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1. 01:39 AM - Re: Spring Maintenance/Stock Performance (pat ladd)
2. 04:10 AM - Gas tank pick-up (Lanny Fetterman)
3. 04:52 AM - Re: Gas tank pick-up (robert bean)
4. 05:15 AM - Re: Gas tank pick-up (Eugene Zimmerman)
5. 06:28 AM - Re: Spring Maintenance/Stock Performance (John Hauck)
6. 07:38 AM - Re: Older Pilots (JetPilot)
7. 08:19 AM - Re: Land Shorter VG's on Firestar II (JetPilot)
8. 09:00 AM - Re: Re: Land Shorter VG's on Firestar II (John Hauck)
9. 09:15 AM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (ray anderson)
10. 10:05 AM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (Robert Noyer)
11. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (John Adamson)
12. 10:17 AM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (Eugene Zimmerman)
13. 10:24 AM - Re: Gas tank pick-up (Robert Noyer)
14. 10:25 AM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (Ed Chmielewski)
15. 10:30 AM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (Ed Chmielewski)
16. 10:47 AM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (Eugene Zimmerman)
17. 10:47 AM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (ray anderson)
18. 11:06 AM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (Jack B. Hart)
19. 11:29 AM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (John Hauck)
20. 12:04 PM - Re: Older Pilots (Ed in JXN)
21. 12:09 PM - Re: Gas tank pick-up (John Jung)
22. 02:13 PM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (Robert Noyer)
23. 02:21 PM - Re: Gas tank pick-up (planecrazzzy)
24. 02:54 PM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (John Hauck)
25. 04:15 PM - Wheel to wheel dimension - Mark IIIC (John Bickham)
26. 04:29 PM - Re: Wheel to wheel dimension - Mark IIIC (John Hauck)
27. 04:29 PM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (Larry Bourne)
28. 06:39 PM - Re: Re: Gas tank pick-up (Eugene Zimmerman)
29. 07:17 PM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (Ed Chmielewski)
30. 07:20 PM - Re: Re: Older Pilots (Ed Chmielewski)
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| Subject: | Re: Spring Maintenance/Stock Performance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
It climbs full power as slow as 22 mph indicated..... The airspeed
fluctuates from 22 to 35 mph.>>
Hi John,
Very much `indicated`. I guess your ASI must be blanketed by the nose high
attitude and not reading accurately. I don`t think many planes would stay
in the air at 22 mph.
No wonder you don`t want VG`s. You have your own personal skyhook.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Gas tank pick-up |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net>
Hi Ed and all, I put my pick-ups toward the front, because as you say, if I
am that low on fuel, I figure I will be in a decent to land. Lanny
Fetterman Firestar II N598LF Do not archive P.S. To
this date I have never allowed myself to get that low on
fuel!
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| Subject: | Re: Gas tank pick-up |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
My vote is toward the back of the tank. Running out in a climb
would (for me anyway) be more disturbing than when already
descending.
This year I may actually try out the second tank using the
pull-through plumbing. Curious if it works.
-BB
MkIIIc, suzuki
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On 23, Mar 2006, at 11:50 PM, DAquaNut@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
> Group,
>
> Can anyone tell me from experience which will provide the most
> useable
> fuel from the tank of a firefly. The pick up tube in the front, OR in
> the back
> of the tank? Seems the front position would be best, but It seems
> inertia
> would push the gas to the back. But, then again if you were getting
> low and
> started down it would seem the gas would gravitate forward. Which is
> better
> forward in the tank or the back?
>
> Ed
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gas tank pick-up |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
On Mar 24, 2006, at 7:51 AM, robert bean wrote:
> This year I may actually try out the second tank using the
> pull-through plumbing. Curious if it works.
It works. First tank stays full until the second is empty.
The only exception is with short hops and lots of starts and stops.
Each time you restart in must use a small amount from the first tank
to build up enough vacuum before it begins to draw from the second tank.
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| Subject: | Re: Spring Maintenance/Stock Performance |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| No wonder you don`t want VG`s.
| Pat
I wasn't flying with GPS, unfortunately. Next time I fly, I will try
to remember to put it in the airplane. It will tell me what I am
moving across the ground, but not accurate speed at the angle I am
flying. Feels like the space shuttle. This, of course, is with the
stick in the full aft position, back to the stop.
Gathering flight data in a Kolb, especially touch down speeds, is a
very unexacting science.
