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1. 03:34 AM - Re: Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar (DrHook)
2. 06:11 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 04/18/06 (LISA TURNER)
3. 06:52 AM - Re: BRS VLS (Denny Rowe)
4. 09:00 AM - Re: Re: Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar (Richard Girard)
5. 10:15 AM - Firestar (rap@isp.com)
6. 10:47 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 04/18/06 (Robert Noyer)
7. 10:57 AM - Re: Firestar (Jerry Deckard)
8. 11:24 AM - Re: Firestar (rap@isp.com)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "DrHook" <csgale@yahoo.com>
Great Info Rick!!! Wow, That just about Sum's it Up. Are you sure you didnt leave
anything out?
Seriously guys, thanks for your help.
Chris
Dr. Marvin, "Is this some kinda new theropy?"
Baby Steps
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: LISA TURNER <lisaturner@prodigy.net>
The early bird gets the worm as they say . . . . I guess I should have asked for
more money! No, no, kidding. I'm pleased the BRS found a home so fast. Lisa
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:16 AM - Re: Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar (DrHook)
2. 05:39 AM - Re: Manual In-cockpit Mixture Control for 2-stroke Engines (Thom
Riddle)
3. 06:45 AM - Re: Re: Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar (Richard Girard)
4. 06:45 AM - Re: S&F 2006 Photos and Video Clips (Jack B. Hart)
5. 07:01 AM - MV 2005 (John Hauck)
6. 07:03 AM - Re: Test Flying (pat ladd)
7. 07:24 AM - Re: Monument Valley (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
8. 08:53 AM - TNK (Herb Gayheart)
9. 08:53 AM - Checkout?...I doan need no stinking...... (Beauford)
10. 10:28 AM - 4th Annual Kolb Gathering at Monument Valley, UT (John Williamson)
11. 10:28 AM - 4th Annual Kolb Gathering at Monument Valley, UT (John Williamson)
12. 10:59 AM - In-cockpit mixture control (jratcli256@aol.com)
13. 11:04 AM - This is not kolb related but... (Steve Garvelink)
14. 11:33 AM - Re: This is not kolb related but... (Todd Fredricks)
15. 12:47 PM - Re: BRS VLS (Denny Rowe)
16. 02:00 PM - FS 2 Rib jig (Aaron Gustafson)
17. 02:29 PM - Re: In-cockpit mixture control (Richard Pike)
18. 03:18 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 38 Msgs - 04/17/06 (boyd)
19. 03:26 PM - Re: In-cockpit mixture control (John Jung)
20. 04:14 PM - Re: BRS VLS (John Cooley)
21. 07:35 PM - Re: BRS VLS (N111KX (Kip))
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 03:16:07 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar
From: "DrHook"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "DrHook"
Hey, I just noticed there are two Threads here with the same subject that I posted.
So thanks guys and sorry for not replying, Herb, John, Rick, Larry, Bob &
Steve.
So I will post back in both, I guess. Here is what I ended up doing and replying
back to Mike.
Its all good, Mike
I got the day off yesterday, and went to town, to OSH and found this glass bondo
stuff that has shredded peices of fiberglass in it, with a tube of hardener.
It works great, and it was only $8.95 for a can of it.
Per instructions I cut some peices of 4oz fiberglass cloth on the real bad whole
and rips that I didnt use the epoxy, on the inside of the nose fairing, and
filled the wholes & cracks on the outside.
It bonds really well, and drying time is quick. I just got some small Voids to
fill in, and its all about primer & paint.
The epoxy I used was 30 min epoxy, and I know that stuff is not going anywhere.
I think I spent more time just pondering on weather or not to fix it or re-place
it, than it took me to get it done.
Bob E-mailed me with some suggestions on primer & paint thats I will try.
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Kolb Firestar owner, Rebuild-Recover job at hand.
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________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 05:39:26 AM PST US
From: Thom Riddle
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Manual In-cockpit Mixture Control for 2-stroke Engines
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle
I once owned a Zenith CH 701 with a 582 and the HAC kit on the carbs.
Worked great. I reset the baseline in the early summer and then again
in the fall after the first frost and that was all there was to it.
EGTs stayed good at all altitudes and plugs stayed gray-brown.
Thom in Buffalo
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 06:45:46 AM PST US
From: "Richard Girard"
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Girard"
Well darn, Doc. If I'd known you hadn't done the patch yet, I'd have given
you some tips to save a lot of finish work.
Safety first. Always wear saftey glasses when working with epoxy of any
kind. The hardner is a corrosive agent and a splash in the eye will cause
significant damage if not blind you. The doctors in the ER may minimize the
damage but they cannot reverse it. Always wear protection on your hands, I
use Nitrile gloves after I've smeared on a good layer of liquid gloves.
Epoxy causes a rash like reaction on the skin. Some people are more
sensitive than others, but the reaction can be severe enough to lead to
shock and death. If you are not sensitvie, you can create the sensitivity by
repeated exposure. Work in a well ventilated area, the fumes, even from low
odor epoxy can bring on a reaction, too. It sounds scary, but like most
things, it's just a matter of common sense and good work habits.
The Good Doctor got the surface prep correct. You can't make a chemical bond
between the old substrate and the new 'glass, you'll have to settle for a
good mechanical bond, so rough up the area at least 2" on either side of the
area to be patched. 220 grit sandpaper is the stuff to use but make sure it
has no stearates in it as that will effect bond strength.
You need a couple of other things besides fiberglass and resin to make the
repair EZ to finish. Saran wrap, or other plastic sheeting, Peel Ply ( 100%
polyester cloth ), and a few 1" chip brushes for stippling the resin up
through the cloth. you can buy peel ply at the fabric shop, it's known as
dress sheathing. If you buy it there, make sure it has no sizing agent
applied to it. Sizing agents contain silicone and will ruin the bond
strength of the patch and make further repairs or painting very difficult,
if not impossible. Spruce and Wick's have peel ply in 1" to 6" rolls, as
well as cloth. Buy whatever will overlap the edges of the patch 2" all
around.
An aside here, buy new 'glass to make the repair, don't use any cloth that
is dirty or has been wet. First, because you need to know if the cloth is
UNI (unidirectional cloth, having almost all it's strength in one direction)
or BID (bidirectional cloth that has a roughly equal fiber count in either
direction) You want to use BID. Second, because fiberglass cloth has a
wetting agent applied to it at the factory that does two things. It acts as
a lubricant so that the fibers slide past each other when the glass moves
and stretches and it acts to help break the surface tension so the resin can
wet out the 'glass rather than just encapsulate it. This wetting agent can
also be resin specific. If it comes from the auto parts store the 'glass
could have a wetting agent that works with polyester resin, but not with
epoxy. The kid at the counter will probably have no clue, should you ask. If
in doubt go to a boat shop or better yet, just order the BID cloth approved
by Burt Rutan for his aircraft from Spruce or Wick's. You'll know if the
resin is wetting out the cloth if the cloth changes color to that of the
resin. If the cloth remains white ( a drop of sweat makes a nice white
circle so wear a bandana ), it means the cloth is not wetted out, throw it
away and go get good cloth. Okay, on with the repair.
Cut your patch strips of fiberglass cloth on the bias (threads at 45 degrees
to cut), this lets the glass move and form around curves without puckering
at the edges. Lay out a sheet of Saran wrap, lay your glass on it and work
the resin into the fibers. Once the fiberglass is completely wetted out,
place another piece of plastic over it and squeegee the plastic, fiberglass,
plastic sandwich to work all the excess resin to the edges of the glass and
away from the cloth. All that's required is to wet out the glass, any more
resin than that is excess weight and does nothing for the strength of the
bond or the glass. Peel off the top layer of plastic, apply a light coat of
pure resin to the area to be patched and use the remaining layer of plastic
to control the glass while you put it on the patch area. Peel off the
remaining plastic sheet and squeegee the cloth working from the center to
the edges. Lay the peel ply over the repair area and smooth out. If you
don't use peel ply, the edges of the 'glass will curl and are a bear to
feather out nicely. Don't wet out the peel ply all the way to the edge, you
need to be able to grab it to peel it off after the resin has cured. Once
the peel ply is wetted out you can check your layup by rubbing the peel ply
with paper towels to pull more resin out of the layup. Use caution here as
you can create a resin starved layup if you rub too much. Remember the idea
is have only enough resin to wet out the 'glass and no more. Once the layup
and peel ply are all smoothed out, clean up and have a beer. Incidently,
white vinegar will remove uncured resin from tools like scissors but you
need to oil the tool after cleaning to prevent surface corrosion. My new W20
shears have a nice light brown patina because I forgot this, once.
It's the next day and the resin has cured. Grab the peel ply at a corner and
pull across the patch, not straight up from it, work all around the edges
toward the center. You should find that the 'glass is nicely filled with
resin, requiring very little filler and the edges are nicely tapered out to
the old surface of the part. Sand and fill as described yesterday.
On 4/18/06, DrHook wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "DrHook"
>
> Hey, I just noticed there are two Threads here with the same subject that
> I posted. So thanks guys and sorry for not replying, Herb, John, Rick,
> Larry, Bob & Steve.
> So I will post back in both, I guess. Here is what I ended up doing and
> replying back to Mike.
>
> Its all good, Mike
> I got the day off yesterday, and went to town, to OSH and found this glass
> bondo stuff that has shredded peices of fiberglass in it, with a tube of
> hardener. It works great, and it was only $8.95 for a can of it.
> Per instructions I cut some peices of 4oz fiberglass cloth on the real bad
> whole and rips that I didnt use the epoxy, on the inside of the nose
> fairing, and filled the wholes & cracks on the outside.
> It bonds really well, and drying time is quick. I just got some small
> Voids to fill in, and its all about primer & paint.
> The epoxy I used was 30 min epoxy, and I know that stuff is not going
> anywhere.
> I think I spent more time just pondering on weather or not to fix it or
> re-place it, than it took me to get it done.
> Bob E-mailed me with some suggestions on primer & paint thats I will try.
>
> --------
> Kolb Firestar owner, Rebuild-Recover job at hand.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D29081#29081
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Pining for a home on the Range"
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 06:45:47 AM PST US
From: "Jack B. Hart"
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: S&F 2006 Photos and Video Clips
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart"
At 10:48 AM 4/17/06 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> When I click on the file, up comes Windows Media Player.
>
>Might try Quicktime and/or Real Player.
>
>john h
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
John,
Tried my wife's computer as it is much newer than mine. It played with no
problems. I guess it is time to purchase a new computer.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 07:01:12 AM PST US
From: "John Hauck"
Subject: Kolb-List: MV 2005
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
Morning Gang:
For newbies and a refresher for those that were on the Kolb List last
year, here is a neat web site put together by George Alexander. It is
a collection of photos by a lot of us that attended MV III 2005:
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbflyer/
Many, many thanks, George!!!
john h
mkIII
________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
Time: 07:03:27 AM PST US
From: "pat ladd"
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test Flying
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd"
Sorry Pat,
G-CDFA was the first Xtra with Jab 2200 and VG's to gain full UK type
approval, G-PLAD is the next one though.>>
Hi Mike
something else I got wrong. Cant remember it working that way when I built
the Challenger. I think the dealers pilot just came and gave it a check
flight, about 30 minutes and I did the rest.
