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Fri 04/14/06


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:18 AM - Re: 3/8" Insead of 5/16" (DrHook)
     2. 04:48 AM - Re: Kolb factory participation vs (Thom Riddle)
     3. 06:00 AM - Re: Few Quoestion from a posible Kolber... (John Jung)
     4. 06:03 AM - Kolb engineering (Edward Steuber)
     5. 06:07 AM - Re: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard engineering&quo (Jack B. Hart)
     6. 06:08 AM - R Wing needed for Firestar ()
     7. 08:38 AM - Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (Jack B. Hart)
     8. 08:52 AM - Re: R Wing needed for Firestar (Eugene Zimmerman)
     9. 10:20 AM - Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (Richard Pike)
    10. 10:58 AM - Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (Herb Gayheart)
    11. 11:57 AM - Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (Jack B. Hart)
    12. 02:26 PM - Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (russ kinne)
    13. 05:07 PM - Re: R Wing needed for Firestar (John Jung)
    14. 05:17 PM - Sun 'N Fun (Bill Vincent)
    15. 05:47 PM - Re: Sun 'N Fun (John Hauck)
    16. 06:09 PM - Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ??? (planecrazzzy)
    17. 07:16 PM - New video from Montreal (Noel)
    18. 07:43 PM - Re: Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ??? (Larry Bourne)
    19. 07:53 PM - Fw: New video from Montreal (Bill Vincent)
    20. 08:17 PM - Re: R Wing needed for Firestar (Livair)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:18:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 3/8" Insead of 5/16"
    From: "DrHook" <csgale@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "DrHook" <csgale@yahoo.com> Well, Allrighty then, Looks like I be orderin up some 5/16. Got to get some other supplies and it looks like Wicks, pretty much has it all. Thanks for the advice, Chris -------- Kolb Firestar owner, Rebuild-Recover job at hand. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28326#28326


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    Time: 04:48:19 AM PST US
    From: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Kolb factory participation vs
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net> .... Titan Tornados are also way too small up front.... This statement casts some doubt(at least in my mind) on the accuracy of your "fit in the cockpit" statements on these airplanes. I just sold my Titan Tornado II to a guy who is 6'-2" tall and weighs 260 lb. He was comfortable in the front. The back seat of the non-stretched version of the Tornados is for folks under 170 lb and 5-7" tall. The front has rudder pedals that are adjustable for leg length with a simple turn of a crank while sitting in the pilot's seat. I've heard there is a Titan pilot in South Africa who is 6'-7" and is comfortable in his Titan. I've never met him or corresponded with him about this so it could be a rumor. But the 6-2" and 260 lb is true for sure. Thom in Buffalo do not archive


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    Time: 06:00:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Few Quoestion from a posible Kolber...
    From: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com> Len(at)i5t.co.za wrote: > Hi > > My name is Len, I am still trying to make up my mind between the Kolb Kolbra > and the CGS Hawk Arrow... > > What would be the Maximum prop diameter to use with a 582 and ebox on the > Kolbra? > > Len In case you didn't get a better answer, it's probably 68 to 72 inches. Most of the Kolbs fall in that range. do not archive -------- John Jung Firestar II N6163J Surprise, AZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28347#28347


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    Time: 06:03:02 AM PST US
    From: "Edward Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
    Subject: Kolb engineering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com> Richard Girard , Thanks for the info about modifications after initial certification.... Richar Pike, I don't use Tractor Supply anymore...I go to a " genuine " local aircraft supply...National Aircraft Parts Association...NAPA Ed in Western NY do not archive