The nice thing about Kolbs though, is it doesn't have to be exacting.
It can be fun.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
biglar wrote:
> There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older Pilots are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." It's an AP feed by Ryan Pearson, and, in my opinion, is badly biased and very slanted. Makes me want badly to bloody his nose. Take a look in your own local newspapers, or look at www.thedesertsun.com and scroll way down to the "California" section, the 2nd bullet.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
It is a well known fact that pilots slow down and make more mistakes as we get
older. As people get older their minds slow down and they are not as quick to
react and cannot process information as quickly as when they were young, which
is critical to flying. This is somewhat offset by experience, but not enough
to balance the equation. It is no suprise that older pilots have a higher accident
rate. That is why airline pilots have a mandatory retirement age of
60.
The only dissapointing thing here is that we have someone responding with denial
and violence instead of recognizing a problem and comming up with ways to minimize
the effects of this.
Michael A. Bigelow
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NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=23933#23933
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| Subject: | Re: Land Shorter VG's on Firestar II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
John Jung wrote:
>
> Dave and I are both flying Firestar II's with similar wings, aft CG's, LandShorter
VGs and only on inch difference in placement, yet we have very different
descriptions of the change in flight/stall charactoristics. About the only thing
we agree on is that we like the plane better than without VGs. This problem
of inconsistancy of described results is one of the reasons that it took me
so many years to try VGs. I will continue to test them and do my best to report
the results.
>
>
I have a bag of LandShorter VG's and the same questions about the best place on
the wing to put them. I am sure that they will be an improvement even if I
dont get them in the perfect spot the first time.
Eventually we could find the optimum spot for the Kolb wing if we all do some testing,
and post exactly where we put the VG's and post our results.
Michael A. Bigelow
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NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Land Shorter VG's on Firestar II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
I am sure that they will be an improvement even if I dont get them in
the perfect spot the first time.
|
| Eventually we could find the optimum spot for the Kolb wing if we
all do some testing, and post exactly where we put the VG's and post
our results.
|
| Michael A. Bigelow
If I were to decide to use VG's on my MKIII I would start
experimentation with the VG's placed as suggested by the VG
manufacturer. Tests would proceed from this base. When I was
satisfied I could not find a better place to install them permanently,
that I had them placed for optimum performance, then I'd stick'em.
Even then, I may stick'em semi-permanent in case I wanted to further
experimentation.
Will the placement of Joe Blow's VG's on his Kolb work exactly the
same way on my Kolb??? Have no idea. Think I mentioned in a previous
post, "Flight testing a Kolb is not an exacting science, especially
when the test pilots are from the "Kolb Gang". ;-)
While I am suggesting, might add: "Learn to fly the Kolb well,
especially prior to making aerodynamic changes." You may find out you
don't need them, or you may find out you do.
For what it is worth.
john h
MKIII 2,448.2 hrs
912ULS 1,102.3 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Unfortunately the articles don't take into account the number of hours each group
flies annually. Older pilots usually are financially able to fly many more
hours yearly because of more time and money. Younger ones can't spend as much
time or money as the older. So any meaningful comparison should be based on accidents
per hours flown. I'd bet it would be about equal.
Ray
UltraStar
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JetPilot <orcabonita@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot"
biglar wrote:
> There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older Pilots are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." It's an AP feed by Ryan Pearson, and, in my opinion, is badly biased and very slanted. Makes me want badly to bloody his nose. Take a look in your own local newspapers, or look at www.thedesertsun.com and scroll way down to the "California" section, the 2nd bullet.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
It is a well known fact that pilots slow down and make more mistakes as we get
older. As people get older their minds slow down and they are not as quick to
react and cannot process information as quickly as when they were young, which
is critical to flying. This is somewhat offset by experience, but not enough
to balance the equation. It is no suprise that older pilots have a higher accident
rate. That is why airline pilots have a mandatory retirement age of 60.
The only dissapointing thing here is that we have someone responding with denial
and violence instead of recognizing a problem and comming up with ways to minimize
the effects of this.
Michael A. Bigelow
--------
NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=23933#23933
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
Article in ZD Net News ( http://news.zdnet.com/
2100-9595_22-6053430.html?tag=nl.e589 ) about age vs. brain speed.
Young'ns in 20s have auditory processing speed of 68 msec, 40s---87,
and OFs of 80s slog along at 106 msec.
Geez!
