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1. 06:50 AM - Re: Ethanol/Gasoline Mixture (Rick Miles)
2. 09:32 AM - Re: Upgrades to my Mark III (pat ladd)
3. 09:59 AM - Re: Upgrades to my Mark III (Kolbdriver)
4. 09:59 AM - Re: Upgrades to my Mark III (Roger Lee)
5. 10:05 AM - Re: Ethanol/Gasoline Mixture (Roger Lee)
6. 10:43 AM - Re: Re: Upgrades to my Mark III (David Key)
7. 11:11 AM - Re: Upgrades to my Mark III (David Key)
8. 11:29 AM - Re: Re: Upgrades to my Mark III (Robert Laird)
9. 11:30 AM - Ethanol / gasoline mixture (Edward Steuber)
10. 12:33 PM - Re: Upgrades to my Mark III (Roger Lee)
11. 01:25 PM - Re: Ethanol/Gasoline Mixture (Dave Bigelow)
12. 01:46 PM - Re: Re: Upgrades to my Mark III (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
13. 01:46 PM - Re: Land Shorter VG's on Firestar II (Dave Bigelow)
14. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: Land Shorter VG's on Firestar II (John Hauck)
15. 03:02 PM - Older Pilots (Larry Bourne)
16. 03:39 PM - Re: Land Shorter VG's on Firestar II (John Jung)
17. 04:10 PM - Re: Older Pilots (Larry Cottrell)
18. 04:11 PM - Test (Larry Bourne)
19. 04:30 PM - Re: Test (David Carr)
20. 04:34 PM - Re: Test (Ed Chmielewski)
21. 05:01 PM - Re: Older Pilots (robert bean)
22. 05:22 PM - Re: Older Pilots (russ kinne)
23. 05:22 PM - Re: Older Pilots (russ kinne)
24. 05:23 PM - Firestar II Windshield (Tom463@aol.com)
25. 05:29 PM - Re: Hoover video... (russ kinne)
26. 06:20 PM - Re: Firestar II Windshield (John Jung)
27. 06:32 PM - Re: Older Pilots (jerb)
28. 06:45 PM - Re: Ethanol/Gasoline Mixture (John Jung)
29. 07:03 PM - Re: Older Pilots (Larry Bourne)
30. 07:03 PM - Re: Older Pilots (Beauford)
31. 07:07 PM - Re: Older Pilots (Larry Bourne)
32. 07:30 PM - VIDEO OF KOLB ON SKIS (Bill Vincent)
33. 08:26 PM - Re: VIDEO OF KOLB ON SKIS (possums)
34. 08:26 PM - Fw: NOT DELIVERED - To: - Subject: Re: Older Pilots (Larry Bourne)
35. 08:33 PM - Re: Older Pilots (Robert Laird)
36. 08:39 PM - Re: Land Shorter VG's on Firestar II (Dave Bigelow)
37. 08:48 PM - Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error (Matt Dralle)
38. 10:08 PM - Re: Firestar II Windshield (Larry Cottrell)
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol/Gasoline Mixture |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Rick Miles <ultrastarrick@yahoo.com>
Hi I work on 2 stroke race motors and have discover that the ethanol cleans the
oil from the bearings a little to good and most of the time causes abnormal wear.
Dave Bigelow <up_country@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow"
The State of Hawaii Legislature (in their infinte wisdom/ignorance) has passed
a law that mandates all automotive gas sold in the state after April 1st will
consist of 10% ethanol. This sounds like a nice green thing to do, but from a
technical standpoint is bogus. First thing is that it takes more energy to produce
a gallon of ethanol than the gallon of ethanol will produce. Add to that
the fact that a gallon of ethanol has only 75% of the engergy of a gallon of gas,
and also has a fuel system damaging affinity for absorbing water. The whole
thing is a feel good tax payer subsidy of the local sugar industry. End of rant!
Now, the reason for this post is tap some of the great amount of experience on
this list. What kind of experience have you had running a gas/ethanol blend in
two stroke engines? Is the power loss noticible? Is re-jetting needed? Have you
had problems with water laden fuel gumming up the carbs?
