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1. 02:45 AM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (planecrazzzy)
2. 04:38 AM - Re: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard engineering&quo (Jerry Deckard)
3. 05:03 AM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (pat ladd)
4. 05:43 AM - Re: Test Flying (pat ladd)
5. 05:57 AM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (John Hauck)
6. 05:58 AM - Re: Test Flying (planecrazzzy)
7. 05:59 AM - Photos of S&F (Airgriff2@aol.com)
8. 06:07 AM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (planecrazzzy)
9. 06:38 AM - Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar (DrHook)
10. 06:40 AM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (WillUribe@aol.com)
11. 06:54 AM - Re: Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar (Herb Gayheart)
12. 06:54 AM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (WillUribe@aol.com)
13. 07:01 AM - Re: Re: FireStar II sunset flight (WillUribe@aol.com)
14. 07:07 AM - Re: Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar (John Hauck)
15. 07:22 AM - S&F 2006 Photos and Video Clips (John Hauck)
16. 07:34 AM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (Larry Bourne)
17. 07:36 AM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (WillUribe@aol.com)
18. 08:02 AM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (planecrazzzy)
19. 08:03 AM - Re: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard engineering&quo (Todd Fredricks)
20. 08:12 AM - Re: Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar (planecrazzzy)
21. 08:41 AM - shaking strut (boyd)
22. 09:04 AM - Airworthiness Certificate (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
23. 09:04 AM - Re: shaking strut (John Hauck)
24. 09:15 AM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate: Dave Pelletier (kfackler)
25. 09:31 AM - Re: Re: FireStar II sunset flight (russ kinne)
26. 09:31 AM - Re: Re: Test Flying (russ kinne)
27. 09:49 AM - Instrument Markings (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
28. 09:54 AM - Re: HKS (John Jung)
29. 09:57 AM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
30. 10:09 AM - Mounment Valley Photos (John Jung)
31. 10:14 AM - Re: Re: FireStar II sunset flight (John Hauck)
32. 10:22 AM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
33. 10:45 AM - Re: Test Flying (planecrazzzy)
34. 11:23 AM - BRS VLS (LISA TURNER)
35. 11:30 AM - Re: Re: HKS (Jerry Deckard)
36. 01:24 PM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (Richard Pike)
37. 01:28 PM - Re: S&F 2006 Photos and Video Clips (Richard Pike)
38. 01:44 PM - RV-6 (Richard Pike)
39. 01:53 PM - Re: (changed header) radio silence (Richard Pike)
40. 04:15 PM - Re: BRS VLS (Roger Lee)
41. 04:22 PM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate (Roger Lee)
42. 04:27 PM - Re: Mounment Valley Photos (Roger Lee)
43. 04:43 PM - Re: Re: Mounment Valley Photos (John Hauck)
44. 05:10 PM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate (robert bean)
45. 07:47 PM - Monument Valley Web Page (Larry Bourne)
46. 08:17 PM - Re: Re: Mounment Valley Fly-in (DAquaNut@aol.com)
47. 08:17 PM - Re: Monument Valley Web Page (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
48. 08:52 PM - Re: Monument Valley Web Page (Larry Cottrell)
49. 09:26 PM - Re: Re: Mounment Valley Fly-in (Larry Bourne)
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| Subject: | Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Nice Job Possum,
I see you were able to put the lower bolts in it ...
.[/quote]
I did almost the same thing - except used a lot thiner alum - rolled the edges
just enough to wrap around the top & bottom of the struts 1/2 inch +-, then bent
in half with a "break" like you did. Used rivets to attach to the struts. It
also eliminated the vibrating strut problem with out adding more tha a pound
of weight. T6061 alum - I think?
Don't have any real close up pictures, the rolled edges are hard to see anyway.
It make more of a tear drop shape - but the difference in drag is negligible
at our speeds.[/quote]
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard engineering&quo |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard" <mustangsally@semo.net>
I am 6'1" and fly a Challenger II, I sat in a Kolbra and thought it was
roomy. I haven't flown one but I didn't see any problems.
Jerry
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From: "Todd Fredricks" <flyingfox@copper.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard
engineering&quo
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
>
>>From personal experience you are not going to fit well into a Kolbra and a
> Hawk will be okay. The Kolbra photos are somewhat deceptive because they
> are
> showing the aircraft being flown by folks who are significantly less than
> 6'
> tall. It is still superior in construction to a Hawk.
>
> A couple other things to consider;
>
> Dacron coverings. They are not going to last well in sunny hot high UV
> environments. You really need to use fabric and dope.
>
> Hawks don't fold. Kolbs have bomb-proof wing folding and while you might
> think you will never use this feature, in the event you have a storm or
> some
> other need to rapidly get the machine indoors, in a matter of 15 minutes
> or
> so you can fold a Kolb and get it into a garage or other small space.
>
> Single place light airplanes and ultralights all tend to be tight for big
> guys.
>
> I know that they look neat and it makes one feel like they are flying a
> fighter etc, but even the Sky Arrow is a tight fit for me. The Kolb
> Firestar
> is actually a pretty good fit for me but that is without a full enclosure.
> The Kobra canopy is too steep up front to clear my head. Since it is
> experimental you could modify the canopy to achieve head clearance but
> that
> would be here in the USA. I have no idea how the SA government treats such
> matters.
>
> The Rans S-18 fits pretty well but you can't fold wings and I personally
> do
> not like the shape of Ran's tails. They look goofy to my eye, but this is
> just aesthetics.
>
> Titan Tornados are also way too small up front.
>
> I think you ought to look over the Mark IIIs. The fact is that the
> visibility out of those airplanes is incredible. You are not cramped for
> space, you have plenty of room beside you to put maps, cameras, or
> whatever
> and they are fast by comparison to other models. They are not tandem
>
> I can sent you a reference photo of me 6'3" 245 pounds sitting in the
> factory Mark IIIX and you can get an idea of what I am talking about. My
> Mark III will have a lot of Lexan around the front end. I am basically
> looking to get something like a Seabird Seeker SB7L-360 to allow me to
> augment my aerial photography work. But I want the structural integrity of
> the Kolb design. As well the folding wings to get it stored cheaply and
> trailered easily to work sites.
>
> Send me your email and I will forward you the photo.
>
> Kind Regards, Todd
>
>
> On 4/13/06 9:52 AM, "Len du Preez" <Len@i5t.co.za> wrote:
>
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>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Len du Preez" <Len@i5t.co.za>
>>
>> Thanks
>> I am exactly 6' and weigh in the order of 115kg (240 odd pounds, I
>> think?)...
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> --
> Todd Fredricks, DO
> Flying Fox Services
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> Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com
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> POWERED BY MAC
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar II sunset flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
This video was taken yesterday a little after sunset.>>
Hi Will,
nice pics and your lights are great.
In the UK it is illegal to fly ultralights after sunset. Not so in the
States?
