kirk, but personally, I think you should plant any type of grass that
deer dislike (maybe even plant astro turf :-)
The deer on the runway that I fly from usually come out at dusk, they used to run
when they heard me coming in for a landing, but now they just stand there and
stick their tongues out at me...four times last year I had to abort my landing
because they were either standing in the way or they were running across
the runway in front of me, I am thinking it is the clover in the grass they like.
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Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Grass strip turf question/And Obstacles |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
they used to run when they heard me coming in for a landing, but now
they just stand there and stick their tongues out at me | --------
| Bill Vincent
Bill;
There are 50 to 100 cows that love my airstrip. They are born there
with the little red and yellow airplane, which is a normal part of
their life. When they become old mama's some will play games with me
when I try to land and they won't get off the strip.
Worst part is the land mines they leave behind, especially during the
winter when they are fed hay by the airstrip. I exercise my old
tractors pulling 8 truck tires fixed in a diamond shape to spread out
the cow pies so they will dry quicker.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yah, but those're Yooper deer. :-) Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 12:51 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Grass strip turf question
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
>
> Hi Gang
> I agree with Kirk, but personally, I think you should plant any type of
> grass that deer dislike (maybe even plant astro turf :-)
> The deer on the runway that I fly from usually come out at dusk, they used
> to run when they heard me coming in for a landing, but now they just stand
> there and stick their tongues out at me...four times last year I had to
> abort my landing because they were either standing in the way or they were
> running across the runway in front of me, I am thinking it is the clover
> in the grass they like.
>
> --------
> Bill Vincent
> Firestar II
> Upper Peninsula of Michigan
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21287#21287
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: tailwheel steerability |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 3/12/2006 6:58:17 A.M. Central Standard Time,
esteuber@rochester.rr.com writes:
I have a homemade tailwheel pivot that allows the steering arms to go 90
degrees ( no breakaway clutch). I use lighter springs and put them at the rudder
arms and the tailwheel will go almost 90 degrees both ways. The springs will
be stretched a bit in turns....makes it a bit more challenging for
directional control on hard surface but well within control...but it turns better
!
Toe dance ED in Western NY
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Ed,
Is there any way you could post some pictures of your home brewed tail
wheel? I have been thinking, if I knew the principal, of how the castering
tailweels, worked, I could fabricate my own. If you cant post a picture, could
ya come up with a materials list and a verbal explanation how you built it.
If anyone else has a design for a lightweight tail wheel that works better
than stock, please fess up and tell how you dun it!
Ed ( Firefly # 62)
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| Subject: | Re: Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 3:51 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Grass strip turf question
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
>
> Hi Gang
> I agree with Kirk, but personally, I think you should plant any type of
grass that deer dislike (maybe even plant astro turf :-)
> The deer on the runway that I fly from usually come out at dusk, they used
to run when they heard me coming in for a landing, but now they just stand
there and stick their tongues out at me...four times last year I had to
abort my landing because they were either standing in the way or they were
running across the runway in front of me, I am thinking it is the clover in
the grass they like.
>
> --------
> Bill Vincent
> Firestar II
> Upper Peninsula of Michigan
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21287#21287
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
<SNIP>
they used to run when they heard me coming in for a landing, but now
they just stand there and stick their tongues out at me...four times
last year I had to abort my landing because they were either standing
in the way or they were running across the runway in front of me, I am
thinking it is the clover in the grass they like.
<SNIP>
deer in your area scared of a bullet? ;-)
Jeremy
P.S. The local law enforcement might frown on the gun in the
cockpit...maybe you can convince them you're an air marshall?
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| Subject: | Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
| On subject of strips and runways, I nominate John H. and his
Kolb for this.
Ray Anderson
Ray:
Maybe we ought to get some of the younger folks to try that. Maybe
someone in the 20's or 30's.
Do we have anyone on the Kolb List that young? or will we have to go
with a 40 year old?
john h
<snip>
Hey John,
I'm 31 and game to try it...can I use your plane? (It does have the
strongest landing gear of any Kolb out there...it seems like the logical
choice? ;-)
Jeremy Casey
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| Subject: | Re: Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
the
| strongest landing gear of any Kolb out there...it seems like the
logical
| choice? ;-)
|
| Jeremy Casey
Jeremy:
Be lot more fun to use yours.
john h
MKIII
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| Subject: | MKIII Landing Eureka Lodge, Alaska |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
On 19 July 2004, I shot a landing at Eureka Lodge, Alaska. I had taken off from
a gravel strip on the bank of the Knik River near Palmer, AK. It was about
0830, I was hungry and looking for coffee. Nearly two years later I got the video
clips of my landing, which I did not know had been taped. Paul Petty while
communicating with a gentleman in Alaska discovered Miss P'fer's landing at
Skelton Airstrip, Eureka Lodge, AK.
Thanks Paul. Here's the url for 4 segments. Recommend "saving as" and downloading
to your hard drive before playing. Each clip is 16 mb.
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/Eureka%20Lodge/
Not worth the effort to try and download these if you have a dial up. May not
be worth the effort to download if you have cable. ;-)
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: MKIII Landing Eureka Lodge, Alaska |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
The url broke on the previous. You can cut and paste it, or use this condensed
url:
http://urlsnip.com/383692
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MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
The shortened version didn't work either, but I double checked this one and I think
it will get you to the index page and the four files.
http://xrl.us/keii
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hauck's holler, alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
The last link worked but the file types are unknown to my computer. What kind of
video file has a .VOB extension. Nome of my applications recognize it?
Thom in Buffalo
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
Thom,
The videos are MPEG; the VOB is a file name only I believe. They play on my
Windows Media Player.
Good luck, Bob D.
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The last link worked but the file types are unknown to my computer. What
kind of video file has a .VOB extension. Nome of my applications recognize
it?
Thom in Buffalo
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Paul Petty recorded a DVD from the orginal VHS tape. I stuck the DVD in my computer
and downloaded the file to my HD. It works with Window Media Player and
Real Player, plus a couple others that I can not remember.
Paul's DVD recorder automatically put the 16mb chaps in the DVD. He never could
figure out how to get them out and into one clip. Neither do I.
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| Subject: | Re: Grass strip turf question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Mike Schnabel wrote:
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>Gentlemen,
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> Finally spring is nearing, and the rain has stayed away long enough for ground
preparation on my grass runway. We have been working the ground the last few
months, and have disked and dragged to what is now a very nice level surface.
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> My question: its now time to decide what grass to attempt to grow that is best
suited for a runway (if it really makes much difference). Does anyone have
an opinion?
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> Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts!
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> Mike S
> Firestar2 503
> Manchester TN
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We use Bermuda here in central Mississippi; it's durable & grows low &
fairly slow. Cuts down on mowing a lot if we can keep the dallas grass &
other weeds off it. One or two treatments a season with MSMA helps a lot.
Be sure to check on whether the grass you choose will thrive in your
climate. One of the founding members of our strip did a lot of research,
found some expensive custom breed that's great for runways, bought a lot
of it & it all died. Seems it was bred for northern climes & 'couldn't
take the heat.'
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Mike,
I bought Timithy (hay) seed from a local farmer. Several farmers sell it
around here for $20-$25 a bushel.
You may have the deer problems with it that someone mentioned as they do
like it but it is dirt cheap and that makes it easy to overseed so it comes
in thick, it also came up nice and quick.
You might want to check with the local farmers.
Denny
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