Regarding the recurring loss of power when I flew the other night. This
morning I drained and changed the fuel, emptied carb bowls, cleaned filters
and then spent 30 minutes at cruise revs tied to a farm gate post. Engine
ran faultlessly.
Someone else on my strip in a Cub lost their engine on the approach
yesterday. Very experienced ex commercial pilot who put it down to icing.
Perhaps that was my problem
Pat
do not archive
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________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
Time: 07:24:24 AM PST US
From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
Lar,
Great, you'll be right across from me.
AzDave
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne"
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne"
>
> Thanks, Dave. I just called to double check my reservations, and I am
> paid,
> and in space 12. She flat refused to move any of the Airstream group, and
> said to call back in the morning if I'm not happy. Apparently I'm fairly
> close........?? You guys who haven't reserved had better hop to it.
> Lar.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 8:47 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
>>
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>> Guys,
>>
>> I just made my reservations from the 17th thru the 21st and I'm in
>> space 11. There's a bunch of Airstream people there around the same time
>> so it's probably best to make reservations asap. I couldn't get space 48
>> which is what I wanted but space 11 is near the tent camping area - just
>> over the hill like we were a couple of years ago. Spaces 10 on down are
>> still available. I think spaces 12 on up will be available if anyone is
>> coming in late, like on the 19th or later because the airstream people
>> are
>> leaving around that time. Phone number is 435 727-3235. I asked if the
>> tent guys need to make reservations and his answer was kinda wishy washy.
>> I don't think the tenters HAVE to have a reservation but he said he'd
>> like
>> them to call first - whatever that means. Oh, and when you make your
>> reservations, tell him you're with the Kolb bunch.
>>
>> AzDave
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________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
Time: 08:53:02 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: TNK
From: Herb Gayheart
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart
Kolbers and Kolbettes
Just got off the phone with the Factory.. They said to tell all
that Sun N Fun was great for them this year.. And thanks a bunch to all
of those who bought MKIIIX's .. Mostly with 912's.
Factory is running full bore.. Fireflys and Firestars on order
also.. :-) Herb
________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________
Time: 08:53:02 AM PST US
From: "Beauford"
Subject: Kolb-List: Checkout?...I doan need no stinking......
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford"
Subject: Let's Hear It For Checkouts...
Kolbers and Kolbettes...
More follies on the Local airstrip... Food for thought on the subject of
self-taught aviation...which was, as I recall, a topic on this List not
too long ago...
A week ago last Sunday, a gent crumped his factory-fresh Aventura
"Ultralight" amphibian on the friendly sands of Manatee... Seems he had
never received any instruction or checkout in the machine... Had been waiting
for an appointment to get a training session or two and get signed off in it...
but that didn't work out, so he decided to just go ahead and check himself out...
Hell, it's just another airplane, right...? He had a right smart bit of time in
other
ultralights, right....? Can't be that much different, right....?
He lucked out... only has broken arm, broken leg, and broken hip....
The new airplane appears to be pretty much toast... A lot of the primary
structure is bent or warped...port gear is ripped off...
The 582 and the prop look OK...
....and the beat goes on....
Beauford
FF #076
Brandon, FL
________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________
Time: 10:28:30 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: 4th Annual Kolb Gathering at Monument Valley, UT
From: "John Williamson"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
Hello Everybody,
This is the only advertisment for this event!
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
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________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________
Time: 10:28:30 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: 4th Annual Kolb Gathering at Monument Valley, UT
From: "John Williamson"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
Hello Everybody,
This is the only advertisment for this event!
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
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________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________
Time: 10:59:05 AM PST US
From: jratcli256@aol.com
Subject: Kolb-List: In-cockpit mixture control
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jratcli256@aol.com
Dick C.,
My understanding about Rotax 2-cycle engines is that you should change carb jets
for approx. each 1500' additional altitude you fly at. Fudge factor considered
this still seems to limit your choices. I would like to be less restrained
in choices to be able to avoid the ground thermals.
$180.00 doesn't seem too bad considering that a 4-stroke would run about $7500
more installed.
Steve,
Will check with Bryan for his input on this. thanks for the reference.
John Ratcliffe
jratcli256@aol.com
________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________
Time: 11:04:11 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: This is not kolb related but...
From: "Steve Garvelink"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink"
I thought you guys might get a kick out of this video. it plays on a google page
and should work if you click on the link. Jack, before you buy a new computer
you may want to download the latest windows media play.
Steve Garvelink
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=163331162673210702
do not archive
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________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________
Time: 11:33:14 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: This is not kolb related but...
From: Todd Fredricks
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks
That rocks!
Todd
DO NOT ARCHIVE
On 4/18/06 2:03 PM, "Steve Garvelink"
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> I thought you guys might get a kick out of this video. it plays on a google
> page and should work if you click on the link. Jack, before you buy a new
> computer you may want to download the latest windows media play.
>
> Steve Garvelink
>
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> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=163331162673210702
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Todd Fredricks, DO
Flying Fox Services
Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com
POWERED BY MAC
________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________
Time: 12:47:41 PM PST US
From: "Denny Rowe"
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS VLS
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe"
OK,
Who was the lucky sap who beat me to Lisa's chute?
I was late in seeing her offer as I'm working 72-80 hr weeks lately. :-(
Denny (crying in my money) Rowe
Mk-3
----- Original Message -----
From: "LISA TURNER"
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 2:20 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: BRS VLS
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: LISA TURNER
>
> Fellow Kolbers,
>
> Since I'm selling my Mark III to David Key and he does not want the BRS,
> I have a brand new re-packed and checked by BRS (January 06) VLS 1050
> never mounted for sale for $1,200. I paid $3,400 for it (2001) and
> another $800 in January to have updated and repacked in the aerodynamic
> VLS cannister. If anyone wants it let me know otherwise I'll put it on
> eBay and see what happens! David is going to finish this project up and I
> bought a Rotorway Helicopter Kit (just a Kolb with much smaller wings . .
> . :-) ). Now if I could figure out how to mount a BRS to the helicopter
> rotor . . . . . . hope you guys don't mind if I still lurk on your
> excellent interchanges from time to time. David is a great Kolb driver
> and will be a good addition to the family. After the helicopter there may
> be another Kolb for me . . . probably a single seater. I'll rely on your
> advice! Take care. Lese
>
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> Total Messages Posted Sat 04/15/06: 31
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> 1. 01:26 AM - Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ??? (planecrazzzy)
> 2. 01:53 AM - Re: test&update (planecrazzzy)
> 3. 07:51 AM - Re: R Wing needed for Firestar (John Jung)
> 4. 08:24 AM - Re: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard engineering&quo
> (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
> 5. 09:39 AM - Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (pat ladd)
> 6. 11:35 AM - Re: New video from Montreal (Noel)
> 7. 11:43 AM - Shaking strut ... (Noel)
> 8. 11:50 AM - Test Flying (John Hauck)
> 9. 11:58 AM - Re: Shaking strut ... (Blumax008@aol.com)
> 10. 12:21 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (Blumax008@aol.com)
> 11. 12:31 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (N111KX (Kip))
> 12. 12:49 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (John Hauck)
> 13. 01:03 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (John Hauck)
> 14. 01:37 PM - Re: Shaking strut ... (Bob Dalton)
> 15. 02:04 PM - Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (russ kinne)
> 16. 02:13 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (russ kinne)
> 17. 02:54 PM - Streamline Lift Struts / Homemade (planecrazzzy)
> 18. 03:27 PM - HKS (Jerry Deckard)
> 19. 04:20 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (John Hauck)
> 20. 04:20 PM - Re: HKS (John Hauck)
> 21. 04:25 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> (planecrazzzy)
> 22. 04:35 PM - Re: HKS (Jerry Deckard)
> 23. 04:47 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (John Hauck)
> 24. 05:21 PM - FireStar II sunset flight (WillUribe@aol.com)
> 25. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
> 26. 05:53 PM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (John Hauck)
> 27. 06:09 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> (planecrazzzy)
> 28. 06:10 PM - Re: Sun 'N Fun (cspoke)
> 29. 06:24 PM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (Richard Pike)
> 30. 07:34 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (Possum)
> 31. 08:02 PM - Alternitive Engines For Firestar (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:26:51 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ???
> From: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> Hey big Lar,
> If you cooperate....I can try.
>
> First, we'll start with 12V DC , if that doesn't get ya goin....
>
> We'll go staight to AC ....say 120 ....240....480....
>
> You know, you did all that work for years...now your SO CLOSE
>
> That in itself should be really good motivation...just one small(er) oil
> leak
>
> keeping you from flying.....Well, that and a mountain of paperchasing...
>
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN
>
>
> biglar wrote:
>> Kin ya do anything 'bout laziness ?? Do not Archive.
>>
>> Larry Bourne
>> Palm Springs, CA
>> Building Kolb Mk III
>> N78LB Vamoose
>> www.gogittum.com
>>
>> ---
>
>
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> ..
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> ..
> .Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28507#28507
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:53:22 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: test&update
> From: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> Hi Paul,
> Got all the hinges marked and the cables tagged?......I guess you'll
> have to strip your cage down too....
> I remember when "I" was at that stage....it was looking like an airplane
> and then I had to tear it all down, back to a bunch of parts...
>
> Oh, the " where am I in building"....We already have one...
>
> It's called the "Kolb List".....He he he
>
>
> Good luck with your fabric and painting.......
>
> Pictures,pictures pictures......That's what we want to see......
>
> ..
> ..
> .
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN / N381PM
>
>
> Paul P wrote:
>> Hi Kolbers,
>> I have a new computer and lost the info on the BBS. Starting over
>> here.....As
> for Ms Dixie she comes apart this weekend for covering! What are other
> builders
> up to? Maybe we need a thread on "Where I am in my building" and what I am
> building perhaps.
>>
>> Greetings from Harris Hollow
>>
>> Regards,
>> Paul Petty
>> Kolbra 012
>> 912UL
>>
>> do not archive
>
>
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> ..
> ..
> ..
> .Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28508#28508
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:51:22 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: R Wing needed for Firestar
> From: "John Jung"
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung"
>
>
> Livair wrote:
>> Are there other models that have the same wing? Is the Twinstar or
>> Ultrastar
> wing by any chance the same?
>
>
> I believe that the Mark II has the same wing as the Firestar II. But
> unless you
> find one close to you, the transportation costs could be more than
> rebuilding
> or building new. Doesn't hurt to search, though.
> do not archive
>
> --------
> John Jung
> Firestar II N6163J
> Surprise, AZ
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28545#28545
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:24:58 AM PST US
> From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard
> engineering&quo
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
>
> Todd you have taken the words out of my mouth there shouldnt even be a
> question of what is a better plane just take a look at the design &
> Construction
> of
> each of them and this should answer your question
>
> Ellery in Firestar
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:39:07 AM PST US
> From: "pat ladd"
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd"
>
>
> I go on O2 at 1000'! -- how could I manage that in a Kolb ? Maybe I'd
> never fly that high anyway -->>
>
> Hi Russ,
>
> I assume you meant 10,000 ft..
> Mick Moulai tells me today that he had my Xtra up to 10500ft and still
> climbing yesterday as part of the test programme on my machine.
>
> The programme is almost finished and I may actually get my hands on the
> plane myself in the next couple of weeks.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
> --
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:35:29 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New video from Montreal
> From: "Noel"
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel"
>
> Hello Bill !