Cheers
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Here in the States we get to be our own test pilot for our own aircraft.>>
Hi John,
for the normal annual C of A the pilot can fly his own stuff and just note
the readings on the official form.
In my case the Authorities decreed that Mick, as dealer, is the designated
test pilot because mine will be the first Xtra here fitted with a Jabi 4
stroke and VG`s and will consequently be the first to get `type approval`.
This means that any other planes, and there are several in the last stages
of building, with the same configuration will be automatically OK. They will
just need the certificates issued at intervals during building by the
inspector who monitors the standard of workmanship.
Mick is giving me a conversion and check out as I have not flown a tail
dragger for years. Roll on the good weather.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar II sunset flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
the
| States?
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| Cheers
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| Pat
US UL's may fly 30 minutes after sunset with appropriate anticollision
light system.
Will's FS is registered amateur homebuilt experimental. If it is
equipped with navigation lights and noted by the inspector during
certification, it may be flown at night. I had my MKIII registered
for night flight, primarily, to cover me insurancewise if I should get
caught out after dark and break it.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Two essentials you should check before your FIRST TEST FLIGHT.....
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Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN / N381PM
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
Hi gang, Does anyone that attended Sun & Fun have pictures they may want to
post and share with others on the list who couldnt make it ?
Thanks
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar II sunset flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Nothing seems to be wrong with my computer....But "I" can't get "any" of
those address's to work.....?
anybody else having the same problem ?
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| Subject: | Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "DrHook" <csgale@yahoo.com>
I am trying to fix the damaged nose fairing on my Firestar. Its pretty buggered
up and was wondering how much a new one would cost me.
I have checked the New Kolb Aircrafts Website, and even E-mailed for a pricelist,
to no avail.
Anybody know how or where to look for stuff?
There are some other specific Firestar parts I will be replacing during the re-build.
Thanks Chris
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| Subject: | FireStar II sunset flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
Hi Mr Poops,
The nav lights and strobes are from Dick Kuntzleman of Kuntzleman
Electronics. I got them because they use less power then all the others. The
strobes
don't show up as good on the video because they are not in synchronization
with the camera's shutter.
http://www.kestrobes.com/
For the landing lights I used a 3 way heavy duty toggle switch. Up is on,
middle is off and down is connected to an alternating flasher that I got from
a store that sells lights to emergency vehicles. The flasher part number is
Federal FA3 and costs about $22.50.
I normally don't use the landing lights because they will drain my battery.
We have some pilots that don't like to use the radio so strobes come in
handy.
Hope this helps,
Will
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Great video Will.
What kind of the lights and strobe?
And how did you do the landing light pulse?
I think I need to spend some money for that sort of setup...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
WillUribe@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
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> Greetings,
>
> This video was taken yesterday a little after sunset. It has been very
> windy here in the southwest so anytime we get calm air we go out and fly.
>
http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Kolb Guys were likely in Florida last week... Try their phone... They
always answer... They walk around with these little wires sticking out of
their heads.. :-) Herb
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:37:58 -0700 "DrHook" <csgale@yahoo.com> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "DrHook" <csgale@yahoo.com>
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> I am trying to fix the damaged nose fairing on my Firestar. Its
> pretty buggered up and was wondering how much a new one would cost
> me.
> I have checked the New Kolb Aircrafts Website, and even E-mailed for
> a pricelist, to no avail.
> Anybody know how or where to look for stuff?
> There are some other specific Firestar parts I will be replacing
> during the re-build.
> Thanks Chris
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| Subject: | FireStar II sunset flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
Hi Pat,
We live in the land of the free and the wild west. Did you hear the gun
shoots right after I landed? I guess some people were blowing off steam after
paying their taxes.
Seriously, my FireStar is not an ultralight so I can fly at night but I
don't because I can't see much with the tinted windscreen.
Regards,
Will
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pat ladd
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar II sunset flight
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
This video was taken yesterday a little after sunset.>>
Hi Will,
nice pics and your lights are great.
In the UK it is illegal to fly ultralights after sunset. Not so in the
States?
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar II sunset flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
I don't know why Matronics treats links from AOL e-mails differently. It
used to be we could post regular URLs and clickable links for AOL but not
anymore.
One more try.
http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv
Regards,
Guillermo Uribe
FireStar II N4GU
El Paso, TX
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane
http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of planecrazzzy
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:07 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: FireStar II sunset flight
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Nothing seems to be wrong with my computer....But "I" can't get "any" of
those address's to work.....?
anybody else having the same problem ?
Gotta Fly...
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
for a pricelist, to no avail.
Call Travis, Kolb Parts, tomorrow morning bight and early.
The Kolb Team has been away to S&F. When that happens, things slow
down a bit.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | S&F 2006 Photos and Video Clips |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
I did not take but a couple photos and clips during my week in
Lakeland.
Here's hauck's holler (forward operating base) Paradise City,
Lakeland, FL. In the background is John W and Ken K getting the Titan
and the Kolbra ready for departure to Texas:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/DSCF3258-1.jpg
F-22 Raptors dwarf a WWII P-51 Mustang:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/DSCF3262-1.jpg
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/DSCF3263-1.jpg
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/DSCF3265-1.jpg
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/DSCF3266-1.jpg
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/DSCF3267-1.jpg
Time to blow out the candle lantern and zip up the sleeping bag:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/DSCF3268-1.jpg
Here are two clips of John W and Ken K departing Paradise City. Click
on the AVI files to view the clips:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/
Take care,
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar II sunset flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yah, we have some like that in this area, too. With 3 airports in 30 miles,
(PSP, UDD, TRM) all busy, and 1 with a tower, (PSP) these guys are a menace
to themselves and everyone else around them. I'm not sure what their
mindset is, but it's an aggravation in busy airspace. Personally, I check
in with every airport as I near it, even to pass by, and listen to all
traffic as I go.
I rode with a couple of those guys to the annual Chapter 1 fly-in at Flabob
a couple of years ago, and it was spooky. They take it as a point of pride
not to use the radio, and as we got deeper into that very heavy traffic, I
finally raised hell from the back seat and insisted they get on the air.
They were upset, and I'm still not being spoken to. Sorry, but I just don't
agree with them. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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From: <WillUribe@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 6:40 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: FireStar II sunset flight
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
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> Hi Mr Poops,
> I normally don't use the landing lights because they will drain my
> battery.
> We have some pilots that don't like to use the radio so strobes come in
> handy.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Will
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| Subject: | FireStar II sunset flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
Hi John,
The airport is a movie star, it came out in the 1983 movie Lone Wolf McQuade
with Chuck Norris, David Carradine, Barbara Carrera and Robert Beltran
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Enjoyed the video. Place looks familiar.
Your pulsating landing lights are very effective. They are difficult
to ignore, and more noticeable than the strobes when flying head on.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar II sunset flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Thank you Will,
I don't know what is different...but it's working now...