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Adamson <j-adamson@tamu.edu>
To add to Ray's observation: If it's true that older pilots have more
financial resources (which I suspect it is), then they probably have
more expensive (read higher performance) airplanes to fly. "Higher
performance" would _seem_ to go along with "higher accident rates". So
now we can look not just at accidents per hours flown but at hours flown
in type.
The key premise of the article, though, was that older pilots are
crashing in _disproportionate_ numbers. I don't believe it's
disproportionate at all. Older pilots are the biggest percentage of the
pilot population. If they crash in exactly the numbers proportional to
their percentage of the pilot population, they'd have the most
accidents. If they crash in _fewer_ numbers than is represented by
their percentage of the pilot population, maybe that's a function of
their experience and judgement.
In any case, these are some ways of looking at the problem - looking at
some data - rather than making blanket generalizations like Mr. Jet
Pilot seems to prefer. Or am I being too "violent" here? :-)
As for Mr. Jet Pilot's concern with "recognizing a problem and comming
(sic) up with ways to minimize the effects", I believe that's being done
all the time. That's why they let old guys fly fighters today whereas,
50 years ago, a 35-year-old was considered a little long in the tooth.
A 60-year-old today (or a 40- or a 50-, for that matter) isn't the same
"old guy" as was the case in, say, 1950. Which is also, by the way, why
the Age 60 Rule has outlived its usefulness and is constantly being
challenged: It ain't based on current research!
John Adamson
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ray anderson wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
>
>Unfortunately the articles don't take into account the number of hours each group
flies annually. Older pilots usually are financially able to fly many more
hours yearly because of more time and money. Younger ones can't spend as much
time or money as the older. So any meaningful comparison should be based on accidents
per hours flown. I'd bet it would be about equal.
> Ray
> UltraStar
> do not archive
>
>JetPilot <orcabonita@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot"
>
>
>biglar wrote:
>
>
>>There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older Pilots are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." It's an AP feed by Ryan Pearson, and, in my opinion, is badly biased and very slanted. Makes me want badly to bloody his nose. Take a look in your own local newspapers, or look at www.thedesertsun.com and scroll way down to the "California" section, the 2nd bullet.
>>
>>Larry Bourne
>>Palm Springs, CA
>>Building Kolb Mk III
>>N78LB Vamoose
>>www.gogittum.com
>>
>>
>
>
>It is a well known fact that pilots slow down and make more mistakes as we get
older. As people get older their minds slow down and they are not as quick to
react and cannot process information as quickly as when they were young, which
is critical to flying. This is somewhat offset by experience, but not enough
to balance the equation. It is no suprise that older pilots have a higher accident
rate. That is why airline pilots have a mandatory retirement age of 60.
>
>The only dissapointing thing here is that we have someone responding with denial
and violence instead of recognizing a problem and comming up with ways to minimize
the effects of this.
>
>Michael A. Bigelow
>
>--------
>NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=23933#23933
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
On Mar 24, 2006, at 10:36 AM, JetPilot wrote:
> It is a well known fact that pilots slow down and make more
> mistakes as we get older. As people get older their minds slow
> down and they are not as quick to react and cannot process
> information as quickly as when they were young, which is critical
> to flying. This is somewhat offset by experience, but not enough
> to balance the equation. It is no suprise that older pilots have a
> higher accident rate.
Michael,
Your notions are easily countered by the facts as they present
themselves here on the Kolb list.
John Hauck made more mistakes and had more accidents before he was 60
years old than He did after he was 60.
What is true for him is true for most pilots who have over thirty
years experience flying Kolbs.
JetPilots could be an exception though.
:-)
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| Subject: | Re: Gas tank pick-up |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
Unless you were dec/accelerating, the level would remain constant.
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Michael,
Statistics can be used to explain both sides of an argument. I
don't recall a single accident review (in 30 years of reading them) where
the pilot's age was a primary or contributory factor. Health and poor
judgement, yes. But those factors show up in all age groups. Attitude and
experience trump age IMO.
You and I both fly a lot in our careers. When was the last time you
had to have lightning-fast reflexes and process info quicker than an IBM to
save the day? The data shows that the guy who jumps when something happens
is much more likely to make the wrong move. The crusty old Captain on his
last checkride before retirement still passes quite easily. He's been doing
it his entire career, reviewed twice a year, and can nearly do so in his
sleep. The last thing I need is someone who makes a hair-trigger movement
or judgement during a critical phase of flight. Your statement "This is
somewhat offset by experience, but not enough to balance the equation." is
ludicrous and not supported by any factual data. If it were, the age-60
rule would not have the proposed increase to 65 as it recently has. Just
curious, how old are you?