>
> Thanks for your comments !
> This was at 2500 feet ... the higest altitude allowed in that area
> (without contacting
> the Mirabel airport tower).
>
> Nol
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28578#28578
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:43:43 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
> From: "Noel"
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel"
>
> Hello all !
>
> I have often noticed some vibration of the wing struts of my Twinstar MK
> II .
> This happens at a given RPM when the strut seems to hit a "resonance"
> point and
> start to vibrate. This never bothered me too much as it seems to only
> happens
> at a RPM of around 4500 .
>
> Now ... i took some picture with my camera phone while flying yesterday
> that happens to "catch " these vibrations on the picture.
> I have been quite surprised when i saw that picture with the apparently
> quite large
> amplitude of the vibration ! Quite amazing ... but it could also be
> an optical "effect" created or amplified by the relatively low shutter
> speed of
> the camera ...
>
> In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try tio
> fix
> the "problem" .
>
> I have seen some modular plastic fairing that can easily be installed on a
> Rans
> S-12 (i think) ... These are made of 2 plastic parts that "snap" together
> to
> form a "water drop" shaped fairing ...
>
> Any one could submit a source for these ?
>
> Good and safle flying to all ...
>
> Noel Bouchard
> Twinstar MK II
> 350 Hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28579#28579
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/shakingstrut_987.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:50:36 AM PST US
> From: "John Hauck"
> Subject: Kolb-List: Test Flying
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> the
>
>
> Patrick:
>
> Here in the States we get to be our own test pilot for our own
> aircraft.
>
> Is there a requirement for a designated person to test your homebuilt
> aircraft?
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:58:32 AM PST US
> From: Blumax008@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 4/15/2006 2:44:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> noel@teledata.qc.ca writes:
>
> In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try tio
> fix the "problem" .
>
>
> My '04 and 503 powered Firestar II does the same thing depending on how
> the
> 503 feels like eating it's oats. I have the strut fairings too...same
> deal. I
>
> let the sumbitch vibrate. If the strut fails, I got the 'chute.
>
> Wild Bill Catalina
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:21:30 PM PST US
> From: Blumax008@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
>
> I figured that would get someone's attention! LOL!
>
> This is just food for thought for all you potential BRS deployers out
> there.
> I use my Firestar II for aerial photography for a major developer here in
> north Florida.
>
> I shoot at 12,000 ft. every week. Yes, it'll go that high, just be
> patient,
> breathe good & carry lots of fuel for the long burn. Anyway, I was waaay
> up
> there freezing my butt off, banking hard over, getting scared again &
> started
>
> thinking....
>
> Me thinking..."You know, with this 40mph north wind blowing & me being
> over
> the coast, if I had an accidental 'chute deployment, I'd be at least 5
> miles
> out in the Gulp of Mexico before I landed in the water! Also, if I did
> actually have to use that sucker & deployed it too soon at too high an
> altitude...I'd be at least 5 miles out in the Gulp of Mexico!"
>
> So...my point being, & I don't think this has ever been brought up...be
> concious of where you are, how high you are & where the wind may blow you
> if you
>
> really do need to use a 'chute! I've never heard of it happening before
> but
> an accidental or intentional deployment (at altitude) could put your butt
> in a
>
> very serious situation. Be prepared to ride it down to a safer altitude
> before deployment...if needed...and hope the sumbitch doesn't ever
> accidentally
>
> deploy due to some brain or equipment malfunction.
>
> I'm even thinking about removing it. This is the first aircraft I've ever
> had in 28 years of flying ultralights that had a BRS. Be somethin' if I
> saved
>
> myself via BRS...only to drown later. Like I said...food for thought.
>
> Wild Bill Catalina
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 11
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:31:21 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: BRS Deployment...
> From: "N111KX (Kip)"
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "N111KX (Kip)"
>
> Just ride it down to 700 AGL then pull Big Red:)
> Kip
>
> --------
> Kip
> Firestar II (born September 2000)
> Atlanta, GA
> N111KX
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28591#28591
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 12
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:49:05 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck"
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> thought.
>
> Heard the very same statement several times from different pilots over
> the years, "thinking about removing it."
>
> I can assure you, if you need it and it is laying on the bench in the
> hangar, you gonna wish you had it.
>
> Might be a good idea to purchase and wear an inflatable PFD when
> flying near and or over water. I bought one a few days prior to
> flying to S&F from Acft Spruce. Paid $118.00 for it. Will be worth
> every penny if the time should arise when I need it, and I have it
> firmly attached to my body.
>
> Deciding when and where one will deploy their BRS during an emergency
> situation may live little room for decision making at different
> altitudes.
>
>>From personal experience, I did not have a choice either time. It was
> imperative to make the decision immediately or die.
>
> Another point to consider is:
>
> If and when the emergency arises, the aircraft may not be in a docile,
> stable descent. It very well make be tumbling rapidly, spinning
> wildly, with such centrifugal force that one may not be able to raise
> a hand to find, grasp, and pull the deployment handle.
>
> If one can afford to install a ballistic recovery system, one should.
> One should also not be afraid to use it, should the situation present
> itself. It gives you another chance when all other options have
> expired.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 13
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:03:04 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck"
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
>
> emergency
>
>
> The above should have read:
>
> "Deciding when and where one will deploy their BRS during an emergency
> situation my leave little room for decision making at different
> altitudes."
>
> Thanks,
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 14
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:37:40 PM PST US
> From: "Bob Dalton"
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton"
>
> Noel,
>
> Look's as though the strut is distorted from your lexan being photographed
> through, you do have a canopy on right. Look at the landscape you will see
> your straight lines are distorted also. Just my guess though.
>
> Bob D.
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:43 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel"
>
> Hello all !
>
> I have often noticed some vibration of the wing struts of my Twinstar MK
> II
> ..
> This happens at a given RPM when the strut seems to hit a "resonance"
> point
> and start to vibrate. This never bothered me too much as it seems to only
> happens at a RPM of around 4500 .
>
> Now ... i took some picture with my camera phone while flying yesterday
> that happens to "catch " these vibrations on the picture.
> I have been quite surprised when i saw that picture with the apparently
> quite large amplitude of the vibration ! Quite amazing ... but it could
> also
> be
> an optical "effect" created or amplified by the relatively low shutter
> speed
> of the camera ...
>
> In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try tio
> fix the "problem" .
>
> I have seen some modular plastic fairing that can easily be installed on a
> Rans S-12 (i think) ... These are made of 2 plastic parts that "snap"
> together to form a "water drop" shaped fairing ...
>
> Any one could submit a source for these ?
>
> Good and safle flying to all ...
>
> Noel Bouchard
> Twinstar MK II
> 350 Hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28579#28579
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/shakingstrut_987.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 15
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:04:35 PM PST US
> From: russ kinne
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne
>
> Pat
> No, I meant 1,000 feet! -- the low level is where I work -- & shine.
> And smile!
> Glad to hear your bird got to 10,500! You'll have a ball when all the
> folderol is over --
> Fair winds,
> Russ
>
> do not archive
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2006, at 12:27 PM, pat ladd wrote:
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd"
>
>>
>> I go on O2 at 1000'! -- how could I manage that in a Kolb ? Maybe
>> I'd
>> never fly that high anyway -->>
>>
>> Hi Russ,
>>
>> I assume you meant 10,000 ft..
>> Mick Moulai tells me today that he had my Xtra up to 10500ft and still
>> climbing yesterday as part of the test programme on my machine.
>>
>> The programme is almost finished and I may actually get my hands on
>> the
>> plane myself in the next couple of weeks.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 16
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:13:15 PM PST US
> From: russ kinne
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne
>
> Wild Bill
> FWIW -- did you ever consider wearing a divers wet-suit jacket?
> Comfortable, good insulation, and if you ditch you'd be afloat, face
> up and out of the water, conscious or not. I use them over cold water
> where the legal preservers would keep you afloat and dead. I'd rather
> be illegal and alive
>
> On Apr 15, 2006, at 3:20 PM, Blumax008@aol.com wrote:
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
>>
>> I figured that would get someone's attention! LOL!
>>
>> This is just food for thought for all you potential BRS deployers
>> out there.
>> I use my Firestar II for aerial photography for a major developer
>> here in
>> north Florida.
>>
>> I shoot at 12,000 ft. every week. Yes, it'll go that high, just be
>> patient,
>> breathe good & carry lots of fuel for the long burn. Anyway, I was
>> waaay up
>> there freezing my butt off, banking hard over, getting scared
>> again & started
>> thinking....
>>
>> Me thinking..."You know, with this 40mph north wind blowing & me
>> being over
>> the coast, if I had an accidental 'chute deployment, I'd be at
>> least 5 miles
>> out in the Gulp of Mexico before I landed in the water! Also, if I
>> did
>> actually have to use that sucker & deployed it too soon at too
>> high an
>> altitude...I'd be at least 5 miles out in the Gulp of Mexico!"
>>
>> So...my point being, & I don't think this has ever been brought
>> up...be
>> concious of where you are, how high you are & where the wind may
>> blow you if you
>> really do need to use a 'chute! I've never heard of it happening
>> before but
>> an accidental or intentional deployment (at altitude) could put
>> your butt in a
>> very serious situation. Be prepared to ride it down to a safer
>> altitude
>> before deployment...if needed...and hope the sumbitch doesn't ever
>> accidentally
>> deploy due to some brain or equipment malfunction.
>>
>> I'm even thinking about removing it. This is the first aircraft
>> I've ever
>> had in 28 years of flying ultralights that had a BRS. Be somethin'
>> if I saved
>> myself via BRS...only to drown later. Like I said...food for thought.
>>
>> Wild Bill Catalina
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 17
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:54:56 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Streamline Lift Struts / Homemade
> From: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I've been making some streamline lift struts for my Firestar II
>
> When I fly with the "stock" lift struts...They sometimes start to
>
> vibrate and wiggle in flight.....I bought some aluminum and sheared
>
> two pieces 70" x 9 1/4" ....I put them thru the rollers a few times
>
> until they had about a 20" radius to them,Then with a "knife edge"
>
> and a rubber lower die....I bent them in half in the Break.....
>
> I was experimenting with the TIG , to get it small enough to weld
>
> the seam, I wasn't having much luck with the machine "I" had...So I
>
> used the MIG gun....Dialed it in and had a pretty good bead going.
>
> Then I've been working on cleaning them up and polishing them...
>
> I'm waiting on some AN bolts...Their ready to put on....LATER ,
>
> I'm thinking of making some fairings to extend the streamline struts
>
> to a smoother finish.....I haven't seen ANYBODY try to clean that
>
> area up,I think it looks kind of funny when the streamline just stops...
>
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN
>
> PS It was 12 bucks worth of aluminum...and working thru lunches...
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..
>
> --------
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..
> .Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28610#28610
>
>
> Attachments:
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/streamline_lift_struts_002_601.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/streamline_lift_struts_001_198.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 18
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:27:06 PM PST US
> From: "Jerry Deckard"
> Subject: Kolb-List: HKS
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard"
>
> Anyone ever put an HKS on a Firestar? With fuel prices I am considering
> it.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 19
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:20:15 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> From: "John Hauck"
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> Fairings turned out great!
>
> What thickness alumuninum sheet did you use?
>
> --------
> John Hauck
> MKIII/912ULS
> hauck's holler, alabama
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28622#28622
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 20
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:20:15 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck"
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> considering it.