( DLS - I'm still downloading it...)
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WillUribe(at)aol.com wrote:
> I don't know why Matronics treats links from AOL e-mails differently. It
> used to be we could post regular URLs and clickable links for AOL but not
> anymore.
> One more try.
> http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv
> Regards,
> Guillermo Uribe
> FireStar II N4GU
> El Paso, TX
> http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane
> http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard engineering&quo |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
This may have as much to do with lateral dimensions as vertical and also the
size of a tall pilot's inseam. If you have a long butt to scalp dimension,
the Kolbra in London that I sat in was tight. Certainly couldn't fly it with
a helmet on and for me that is a must.
Much more comfortable in the MIIIX. But again, Canopy bows are builder
defined. If I were to build a Kolbra I would want doors on both sides and I
would fashion a canopy with the same curve as an AH-1, early model Cobra.
The canopy stays horizontal til almost the nose and then it curves rapidly
down. You would lose the Kolbra profile to some extent but it would
certainly look unique.
Todd
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hi Chris,
I've seen your nose cone....it's NOT that bad....
Look at it this way....With a de-flated Volley ball and some cardboard,
(or Foam) You could make one from Scratch......So the one you have
should be Really easy to fix....it's not hard to repair fiberglass....the hard
part is the sanding (smooth finish )...but proper tools makes it faster...
Quit lookin for those eggs , and get back to work...
Gotta Fly...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try tio
fix
the "problem" .
I have seen some modular plastic fairing that can easily be installed on a
Rans
S-12 (i think) ... These are made of 2 plastic parts that "snap" together to
form a "water drop" shaped fairing ...
Any one could submit a source for these ?
Kolb has some 1 piece struts that you slide over and rivet to the strut to
keep it from twisting.
Your other option could be a jury strut.. A small brace from your main
spar to the mid point of the strut.
Boyd.
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| Subject: | Airworthiness Certificate |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Got a little but "Unjazzed" when he gave me the invoice - $450 for the inspection.
Highway robbery as far as I'm concerned. Especially when you consider that
he inspected two of us at the same location. He got there a bit before nine,
inspected both planes and did the paperwork and was gone by eleven. $900 for
a couple of hours on Saturday morning - not bad. But maybe I'm being unfair
because he had to do at least 15 minutes work for each of us to get the paperwork
ready before he left home. Guys, don't tell your kids to be lawyers, tell
them to become DAR's. Oh well, a one-time fee, but still I hate to feel ripped
off.
AzDave
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| Subject: | Re: shaking strut |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
main
| spar to the mid point of the strut.
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| Boyd.
Homer Kolb, when I was building my MKIII at the Kolb Barn (Factory) in
1991, asked me to put jury struts on my wing lift struts. The reason
he asked was the jury strut was included in the Plans for the MKIII.
He felt if I put them on, others might follow suit.
Well..................as far as I know, my MKIII is the only one in
existence that is equipped with streamlined (or otherwise) jury
struts.
In previous posts to the Kolb List I have related how the jury strut
saved my streamlined lift strut when the gear leg/axle socket failed
in Canada. When the wheel departed the aircraft the weight of the
aircraft dropped down on the left wheel, the lift strut taking the
entire load. Jury strut prevented lift strut failure.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate: Dave Pelletier |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Condolences on the money. Congrats on the Cert!
do not archive
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar II sunset flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
I can play the first 10 seconds; then it freezes
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On Apr 16, 2006, at 10:00 AM, WillUribe@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
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> I don't know why Matronics treats links from AOL e-mails
> differently. It
> used to be we could post regular URLs and clickable links for AOL
> but not
> anymore.
> One more try.
> http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv
> Regards,
> Guillermo Uribe
> FireStar II N4GU
> El Paso, TX
> http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane
> http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> planecrazzzy
> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:07 AM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: FireStar II sunset flight
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
> <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
> Nothing seems to be wrong with my computer....But "I" can't get
> "any" of
> those address's to work.....?
> anybody else having the same problem ?
> Gotta Fly...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Are you saying we may have lost our marbles??
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On Apr 16, 2006, at 8:58 AM, planecrazzzy wrote:
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| Subject: | Instrument Markings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
A few of you had e-mailed me off list and asked to let you know what my instrument
markings would be when everything is said and done so here they are: (Mk
III Classic - 582)
Vne 100 Red
Vno 85 Yellow
Vsi 42 Green
Vso 38 White
Vfe 70 White
Someone (Brian Melbourne?) told me that you don't really need the yellow arc since
the MK III is ok right up to Vne. Someone else (?) told me that the DAR's
are used to seeing a yellow arc so I might consider putting it in to avoid a
problem.
AzDave
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
mustangsally(at)semo.net wrote:
> Anyone ever put an HKS on a Firestar? With fuel prices I am considering it.
> Jerry
Jerry,
I have concidered it myself, but I didn't find anyone who had already done it.
Old Kolb did some testing years ago and determined that on a Kolb the performance
was no better than a 503. But I don't think they were talking about fuel performance.
In my case, I want to get more range on 10 gallons. A few of the potential
problems with the HKS are: the need for premium fuel, higher thrust line,
high cost, and the need to do your own engineering for oil cooler and exhaust
and motor mount.
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Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Doesn't look like the first part of the message came through so I'll re-post
it.
ELSA. Next and final step is the Sport Pilot practical test. Hope to do
that before MV. Then it'll be "Gouldings traffic, Kolb 2031 CeeYehRah
reporting 5 miles South, Gouldings traffic" I'm jazzed!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 9:02 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Airworthiness Certificate
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
> <pelletier@cableone.net>
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> Got a little but "Unjazzed" when he gave me the invoice - $450 for the
> inspection. Highway robbery as far as I'm concerned. Especially when you
> consider that he inspected two of us at the same location. He got there a
> bit before nine, inspected both planes and did the paperwork and was gone
> by eleven. $900 for a couple of hours on Saturday morning - not bad. But
> maybe I'm being unfair because he had to do at least 15 minutes work for
> each of us to get the paperwork ready before he left home. Guys, don't
> tell your kids to be lawyers, tell them to become DAR's. Oh well, a
> one-time fee, but still I hate to feel ripped off.
>
> AzDave
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| Subject: | Mounment Valley Photos |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Group,
It is time to start thinking about Monument Valley this May. To increase the intrest,
I posted some photos an Flickr. Check them out.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jrjung/sets/72057594107890481/
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Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar II sunset flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Never gets that cold in El Paso.
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| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Don't know why my message keeps getting chopped, but I'll try the first line
again.
"I got my airworthiness certificate yesterday. N2031S is now a legal ELSA."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airworthiness Certificate
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
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> Doesn't look like the first part of the message came through so I'll
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> it.