As far as non-commercial, sport, ultralight, rec. pilot ops, there's
been no noted demarcation as to age and performance. Same as the general
populace, some are sharp in their older years, most are average, some become
slow and get dangerous. We had a local pilot examiner (ex-Western Airlines
Captain) who stopped recently at age 80. Still didn't wear glasses. I have
an 83-year-old client who still flies his Cessna 340 single-pilot. Most of
the older pilots I know become more cautious with age. Part of the maturing
process, with a bunch of self-preservation mixed in.
Don't knock the wisdom-with-age thing 'til you've tried it.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 10:36 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Older Pilots
>
> It is a well known fact that pilots slow down and make more mistakes as we
> get older. As people get older their minds slow down and they are not as
> quick to react and cannot process information as quickly as when they were
> young, which is critical to flying. This is somewhat offset by
> experience, but not enough to balance the equation. It is no suprise that
> older pilots have a higher accident rate. That is why airline pilots
> have a mandatory retirement age of 60.
>
(Snip)
> Michael A. Bigelow
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=23933#23933
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Hi Bob,
I suppose that's great for funny-car drivers, but nothing I do needs
that speed. Unless it's movin' in on a babe at the bar!
Ed in JXN
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Noyer" <a58r@verizon.net>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Older Pilots
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
>
> Article in ZD Net News ( http://news.zdnet.com/
> 2100-9595_22-6053430.html?tag=nl.e589 ) about age vs. brain speed.
> Young'ns in 20s have auditory processing speed of 68 msec, 40s---87,
> and OFs of 80s slog along at 106 msec.
>
> Geez!
>
>
> regards,
> Bob N.
> http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
On Mar 24, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Ed Chmielewski wrote:
> Don't knock the wisdom-with-age thing 'til you've tried it.
S-mile wide truth there, Ed.
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| Subject: | Re: Older Pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
I have to face up to it. Pretty soon I guess I too will reach that stage where
I'll be counted among the "older" pilots. But I can say, flying since 1935, and
still looking for my first accident, at 88 I believe I can handle my car and
airplane as safely as the really young.
Ray
UltraStar
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John Adamson <j-adamson@tamu.edu> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Adamson
To add to Ray's observation: If it's true that older pilots have more
financial resources (which I suspect it is), then they probably have
more expensive (read higher performance) airplanes to fly. "Higher
performance" would _seem_ to go along with "higher accident rates". So
now we can look not just at accidents per hours flown but at hours flown
in type.
The key premise of the article, though, was that older pilots are
crashing in _disproportionate_ numbers. I don't believe it's
disproportionate at all. Older pilots are the biggest percentage of the
pilot population. If they crash in exactly the numbers proportional to
their percentage of the pilot population, they'd have the most
accidents. If they crash in _fewer_ numbers than is represented by
their percentage of the pilot population, maybe that's a function of
their experience and judgement.
In any case, these are some ways of looking at the problem - looking at
some data - rather than making blanket generalizations like Mr. Jet
Pilot seems to prefer. Or am I being too "violent" here? :-)
As for Mr. Jet Pilot's concern with "recognizing a problem and comming
(sic) up with ways to minimize the effects", I believe that's being done
all the time. That's why they let old guys fly fighters today whereas,
50 years ago, a 35-year-old was considered a little long in the tooth.
A 60-year-old today (or a 40- or a 50-, for that matter) isn't the same
"old guy" as was the case in, say, 1950. Which is also, by the way, why
the Age 60 Rule has outlived its usefulness and is constantly being
challenged: It ain't based on current research!
John Adamson
do not archive
ray anderson wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson
>
>Unfortunately the articles don't take into account the number of hours each group
flies annually. Older pilots usually are financially able to fly many more
hours yearly because of more time and money. Younger ones can't spend as much
time or money as the older. So any meaningful comparison should be based on accidents
per hours flown. I'd bet it would be about equal.
> Ray
> UltraStar
> do not archive
>
>JetPilot wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot"
>
>
>biglar wrote:
>
>
>>There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older Pilots are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." It's an AP feed by Ryan Pearson, and, in my opinion, is badly biased and very slanted. Makes me want badly to bloody his nose. Take a look in your own local newspapers, or look at www.thedesertsun.com and scroll way down to the "California" section, the 2nd bullet.