>
> Gerry Olenik was my next door neighbor while camping at S&F. We
> talked about HKS and FS. I believe he is going to do some
> investigating into the possibility of an HKS powered FS.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 21
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:25:52 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> From: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> Hi John,
> Thanks......
>
> I went to the "Discount Steel" down the street from me....I was looking
>
> For anything in their "Drop" section at least 70" x 18"
>
> I found a piece 70.5" x 18.5 it was 1/16" thick ( 16 gauge ? )
>
> Which was about my limit on thickness..... it's a little thinner since
> I've
>
> used some 220 with a DA , then scuff pad , then 500 grit wet sand....
>
> They can still use some more polishing...But I'm in the ballpark...
>
>
> I got the directions from your brother "Jim" to make the lift struts like
>
> you have....but I thought I'd try this first.....If it didn't work... I'd
> only
>
> be "out" 12 bucks...
>
> ..
> ..
> .
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN / N381PM
>
> --------
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..
> .Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28625#28625
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 22
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:35:17 PM PST US
> From: "Jerry Deckard"
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard"
>
> Thanks,
> I have a new 447 and box, that would help offset the cost of the HKS.
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Hauck"
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 6:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>
>> considering it.
>>
>> Gerry Olenik was my next door neighbor while camping at S&F. We
>> talked about HKS and FS. I believe he is going to do some
>> investigating into the possibility of an HKS powered FS.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 23
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:47:37 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> From: "John Hauck"
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> Those fairings over some round 4130 lift struts would probably work well.
> Be nice
> and solid.
>
> --------
> John Hauck
> MKIII/912ULS
> hauck's holler, alabama
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28628#28628
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 24
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:21:25 PM PST US
> From: WillUribe@aol.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: FireStar II sunset flight
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
> Greetings,
>
> This video was taken yesterday a little after sunset. It has been very
> windy here in the southwest so anytime we get calm air we go out and fly.
>
> _http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv_
> (http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv)
>
> Enjoy,
> Guillermo Uribe
> FireStar II N4GU
> El Paso, TX
> _http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/_ (http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/)
> _http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/_ (http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 25
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:43:18 PM PST US
> From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
>
> I would like to add farings to my struts also to make it look better but I
> think it would have to be something that one could install easy because I
> have
>
> to fold & unfold every time I fly wich is often mabe someone in the
> plastic
> molding business can come up with something that just fits tight to the
> streamline struts that we could slide up to the wing and down to the cadge
> anyone
> got
> any leads ? on something like that let us know
>
> Ellery in Maine flying a old firestar but its like new now
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 26
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:53:05 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck"
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar II sunset flight
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> Enjoyed the video. Place looks familiar.
>
> Your pulsating landing lights are very effective. They are difficult
> to ignore, and more noticeable than the strobes when flying head on.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 27
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:09:04 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> From: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> I will be sliding my "stock" lift struts through these "sleeves"....
>
> I will be able to put three ( new, longer ) AN bolts thru the Top of the
> Lift
>
>
> strut....but the lower end has the bolts facing towards the rear.....I'm
>
> going to cotter pin those nuts....and cut three inspection holes to see
> that
>
> things look good..... I fold my plane each time too....
>
> nothing fancy here....just trying to solve the lift strut vibration....
>
> Because the lower bolts don't hold the sleeve....I'll have to see how
> tight
>
> the sleeve will be , I don't think it's gonna move around...If it
> does,I'll
>
> put a squeeze on it somehow.... I was thinking about shooting
>
> expanding foam in the gap....but I'm afraid of moister
>
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN
>
> PS If you want PVC Streamline Strut Tubing.....
>
> 10' sections part # A2685 price $47.49 - in the L.E.A.F. catolog
> For tubing Dia from 1" to 2" ......there ya go.
>
> --------
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..
> .Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28640#28640
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 28
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:10:31 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Sun 'N Fun
> From: "cspoke"
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "cspoke"
>
> Hi Bill,
> I'm new to posting on the list. I've been reading for several months and
> got alot
> of good information. Sun N Fun was good for me. While I was there, I
> purchased
> a Mark 111 Xtra kit. I meet the Kolb factory people and John Hauck. Great
> people with a great airplane. I can't wait to start building. I'm sure
> that I
> will have many questions. BTW Bill, I see that you are in the UP. I
> recently moved
> from Michigan to the Gulf Coast of Alabama. No snow here. My Dad is from
> Iron River Michigan. The family still has a hunting camp there. Oh,,,,the
> show
> at Sun N Fun was good too. Lots of airplanes to look at.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28642#28642
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 29
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:24:19 PM PST US
> From: Richard Pike
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar II sunset flight
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike
>
> Great video Will.
> What kind of the lights and strobe?
> And how did you do the landing light pulse?
> I think I need to spend some money for that sort of setup...
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> WillUribe@aol.com wrote:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> This video was taken yesterday a little after sunset. It has been very
>> windy here in the southwest so anytime we get calm air we go out and fly.
>>
>> _http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv_
>> (http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv)
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> Guillermo Uribe
>> FireStar II N4GU
>> El Paso, TX
>> _http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/_ (http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/)
>> _http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/_ (http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 30
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:34:32 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> From: "Possum"
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Possum"
>
>
> planecrazzzy wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I've been making some streamline lift struts(sleeves) for my Firestar II
>>
>> When I fly with the "stock" lift struts...They sometimes start to
>>
>> vibrate and wiggle in flight.....I bought some aluminum and sheared
>>
>> two pieces 70" x 9 1/4" ....I put them thru the rollers a few times
>>
>> until they had about a 20" radius to them,Then with a "knife edge"
>>
>> and a rubber lower die....I bent them in half in the Break.....
>>
>>
>> .
>
>
> I did almost the same thing - except used a lot thiner alum - rolled the
> edges
> just enough to wrap around the top & bottom of the struts 1/2 inch +-,
> then bent
> in half with a "break" like you did. Used rivets to attach to the struts.
> It
> also eliminated the vibrating strut problem with out adding more tha a
> pound
> of weight. T6061 alum - I think?
> Don't have any real close up pictures, the rolled edges are hard to see
> anyway.
> It make more of a tear drop shape - but the difference in drag is
> negligible
> at our speeds.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28661#28661
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/seat2_832.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/seat1_270.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 31
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:02:33 PM PST US
> From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
> Subject: Kolb-List: Alternitive Engines For Firestar
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
>
> Jerry
>
> I don't know much about the package but something to consider is the
> Generac
> engine Valley Engineering is developing a reduction drive for.
> http://www.culverprops.com/new-engine.htm These are the guys that make the
> redrive for my VW. They have spent considerable effort in taming the
> harmonic vibrations that the engine/psru/prop has with the V twin engine
> configuration. They have some long term hope to completely smooth out my
> VW
> with a similar solution.
>
> Food for thought and a much lower price solution.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Deckard"
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard"
>>
>> Thanks,
>> I have a new 447 and box, that would help offset the cost of the HKS.
>> Jerry
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Hauck"
>> To:
>> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 6:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>>
>>
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>>
>>> | Anyone ever put an HKS on a Firestar? With fuel prices I am
>>> considering it.
>>> |
>>> | Jerry
>>>
>>> Gerry Olenik was my next door neighbor while camping at S&F. We
>>> talked about HKS and FS. I believe he is going to do some
>>> investigating into the possibility of an HKS powered FS.
>>>
>>> john h
>>> mkIII
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Lese
>
> Lisa P. Turner
> lisaturner@lisaturner.com
> 561-866-0011
>
>
> --
>
>
________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________
Time: 02:00:39 PM PST US
From: "Aaron Gustafson"
Subject: Kolb-List: FS 2 Rib jig
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Gustafson"
I have a nice jig for building Firestar wing ribs. Way better than plans device.
You pay shipping and it's you'rs. Upper Michigan
Aaron
________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________
Time: 02:29:19 PM PST US
From: Richard Pike
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: In-cockpit mixture control
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike
A lot has to do with how rich you normally run. If your engine is
running around 1000 degrees EGT or less at the altitudes you normally
fly, you will not be happy when you start to climb. But I try and keep
my EGT's in cruise around 1100 - 1125 at 2000 MSL, and the 582 still
runs fine at 7,500' MSL.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
jratcli256@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jratcli256@aol.com
>
> Dick C.,
>
> My understanding about Rotax 2-cycle engines is that you should change carb jets
for approx. each 1500' additional altitude you fly at. Fudge factor considered
this still seems to limit your choices. I would like to be less restrained
in choices to be able to avoid the ground thermals.
>
> $180.00 doesn't seem too bad considering that a 4-stroke would run about $7500
more installed.
>
> Steve,
>
> Will check with Bryan for his input on this. thanks for the reference.
>
> John Ratcliffe
> jratcli256@aol.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________
Time: 03:18:20 PM PST US
From: "boyd"
Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 38 Msgs - 04/17/06
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd"
Boyd:
Check with Ronnie Smith at:
http://www.flysmla.com/home.htm
john h
mkIII
DO NOT ARCHIVE
I first ordered it through CPS... they gave me a delivery date of 4
days.... when it did not show up I called and got the 2 to 3 month
delay...... they also told me to call LEAF or Lockwood.... I called LEAF
and they had them in stock and it is ordered.
Boyd
Thank you for the link..... I think I will call and get a tracking number
and if they don't have one I will reconsider.
________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________
Time: 03:26:47 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: In-cockpit mixture control
From: "John Jung"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung"
jratcli256(at)aol.com wrote:
> Dick C.,
>
> My understanding about Rotax 2-cycle engines is that you should change carb jets
for approx. each 1500' additional altitude you fly at. Fudge factor considered
this still seems to limit your choices. I would like to be less restrained
in choices to be able to avoid the ground thermals.
John,
I doubt that jetting will prevent you from climbing out of ground thermals in most
any Kolb. Years ago, with an original Firestar and a 377, I climbed to 17,000
ASL. And I did not rejet for the flight. I was jetted to fly out of the 1,000
foot elevation field that I took off from.
I've been running stock carbs on my 503 for 9 years and I never failed to climb
up over thermals, if I wanted to. Once, I was at 9,000 feet, trying to find
smooth air. I had 2.5 more hours to go that day, and fighting the stick was getting
me tired. Above broken clouds, I found smooth air at 12,000 ASL. No change
in jetting for that either.
do not archive
--------
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=29235#29235
________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________
Time: 04:14:07 PM PST US
From: "John Cooley"
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: BRS VLS
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley"
Hey Denny,
I was hoping it was me, I sent her a private email 50 minutes after her
post, but have not heard anything back.
How about it Lisa, who got first dibs.
John Cooley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Denny Rowe
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS VLS
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe"
OK,
Who was the lucky sap who beat me to Lisa's chute?
I was late in seeing her offer as I'm working 72-80 hr weeks lately. :-(
Denny (crying in my money) Rowe
Mk-3
----- Original Message -----
From: "LISA TURNER"
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 2:20 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: BRS VLS
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: LISA TURNER
>
> Fellow Kolbers,
>
> Since I'm selling my Mark III to David Key and he does not want the BRS,
> I have a brand new re-packed and checked by BRS (January 06) VLS 1050
> never mounted for sale for $1,200. I paid $3,400 for it (2001) and
> another $800 in January to have updated and repacked in the aerodynamic
> VLS cannister. If anyone wants it let me know otherwise I'll put it on
> eBay and see what happens! David is going to finish this project up and I
> bought a Rotorway Helicopter Kit (just a Kolb with much smaller wings . .