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> ELSA. Next and final step is the Sport Pilot practical test. Hope to do
> that before MV. Then it'll be "Gouldings traffic, Kolb 2031 CeeYehRah
> reporting 5 miles South, Gouldings traffic" I'm jazzed!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 9:02 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Airworthiness Certificate
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>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
>> <pelletier@cableone.net>
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>> Got a little but "Unjazzed" when he gave me the invoice - $450 for the
>> inspection. Highway robbery as far as I'm concerned. Especially when
>> you
>> consider that he inspected two of us at the same location. He got there
>> a
>> bit before nine, inspected both planes and did the paperwork and was gone
>> by eleven. $900 for a couple of hours on Saturday morning - not bad.
>> But
>> maybe I'm being unfair because he had to do at least 15 minutes work for
>> each of us to get the paperwork ready before he left home. Guys, don't
>> tell your kids to be lawyers, tell them to become DAR's. Oh well, a
>> one-time fee, but still I hate to feel ripped off.
>>
>> AzDave
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Is that what I said.......Maybe read it again...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: LISA TURNER <lisaturner@prodigy.net>
Fellow Kolbers,
Since I'm selling my Mark III to David Key and he does not want the BRS, I have
a brand new re-packed and checked by BRS (January 06) VLS 1050 never mounted
for sale for $1,200. I paid $3,400 for it (2001) and another $800 in January
to have updated and repacked in the aerodynamic VLS cannister. If anyone wants
it let me know otherwise I'll put it on eBay and see what happens! David
is going to finish this project up and I bought a Rotorway Helicopter Kit (just
a Kolb with much smaller wings . . . :-) ). Now if I could figure out how to
mount a BRS to the helicopter rotor . . . . . . hope you guys don't mind if
I still lurk on your excellent interchanges from time to time. David is a great
Kolb driver and will be a good addition to the family. After the helicopter
there may be another Kolb for me . . . probably a single seater. I'll rely
on your advice! Take care. Lese
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:26 AM - Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ??? (planecrazzzy)
2. 01:53 AM - Re: test&update (planecrazzzy)
3. 07:51 AM - Re: R Wing needed for Firestar (John Jung)
4. 08:24 AM - Re: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard engineering&quo (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
5. 09:39 AM - Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (pat ladd)
6. 11:35 AM - Re: New video from Montreal (Noel)
7. 11:43 AM - Shaking strut ... (Noel)
8. 11:50 AM - Test Flying (John Hauck)
9. 11:58 AM - Re: Shaking strut ... (Blumax008@aol.com)
10. 12:21 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (Blumax008@aol.com)
11. 12:31 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (N111KX (Kip))
12. 12:49 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (John Hauck)
13. 01:03 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (John Hauck)
14. 01:37 PM - Re: Shaking strut ... (Bob Dalton)
15. 02:04 PM - Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (russ kinne)
16. 02:13 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (russ kinne)
17. 02:54 PM - Streamline Lift Struts / Homemade (planecrazzzy)
18. 03:27 PM - HKS (Jerry Deckard)
19. 04:20 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (John Hauck)
20. 04:20 PM - Re: HKS (John Hauck)
21. 04:25 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (planecrazzzy)
22. 04:35 PM - Re: HKS (Jerry Deckard)
23. 04:47 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (John Hauck)
24. 05:21 PM - FireStar II sunset flight (WillUribe@aol.com)
25. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
26. 05:53 PM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (John Hauck)
27. 06:09 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (planecrazzzy)
28. 06:10 PM - Re: Sun 'N Fun (cspoke)
29. 06:24 PM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (Richard Pike)
30. 07:34 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (Possum)
31. 08:02 PM - Alternitive Engines For Firestar (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 01:26:51 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ???
From: "planecrazzzy"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
Hey big Lar,
If you cooperate....I can try.
First, we'll start with 12V DC , if that doesn't get ya goin....
We'll go staight to AC ....say 120 ....240....480....
You know, you did all that work for years...now your SO CLOSE
That in itself should be really good motivation...just one small(er) oil leak
keeping you from flying.....Well, that and a mountain of paperchasing...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
biglar wrote:
> Kin ya do anything 'bout laziness ?? Do not Archive.
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> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
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Time: 01:53:22 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: test&update
From: "planecrazzzy"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
Hi Paul,
Got all the hinges marked and the cables tagged?......I guess you'll
have to strip your cage down too....
I remember when "I" was at that stage....it was looking like an airplane
and then I had to tear it all down, back to a bunch of parts...
Oh, the " where am I in building"....We already have one...
It's called the "Kolb List".....He he he
Good luck with your fabric and painting.......
Pictures,pictures pictures......That's what we want to see......
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Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN / N381PM
Paul P wrote:
> Hi Kolbers,
> I have a new computer and lost the info on the BBS. Starting over here.....As
for Ms Dixie she comes apart this weekend for covering! What are other builders
up to? Maybe we need a thread on "Where I am in my building" and what I am
building perhaps.
>
> Greetings from Harris Hollow
>
> Regards,
> Paul Petty
> Kolbra 012
> 912UL
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Time: 07:51:22 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: R Wing needed for Firestar
From: "John Jung"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung"
Livair wrote:
> Are there other models that have the same wing? Is the Twinstar or Ultrastar
wing by any chance the same?
I believe that the Mark II has the same wing as the Firestar II. But unless you
find one close to you, the transportation costs could be more than rebuilding
or building new. Doesn't hurt to search, though.
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Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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Time: 08:24:58 AM PST US
From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard engineering&quo
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
Todd you have taken the words out of my mouth there shouldnt even be a
question of what is a better plane just take a look at the design & Construction
of
each of them and this should answer your question
Ellery in Firestar
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Time: 09:39:07 AM PST US
From: "pat ladd"
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd"
I go on O2 at 1000'! -- how could I manage that in a Kolb ? Maybe I'd
never fly that high anyway -->>
Hi Russ,
I assume you meant 10,000 ft..
Mick Moulai tells me today that he had my Xtra up to 10500ft and still
climbing yesterday as part of the test programme on my machine.
The programme is almost finished and I may actually get my hands on the
plane myself in the next couple of weeks.
Cheers
Pat
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Time: 11:35:29 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New video from Montreal
From: "Noel"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel"
Hello Bill !
Thanks for your comments !
This was at 2500 feet ... the higest altitude allowed in that area (without contacting
the Mirabel airport tower).
Nol
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Time: 11:43:43 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
From: "Noel"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel"
Hello all !
I have often noticed some vibration of the wing struts of my Twinstar MK II .
This happens at a given RPM when the strut seems to hit a "resonance" point and
start to vibrate. This never bothered me too much as it seems to only happens
at a RPM of around 4500 .
Now ... i took some picture with my camera phone while flying yesterday
that happens to "catch " these vibrations on the picture.
I have been quite surprised when i saw that picture with the apparently quite large
amplitude of the vibration ! Quite amazing ... but it could also be
an optical "effect" created or amplified by the relatively low shutter speed of
the camera ...
