Kolb-List Digest Archive

Tue 03/21/06


Total Messages Posted: 6



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 08:53 AM - Ethanol/Gasoline Mixture (boyd)
     2. 11:09 AM - Jabiru (ray anderson)
     3. 06:24 PM - Stits products (planecrazzzy)
     4. 07:50 PM - Re: Jabiru (Dennis Souder)
     5. 09:05 PM - Re: Jabiru (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
     6. 09:45 PM - Re: Jabiru (JetPilot)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:53:27 AM PST US
    From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: Ethanol/Gasoline Mixture
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net> Interesting idea, Boyd. I wonder if the water grabs all the alcohol, or leaves some behind. I remember reading about this test 15 or 20 years ago in Untralight Flying magazine when "gasohol" was the rage. Actually, the idea of using a 50 gallon drum to separate out a supply of real gas might just work. So, the question remains about what to do with the ethanol/water mixture left over? Could you drink it? Perhaps you could sell it to the "Sea Foam" company? -------- Dave Bigelow Kamuela, Hawaii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be quite sure the ethanol would be de natured. So I would not drink it. maybe you could sell it back to the gas station. however a contract with the fine folks at SF would be good if the shipping cost did not run more than the purchase price. maybe they could find a use for it. Seriously,,, the amount of alcohol it would remove would depend on the contact time and the level of mixing. If you could pick up the container and give it a good shake I am sure it would separate faster/more completely. I have thought that if you could find a half gallon of 10% ethanol gas and pour into 16 gal of gas dropping the % of ethanol to less than 1%. That way it would remove any condensation that may have accumulated in the fuel system. And hopefully it would not affect the components in the carb. Boyd


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    Time: 11:09:08 AM PST US
    From: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Jabiru
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com> Just a bit of trivia. For you guys that have given any thought to the Jabiru engine. Down at their facility here at the Shelbyville airport, they released sales figures for 2005 and 45 aircraft have been assembled and flown away by happy owners in the year. They have one model using the 120 HP engine that cruises at 185 mph. Their 85 HP is getting a good play also. Back logged now on new orders and asking the airport for larger space.There should be a KOLB usage somewhere in there. Can't use one on the UltraStar I'm afraid. Ray Tenn ..UltraStar do not archive --------------------------------- Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.


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    Time: 06:24:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Stits products
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> I found a site that shows ALOT of places that sells Stits Products.... There's a place just down the road from me ( saves shipping ) http://www.polyfiber.com/where/ Gotta Fly... Mike in MN N381PM . . . -------- The more people I know.... The more I like MY DOG . . . . .Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=23320#23320 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/mikes_plane_1__920.jpg


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    Time: 07:50:58 PM PST US
    From: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
    Subject: Jabiru
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net> Well, it would be lighter than a Soobie, and who says you need to use full power anyway? Dennis Just a bit of trivia. For you guys that have given any thought to the Jabiru engine ... Can't use one on the UltraStar I'm afraid. Ray Tenn ..UltraStar do not archive


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    Time: 09:05:38 PM PST US
    From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <neilsenrmf@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Jabiru
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <neilsenrmf@comcast.net> Ray There is a reason we don't see many Jabiru's on Kolbs. They just don't have the thrust to make a Kolb a great STOL airplane. They are really great engines and maybe a 85 HP Jabiru on a smaller Kolb or a 120 on a MKIII or Kolbra might work but why not use a reduction drive engine that would produce the same thrust at lower weight and use less fuel. It takes a lot more horse power to produce the same thrust when your engine is turning the prop in the 3000 plus RPM range. I flew my Kolb MKIII for four years with a direct drive VW. The plane flew but just didn't have that effort less climb out and spirited overall performance that you get with a high thrust engine. The same engine with a reduction drive (an apples to apples comparison) transformed my MKIIIc from a OK airplane to a KOLB. Put a reduction drive on a Jabiru and you might have some serious competition for Rotax. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: "ray anderson" <rsanoa@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:06 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Jabiru > --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com> > > Just a bit of trivia. For you guys that have given any thought to the > Jabiru engine. Down at their facility here at the Shelbyville airport, > they released sales figures for 2005 and 45 aircraft have been assembled > and flown away by happy owners in the year. They have one model using the > 120 HP engine that cruises at 185 mph. Their 85 HP is getting a good play > also. Back logged now on new orders and asking the airport for larger > space.There should be a KOLB usage somewhere in there. > > Can't use one on the UltraStar I'm afraid. > Ray > Tenn ..UltraStar > do not archive > > > --------------------------------- > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > >


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    Time: 09:45:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Jabiru
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com> You could not give me the Jabiru engine. Just looking at it and it looks like it has been machined and manufactured in someones garage. The technology used in that engine is downright primitive compared to the Rotax 912-S. Reading reports from owners, the Jabiru has a lot more problems than the Rotax 912-S. There are lots of disadvantages to the Jabiru, and I cant find even one thing that engine does better than the Rotax. -------- NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=23353#23353




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