> . :-) ). Now if I could figure out how to mount a BRS to the helicopter
> rotor . . . . . . hope you guys don't mind if I still lurk on your
> excellent interchanges from time to time. David is a great Kolb driver
> and will be a good addition to the family. After the helicopter there may
> be another Kolb for me . . . probably a single seater. I'll rely on your
> advice! Take care. Lese
>
> Kolb-List Digest Server wrote:
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> Total Messages Posted Sat 04/15/06: 31
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 01:26 AM - Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ??? (planecrazzzy)
> 2. 01:53 AM - Re: test&update (planecrazzzy)
> 3. 07:51 AM - Re: R Wing needed for Firestar (John Jung)
> 4. 08:24 AM - Re: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard engineering&quo
> (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
> 5. 09:39 AM - Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (pat ladd)
> 6. 11:35 AM - Re: New video from Montreal (Noel)
> 7. 11:43 AM - Shaking strut ... (Noel)
> 8. 11:50 AM - Test Flying (John Hauck)
> 9. 11:58 AM - Re: Shaking strut ... (Blumax008@aol.com)
> 10. 12:21 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (Blumax008@aol.com)
> 11. 12:31 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (N111KX (Kip))
> 12. 12:49 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (John Hauck)
> 13. 01:03 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (John Hauck)
> 14. 01:37 PM - Re: Shaking strut ... (Bob Dalton)
> 15. 02:04 PM - Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (russ kinne)
> 16. 02:13 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (russ kinne)
> 17. 02:54 PM - Streamline Lift Struts / Homemade (planecrazzzy)
> 18. 03:27 PM - HKS (Jerry Deckard)
> 19. 04:20 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (John Hauck)
> 20. 04:20 PM - Re: HKS (John Hauck)
> 21. 04:25 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> (planecrazzzy)
> 22. 04:35 PM - Re: HKS (Jerry Deckard)
> 23. 04:47 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (John Hauck)
> 24. 05:21 PM - FireStar II sunset flight (WillUribe@aol.com)
> 25. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
> 26. 05:53 PM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (John Hauck)
> 27. 06:09 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> (planecrazzzy)
> 28. 06:10 PM - Re: Sun 'N Fun (cspoke)
> 29. 06:24 PM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (Richard Pike)
> 30. 07:34 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (Possum)
> 31. 08:02 PM - Alternitive Engines For Firestar (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:26:51 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ???
> From: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> Hey big Lar,
> If you cooperate....I can try.
>
> First, we'll start with 12V DC , if that doesn't get ya goin....
>
> We'll go staight to AC ....say 120 ....240....480....
>
> You know, you did all that work for years...now your SO CLOSE
>
> That in itself should be really good motivation...just one small(er) oil
> leak
>
> keeping you from flying.....Well, that and a mountain of paperchasing...
>
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN
>
>
> biglar wrote:
>> Kin ya do anything 'bout laziness ?? Do not Archive.
>>
>> Larry Bourne
>> Palm Springs, CA
>> Building Kolb Mk III
>> N78LB Vamoose
>> www.gogittum.com
>>
>> ---
>
>
> --------
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..
> .Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28507#28507
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:53:22 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: test&update
> From: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> Hi Paul,
> Got all the hinges marked and the cables tagged?......I guess you'll
> have to strip your cage down too....
> I remember when "I" was at that stage....it was looking like an airplane
> and then I had to tear it all down, back to a bunch of parts...
>
> Oh, the " where am I in building"....We already have one...
>
> It's called the "Kolb List".....He he he
>
>
> Good luck with your fabric and painting.......
>
> Pictures,pictures pictures......That's what we want to see......
>
> ..
> ..
> .
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN / N381PM
>
>
> Paul P wrote:
>> Hi Kolbers,
>> I have a new computer and lost the info on the BBS. Starting over
>> here.....As
> for Ms Dixie she comes apart this weekend for covering! What are other
> builders
> up to? Maybe we need a thread on "Where I am in my building" and what I am
> building perhaps.
>>
>> Greetings from Harris Hollow
>>
>> Regards,
>> Paul Petty
>> Kolbra 012
>> 912UL
>>
>> do not archive
>
>
> --------
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..
> .Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28508#28508
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:51:22 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: R Wing needed for Firestar
> From: "John Jung"
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung"
>
>
> Livair wrote:
>> Are there other models that have the same wing? Is the Twinstar or
>> Ultrastar
> wing by any chance the same?
>
>
> I believe that the Mark II has the same wing as the Firestar II. But
> unless you
> find one close to you, the transportation costs could be more than
> rebuilding
> or building new. Doesn't hurt to search, though.
> do not archive
>
> --------
> John Jung
> Firestar II N6163J
> Surprise, AZ
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28545#28545
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:24:58 AM PST US
> From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard
> engineering&quo
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
>
> Todd you have taken the words out of my mouth there shouldnt even be a
> question of what is a better plane just take a look at the design &
> Construction
> of
> each of them and this should answer your question
>
> Ellery in Firestar
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:39:07 AM PST US
> From: "pat ladd"
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd"
>
>
> I go on O2 at 1000'! -- how could I manage that in a Kolb ? Maybe I'd
> never fly that high anyway -->>
>
> Hi Russ,
>
> I assume you meant 10,000 ft..
> Mick Moulai tells me today that he had my Xtra up to 10500ft and still
> climbing yesterday as part of the test programme on my machine.
>
> The programme is almost finished and I may actually get my hands on the
> plane myself in the next couple of weeks.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
> --
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:35:29 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New video from Montreal
> From: "Noel"
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel"
>
> Hello Bill !
>
> Thanks for your comments !
> This was at 2500 feet ... the higest altitude allowed in that area
> (without contacting
> the Mirabel airport tower).
>
> Nol
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28578#28578
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:43:43 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
> From: "Noel"
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel"
>
> Hello all !
>
> I have often noticed some vibration of the wing struts of my Twinstar MK
> II .
> This happens at a given RPM when the strut seems to hit a "resonance"
> point and
> start to vibrate. This never bothered me too much as it seems to only
> happens
> at a RPM of around 4500 .
>
> Now ... i took some picture with my camera phone while flying yesterday
> that happens to "catch " these vibrations on the picture.
> I have been quite surprised when i saw that picture with the apparently
> quite large
> amplitude of the vibration ! Quite amazing ... but it could also be
> an optical "effect" created or amplified by the relatively low shutter
> speed of
> the camera ...
>
> In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try tio
> fix
> the "problem" .
>
> I have seen some modular plastic fairing that can easily be installed on a
> Rans
> S-12 (i think) ... These are made of 2 plastic parts that "snap" together
> to
> form a "water drop" shaped fairing ...
>
> Any one could submit a source for these ?
>
> Good and safle flying to all ...
>
> Noel Bouchard
> Twinstar MK II
> 350 Hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28579#28579
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/shakingstrut_987.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:50:36 AM PST US
> From: "John Hauck"
> Subject: Kolb-List: Test Flying
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> the
>
>
> Patrick:
>
> Here in the States we get to be our own test pilot for our own
> aircraft.
>
> Is there a requirement for a designated person to test your homebuilt
> aircraft?
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:58:32 AM PST US
> From: Blumax008@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 4/15/2006 2:44:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> noel@teledata.qc.ca writes:
>
> In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try tio
> fix the "problem" .
>
>
> My '04 and 503 powered Firestar II does the same thing depending on how
> the
> 503 feels like eating it's oats. I have the strut fairings too...same
> deal. I
>
> let the sumbitch vibrate. If the strut fails, I got the 'chute.
>
> Wild Bill Catalina
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:21:30 PM PST US
> From: Blumax008@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
>
> I figured that would get someone's attention! LOL!
>
> This is just food for thought for all you potential BRS deployers out
> there.
> I use my Firestar II for aerial photography for a major developer here in
> north Florida.
>
> I shoot at 12,000 ft. every week. Yes, it'll go that high, just be
> patient,
> breathe good & carry lots of fuel for the long burn. Anyway, I was waaay
> up
> there freezing my butt off, banking hard over, getting scared again &
> started
>
> thinking....
>
> Me thinking..."You know, with this 40mph north wind blowing & me being
> over
> the coast, if I had an accidental 'chute deployment, I'd be at least 5
> miles
> out in the Gulp of Mexico before I landed in the water! Also, if I did
> actually have to use that sucker & deployed it too soon at too high an
> altitude...I'd be at least 5 miles out in the Gulp of Mexico!"
>
> So...my point being, & I don't think this has ever been brought up...be
> concious of where you are, how high you are & where the wind may blow you
> if you
>
> really do need to use a 'chute! I've never heard of it happening before
> but
> an accidental or intentional deployment (at altitude) could put your butt
> in a
>
> very serious situation. Be prepared to ride it down to a safer altitude
> before deployment...if needed...and hope the sumbitch doesn't ever
> accidentally
>
> deploy due to some brain or equipment malfunction.
>
> I'm even thinking about removing it. This is the first aircraft I've ever
> had in 28 years of flying ultralights that had a BRS. Be somethin' if I
> saved
>
> myself via BRS...only to drown later. Like I said...food for thought.
>
> Wild Bill Catalina
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 11
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:31:21 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: BRS Deployment...
> From: "N111KX (Kip)"
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "N111KX (Kip)"
>
> Just ride it down to 700 AGL then pull Big Red:)
> Kip
>
> --------
> Kip
> Firestar II (born September 2000)
> Atlanta, GA
> N111KX
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28591#28591
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 12
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:49:05 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck"
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> thought.
>
> Heard the very same statement several times from different pilots over
> the years, "thinking about removing it."
>
> I can assure you, if you need it and it is laying on the bench in the
> hangar, you gonna wish you had it.
>
> Might be a good idea to purchase and wear an inflatable PFD when
> flying near and or over water. I bought one a few days prior to
> flying to S&F from Acft Spruce. Paid $118.00 for it. Will be worth
> every penny if the time should arise when I need it, and I have it
> firmly attached to my body.
>
> Deciding when and where one will deploy their BRS during an emergency
> situation may live little room for decision making at different
> altitudes.
>
>>From personal experience, I did not have a choice either time. It was
> imperative to make the decision immediately or die.
>
> Another point to consider is:
>
> If and when the emergency arises, the aircraft may not be in a docile,
> stable descent. It very well make be tumbling rapidly, spinning
> wildly, with such centrifugal force that one may not be able to raise
> a hand to find, grasp, and pull the deployment handle.
>
> If one can afford to install a ballistic recovery system, one should.
> One should also not be afraid to use it, should the situation present
> itself. It gives you another chance when all other options have
> expired.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 13
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:03:04 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck"
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
>
> emergency
>
>
> The above should have read:
>
> "Deciding when and where one will deploy their BRS during an emergency
> situation my leave little room for decision making at different
> altitudes."
>
> Thanks,
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 14
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:37:40 PM PST US
> From: "Bob Dalton"
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton"
>
> Noel,
>
> Look's as though the strut is distorted from your lexan being photographed
> through, you do have a canopy on right. Look at the landscape you will see
> your straight lines are distorted also. Just my guess though.