Maybe "Sea Foam" will solve the whole problem. :P
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| Subject: | Re: Upgrades to my Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Just installed a 9 gal. reserve bladder tank from IMTRA. >>
Hi Roger,
that sounds interesting. More details please. Off list if you like to
pj.ladd@btinternet.com.uk
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Upgrades to my Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
Keep it ON LINE please??
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pat ladd
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Upgrades to my Mark III
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Just installed a 9 gal. reserve bladder tank from IMTRA. >>
Hi Roger,
that sounds interesting. More details please. Off list if you like to
pj.ladd@btinternet.com.uk
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Upgrades to my Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
Sorry for some of the confusion. I have the standard 10 gal. of fuel on my Mark
III. I added the 9 gal. bladder tank for a total of 19 gal. The bladder tank
is made by Nauta. They have 6, 9 or 18 gal tanks. It has all the fittings and
is ready to go. Here is the web site.
www.imtra.com/downloadtypes/nauta_brochure.pdf
I bought mine from a company called Defender Industries. Seems to be the best price
I found for $299.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol/Gasoline Mixture |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
In Arizona we have had that fuel for many years now and it is used during the winter
months. They are now going to get rid of it from what I hear. I have used
this for many years and you should not notice any difference. When I had my
Rotorway 162F helicopter they recomended that we not use it because Rotorway thought
it was hard on some of their seals and rubber parts. Didn't seem to make
a difference. I use it now in my 912S. In Arizona they switch back to the regular
fuel during the warmer months.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| Subject: | Re: Upgrades to my Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
That gas bladder is neat! I would much rather the Kolb stored it's gas in
the wings like RANS does instead of in the cockpit. I want to explore this.
It could limit the folding ability... I have to think about this.
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| Subject: | Upgrades to my Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
Can you upload photos or email me of the photos of the gas bladder installed
on your plane?
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| Subject: | Re: Upgrades to my Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Where did you put the bladder tank? Pictures?
-- Robert
On 3/19/06, Roger Lee <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
>
> Sorry for some of the confusion. I have the standard 10 gal. of fuel on my
> Mark III. I added the 9 gal. bladder tank for a total of 19 gal. The bladder
> tank is made by Nauta. They have 6, 9 or 18 gal tanks. It has all the
> fittings and is ready to go. Here is the web site.
>
> www.imtra.com/downloadtypes/nauta_brochure.pdf
>
> I bought mine from a company called Defender Industries. Seems to be the
> best price I found for $299.
>
> --------
> Roger Lee
> Tucson, Az.
>
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| Subject: | Ethanol / gasoline mixture |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
All,
I don't believe it should cause a big problem for the people with engines
that can adapt the oil injection to their particular engines like all the Rotex
models . I was told the oil does not mix well with the alcohol and a lubrication
problem can result.....In my case I am running 2 Cuyuna's (Ul202) on my
Kolb and CGS Hawk that I don't believe can be adapted to oil injection. I do
know 2SI was in the process of supplying 28 HP 2 cycle engines of the same configuration
to the military that run on jet fuel...I think they are using an
injector system on it ...anybody know ? Of course they no longer support the ultralight
community because of past litigation so don't plan on pulling up to
the jet fuel pumps any time soon ...
Unless I buy one of those pulse jet engines on E-bay ...then I could install
a bottle jack between the front wing attach points and sweep the wings in
flight on the Ultrastar.....NAAAAWW !........ then I'd have to put 7 ribs in
the wings !
Mach .1 ED in Western NY
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| Subject: | Re: Upgrades to my Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
I mounted mine just behind the main tanks on top of the fusalage material. I had
a Codura bag (can be any color) made and the bladder tank fits inside. Doesn't
have to be in a bag just the way I set it up. I had some 1" strap added to
the seams on the bottom of the bag that is attached to my frame. It just sits
there. It rises when full and flattens out when empty. The filler tube on the
bladder is long and swivels so it's easy to fill. You can set up the fuel feed
any way you want. I have mine set up on a valve in the cockpit and an auxillary
fuel pump I already owned. I pump it into the main tanks and that lets me see
the amount on my EIS for the amount in the main tanks. My Navman also lets
me watch my fuel usage for a particular trip. I'm sure this can be set up a dozen
different ways. This way was easy and it seems to work. It would take just
a few minutes also to remove the system if for some reason you wanted it out
of the way.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol/Gasoline Mixture |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
I'm finding more and more on the subject of blended ethanol/gas as I go - most
of it not good. Here's a very good research paper done by Onan Engines in Australia
that Jim Baker recommended:
http://www.deh.gov.au/atmosphere/fuelquality/publications/review-non-automotive/pubs/review.pdf
Here's what Rotax has to say:
*OXYGENATES (ALCOHOL ADDITIVES) ARE TO BE AVOIDED, ANY VOLUMES OVER 5% CANNOT BE
USED. TESTING FOR ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY SAFE WAY TO BE SURE YOUR FUEL IS O.K.