In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try tio fix
the "problem" .
I have seen some modular plastic fairing that can easily be installed on a Rans
S-12 (i think) ... These are made of 2 plastic parts that "snap" together to
form a "water drop" shaped fairing ...
Any one could submit a source for these ?
Good and safle flying to all ...
Noel Bouchard
Twinstar MK II
350 Hrs
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________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
Time: 11:50:36 AM PST US
From: "John Hauck"
Subject: Kolb-List: Test Flying
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
the
| plane myself in the next couple of weeks.
|
| Cheers
|
| Pat
Patrick:
Here in the States we get to be our own test pilot for our own
aircraft.
Is there a requirement for a designated person to test your homebuilt
aircraft?
john h
mkIII
________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________
Time: 11:58:32 AM PST US
From: Blumax008@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
In a message dated 4/15/2006 2:44:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
noel@teledata.qc.ca writes:
In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try tio
fix the "problem" .
My '04 and 503 powered Firestar II does the same thing depending on how the
503 feels like eating it's oats. I have the strut fairings too...same deal. I
let the sumbitch vibrate. If the strut fails, I got the 'chute.
Wild Bill Catalina
________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________
Time: 12:21:30 PM PST US
From: Blumax008@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
I figured that would get someone's attention! LOL!
This is just food for thought for all you potential BRS deployers out there.
I use my Firestar II for aerial photography for a major developer here in
north Florida.
I shoot at 12,000 ft. every week. Yes, it'll go that high, just be patient,
breathe good & carry lots of fuel for the long burn. Anyway, I was waaay up
there freezing my butt off, banking hard over, getting scared again & started
thinking....
Me thinking..."You know, with this 40mph north wind blowing & me being over
the coast, if I had an accidental 'chute deployment, I'd be at least 5 miles
out in the Gulp of Mexico before I landed in the water! Also, if I did
actually have to use that sucker & deployed it too soon at too high an
altitude...I'd be at least 5 miles out in the Gulp of Mexico!"
So...my point being, & I don't think this has ever been brought up...be
concious of where you are, how high you are & where the wind may blow you if you
really do need to use a 'chute! I've never heard of it happening before but
an accidental or intentional deployment (at altitude) could put your butt in a
very serious situation. Be prepared to ride it down to a safer altitude
before deployment...if needed...and hope the sumbitch doesn't ever accidentally
deploy due to some brain or equipment malfunction.
I'm even thinking about removing it. This is the first aircraft I've ever
had in 28 years of flying ultralights that had a BRS. Be somethin' if I saved
myself via BRS...only to drown later. Like I said...food for thought.
Wild Bill Catalina
________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________
Time: 12:31:21 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: BRS Deployment...
From: "N111KX (Kip)"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "N111KX (Kip)"
Just ride it down to 700 AGL then pull Big Red:)
Kip
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Kip
Firestar II (born September 2000)
Atlanta, GA
N111KX
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________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________
Time: 12:49:05 PM PST US
From: "John Hauck"
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
| myself via BRS...only to drown later. Like I said...food for
thought.
|
| Wild Bill Catalina
Heard the very same statement several times from different pilots over
the years, "thinking about removing it."
I can assure you, if you need it and it is laying on the bench in the
hangar, you gonna wish you had it.
Might be a good idea to purchase and wear an inflatable PFD when
flying near and or over water. I bought one a few days prior to
flying to S&F from Acft Spruce. Paid $118.00 for it. Will be worth
every penny if the time should arise when I need it, and I have it
firmly attached to my body.
Deciding when and where one will deploy their BRS during an emergency
situation may live little room for decision making at different
altitudes.
>From personal experience, I did not have a choice either time. It was
imperative to make the decision immediately or die.
Another point to consider is:
If and when the emergency arises, the aircraft may not be in a docile,
stable descent. It very well make be tumbling rapidly, spinning
wildly, with such centrifugal force that one may not be able to raise
a hand to find, grasp, and pull the deployment handle.
If one can afford to install a ballistic recovery system, one should.
One should also not be afraid to use it, should the situation present
itself. It gives you another chance when all other options have
expired.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________
Time: 01:03:04 PM PST US
From: "John Hauck"
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
| Deciding when and where one will deploy their BRS during an
emergency
| situation may live little room for decision making at different
| altitudes.
The above should have read:
"Deciding when and where one will deploy their BRS during an emergency
situation my leave little room for decision making at different
altitudes."
Thanks,
john h
mkIII
________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________
Time: 01:37:40 PM PST US
From: "Bob Dalton"
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton"
Noel,
Look's as though the strut is distorted from your lexan being photographed
through, you do have a canopy on right. Look at the landscape you will see
your straight lines are distorted also. Just my guess though.
Bob D.
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:43 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel"
Hello all !
I have often noticed some vibration of the wing struts of my Twinstar MK II
..
This happens at a given RPM when the strut seems to hit a "resonance" point
and start to vibrate. This never bothered me too much as it seems to only
happens at a RPM of around 4500 .
Now ... i took some picture with my camera phone while flying yesterday
that happens to "catch " these vibrations on the picture.
I have been quite surprised when i saw that picture with the apparently
quite large amplitude of the vibration ! Quite amazing ... but it could also
be
an optical "effect" created or amplified by the relatively low shutter speed
of the camera ...
In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try tio
fix the "problem" .
I have seen some modular plastic fairing that can easily be installed on a
Rans S-12 (i think) ... These are made of 2 plastic parts that "snap"
together to form a "water drop" shaped fairing ...
Any one could submit a source for these ?
Good and safle flying to all ...
Noel Bouchard
Twinstar MK II
350 Hrs
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________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________
Time: 02:04:35 PM PST US
From: russ kinne
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne
Pat
No, I meant 1,000 feet! -- the low level is where I work -- & shine.
And smile!
Glad to hear your bird got to 10,500! You'll have a ball when all the
folderol is over --
Fair winds,
Russ
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On Apr 15, 2006, at 12:27 PM, pat ladd wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd"
>
> I go on O2 at 1000'! -- how could I manage that in a Kolb ? Maybe
> I'd
> never fly that high anyway -->>
>
> Hi Russ,
>
> I assume you meant 10,000 ft..
> Mick Moulai tells me today that he had my Xtra up to 10500ft and still
> climbing yesterday as part of the test programme on my machine.
>
> The programme is almost finished and I may actually get my hands on
> the
> plane myself in the next couple of weeks.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
> --
>
>
________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________
Time: 02:13:15 PM PST US
From: russ kinne
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne
Wild Bill
FWIW -- did you ever consider wearing a divers wet-suit jacket?
Comfortable, good insulation, and if you ditch you'd be afloat, face
up and out of the water, conscious or not. I use them over cold water
where the legal preservers would keep you afloat and dead. I'd rather
be illegal and alive
On Apr 15, 2006, at 3:20 PM, Blumax008@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
>
> I figured that would get someone's attention! LOL!