>
> Bob D.
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:43 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel"
>
> Hello all !
>
> I have often noticed some vibration of the wing struts of my Twinstar MK
> II
> ..
> This happens at a given RPM when the strut seems to hit a "resonance"
> point
> and start to vibrate. This never bothered me too much as it seems to only
> happens at a RPM of around 4500 .
>
> Now ... i took some picture with my camera phone while flying yesterday
> that happens to "catch " these vibrations on the picture.
> I have been quite surprised when i saw that picture with the apparently
> quite large amplitude of the vibration ! Quite amazing ... but it could
> also
> be
> an optical "effect" created or amplified by the relatively low shutter
> speed
> of the camera ...
>
> In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try tio
> fix the "problem" .
>
> I have seen some modular plastic fairing that can easily be installed on a
> Rans S-12 (i think) ... These are made of 2 plastic parts that "snap"
> together to form a "water drop" shaped fairing ...
>
> Any one could submit a source for these ?
>
> Good and safle flying to all ...
>
> Noel Bouchard
> Twinstar MK II
> 350 Hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28579#28579
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/shakingstrut_987.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 15
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:04:35 PM PST US
> From: russ kinne
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne
>
> Pat
> No, I meant 1,000 feet! -- the low level is where I work -- & shine.
> And smile!
> Glad to hear your bird got to 10,500! You'll have a ball when all the
> folderol is over --
> Fair winds,
> Russ
>
> do not archive
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2006, at 12:27 PM, pat ladd wrote:
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd"
>
>>
>> I go on O2 at 1000'! -- how could I manage that in a Kolb ? Maybe
>> I'd
>> never fly that high anyway -->>
>>
>> Hi Russ,
>>
>> I assume you meant 10,000 ft..
>> Mick Moulai tells me today that he had my Xtra up to 10500ft and still
>> climbing yesterday as part of the test programme on my machine.
>>
>> The programme is almost finished and I may actually get my hands on
>> the
>> plane myself in the next couple of weeks.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 16
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:13:15 PM PST US
> From: russ kinne
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne
>
> Wild Bill
> FWIW -- did you ever consider wearing a divers wet-suit jacket?
> Comfortable, good insulation, and if you ditch you'd be afloat, face
> up and out of the water, conscious or not. I use them over cold water
> where the legal preservers would keep you afloat and dead. I'd rather
> be illegal and alive
>
> On Apr 15, 2006, at 3:20 PM, Blumax008@aol.com wrote:
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
>>
>> I figured that would get someone's attention! LOL!
>>
>> This is just food for thought for all you potential BRS deployers
>> out there.
>> I use my Firestar II for aerial photography for a major developer
>> here in
>> north Florida.
>>
>> I shoot at 12,000 ft. every week. Yes, it'll go that high, just be
>> patient,
>> breathe good & carry lots of fuel for the long burn. Anyway, I was
>> waaay up
>> there freezing my butt off, banking hard over, getting scared
>> again & started
>> thinking....
>>
>> Me thinking..."You know, with this 40mph north wind blowing & me
>> being over
>> the coast, if I had an accidental 'chute deployment, I'd be at
>> least 5 miles
>> out in the Gulp of Mexico before I landed in the water! Also, if I
>> did
>> actually have to use that sucker & deployed it too soon at too
>> high an
>> altitude...I'd be at least 5 miles out in the Gulp of Mexico!"
>>
>> So...my point being, & I don't think this has ever been brought
>> up...be
>> concious of where you are, how high you are & where the wind may
>> blow you if you
>> really do need to use a 'chute! I've never heard of it happening
>> before but
>> an accidental or intentional deployment (at altitude) could put
>> your butt in a
>> very serious situation. Be prepared to ride it down to a safer
>> altitude
>> before deployment...if needed...and hope the sumbitch doesn't ever
>> accidentally
>> deploy due to some brain or equipment malfunction.
>>
>> I'm even thinking about removing it. This is the first aircraft
>> I've ever
>> had in 28 years of flying ultralights that had a BRS. Be somethin'
>> if I saved
>> myself via BRS...only to drown later. Like I said...food for thought.
>>
>> Wild Bill Catalina
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 17
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:54:56 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Streamline Lift Struts / Homemade
> From: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I've been making some streamline lift struts for my Firestar II
>
> When I fly with the "stock" lift struts...They sometimes start to
>
> vibrate and wiggle in flight.....I bought some aluminum and sheared
>
> two pieces 70" x 9 1/4" ....I put them thru the rollers a few times
>
> until they had about a 20" radius to them,Then with a "knife edge"
>
> and a rubber lower die....I bent them in half in the Break.....
>
> I was experimenting with the TIG , to get it small enough to weld
>
> the seam, I wasn't having much luck with the machine "I" had...So I
>
> used the MIG gun....Dialed it in and had a pretty good bead going.
>
> Then I've been working on cleaning them up and polishing them...
>
> I'm waiting on some AN bolts...Their ready to put on....LATER ,
>
> I'm thinking of making some fairings to extend the streamline struts
>
> to a smoother finish.....I haven't seen ANYBODY try to clean that
>
> area up,I think it looks kind of funny when the streamline just stops...
>
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN
>
> PS It was 12 bucks worth of aluminum...and working thru lunches...
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..
>
> --------
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..
> .Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28610#28610
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/streamline_lift_struts_003_174.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/streamline_lift_struts_002_601.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/streamline_lift_struts_001_198.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 18
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:27:06 PM PST US
> From: "Jerry Deckard"
> Subject: Kolb-List: HKS
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard"
>
> Anyone ever put an HKS on a Firestar? With fuel prices I am considering
> it.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 19
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:20:15 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> From: "John Hauck"
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> Fairings turned out great!
>
> What thickness alumuninum sheet did you use?
>
> --------
> John Hauck
> MKIII/912ULS
> hauck's holler, alabama
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28622#28622
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 20
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:20:15 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck"
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> considering it.
>
> Gerry Olenik was my next door neighbor while camping at S&F. We
> talked about HKS and FS. I believe he is going to do some
> investigating into the possibility of an HKS powered FS.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 21
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:25:52 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> From: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> Hi John,
> Thanks......
>
> I went to the "Discount Steel" down the street from me....I was looking
>
> For anything in their "Drop" section at least 70" x 18"
>
> I found a piece 70.5" x 18.5 it was 1/16" thick ( 16 gauge ? )
>
> Which was about my limit on thickness..... it's a little thinner since
> I've
>
> used some 220 with a DA , then scuff pad , then 500 grit wet sand....
>
> They can still use some more polishing...But I'm in the ballpark...
>
>
> I got the directions from your brother "Jim" to make the lift struts like
>
> you have....but I thought I'd try this first.....If it didn't work... I'd
> only
>
> be "out" 12 bucks...
>
> ..
> ..
> .
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN / N381PM
>
> --------
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..
> .Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28625#28625
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 22
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:35:17 PM PST US
> From: "Jerry Deckard"
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard"
>
> Thanks,
> I have a new 447 and box, that would help offset the cost of the HKS.
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Hauck"
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 6:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>
>> considering it.
>>
>> Gerry Olenik was my next door neighbor while camping at S&F. We
>> talked about HKS and FS. I believe he is going to do some
>> investigating into the possibility of an HKS powered FS.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 23
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:47:37 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> From: "John Hauck"
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> Those fairings over some round 4130 lift struts would probably work well.
> Be nice
> and solid.
>
> --------
> John Hauck
> MKIII/912ULS
> hauck's holler, alabama
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28628#28628
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 24
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:21:25 PM PST US
> From: WillUribe@aol.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: FireStar II sunset flight
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
> Greetings,
>
> This video was taken yesterday a little after sunset. It has been very
> windy here in the southwest so anytime we get calm air we go out and fly.
>
> _http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv_
> (http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv)
>
> Enjoy,
> Guillermo Uribe
> FireStar II N4GU
> El Paso, TX
> _http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/_ (http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/)
> _http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/_ (http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 25
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:43:18 PM PST US
> From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
>
> I would like to add farings to my struts also to make it look better but I
> think it would have to be something that one could install easy because I
> have
>
> to fold & unfold every time I fly wich is often mabe someone in the
> plastic
> molding business can come up with something that just fits tight to the
> streamline struts that we could slide up to the wing and down to the cadge
> anyone
> got
> any leads ? on something like that let us know
>
> Ellery in Maine flying a old firestar but its like new now
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 26
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:53:05 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck"
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar II sunset flight
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> Enjoyed the video. Place looks familiar.
>
> Your pulsating landing lights are very effective. They are difficult
> to ignore, and more noticeable than the strobes when flying head on.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 27
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:09:04 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> From: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>
>
> I will be sliding my "stock" lift struts through these "sleeves"....
>
> I will be able to put three ( new, longer ) AN bolts thru the Top of the
> Lift
>
>
> strut....but the lower end has the bolts facing towards the rear.....I'm
>
> going to cotter pin those nuts....and cut three inspection holes to see
> that
>
> things look good..... I fold my plane each time too....
>
> nothing fancy here....just trying to solve the lift strut vibration....
>
> Because the lower bolts don't hold the sleeve....I'll have to see how
> tight
>
> the sleeve will be , I don't think it's gonna move around...If it
> does,I'll
>
> put a squeeze on it somehow.... I was thinking about shooting
>
> expanding foam in the gap....but I'm afraid of moister
>
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN
>
> PS If you want PVC Streamline Strut Tubing.....
>
> 10' sections part # A2685 price $47.49 - in the L.E.A.F. catolog
> For tubing Dia from 1" to 2" ......there ya go.
>
> --------
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..
> .Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28640#28640
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 28
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:10:31 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Sun 'N Fun
> From: "cspoke"
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "cspoke"
>
> Hi Bill,
> I'm new to posting on the list. I've been reading for several months and
> got alot
> of good information. Sun N Fun was good for me. While I was there, I
> purchased
> a Mark 111 Xtra kit. I meet the Kolb factory people and John Hauck. Great
> people with a great airplane. I can't wait to start building. I'm sure
> that I
> will have many questions. BTW Bill, I see that you are in the UP. I
> recently moved
> from Michigan to the Gulf Coast of Alabama. No snow here. My Dad is from
> Iron River Michigan. The family still has a hunting camp there. Oh,,,,the
> show
> at Sun N Fun was good too. Lots of airplanes to look at.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28642#28642
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 29
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:24:19 PM PST US
> From: Richard Pike
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar II sunset flight
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike
>
> Great video Will.
> What kind of the lights and strobe?
> And how did you do the landing light pulse?
> I think I need to spend some money for that sort of setup...
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> WillUribe@aol.com wrote:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> This video was taken yesterday a little after sunset. It has been very
>> windy here in the southwest so anytime we get calm air we go out and fly.
>>
>> _http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv_
>> (http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv)
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> Guillermo Uribe
>> FireStar II N4GU
>> El Paso, TX
>> _http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/_ (http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/)
>> _http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/_ (http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 30
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:34:32 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
> From: "Possum"
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Possum"
>
>
> planecrazzzy wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I've been making some streamline lift struts(sleeves) for my Firestar II
>>
>> When I fly with the "stock" lift struts...They sometimes start to
>>
>> vibrate and wiggle in flight.....I bought some aluminum and sheared
>>
>> two pieces 70" x 9 1/4" ....I put them thru the rollers a few times
>>
>> until they had about a 20" radius to them,Then with a "knife edge"
>>
>> and a rubber lower die....I bent them in half in the Break.....