FOR USE IN YOUR ROTAX. A SIMPLE TEST KIT FOR DOING THIS IS AVAILABLE THROUGH AUTHORIZED
DISTRIBUTORS OF MOGAS FOR AIRCRAFT. CONTACT YOUR LOCAL EAA FOR YOUR
NEAREST MOGAS DISTRIBUTOR. THE ILL EFFECTS OF ALCOHOL IN YOUR ENGINE ARE AS FOLLOWS;
THE ALCOHOL WILL ATTRACT WATER, THIS CAN CAUSE YOUR SEDIMENT TRAPS TO FLOOD,
PLUG FILTERS AND RESTRICT FUEL FLOW. ALSO, AND VERY IMPORTANT, THE ALCOHOL
COMPETES DIRECTLY WITH THE LUBRICATION, AND DEPENDING ON YOUR OILS ABILITY
TO COMBAT SUCH, COULD CAUSE ENGINE DAMAGE IMPORTANT ALSO IS THE ALCOHOL CARRIES
WATER WHICH ON ENGINE SHUT DOWN AND STORAGE CAN CREATE CORROSION ON VITAL ENGINE
PARTS SUCH AS CRANK MAIN AND ROD BEARINGS AS WELL AS PINS. ONCE CORROSION
PITS HAVE STARTED, THE BEARINGS WIU FAIL SHORTLY AFTER. *SEASONAL BLEND CROSSOVERS
CAN EFFECT YOUR FUELS VOLATILITY IF YOU USE A WINTER BLEND FUEL DURING A
HOT SUMMER DAY. THIS IS A COMMON OCCURRENCE WITH PEOPLE WHO BUY A FUEL BLEND
IN COLDER CLIMATES IN MARCH, BUT DON'T USE IT IN THEIR ROTAX UNTIL JUNE. EVAPORATION
TEMPERATURES OF YOUR FUEL MUST BE LOW ENOUGH TO MINIMIZE CRANKCASE AND
COMBUSTION CHAMBER DEPOSITS AS WELL AS SPARK PLUG FOULING WITHOUT FEAR OF VAPOUR
LOCKING OR BOILING. ALWAYS MAKE SURE YOU BUY YOUR FUEL FROM A HIGH VOLUME USER,
AND AVOID FUELWHICH HAS BEEN IN STORAGE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME, ESPECIALLY
BETWEEN SEASONS. LOSS OF OCTANE RATING IS A COMMON PROBLEM ON FUEL STORED
INCORRECTLY, WHICH COULD LEAD DIRECTLY TO ENGINE STOPPAGE.
Guess my only choice here in Hawaii will be to use avgas - any tips regarding the
use of avgas in 2 stroke engines?
--------
Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| Subject: | Re: Upgrades to my Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Not me!... I have friends with wing tanks and lifting up a 5 gallon gas can
is a pain...if it leaks, then the fuel comes down your arm. But mainly, it
would mean disconnecting fuel lines when you fold the wings and I fold mine
every time I fly. I like it the way it is, thank you.
AzDave
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From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Upgrades to my Mark III
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
>
> That gas bladder is neat! I would much rather the Kolb stored it's gas in
> the wings like RANS does instead of in the cockpit. I want to explore
> this.
> It could limit the folding ability... I have to think about this.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Land Shorter VG's on Firestar II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
My Landshorter VG's are at 7 inches from the leading edge measured along the chord
line of my Firestar 2 wing. The interval is from the Landshorter templates.
My wing has a smooth leading edge with no sag between ribs, so I could put
them at any interval.
Stall is at 30 mph, and is abrupt, much like that of a sailplane laminar wing.