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    Time: 06:07:00 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> engineering&quo
    Subject: Re: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard engineering&quo
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> engineering&quo At 08:57 PM 4/12/06 -0700, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jadamson" <j-adamson@tamu.edu> >........................... >I hear you guys talking about the various mods you're doing to your airplanes and I can't help but wonder if they're approved by the engineering types that are still supporting the various Kolb designs. Or if they're just someone's idea of a better mousetrap, however well-intentioned they may be. And the uninformed may grab the idea & run with it, not realizing there's no engineering behind it at all! >........................... John, What would you do if you spent several years building and spending some where around $10,000 and ended up with a ultra light vehicle that was difficult to fly? At cruise, roll control was almost impossible, so I changed from 15 to 9 inch chord ailerons and modified the "T" bar length. Before the change I queried the factory and was told "Its an ultra light, don't fly in the middle of the day". At this point, one can fly it any time of the day and it can be flown off an on the ground in cross winds. The flaperons were useless because the control handle was placed too far forward and low on the right hand side of the cockpit. The control handle could not be reached while wearing a five point harness. Also, there was no way one would change hands on the stick to manipulate them in rough air or on final. I installed new control on the left side under the seat so the throttle hand could adjust the flaperons. This change along with vortex generators, let me three point the FireFly at lower speeds than before. I changed engines so that engine start up can be performed while sitting the cockpit. My right shoulder is a wreck and I am too old to try an get in the cockpit with the engine running and the plane trying to run me down. The engine change was tough, but worth it. Currently, I am consistently cruising at less than two gallons per hour. At this point the FireFly is a joy to fly during any time of the day. I prefer to fly at 2pm when the air is the most active. It goes where it is supposed to go when one displaces the stick and rudder pedals and without complaint (excess if stick or rudder forces). These are the major changes that I have made. Currently the FireFly weighs just under 250 pounds dry. So I have four pounds to use up. And so it goes!!! The good thing about this list is that people report what they do, and others may or may not debate whether the effect is good or bad. But when it comes down to you, you have to assume responsibility for your own aircraft. If you are going to fly it up at Vne etc., you might want to beef it up and accept additional weight degraded performance. To be fair to Kolb, they cannot be held responsible for what others are going to do to their designs. There is no way they could put out the hours that an old retired guy can to check out mods to their design. They would go broke, and this would deprive others of the chance to fly a Kolb design. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 06:08:22 AM PST US
    From: <livair@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: R Wing needed for Firestar
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <livair@bellsouth.net> We need a right wing for a Firestar II? Anybody have an old one reasonably priced? Uncovered and/or minor damage ok. I talked to the factory guys at Sun-N-Fun and they said try this list.


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    Time: 08:38:09 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> Kolbers, Have you or do you know of anyone who has mounted an oxygen sensor on a two stroke engine? Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 08:52:55 AM PST US
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: R Wing needed for Firestar
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net> On Apr 14, 2006, at 9:08 AM, <livair@bellsouth.net> <livair@bellsouth.net> wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: <livair@bellsouth.net> > > We need a right wing for a Firestar II? Anybody have an old one > reasonably > priced? Uncovered and/or minor damage ok. I talked to the factory > guys at Sun-N-Fun and they said try this list. Uh Oh! Sounds like there is a story behind this. You probably should plan to rebuild the wing. A good used wing will be very hard to come by. Sometimes it is surprising how many parts can be salvaged. Wishing you success, Gene


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    Time: 10:20:47 AM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> No, but if some of us get any older, we will be mounting one on the microphone boom, just to monitor how we're doing... Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) PLEASE do not archive Jack B. Hart wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> > > Kolbers, > > Have you or do you know of anyone who has mounted an oxygen sensor on a two > stroke engine? > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:58:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> Jack Wonder how the O2 sensor would handle the oil mix? Herb do not archive On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:18:21 -0400 Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> > Jack B. Hart wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" > <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> > > > > Kolbers, > > > > Have you or do you know of anyone who has mounted an oxygen sensor > on a two > > stroke engine? > > > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > > Winchester, IN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:57:35 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> At 12:55 PM 4/14/06 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> > >Jack > > Wonder how the O2 sensor would handle the oil mix? Herb > Herb, I am using Opti-2 which seems to be a non smoke oil. I have emailed them to ask if their oil would kill an O2 sensor, but I have not recieved a reply. The position for O2 sensor placement has already been predetermined. I placed a second EGT probe down stream from the position recommended by Simoninni. My thought was that if the plugs read rich and the EGT was running at the upper limit maybe a probe down stream would read lower. It did not. It consistently reads 100 degrees F hotter. So when I take off the second EGT sensor, I will weld an O2 sensor adaptor to the pipe at this location. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 02:26:30 PM PST US
    From: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net> Dear middle-aged poops (you ain't old yet!) Good idea about an O2 supply on the mike boom -- after years of swordfish spotting, banner towing, whale surveys, parcel drops & pickups -- I go on O2 at 1000'! -- how could I manage that in a Kolb ? Maybe I'd never fly that high anyway -- Do Not Archive > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> > > No, but if some of us get any older, we will be mounting one on the > microphone boom, just to monitor how we're doing... > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > PLEASE do not archive > > J >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 05:07:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: R Wing needed for Firestar
    From: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com> livair(at)bellsouth.net wrote: > We need a right wing for a Firestar II? Anybody have an old one reasonably > priced? Uncovered and/or minor damage ok. I talked to the factory guys at Sun-N-Fun and they said try this list. If you can't find one, it's not a bad job to build one. It takes two 12 hour days, or one weekend, to build a wing up to covering. do not archive -------- John Jung Firestar II N6163J Surprise, AZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28453#28453