>>
>>
>> .
>
>
> I did almost the same thing - except used a lot thiner alum - rolled the
> edges
> just enough to wrap around the top & bottom of the struts 1/2 inch +-,
> then bent
> in half with a "break" like you did. Used rivets to attach to the struts.
> It
> also eliminated the vibrating strut problem with out adding more tha a
> pound
> of weight. T6061 alum - I think?
> Don't have any real close up pictures, the rolled edges are hard to see
> anyway.
> It make more of a tear drop shape - but the difference in drag is
> negligible
> at our speeds.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28661#28661
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/seat2_832.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/seat1_270.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 31
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:02:33 PM PST US
> From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
> Subject: Kolb-List: Alternitive Engines For Firestar
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
>
> Jerry
>
> I don't know much about the package but something to consider is the
> Generac
> engine Valley Engineering is developing a reduction drive for.
> http://www.culverprops.com/new-engine.htm These are the guys that make the
> redrive for my VW. They have spent considerable effort in taming the
> harmonic vibrations that the engine/psru/prop has with the V twin engine
> configuration. They have some long term hope to completely smooth out my
> VW
> with a similar solution.
>
> Food for thought and a much lower price solution.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Deckard"
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard"
>>
>> Thanks,
>> I have a new 447 and box, that would help offset the cost of the HKS.
>> Jerry
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Hauck"
>> To:
>> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 6:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>>
>>
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>>
>>> | Anyone ever put an HKS on a Firestar? With fuel prices I am
>>> considering it.
>>> |
>>> | Jerry
>>>
>>> Gerry Olenik was my next door neighbor while camping at S&F. We
>>> talked about HKS and FS. I believe he is going to do some
>>> investigating into the possibility of an HKS powered FS.
>>>
>>> john h
>>> mkIII
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Lese
>
> Lisa P. Turner
> lisaturner@lisaturner.com
> 561-866-0011
>
>
> --
>
>
--
--
________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________
Time: 07:35:24 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: BRS VLS
From: "N111KX (Kip)"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "N111KX (Kip)"
Lisa, did you ever fly the Mk III? I never read about it anywhere:) I really enjoyed
your adventures in the Pulsar and wish you good luck in the Rotorway...
Kip
--------
Kip
Firestar II (born September 2000)
Atlanta, GA
N111KX
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Congrats John,
You got a heck of a deal brother, I am consoling myself with the fact that
at least I won't have to add building a new gap seal to my list of things I
have to do before I fly this year. :-)
The list is long enough as it is.
Denny Rowe
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:12 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: BRS VLS
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
>
> Hey Denny,
> I was hoping it was me, I sent her a private email 50 minutes after her
> post, but have not heard anything back.
> How about it Lisa, who got first dibs.
>
> John Cooley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Denny Rowe
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:45 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS VLS
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
> OK,
> Who was the lucky sap who beat me to Lisa's chute?
> I was late in seeing her offer as I'm working 72-80 hr weeks lately. :-(
>
> Denny (crying in my money) Rowe
> Mk-3
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LISA TURNER" <lisaturner@prodigy.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 2:20 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: BRS VLS
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: LISA TURNER <lisaturner@prodigy.net>
>>
>> Fellow Kolbers,
>>
>> Since I'm selling my Mark III to David Key and he does not want the BRS,
>> I have a brand new re-packed and checked by BRS (January 06) VLS 1050
>> never mounted for sale for $1,200. I paid $3,400 for it (2001) and
>> another $800 in January to have updated and repacked in the aerodynamic
>> VLS cannister. If anyone wants it let me know otherwise I'll put it on
>> eBay and see what happens! David is going to finish this project up and
>> I
>
>> bought a Rotorway Helicopter Kit (just a Kolb with much smaller wings . .
>> . :-) ). Now if I could figure out how to mount a BRS to the helicopter
>> rotor . . . . . . hope you guys don't mind if I still lurk on your
>> excellent interchanges from time to time. David is a great Kolb driver
>> and will be a good addition to the family. After the helicopter there
>> may
>
>> be another Kolb for me . . . probably a single seater. I'll rely on your
>> advice! Take care. Lese
>>
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>> Today's Message Index:
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>>
>> 1. 01:26 AM - Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ??? (planecrazzzy)
>> 2. 01:53 AM - Re: test&update (planecrazzzy)
>> 3. 07:51 AM - Re: R Wing needed for Firestar (John Jung)
>> 4. 08:24 AM - Re: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard engineering&quo
>> (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
>> 5. 09:39 AM - Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (pat ladd)
>> 6. 11:35 AM - Re: New video from Montreal (Noel)
>> 7. 11:43 AM - Shaking strut ... (Noel)
>> 8. 11:50 AM - Test Flying (John Hauck)
>> 9. 11:58 AM - Re: Shaking strut ... (Blumax008@aol.com)
>> 10. 12:21 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (Blumax008@aol.com)
>> 11. 12:31 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (N111KX (Kip))
>> 12. 12:49 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (John Hauck)
>> 13. 01:03 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (John Hauck)
>> 14. 01:37 PM - Re: Shaking strut ... (Bob Dalton)
>> 15. 02:04 PM - Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (russ kinne)
>> 16. 02:13 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (russ kinne)
>> 17. 02:54 PM - Streamline Lift Struts / Homemade (planecrazzzy)
>> 18. 03:27 PM - HKS (Jerry Deckard)
>> 19. 04:20 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (John
>> Hauck)
>> 20. 04:20 PM - Re: HKS (John Hauck)
>> 21. 04:25 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
>> (planecrazzzy)
>> 22. 04:35 PM - Re: HKS (Jerry Deckard)
>> 23. 04:47 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (John
>> Hauck)
>> 24. 05:21 PM - FireStar II sunset flight (WillUribe@aol.com)
>> 25. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
>> (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
>> 26. 05:53 PM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (John Hauck)
>> 27. 06:09 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
>> (planecrazzzy)
>> 28. 06:10 PM - Re: Sun 'N Fun (cspoke)
>> 29. 06:24 PM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (Richard Pike)
>> 30. 07:34 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (Possum)
>> 31. 08:02 PM - Alternitive Engines For Firestar (Richard & Martha
>> Neilsen)
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 01:26:51 AM PST US
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ???
>> From: "planecrazzzy"
>>
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>>
>>
>> Hey big Lar,
>> If you cooperate....I can try.
>>
>> First, we'll start with 12V DC , if that doesn't get ya goin....
>>
>> We'll go staight to AC ....say 120 ....240....480....
>>
>> You know, you did all that work for years...now your SO CLOSE
>>
>> That in itself should be really good motivation...just one small(er) oil
>> leak
>>
>> keeping you from flying.....Well, that and a mountain of paperchasing...
>>
>>
>> Gotta Fly...
>> Mike in MN
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> biglar wrote:
>>> Kin ya do anything 'bout laziness ?? Do not Archive.
>>>
>>> Larry Bourne
>>> Palm Springs, CA
>>> Building Kolb Mk III
>>> N78LB Vamoose
>>> www.gogittum.com
>>>
>>> ---
>>
>>
>> --------
>> ..
>> ..
>> ..
>> ..
>> .Do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28507#28507
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>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 01:53:22 AM PST US
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: test&update
>> From: "planecrazzzy"
>>
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>>
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>> Got all the hinges marked and the cables tagged?......I guess you'll
>> have to strip your cage down too....
>> I remember when "I" was at that stage....it was looking like an airplane
>> and then I had to tear it all down, back to a bunch of parts...
>>
>> Oh, the " where am I in building"....We already have one...
>>
>> It's called the "Kolb List".....He he he
>>
>>
>> Good luck with your fabric and painting.......
>>
>> Pictures,pictures pictures......That's what we want to see......
>>
>> ..
>> ..
>> .
>> Gotta Fly...
>> Mike in MN / N381PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul P wrote:
>>> Hi Kolbers,
>>> I have a new computer and lost the info on the BBS. Starting over
>>> here.....As
>> for Ms Dixie she comes apart this weekend for covering! What are other
>> builders
>> up to? Maybe we need a thread on "Where I am in my building" and what I
>> am
>> building perhaps.
>>>
>>> Greetings from Harris Hollow
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Paul Petty
>>> Kolbra 012
>>> 912UL
>>>
>>> do not archive
>>
>>
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>> ..
>> ..
>> ..
>> .Do not archive
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>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28508#28508
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>> ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
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>>
>> Time: 07:51:22 AM PST US
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: R Wing needed for Firestar
>> From: "John Jung"
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung"
>>
>>
>> Livair wrote:
>>> Are there other models that have the same wing? Is the Twinstar or
>>> Ultrastar
>> wing by any chance the same?
>>
>>
>> I believe that the Mark II has the same wing as the Firestar II. But
>> unless you
>> find one close to you, the transportation costs could be more than
>> rebuilding
>> or building new. Doesn't hurt to search, though.
>> do not archive
>>
>> --------
>> John Jung
>> Firestar II N6163J
>> Surprise, AZ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28545#28545
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>> _____________________________________
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>> Time: 08:24:58 AM PST US
>> From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard
>> engineering&quo
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
>>
>> Todd you have taken the words out of my mouth there shouldnt even be a
>> question of what is a better plane just take a look at the design &
>> Construction
>> of
>> each of them and this should answer your question
>>
>> Ellery in Firestar
>>
>> do not archive
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>> ________________________________ Message 5
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 09:39:07 AM PST US
>> From: "pat ladd"
>>
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd"
>>
>>
>> I go on O2 at 1000'! -- how could I manage that in a Kolb ? Maybe I'd
>> never fly that high anyway -->>
>>
>> Hi Russ,
>>
>> I assume you meant 10,000 ft..
>> Mick Moulai tells me today that he had my Xtra up to 10500ft and still
>> climbing yesterday as part of the test programme on my machine.
>>
>> The programme is almost finished and I may actually get my hands on the
>> plane myself in the next couple of weeks.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
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>> ________________________________ Message 6
>> _____________________________________
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>>
>> Time: 11:35:29 AM PST US
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New video from Montreal
>> From: "Noel"
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel"
>>
>> Hello Bill !
>>
>> Thanks for your comments !
>> This was at 2500 feet ... the higest altitude allowed in that area
>> (without contacting
>> the Mirabel airport tower).
>>
>> Nol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28578#28578
>>
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>> ________________________________ Message 7
>> _____________________________________
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>>
>> Time: 11:43:43 AM PST US
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
>> From: "Noel"
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel"
>>
>> Hello all !
>>
>> I have often noticed some vibration of the wing struts of my Twinstar MK
>> II .
>> This happens at a given RPM when the strut seems to hit a "resonance"
>> point and
>> start to vibrate. This never bothered me too much as it seems to only
>> happens
>> at a RPM of around 4500 .
>>
>> Now ... i took some picture with my camera phone while flying yesterday
>> that happens to "catch " these vibrations on the picture.
>> I have been quite surprised when i saw that picture with the apparently
>> quite large
>> amplitude of the vibration ! Quite amazing ... but it could also be
>> an optical "effect" created or amplified by the relatively low shutter
>> speed of
>> the camera ...
>>
>> In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try
>> tio
>
>> fix
>> the "problem" .