Handling is rock solid right up to the stall, and then it quits with a pronounced
drop of the nose. I find that the aircraft flys better in ground effect
during the landing flare, and doesn't quit flying as suddenly as it did before
VG's. I do notice that it takes a little more power to hold cruise speed. Overall,
I think they are a great positive.
John's flight tests seem to indicate that the stall charactoristics are more mellow
with the VG's at 8 inches. If I were starting from scratch, I'd use 8 inches
from the LE.
--------
Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| Subject: | Re: Land Shorter VG's on Firestar II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
laminar wing. Handling is rock solid right up to the stall, and then
it quits with a pronounced drop of the nose. I find that the aircraft
flys better in ground effect during the landing flare, and doesn't
quit flying as suddenly as it did before VG's. | --------
| Dave Bigelow
The para above, to me, is contradictory. You say the stall is at 30
mph and abrupt. However, during landing, "doesn't quit flying as
suddenly as it did before VG's."
I'm probably reading it wrong. If so, you can straighten me out,
please.
Glad it flies better in ground effect. Mine does too.
john h
MKIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older Pilots are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." It's an AP feed by Ryan Pearson, and, in my opinion, is badly biased and very slanted. Makes me want badly to bloody his nose. Take a look in your own local newspapers, or look at www.thedesertsun.com and scroll way down to the "California" section, the 2nd bullet.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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| Subject: | Re: Land Shorter VG's on Firestar II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Dave Bigelow wrote:
> My Landshorter VG's are at 7 inches from the leading edge measured along the
chord line of my Firestar 2 wing. The interval is from the Landshorter templates.
My wing has a smooth leading edge with no sag between ribs, so I could put
them at any interval.
Dave and Group,
This is interesting because I have a smooth wing too. What interval did you choose?
Could the 1 inch change in placement cause that much difference? Or are
we describing the same thing differently? The VG's do give my stall a sharper
feel but much less nose drop and much less time before the stall stops. At least
that is the impression that I got. At 4,500 rpm, I could do a stall every 5
to 10 seconds, always between 29.5 and 30 mph, and I did not notice a change
in my vertical air speed on the EIS, or an altitude loss. Maybe, I not pulling
into the stall fast enough, but I think that I was simulating a landing stall.
Do we have any former test pilots to help with how stall testing should be done
or described?
--------
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Hi,
I read the same thing, but however while you may not be too old to
fly,( you may be when you finally get Vamoose done) you are definitely too
old to be bashing any body in the nose.
yer friend
Larry Oregon
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From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 3:00 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Older Pilots
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older Pilots
> are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." It's an AP feed by Ryan
> Pearson, and, in my opinion, is badly biased and very slanted. Makes me
> want badly to bloody his nose. Take a look in your own local newspapers,
> or look at www.thedesertsun.com and scroll way down to the "California"
> section, the 2nd bullet.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Sent an email to the List a bit ago and it was rejected as "junk mail." No jokes
please.........why should this be ?? Lar.
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Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: David Carr <DECarr@direcway.com>
I got one from you talking about old pilots more prone to crashing. Was that
the one?
DEC
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Subject: Kolb-List: Test
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Sent an email to the List a bit ago and it was rejected as "junk mail." No
jokes please.........why should this be ?? Lar.
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Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Hi Lar,
Came through fine for me, if you're talking about the 'Old pilots'
news story in The Desert Sun paper.
Ed in JXN (MI)
MkII/503
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Sent an email to the List a bit ago and it was rejected as "junk mail."
> No jokes please.........why should this be ?? Lar.
> Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Older pilots fly Kolbs in disproportionate numbers too :)
-BB
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On 19, Mar 2006, at 6:00 PM, Larry Bourne wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older
> Pilots are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." It's an AP feed by
> Ryan Pearson, and, in my opinion, is badly biased and very slanted.
> Makes me want badly to bloody his nose. Take a look in your own local
> newspapers, or look at www.thedesertsun.com and scroll way down to the
> "California" section, the 2nd bullet.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Don't see anything called the " CALIFORNIA SECTION"
Where it is?
do not archive
On Mar 19, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Larry Bourne wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older
> Pilots are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." It's an AP feed
> by Ryan Pearson, and, in my opinion, is badly biased and very
> slanted. Makes me want badly to bloody his nose. Take a look in
> your own local newspapers, or look at www.thedesertsun.com and
> scroll way down to the "California" section, the 2nd bullet.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Larry, Larry
Maybe we're not too old to bash YOUNGER loudmouths in the nose -- if
they deserve it!