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    Time: 05:17:01 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
    Subject: Sun 'N Fun
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net> Hi John Not much chatter on the Kolb-List regarding Sun 'N Fun ... did I miss out on anything spectacular, like Ultralight Wing Walking etc.? What ever happened to the pilot that used to be at Oshkosh and landed his bi-wing upside down? Bill Vincent Firestar II Upper Peninsula of Michigan Do Not Archive I noticed, flying the airstrip at Sun and Fun this year, my big fat MKIII had tremendous float if I came in a tad hot, which I like to do at Lakeland, based on a severe cross wind, coupled with all the mechanical turbulence generated by other aircraft landing and taking off very close together. That was with full flaps and clean


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    Time: 05:47:48 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun 'N Fun
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> | Not much chatter on the Kolb-List regarding Sun 'N Fun ... did I miss out on anything spectacular, like Ultralight Wing Walking etc.? | | Bill Vincent Hi Bill: Had a nice relaxed week's vacation at S&F. Not much happening. Crowd was down, as were the waiting lines and the UL traffic pattern. I helped out a little by flying my MKIII daily. Dick Rahill flew the yellow FSII. The UL wing walker did her thing during the night airshow. Result was darkness and we could not see anything but the pyrotechnics streaming off the Quicksilver. Most of the folks I see at S&F each year did not show. I did get to see a few of the old standbys. Had a good flight down, 5.0 hours, and a good return flight, 5.5 hours. Direct cross wind both ways. The MKIII and 912ULS performed flawlessly, except when I forgot to turn off my GPS and ran the battery down overnight. Got a jump start next morning and 45 minutes flying got the Hawker Odessey back up to snuff. Was an excellent reminder to make sure everything was turned off prior to exixting the aircraft. Have seen the guy that used to land his Pitts inverted in years. Had forgotten about him until you mentioned it. Tak Take care, john h MKIII/912ULS


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    Time: 06:09:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ???
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> I wish I knew SOMETHING about those VW engines to help you out..... OK , keep pluggin away... . . . Gotta Fly... Mike in MN -------- . . . . .Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28470#28470


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    Time: 07:16:08 PM PST US
    Subject: New video from Montreal
    From: "Noel" <noel@teledata.qc.ca>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel" <noel@teledata.qc.ca> Hello all ! I had a wonderfull flight today ! Spring has "almost" arrived in our northern country ... but the leaves are not really out yet ... I am sending a video made with a camera-phone ... This is a 360 degree over a small town called Oka, located on the Lac des deux montagnes near Montreal. The quality is not the best ... but the scenery is great ! Have a great Easter hollyday ! Noel 1990 Twinstark MKII Rotax 503 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28479#28479 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/_oka2500pi166_209.3gp


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    Time: 07:43:07 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ???
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Kin ya do anything 'bout laziness ?? Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 6:07 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ??? > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> > > I wish I knew SOMETHING about those VW engines to help you out..... > > OK , keep pluggin away... > . > . > . > Gotta Fly... > Mike in MN > > -------- > . > . > . > . > .Do not archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28470#28470 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:53:44 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
    Subject: New video from Montreal
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net> Hi Noel Thanks for the great video. How high are you flying ? Who would have believed 20 years ago...that you would be taking movies from your telephone !! Bill Vincent FS2 DO NOT ARCHIVE > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel" <noel@teledata.qc.ca> > > Hello all ! > > I had a wonderfull flight today ! Spring has "almost" arrived in our > northern country ... but the leaves are not really out yet ... > > I am sending a video made with a camera-phone ... > This is a 360 degree over a small town called Oka, located on the Lac des > deux montagnes near Montreal. The quality is not the best ... but the > scenery is great ! > > Have a great Easter hollyday ! > > Noel > > 1990 Twinstark MKII > Rotax 503 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28479#28479 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/_oka2500pi166_209.3gp > > >


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    Time: 08:17:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: R Wing needed for Firestar
    From: "Livair" <Livair@bellsouth.net>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Livair" <Livair@bellsouth.net> Are there other models that have the same wing? Is the Twinstar or Ultrastar wing by any chance the same? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28488#28488




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