>
> This is just food for thought for all you potential BRS deployers
> out there.
> I use my Firestar II for aerial photography for a major developer
> here in
> north Florida.
>
> I shoot at 12,000 ft. every week. Yes, it'll go that high, just be
> patient,
> breathe good & carry lots of fuel for the long burn. Anyway, I was
> waaay up
> there freezing my butt off, banking hard over, getting scared
> again & started
> thinking....
>
> Me thinking..."You know, with this 40mph north wind blowing & me
> being over
> the coast, if I had an accidental 'chute deployment, I'd be at
> least 5 miles
> out in the Gulp of Mexico before I landed in the water! Also, if I
> did
> actually have to use that sucker & deployed it too soon at too
> high an
> altitude...I'd be at least 5 miles out in the Gulp of Mexico!"
>
> So...my point being, & I don't think this has ever been brought
> up...be
> concious of where you are, how high you are & where the wind may
> blow you if you
> really do need to use a 'chute! I've never heard of it happening
> before but
> an accidental or intentional deployment (at altitude) could put
> your butt in a
> very serious situation. Be prepared to ride it down to a safer
> altitude
> before deployment...if needed...and hope the sumbitch doesn't ever
> accidentally
> deploy due to some brain or equipment malfunction.
>
> I'm even thinking about removing it. This is the first aircraft
> I've ever
> had in 28 years of flying ultralights that had a BRS. Be somethin'
> if I saved
> myself via BRS...only to drown later. Like I said...food for thought.
>
> Wild Bill Catalina
>
>
________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________
Time: 02:54:56 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Streamline Lift Struts / Homemade
From: "planecrazzzy"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
Hey guys,
I've been making some streamline lift struts for my Firestar II
When I fly with the "stock" lift struts...They sometimes start to
vibrate and wiggle in flight.....I bought some aluminum and sheared
two pieces 70" x 9 1/4" ....I put them thru the rollers a few times
until they had about a 20" radius to them,Then with a "knife edge"
and a rubber lower die....I bent them in half in the Break.....
I was experimenting with the TIG , to get it small enough to weld
the seam, I wasn't having much luck with the machine "I" had...So I
used the MIG gun....Dialed it in and had a pretty good bead going.
Then I've been working on cleaning them up and polishing them...
I'm waiting on some AN bolts...Their ready to put on....LATER ,
I'm thinking of making some fairings to extend the streamline struts
to a smoother finish.....I haven't seen ANYBODY try to clean that
area up,I think it looks kind of funny when the streamline just stops...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
PS It was 12 bucks worth of aluminum...and working thru lunches...
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Time: 03:27:06 PM PST US
From: "Jerry Deckard"
Subject: Kolb-List: HKS
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard"
Anyone ever put an HKS on a Firestar? With fuel prices I am considering it.
Jerry
________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________
Time: 04:20:15 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
From: "John Hauck"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
Fairings turned out great!
What thickness alumuninum sheet did you use?
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________
Time: 04:20:15 PM PST US
From: "John Hauck"
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
considering it.
|
| Jerry
Gerry Olenik was my next door neighbor while camping at S&F. We
talked about HKS and FS. I believe he is going to do some
investigating into the possibility of an HKS powered FS.
john h
mkIII
________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________
Time: 04:25:52 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
From: "planecrazzzy"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
Hi John,
Thanks......
I went to the "Discount Steel" down the street from me....I was looking
For anything in their "Drop" section at least 70" x 18"
I found a piece 70.5" x 18.5 it was 1/16" thick ( 16 gauge ? )
Which was about my limit on thickness..... it's a little thinner since I've
used some 220 with a DA , then scuff pad , then 500 grit wet sand....
They can still use some more polishing...But I'm in the ballpark...
I got the directions from your brother "Jim" to make the lift struts like
you have....but I thought I'd try this first.....If it didn't work... I'd only
be "out" 12 bucks...
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Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN / N381PM
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________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________
Time: 04:35:17 PM PST US
From: "Jerry Deckard"
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard"
Thanks,
I have a new 447 and box, that would help offset the cost of the HKS.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck"
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> considering it.
>
> Gerry Olenik was my next door neighbor while camping at S&F. We
> talked about HKS and FS. I believe he is going to do some
> investigating into the possibility of an HKS powered FS.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________
Time: 04:47:37 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
From: "John Hauck"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
Those fairings over some round 4130 lift struts would probably work well. Be nice
and solid.
--------
John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________
Time: 05:21:25 PM PST US
From: WillUribe@aol.com
Subject: Kolb-List: FireStar II sunset flight
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
Greetings,
This video was taken yesterday a little after sunset. It has been very
windy here in the southwest so anytime we get calm air we go out and fly.
_http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv_
(http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv)
Enjoy,
Guillermo Uribe
FireStar II N4GU
El Paso, TX
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________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________
Time: 05:43:18 PM PST US
From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
I would like to add farings to my struts also to make it look better but I
think it would have to be something that one could install easy because I have
to fold & unfold every time I fly wich is often mabe someone in the plastic
molding business can come up with something that just fits tight to the
streamline struts that we could slide up to the wing and down to the cadge anyone
got
any leads ? on something like that let us know
Ellery in Maine flying a old firestar but its like new now
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________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________
Time: 05:53:05 PM PST US
From: "John Hauck"
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar II sunset flight
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
Enjoyed the video. Place looks familiar.
Your pulsating landing lights are very effective. They are difficult
to ignore, and more noticeable than the strobes when flying head on.
john h
mkIII
________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________
Time: 06:09:04 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
From: "planecrazzzy"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
I will be sliding my "stock" lift struts through these "sleeves"....
I will be able to put three ( new, longer ) AN bolts thru the Top of the Lift
strut....but the lower end has the bolts facing towards the rear.....I'm
going to cotter pin those nuts....and cut three inspection holes to see that
things look good..... I fold my plane each time too....
nothing fancy here....just trying to solve the lift strut vibration....
Because the lower bolts don't hold the sleeve....I'll have to see how tight
the sleeve will be , I don't think it's gonna move around...If it does,I'll
put a squeeze on it somehow.... I was thinking about shooting
expanding foam in the gap....but I'm afraid of moister
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
PS If you want PVC Streamline Strut Tubing.....
10' sections part # A2685 price $47.49 - in the L.E.A.F. catolog
For tubing Dia from 1" to 2" ......there ya go.
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________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________
Time: 06:10:31 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Sun 'N Fun
From: "cspoke"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "cspoke"
Hi Bill,
I'm new to posting on the list. I've been reading for several months and got alot
of good information. Sun N Fun was good for me. While I was there, I purchased
a Mark 111 Xtra kit. I meet the Kolb factory people and John Hauck. Great
people with a great airplane. I can't wait to start building. I'm sure that I
will have many questions. BTW Bill, I see that you are in the UP. I recently moved
from Michigan to the Gulf Coast of Alabama. No snow here. My Dad is from
Iron River Michigan. The family still has a hunting camp there. Oh,,,,the show
at Sun N Fun was good too. Lots of airplanes to look at.