Do not archive
On Mar 19, 2006, at 7:07 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell"
> <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
>
> Hi,
> I read the same thing, but however while you may not be too old to
> fly,( you may be when you finally get Vamoose done) you are
> definitely too
> old to be bashing any body in the nose.
> yer friend
> Larry Oregon
>
> Do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> To: <Kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 3:00 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Older Pilots
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>
>> There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older
>> Pilots
>> are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." It's an AP feed by Ryan
>> Pearson, and, in my opinion, is badly biased and very slanted.
>> Makes me
>> want badly to bloody his nose. Take a look in your own local
>> newspapers,
>> or look at www.thedesertsun.com and scroll way down to the
>> "California"
>> section, the 2nd bullet.
>>
>> Larry Bourne
>> Palm Springs, CA
>> Building Kolb Mk III
>> N78LB Vamoose
>> www.gogittum.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Firestar II Windshield |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Tom463@aol.com
I recently purchased a Firestar II with the full enclosure and I do NOT like
the center tube in front of my face. I need the full enclosure due to
health reasons. Any suggestions on SAFE methods to remove the obstruction and
still maintain the stability of the windshield?
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| Subject: | Re: Hoover video... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Pat
Late reply but I think Homer will be elsewhere this year; no fly-in.
You've been thru "death etc etc "??? you sound OK for a dead guy --
more later,
best
Russ
On Mar 16, 2006, at 2:25 PM, pat ladd wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> My Mac can't open this one either!>>
>
> Hi Russ,
>
> perhaps you just have to be patient. I don`t have a Mac but my comp
> took a
> long time to download.
>
> Just surfaced after changing addresses. Phew! I have been through
> death,
> birth, marriage, divorce and moving house tops them all. The last
> time I
> moved, fifteen years or so ago it didn`t seem too bad, but this
> time......
>
> Perhaps it is just age that robs us of the capability of keeping
> about two
> dozen balls in the air at once. Perhaps things are just more
> complicated.
> Just advising everyone, friends, Bank, utilities, insurances,
> investments,.
> seemed a full time job and a simple card just will not suffice for
> many
> corporations. Change of address has to be on THEIR form and signed.
> What a
> load of cobblers!
>
> However we are actually in residence, still surrounded by builders
> etc,
> `just finishing off`` their jobs. Surrounded by boxes full of
> heaven knows
> what including hundred of books. Nowhere to put them until I build
> shelves.
> Shelves cannot be erected until the decorating is finished...etc.,
>
> Still, I am within 4 minutes walk of a good pub, 5 minutes from a
> top class
> restaraunt and 10 minutes closer to my airstrip so its not all bad.
>
> I fired up the old confuzer and had nearly a thousand posts waiting. I
> deleted quite a few without paying much attention but did I
> correctly pick
> up the fact that there would be no Kolb Family Fly in this year?
> Somebody
> confirm please.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
> do not archive
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Windshield |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Tom.
Mesure the thickness of your windscreen. If it is .090", just remove the bar. If
it is less than .090, make a new on out of .090 Laxan and then remove the bar.
I didn't like the bar either. Mine has been gone for 7 years.
--------
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Let's think about this - cost of flying today lends itself to older
and often better financially positioned individuals. Getting started
today is very expensive. Once the major life responsibilities are
past like paying for the house, expenses of raising ones kids and
their education, it isn't until one is older that they have the time
and financial ability where they can get back involved with
aviation. By this alone the majority of the pilot population will
age. Attend any meeting of an EAA Chapter that has been around for a
while, you'll see a lot of gray and white hair. I just recently
attended some activity and noticed there was a lot of gray and white
hair in the room, just can't recall what or where it was. What was
it we were discussing.....
jerb
At 05:00 PM 3/19/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
>There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older
>Pilots are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." It's an AP feed
>by Ryan Pearson, and, in my opinion, is badly biased and very
>slanted. Makes me want badly to bloody his nose. Take a look in
>your own local newspapers, or look at www.thedesertsun.com and
>scroll way down to the "California" section, the 2nd bullet.