>>
>>Larry Bourne
>>Palm Springs, CA
>>Building Kolb Mk III
>>N78LB Vamoose
>>www.gogittum.com
>>
>>
>
>
>It is a well known fact that pilots slow down and make more mistakes as we get
older. As people get older their minds slow down and they are not as quick to
react and cannot process information as quickly as when they were young, which
is critical to flying. This is somewhat offset by experience, but not enough
to balance the equation. It is no suprise that older pilots have a higher accident
rate. That is why airline pilots have a mandatory retirement age of 60.
>
>The only dissapointing thing here is that we have someone responding with denial
and violence instead of recognizing a problem and comming up with ways to minimize
the effects of this.
>
>Michael A. Bigelow
>
>--------
>NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!!
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=23933#23933
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
At 12:06 PM 3/24/06 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Adamson <j-adamson@tamu.edu>
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John, & Kolbers,
The Civil Aeromedical Institute in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma has studied
"Pilot Age and Accident Rates Report 4: An Analysis of Professional ATP
and Commercial Pilot Accident Rates by Age."
It can be found at:
http://www.faa.gov/library/reports/medical/age60/media/age60_4.pdf
What is really interesting is a chart found on the bottom of page 30. It
shows accident rate for all pilots normalized to 100,000 annual fight hours
flown. For all commercial pilots between ages 30 to 60 the accident rate is
pretty much level and low. Then for the pilots over 60 the rate starts to
increase.
But what is really interesting is that accident rate for pilots less than 30
years of age increase as age decreases. This shows that they are still
learning how to become mature safe pilots until age 30?
Unfortunately there is no data for pilots older than 63, who a lot of us
consider to be mature.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
of us
| consider to be mature.
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| Jack B. Hart FF004
I get a BFR every two years to see if I can still fly and understand
the rules. Other than that, it will be up to me to decide when to
quit. That will probably be when it ceases to be fun or it becomes
uncomfortable.
If I can still be puttering around the airstrip with my little Kolb at
Ray Anderson's age, I would be extremely grateful. Hopefully, there
won't be a bunch of bureaucrats hanging around grading my performance,
trying to ground me for having so much fun.
Come April 8, I'll be 67 years old. Feel very grateful that I am
still fortunate to be able to fly my own airplane off my little green
airstrip. Back in the early days of Sun and Fun, used to hate to fly
down there because of all the rules and supervision. Was a drastic
change from aviation life back home on the farm.
About the only serious plans I have for the future are to fly back to
Barrow, Alaska, summer of 2009, at the ripe old age of 70. I did
alright at 65. Flew shorter days, took time to smell the fireweed and
arctic cotton, ate a lot of halibut, and visited folks and places a
lot more. At 70 I should be able to do the same thing even slower and
more enjoyable.
When I first got into ultralight aviation there was a 70 year old
gentleman that flew a Pioneer Flightstar across the US, solo and no
ground support. Never figured I would see the day that I could do
that. Maybe I will be able to also.
Take care,
john h
MKIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed in JXN" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
> Come April 8, I'll be 67 years old. Feel very grateful that I am
> still fortunate to be able to fly my own airplane off my little green
> airstrip.
Hauck's comments on older pilots should, of course, not be taken seriously. It
is widely believed that he is either (A) a freak of nature, or (B) an alien lifeform
sent here to gain valuable knowledge on interstellar commerce and the
unique properties of Seafoam.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
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| Subject: | Re: Gas tank pick-up |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
DAquaNut(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> Which is better forward in the tank or the back?
> Ed
Ed,
I say the front of the tank because in normal flight the tail is high with the
boom tube slanting toward the front.
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John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
Ed, if you mention S@#F*&% again, I'll pay Matt to ship yer asterisk
off to the FLY-UL hangar list!!!!
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
FUEL "PICK-UP"..........Mine are FRONT and REAR - "LEFT Side"
Because most "patterns" are LEFT
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN / N381PM
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The more people I know....
The more I like MY DOG
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Hauck's comments on older pilots should, of course, not be taken
seriously. |
| Ed in JXN
Hell, I'm just a puppy on this List. Ray Anderson was Moses pilot,
and Bob Noyer test flew for Leonardo De Vinci.
Besides, I was a late bloomer. Didn't solo until I was 29. Would
have love to have started flying when I was a kid.