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________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________
Time: 06:24:19 PM PST US
From: Richard Pike
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar II sunset flight
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike
Great video Will.
What kind of the lights and strobe?
And how did you do the landing light pulse?
I think I need to spend some money for that sort of setup...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
WillUribe@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
> Greetings,
>
> This video was taken yesterday a little after sunset. It has been very
> windy here in the southwest so anytime we get calm air we go out and fly.
>
> _http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv_
> (http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv)
>
> Enjoy,
> Guillermo Uribe
> FireStar II N4GU
> El Paso, TX
> _http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/_ (http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/)
> _http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/_ (http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/)
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________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________
Time: 07:34:32 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
From: "Possum"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Possum"
planecrazzzy wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I've been making some streamline lift struts(sleeves) for my Firestar II
>
> When I fly with the "stock" lift struts...They sometimes start to
>
> vibrate and wiggle in flight.....I bought some aluminum and sheared
>
> two pieces 70" x 9 1/4" ....I put them thru the rollers a few times
>
> until they had about a 20" radius to them,Then with a "knife edge"
>
> and a rubber lower die....I bent them in half in the Break.....
>
>
> .
I did almost the same thing - except used a lot thiner alum - rolled the edges
just enough to wrap around the top & bottom of the struts 1/2 inch +-, then bent
in half with a "break" like you did. Used rivets to attach to the struts. It
also eliminated the vibrating strut problem with out adding more tha a pound
of weight. T6061 alum - I think?
Don't have any real close up pictures, the rolled edges are hard to see anyway.
It make more of a tear drop shape - but the difference in drag is negligible
at our speeds.
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________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________
Time: 08:02:33 PM PST US
From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
Subject: Kolb-List: Alternitive Engines For Firestar
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
Jerry
I don't know much about the package but something to consider is the Generac
engine Valley Engineering is developing a reduction drive for.
http://www.culverprops.com/new-engine.htm These are the guys that make the
redrive for my VW. They have spent considerable effort in taming the
harmonic vibrations that the engine/psru/prop has with the V twin engine
configuration. They have some long term hope to completely smooth out my VW
with a similar solution.
Food for thought and a much lower price solution.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Deckard"
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard"
>
> Thanks,
> I have a new 447 and box, that would help offset the cost of the HKS.
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Hauck"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 6:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>
>> | Anyone ever put an HKS on a Firestar? With fuel prices I am
>> considering it.
>> |
>> | Jerry
>>
>> Gerry Olenik was my next door neighbor while camping at S&F. We
>> talked about HKS and FS. I believe he is going to do some
>> investigating into the possibility of an HKS powered FS.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>>
>>
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Lese
Lisa P. Turner
lisaturner@lisaturner.com
561-866-0011
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I think the thrust line would be pretty close. But I would like to try one.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:53 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: HKS
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
>
>
> mustangsally(at)semo.net wrote:
>> Anyone ever put an HKS on a Firestar? With fuel prices I am considering
>> it.
>> Jerry
>
>
> Jerry,
>
> I have concidered it myself, but I didn't find anyone who had already done
> it. Old Kolb did some testing years ago and determined that on a Kolb the
> performance was no better than a 503. But I don't think they were talking
> about fuel performance. In my case, I want to get more range on 10
> gallons. A few of the potential problems with the HKS are: the need for
> premium fuel, higher thrust line, high cost, and the need to do your own
> engineering for oil cooler and exhaust and motor mount.
> do not archive
>
> --------
> John Jung
> Firestar II N6163J
> Surprise, AZ
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FireStar II sunset flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Thank You
rp
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WillUribe@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
> Hi Mr Poops,
>
> The nav lights and strobes are from Dick Kuntzleman of Kuntzleman
> Electronics. I got them because they use less power then all the others. The
strobes
> don't show up as good on the video because they are not in synchronization
> with the camera's shutter.
> http://www.kestrobes.com/
> For the landing lights I used a 3 way heavy duty toggle switch. Up is on,
> middle is off and down is connected to an alternating flasher that I got from
> a store that sells lights to emergency vehicles. The flasher part number is
> Federal FA3 and costs about $22.50.
> I normally don't use the landing lights because they will drain my battery.
> We have some pilots that don't like to use the radio so strobes come in
> handy.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Will
>
>
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
> Great video Will.
> What kind of the lights and strobe?
> And how did you do the landing light pulse?
> I think I need to spend some money for that sort of setup...
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> WillUribe@aol.com wrote:
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> This video was taken yesterday a little after sunset. It has been very
>> windy here in the southwest so anytime we get calm air we go out and fly.
>>
>>
> http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: S&F 2006 Photos and Video Clips |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Well, here I was wondering where I could get some good pictures to put
in our EAA newsletter and Voila!
Thanks John, those are great.
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Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
John Hauck wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Hi Gang:
>
> I did not take but a couple photos and clips during my week in
> Lakeland.
>
> Here's hauck's holler (forward operating base) Paradise City,
> Lakeland, FL. In the background is John W and Ken K getting the Titan
> and the Kolbra ready for departure to Texas:
>
> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/DSCF3258-1.jpg
>
> F-22 Raptors dwarf a WWII P-51 Mustang:
>
> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/DSCF3262-1.jpg
>
> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/DSCF3263-1.jpg
>
> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/DSCF3265-1.jpg
>
> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/DSCF3266-1.jpg
>
> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/DSCF3267-1.jpg
>
> Time to blow out the candle lantern and zip up the sleeping bag:
>
> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/DSCF3268-1.jpg
>
> Here are two clips of John W and Ken K departing Paradise City. Click
> on the AVI files to view the clips:
>
> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck%20Stuff/S&F%202006/
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
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>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
I have noticed from time to time that Kolbers sometimes have other
airplanes, and often they are RV's.
I know of an RV6 project that is just going into Trade-a-plane this
week, it is a local project airplane that I have done the EAA technical
inspections on, and the workmanship is at least professional, and almost
flawless. The tailfeathers are done, and the wings are done. The kit is
complete. It includes a new from the factory Lycoming 180 in the box,
and they are asking $30,000 with the engine, and the engine by itself is
worth $20. There is other stuff, but I don't have all the details. If
you have been thinking of an RV project, this would be a good one.
Contact me off list, and I will give you the email or phone # of who to
call.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard@bcchapel.org
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| Subject: | Re: (changed header) radio silence |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
You did right to jump them. It is not hard to learn how to mentally
envision where everybody else in the area is at, if they are giving good
position reports as they enter or leave airport traffic areas. But the
idiot Lone Ranger mentality who blunders silently along contributes
nothing to the mix. Good on ya.