>
>Larry Bourne
>Palm Springs, CA
>Building Kolb Mk III
>N78LB Vamoose
>www.gogittum.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol/Gasoline Mixture |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Dave,
I have the same choice and I have tried both. LL100 costs over a dollar more than
auto gas, and it fouls the plugs in 20 hours. Currently, I am using auto gas
with 10% ethonal. At least I have oil injection. That might help some.
--------
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Ayuh............prob'ly not too old to bash 'em, but I'll be in trouble if'n
they decide to bash back......... :-) Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Older Pilots
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
>
> Hi,
> I read the same thing, but however while you may not be too old to
> fly,( you may be when you finally get Vamoose done) you are definitely too
> old to be bashing any body in the nose.
> yer friend
> Larry Oregon
>
> Do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> To: <Kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 3:00 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Older Pilots
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>
>> There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older Pilots
>> are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." It's an AP feed by Ryan
>> Pearson, and, in my opinion, is badly biased and very slanted. Makes me
>> want badly to bloody his nose. Take a look in your own local newspapers,
>> or look at www.thedesertsun.com and scroll way down to the "California"
>> section, the 2nd bullet.
>>
>> Larry Bourne
>> Palm Springs, CA
>> Building Kolb Mk III
>> N78LB Vamoose
>> www.gogittum.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
What...? ...bolder violets are bashing abortioned Humbers....?? issat
what you said, sonny....?
stop mumblin.... never liked Humbers anyway... lousy cars... mine burned
oil...
Say, ain't you the guy with the wierd lawn furniture in yer carport...?
Kinda looks like
part of an airplane, but older.....?
Speak up.... where are you anyway...? keep talkin', I'll find ye......
...bolder violets, eh....
say... which way to the airstrip.....?
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older Pilots
are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Just scroll on down the 1st page and watch for it.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "russ kinne" <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Older Pilots
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
>
> Don't see anything called the " CALIFORNIA SECTION"
> Where it is?
> do not archive
>
> On Mar 19, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Larry Bourne wrote:
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>
>> There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older
>> Pilots are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." It's an AP feed
>> by Ryan Pearson, and, in my opinion, is badly biased and very
>> slanted. Makes me want badly to bloody his nose. Take a look in
>> your own local newspapers, or look at www.thedesertsun.com and
>> scroll way down to the "California" section, the 2nd bullet.
>>
>> Larry Bourne
>> Palm Springs, CA
>> Building Kolb Mk III
>> N78LB Vamoose
>> www.gogittum.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | VIDEO OF KOLB ON SKIS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Hi Gang
This is a Firestar II on skis.
I recorded this video in 1998 of my friend Aaron Gustafson taking off and landing
on his snow covered runway. We do a lot of ski flying in the Upper Peninsula
of Michigan.
P.S. Aaron has this plane for sale, and his e-mail address is:
agustafson@chartermi.net
Do Not Archive
--------
Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=22765#22765
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| Subject: | Re: VIDEO OF KOLB ON SKIS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
At 10:28 PM 3/19/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
>
>Hi Gang
>This is a Firestar II on skis.
>I recorded this video in 1998 of my friend Aaron Gustafson taking
>off and landing on his snow covered runway. We do a lot of ski
>flying in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
And how do the brakes work on that bad boy ... or do you have an anchor?
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Older Pilots
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
This is what I've been getting all evening...................
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <biglar@gogittum.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 7:13 PM
Subject: NOT DELIVERED - To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> - Subject: Re:
Kolb-List: Older Pilots
> The message you sent was regarded as junk e-mail by the recipient's email
> server.
>
> To help ensure delivery make sure you are on the recipient's known address
> list.
>
> Thank You.
>
> Original Message Contained:
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Just scroll on down the 1st page and watch for it.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "russ kinne" <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Older Pilots
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
>>
>> Don't see anything called the " CALIFORNIA SECTION"
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Well, I just wrote a letter to the editor of that rag, and this is what I
said:
"Ryan Pearson's article about older pilots crashing in disproportionate
numbers is balderdash. Younger pilots don't fly as many hours as older
pilots, because it usually more affordable for older and more affluent
pilots to fly more often. So the comparison should be comparing number of
hours flown. I think you'd see proportionate numbers. This is strictly
yellow journalism, making something out of nothing just to sensationalize,
with the result of making the insurance companies worry... for no good
reason. Who suffers? Older pilots, in disproportionate numbers."