JP4 and avgas makes us last longer. Don't know about Seafoam, but I
did see a can of it in a auto parts store in Mongomery, Alabama,
recently. However, I was able to resist in buying it.
john h
MKIII
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| Subject: | Wheel to wheel dimension - Mark IIIC |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
Hello List,
I have been working on some new gear legs for my Mark IIIC. I've welded them up
and fitted them.
Before I drill the holes for the axles I wanted to see if I was close to the right
dimension for the distance from the outside to outside of the wheel. Problem
is my old gear legs are bent so bad it is hard to be sure.
I searched the archives and found I response to Larry B from Richard Pike. Richard
had a distance of 76" from outside of wheel to outside of wheel.
If any of you walk by your plane and could measure the wheel to wheel distance
I would appreciate it. I'm kinda doing this in the "true experimental" spirit
as far as a my experience level goes. Just checking. I am a bit interested
in what the variations are in this distance, if there is any, among all the MarkIIIC's.
Maybe everyone is right at 76".
I'm close to 78" with the axle flush against the sleeve. You will notice that
there is ~7 degree camber in the wheels. I'm not sure if it is positive or negative.
Not an expert. That is what Jim Hauck recommended. I've read a few complaints
about the factory gear sitting ugly with weight and a few firm landings.
Mine should be close to straight once I've done my little drop ins. Gives
me room to work! Kinda like the look better.
Thanks in advance.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C
Using my Repairman Certificate
St. Francisville, LA
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
close to the right dimension for the distance from the outside to
outside of the wheel. Kinda like the look better.
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| John Bickham
Looks great to me. I like a lot of positive camber.
As far as track is concerned??? I don't think it makes a lot of
difference. My gear is probably a foot wider than standark MKIIIc.
Helps me keep the wings level when I ground loop. ;-)
Recommend using two 1/4" bolts in each axle socket. When I put on my
upgraded brakes, I was using the stand two 3/16" bolts. First time I
taxied down to the end of the strip, used the brake to pivot, I wrung
off the two bolts. That is when I decided to upgrade to 1/4.
Gonna be a good looking, good flying MKIIIc. Already been initiated,
so don't have to do that anymore.
john h
MKIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Good Lord ! ! !
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:36 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Older Pilots
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>
>
> biglar wrote:
>> There's an article on page A15 in todays Desert Sun about "Older Pilots
>> are Crashing in Disproportionate Numbers." It's an AP feed by Ryan
>> Pearson, and, in my opinion, is badly biased and very slanted. Makes me
>> want badly to bloody his nose. Take a look in your own local newspapers,
>> or look at www.thedesertsun.com and scroll way down to the "California"
>> section, the 2nd bullet.
>>
>> Larry Bourne
>> Palm Springs, CA
>> Building Kolb Mk III
>> N78LB Vamoose
>> www.gogittum.com
>
>
> It is a well known fact that pilots slow down and make more mistakes as we
> get older. As people get older their minds slow down and they are not as
> quick to react and cannot process information as quickly as when they were
> young, which is critical to flying. This is somewhat offset by
> experience, but not enough to balance the equation. It is no suprise that
> older pilots have a higher accident rate. That is why airline pilots
> have a mandatory retirement age of 60.
>
> The only dissapointing thing here is that we have someone responding with
> denial and violence instead of recognizing a problem and comming up with
> ways to minimize the effects of this.
>
> Michael A. Bigelow
>
> --------
> NO FEAR - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have
> !!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=23933#23933
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
On Mar 24, 2006, at 5:21 PM, planecrazzzy wrote:
> FUEL "PICK-UP"..........Mine are FRONT and REAR - "LEFT Side"
>
> Because most "patterns" are LEFT
Are you serious?
Fly coordinated and it makes ABSOLUTELY no difference if you bank
left or right .
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
How about if we just call you 'Pleistocene Pilot' then?
Ed in JXN (MI)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Older Pilots
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
> Hell, I'm just a puppy on this List. Ray Anderson was Moses pilot,
> and Bob Noyer test flew for Leonardo De Vinci.
>
(Snip)
> john h
> MKIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
(Promises, promises...sigh...)
He tried. Seems they'd already heard about it though.
Ed in JXN
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Noyer" <a58r@verizon.net>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Older Pilots
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
>
> Ed, if you mention S@#F*&% again, I'll pay Matt to ship yer asterisk
> off to the FLY-UL hangar list!!!!
> regards,
> Bob N.
> http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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