Reminds me of a situation years ago, working West Radar at TRI, was
watching two VFR's flying a heading to intercept each other, neither one
talking to ATC, or asking for traffic advisories, and one of them was at
WAFDOF (wrong altitude for direction of flight). As the targets merged,
at the same altitude, both of them began (obviously) pushing their ident
buttons.
DOH!
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Larry Bourne wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Yah, we have some like that in this area, too. With 3 airports in 30 miles,
> (PSP, UDD, TRM) all busy, and 1 with a tower, (PSP) these guys are a menace
> to themselves and everyone else around them. I'm not sure what their
> mindset is, but it's an aggravation in busy airspace. Personally, I check
> in with every airport as I near it, even to pass by, and listen to all
> traffic as I go.
>
> I rode with a couple of those guys to the annual Chapter 1 fly-in at Flabob
> a couple of years ago, and it was spooky. They take it as a point of pride
> not to use the radio, and as we got deeper into that very heavy traffic, I
> finally raised hell from the back seat and insisted they get on the air.
> They were upset, and I'm still not being spoken to. Sorry, but I just don't
> agree with them. Lar. Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
Flew Rotorway's 162F for 6 years before buying my Kolb.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28827#28827
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| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
Hi Dave,
Congrats for your ELSA. Who did the inspection. My guy was John Shablow from California.
It was $350 plus $100 for his flight over to Tucson. I do hear that
in some places back east that some DAR's are getting up to $750 for an inspection.
I will be flying up to MV May 18th. with 2-3 other planes. ( My Mark III, 2 x Zenith
701's and a Rans 12). We are going from Tucson to Payson, to Winslow then
to MV. You could join us in Payson or Winslow if you want.
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| Subject: | Re: Mounment Valley Photos |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
Hi John,
Nice photos. Hope to see you in MV again this tear.
Roger lee
Tucson, Az
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| Subject: | Re: Mounment Valley Photos |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Roger L:
Hope to arrive MV 18 May, or maybe 17 May.
Met some new folks at S&F that live in an airpark south of
Albuquerque. Want to stop off and see them. Also plan on spending
the night with Domique Perez in NM, second night out. Usually stay at
Sandia East Airpark, but this will make for a pleasant change.
>From NM, will probably go up to the south and west of Albuquerque,
then northwest to Gallup and MV. Flew home that way from MV a couple
years ago. Was a very nice flight.
Really getting excited about the Fourth Annual Unplanned/Unorganized
Kolb Flyin at MV, UT. If this year is anywhere near as much fun as
the last three have been, then it will also be an overwelming success.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Not wanting to sound like a broken record here BUT.........
Why the reluctance to have a genyoowine FAA guy do it for free?
I'd feel ripped off too.
-BB do not archive
On 16, Apr 2006, at 12:02 PM, Dave & Eve Pelletier wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
> <pelletier@cableone.net>
>
>
> Got a little but "Unjazzed" when he gave me the invoice - $450 for the
> inspection. Highway robbery as far as I'm concerned. Especially when
> you consider that he inspected two of us at the same location. He got
> there a bit before nine, inspected both planes and did the paperwork
> and was gone by eleven. $900 for a couple of hours on Saturday
> morning - not bad. But maybe I'm being unfair because he had to do at
> least 15 minutes work for each of us to get the paperwork ready before
> he left home. Guys, don't tell your kids to be lawyers, tell them to
> become DAR's. Oh well, a one-time fee, but still I hate to feel
> ripped off.
>
> AzDave
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Monument Valley Web Page |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Well, I guess it's proven that I'm suffering from old-timers disease. I started to build the long overdue Monument Valley '05 page tonight, and found that I'd already built it, and over 500 people have looked at it. How'd I manage that ?? It was published, all right, but not linked to the Traveling page. This is scary, folks. Take a look at: http://www.webpictures.homestead.com/travelling.html , and click on the Monument Valley '05 page. There are also some new pages published recently under "Palm Springs Day Trips." I hope you enjoy, and let me know what you think. If you haven't seen these pages before, there are many nice pics on Monument Valley '03. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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| Subject: | Re: Mounment Valley Fly-in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 4/16/2006 6:44:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,
jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
Really getting excited about the Fourth Annual Unplanned/Unorganized
Kolb Flyin at MV, UT. If this year is anywhere near as much fun as
the last three have been, then it will also be an overwelming success.
john h
John and Others,
I have been looking in the Archieves on Info about Monument Valley. Not a
lot in the archives and I guess I should have paid more attention to the
talk in the past. I have bought tickets to fly to Las Vegas.I Plan to get a
rental car and drive over ariving on May,19th. We may have to camp . This will
be
our first time to make the fly-in . Do most of the Kolbers camp at the
Goulding campground. If so is it to late to get a campsite or room the 19th,20th
or 21st? Any current info would be helpful !
Ed Diebel
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley Web Page |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Hey you guys are really hurting me. I missed Sun-Funds and I can't make
Monument Valley or Oshkosh this year.
I have been back in Michigan two weeks and my runway is still too wet to
use. The closest I have been to flying since November has been sitting in
the cockpit this week while making engine noises.
Do Not Archive
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:45 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Web Page
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Well, I guess it's proven that I'm suffering from old-timers disease. I
> started to build the long overdue Monument Valley '05 page tonight, and
> found that I'd already built it, and over 500 people have looked at it.
> How'd I manage
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley Web Page |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
>" Well, I guess it's proven that I'm suffering from old-timers disease. I
>started to build the long overdue Monument Valley '05 page tonight, and
>found that I'd already built it, and over 500 people have looked at it. "
There is a upside to this, you could at least hide your own Easter eggs.
Larry,Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Mounment Valley Fly-in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
You can either camp in the campground or stay in the hotel. I understand
it's quite reasonable, as is the campground. You should call them very
soon, to make sure you can get reservations. It's quite a distance from Las
Vegas. Let me give it a little thought.......there are several routes you
could follow, all very scenic. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <DAquaNut@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mounment Valley Fly-in
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 4/16/2006 6:44:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
>
>
> Really getting excited about the Fourth Annual Unplanned/Unorganized
> Kolb Flyin at MV, UT. If this year is anywhere near as much fun as
> the last three have been, then it will also be an overwelming success.
>
> john h
>
>
> John and Others,
>
> I have been looking in the Archieves on Info about Monument Valley. Not
> a
> lot in the archives and I guess I should have paid more attention to the
> talk in the past. I have bought tickets to fly to Las Vegas.I Plan to get
> a
> rental car and drive over ariving on May,19th. We may have to camp . This
> will be
> our first time to make the fly-in . Do most of the Kolbers camp at the
> Goulding campground. If so is it to late to get a campsite or room the
> 19th,20th
> or 21st? Any current info would be helpful !
>
> Ed Diebel
>
>
>
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