On 3/19/06, Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com> wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older Pilots
> are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." It's an AP feed by Ryan Pearson,
> and, in my opinion, is badly biased and very slanted. Makes me want badly
> to bloody his nose. Take a look in your own local newspapers, or look at
> www.thedesertsun.com and scroll way down to the "California" section, the
> 2nd bullet.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Land Shorter VG's on Firestar II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
John Jung,
The interval between the two VG's in a pair is 2.75 inches, and between pairs is
3.00 inches. I think the one inch distance from the LE may make a pretty big
difference in the stall. Power off or on with from a pitch attitude of level
flight (bleeding airspeed attempting to hold a constant altitude to the break),
the nose drops at least 20 degrees. If you have any rudder or a bank at the
stall, the wing will drop in the direction of bank or rudder input. I get
the feeling you could spin it, but so far have not been tempted to test that aspect
of Firestar flight.
John H,
The Firestar gear limits the angle of attack of the wing in a three point landing.
Most landings seem to touch down near 35, although I have made a few tailwheel
first landings a bit slower. I think ground effect may temper the stall
a bit close to the ground. I find that I'm doing a lot less stick stirring doing
landing, as the response is quicker and less mushy. I'm sure you could get
in trouble with a flare six feet (or more) in the air. Instead mushing into
the ground in a level attitude, I think the nose would drop. My opinion is
that an experienced pilot would have no trouble with the VG's, but a pilot new
to Kolbs should probably get some time with the standard wing before adding VG's.
--------
Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| Subject: | Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
All,
I am aware of this issue. These messages are *not* coming from Matronics. They
are coming from someone subscribed to the Pietenpol-List (and a number of others,
such as the Kitfox-list and Kolb-List) and who has some Spam filtering software
mis-configured. The problem I'm having is that my posts to the List don't
seem to cause me to get one of the bounces.
I need to dissect in detail the full headers of one of these messages to determine
(hopefully) where they are actually coming from. If someone that has received
one of these could forward me a complete copy of the message including all
of the headers (in Unix email format with all of the "Received: " lines intact),
hopefully I can get this guy removed from the List.
Sorry for the hassle,
Matt Dralle
Matronics List Admin
At 08:31 PM 3/19/2006 Sunday, Catdesign wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" <catdesign@intergate.com>
>
>Yep that's the thing I keep getting. I'll send an email to Matt and see what's
going on.
>
>Chris Tracy
>Sacramento, Ca
>Do Not Archive
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
>To: "Pietenpol- List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:27 PM
>Subject: Fw: NOT DELIVERED - To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> - Subject: Re:
Pietenpol-List: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error
>
>
>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: <carbarvo@knology.net>
>>To: <carbarvo@knology.net>
>>Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 3:26 PM
>>Subject: NOT DELIVERED - To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> - Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:
Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error
>>
>>
>>>The message you sent was regarded as junk e-mail by the recipient's email server.
>>>
>>>To help ensure delivery make sure you are on the recipient's known address list.
>>>
>>>Thank You.
>>>
>>>Original Message Contained:
>>>
>>>
>>>YEP...Happened to me a couple of days ago when I attached a picture of Lowell
Frank's Warner powered Piet to my posting. The posting made it, but I got the
"no delivery" notice..Carl Vought
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Catdesign
>>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 2:54 PM
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error
>>>
>>>
>>> Lately, when I post to the list I get a NOT DELIVERED email message saying
the message I just sent was undeliverable but I know it is making it to the list.
Anyone else have this happening?
>>>
>>> Chris Tracy
>>> Sacramento, Ca
>>>
>>> Do not archive
>>>
>>>[[HTML Version removed]]
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Windshield |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
If that is the original factory supplied windshield, then you can take out
the center bar. It is tough enough to take any speed that you are likely to
go with no distortion.
Larry, Oregon
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <Tom463@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:23 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar II Windshield
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Tom463@aol.com
>
> I recently purchased a Firestar II with the full enclosure and I do NOT
> like
> the center tube in front of my face. I need the full enclosure due to
> health reasons. Any suggestions on SAFE methods to remove the obstruction
> and
> still maintain the stability of the windshield?
>
>
>
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