>>
>> I have seen some modular plastic fairing that can easily be installed on
>> a
>
>> Rans
>> S-12 (i think) ... These are made of 2 plastic parts that "snap" together
>> to
>> form a "water drop" shaped fairing ...
>>
>> Any one could submit a source for these ?
>>
>> Good and safle flying to all ...
>>
>> Noel Bouchard
>> Twinstar MK II
>> 350 Hrs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28579#28579
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/shakingstrut_987.jpg
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>> ________________________________ Message 8
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 11:50:36 AM PST US
>> From: "John Hauck"
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Test Flying
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>
>> the
>> | plane myself in the next couple of weeks.
>> |
>> | Cheers
>> |
>> | Pat
>>
>>
>> Patrick:
>>
>> Here in the States we get to be our own test pilot for our own
>> aircraft.
>>
>> Is there a requirement for a designated person to test your homebuilt
>> aircraft?
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>>
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>> ________________________________ Message 9
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 11:58:32 AM PST US
>> From: Blumax008@aol.com
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 4/15/2006 2:44:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> noel@teledata.qc.ca writes:
>>
>> In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try
>> tio
>> fix the "problem" .
>>
>>
>>
>> My '04 and 503 powered Firestar II does the same thing depending on how
>> the
>> 503 feels like eating it's oats. I have the strut fairings too...same
>> deal. I
>>
>> let the sumbitch vibrate. If the strut fails, I got the 'chute.
>>
>> Wild Bill Catalina
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 10
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:21:30 PM PST US
>> From: Blumax008@aol.com
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
>>
>> I figured that would get someone's attention! LOL!
>>
>> This is just food for thought for all you potential BRS deployers out
>> there.
>> I use my Firestar II for aerial photography for a major developer here in
>> north Florida.
>>
>> I shoot at 12,000 ft. every week. Yes, it'll go that high, just be
>> patient,
>> breathe good & carry lots of fuel for the long burn. Anyway, I was waaay
>> up
>> there freezing my butt off, banking hard over, getting scared again &
>> started
>>
>> thinking....
>>
>> Me thinking..."You know, with this 40mph north wind blowing & me being
>> over
>> the coast, if I had an accidental 'chute deployment, I'd be at least 5
>> miles
>> out in the Gulp of Mexico before I landed in the water! Also, if I did
>> actually have to use that sucker & deployed it too soon at too high an
>> altitude...I'd be at least 5 miles out in the Gulp of Mexico!"
>>
>> So...my point being, & I don't think this has ever been brought up...be
>> concious of where you are, how high you are & where the wind may blow you
>> if you
>>
>> really do need to use a 'chute! I've never heard of it happening before
>> but
>> an accidental or intentional deployment (at altitude) could put your butt
>> in a
>>
>> very serious situation. Be prepared to ride it down to a safer altitude
>> before deployment...if needed...and hope the sumbitch doesn't ever
>> accidentally
>>
>> deploy due to some brain or equipment malfunction.
>>
>> I'm even thinking about removing it. This is the first aircraft I've ever
>> had in 28 years of flying ultralights that had a BRS. Be somethin' if I
>> saved
>>
>> myself via BRS...only to drown later. Like I said...food for thought.
>>
>> Wild Bill Catalina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 11
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:31:21 PM PST US
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: BRS Deployment...
>> From: "N111KX (Kip)"
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "N111KX (Kip)"
>>
>> Just ride it down to 700 AGL then pull Big Red:)
>> Kip
>>
>> --------
>> Kip
>> Firestar II (born September 2000)
>> Atlanta, GA
>> N111KX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28591#28591
>>
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>> ________________________________ Message 12
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:49:05 PM PST US
>> From: "John Hauck"
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>
>> | myself via BRS...only to drown later. Like I said...food for
>> thought.
>> |
>> | Wild Bill Catalina
>>
>> Heard the very same statement several times from different pilots over
>> the years, "thinking about removing it."
>>
>> I can assure you, if you need it and it is laying on the bench in the
>> hangar, you gonna wish you had it.
>>
>> Might be a good idea to purchase and wear an inflatable PFD when
>> flying near and or over water. I bought one a few days prior to
>> flying to S&F from Acft Spruce. Paid $118.00 for it. Will be worth
>> every penny if the time should arise when I need it, and I have it
>> firmly attached to my body.
>>
>> Deciding when and where one will deploy their BRS during an emergency
>> situation may live little room for decision making at different
>> altitudes.
>>
>>>From personal experience, I did not have a choice either time. It was
>> imperative to make the decision immediately or die.
>>
>> Another point to consider is:
>>
>> If and when the emergency arises, the aircraft may not be in a docile,
>> stable descent. It very well make be tumbling rapidly, spinning
>> wildly, with such centrifugal force that one may not be able to raise
>> a hand to find, grasp, and pull the deployment handle.
>>
>> If one can afford to install a ballistic recovery system, one should.
>> One should also not be afraid to use it, should the situation present
>> itself. It gives you another chance when all other options have
>> expired.
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
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>> Time: 01:03:04 PM PST US
>> From: "John Hauck"
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>
>>
>>
>> | Deciding when and where one will deploy their BRS during an
>> emergency
>> | situation may live little room for decision making at different
>> | altitudes.
>>
>>
>> The above should have read:
>>
>> "Deciding when and where one will deploy their BRS during an emergency
>> situation my leave little room for decision making at different
>> altitudes."
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
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>> Time: 01:37:40 PM PST US
>> From: "Bob Dalton"
>> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton"
>>
>> Noel,
>>
>> Look's as though the strut is distorted from your lexan being
>> photographed
>> through, you do have a canopy on right. Look at the landscape you will
>> see
>> your straight lines are distorted also. Just my guess though.
>>
>> Bob D.
>> Do not archive
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel
>> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:43 AM
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Shaking strut ...
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Noel"
>>
>> Hello all !
>>
>> I have often noticed some vibration of the wing struts of my Twinstar MK
>> II
>> ..
>> This happens at a given RPM when the strut seems to hit a "resonance"
>> point
>> and start to vibrate. This never bothered me too much as it seems to only
>> happens at a RPM of around 4500 .
>>
>> Now ... i took some picture with my camera phone while flying yesterday
>> that happens to "catch " these vibrations on the picture.
>> I have been quite surprised when i saw that picture with the apparently
>> quite large amplitude of the vibration ! Quite amazing ... but it could
>> also
>> be
>> an optical "effect" created or amplified by the relatively low shutter
>> speed
>> of the camera ...
>>
>> In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try
>> tio
>> fix the "problem" .
>>
>> I have seen some modular plastic fairing that can easily be installed on
>> a
>> Rans S-12 (i think) ... These are made of 2 plastic parts that "snap"
>> together to form a "water drop" shaped fairing ...
>>
>> Any one could submit a source for these ?
>>
>> Good and safle flying to all ...
>>
>> Noel Bouchard
>> Twinstar MK II
>> 350 Hrs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28579#28579
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>> Time: 02:04:35 PM PST US
>> From: russ kinne
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne
>>
>> Pat
>> No, I meant 1,000 feet! -- the low level is where I work -- & shine.
>> And smile!
>> Glad to hear your bird got to 10,500! You'll have a ball when all the
>> folderol is over --
>> Fair winds,
>> Russ
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> On Apr 15, 2006, at 12:27 PM, pat ladd wrote:
>>
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd"
>>
>>>
>>> I go on O2 at 1000'! -- how could I manage that in a Kolb ? Maybe
>>> I'd
>>> never fly that high anyway -->>
>>>
>>> Hi Russ,
>>>
>>> I assume you meant 10,000 ft..
>>> Mick Moulai tells me today that he had my Xtra up to 10500ft and still
>>> climbing yesterday as part of the test programme on my machine.
>>>
>>> The programme is almost finished and I may actually get my hands on
>>> the
>>> plane myself in the next couple of weeks.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>> Time: 02:13:15 PM PST US
>> From: russ kinne
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS Deployment...
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne
>>
>> Wild Bill
>> FWIW -- did you ever consider wearing a divers wet-suit jacket?
>> Comfortable, good insulation, and if you ditch you'd be afloat, face
>> up and out of the water, conscious or not. I use them over cold water
>> where the legal preservers would keep you afloat and dead. I'd rather
>> be illegal and alive
>>
>> On Apr 15, 2006, at 3:20 PM, Blumax008@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Blumax008@aol.com
>>>
>>> I figured that would get someone's attention! LOL!
>>>
>>> This is just food for thought for all you potential BRS deployers
>>> out there.
>>> I use my Firestar II for aerial photography for a major developer
>>> here in
>>> north Florida.
>>>
>>> I shoot at 12,000 ft. every week. Yes, it'll go that high, just be
>>> patient,
>>> breathe good & carry lots of fuel for the long burn. Anyway, I was
>>> waaay up
>>> there freezing my butt off, banking hard over, getting scared
>>> again & started
>>> thinking....
>>>
>>> Me thinking..."You know, with this 40mph north wind blowing & me
>>> being over
>>> the coast, if I had an accidental 'chute deployment, I'd be at
>>> least 5 miles
>>> out in the Gulp of Mexico before I landed in the water! Also, if I
>>> did
>>> actually have to use that sucker & deployed it too soon at too
>>> high an
>>> altitude...I'd be at least 5 miles out in the Gulp of Mexico!"
>>>
>>> So...my point being, & I don't think this has ever been brought
>>> up...be
>>> concious of where you are, how high you are & where the wind may
>>> blow you if you
>>> really do need to use a 'chute! I've never heard of it happening
>>> before but
>>> an accidental or intentional deployment (at altitude) could put
>>> your butt in a
>>> very serious situation. Be prepared to ride it down to a safer
>>> altitude
>>> before deployment...if needed...and hope the sumbitch doesn't ever
>>> accidentally
>>> deploy due to some brain or equipment malfunction.
>>>
>>> I'm even thinking about removing it. This is the first aircraft
>>> I've ever
>>> had in 28 years of flying ultralights that had a BRS. Be somethin'
>>> if I saved
>>> myself via BRS...only to drown later. Like I said...food for thought.
>>>
>>> Wild Bill Catalina
>>>
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>> Time: 02:54:56 PM PST US
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Streamline Lift Struts / Homemade
>> From: "planecrazzzy"
>>
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>>
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I've been making some streamline lift struts for my Firestar II
>>
>> When I fly with the "stock" lift struts...They sometimes start to
>>
>> vibrate and wiggle in flight.....I bought some aluminum and sheared
>>
>> two pieces 70" x 9 1/4" ....I put them thru the rollers a few times
>>
>> until they had about a 20" radius to them,Then with a "knife edge"
>>
>> and a rubber lower die....I bent them in half in the Break.....
>>
>> I was experimenting with the TIG , to get it small enough to weld
>>
>> the seam, I wasn't having much luck with the machine "I" had...So I
>>
>> used the MIG gun....Dialed it in and had a pretty good bead going.
>>
>> Then I've been working on cleaning them up and polishing them...
>>
>> I'm waiting on some AN bolts...Their ready to put on....LATER ,
>>
>> I'm thinking of making some fairings to extend the streamline struts
>>
>> to a smoother finish.....I haven't seen ANYBODY try to clean that
>>
>> area up,I think it looks kind of funny when the streamline just stops...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gotta Fly...
>> Mike in MN
>>
>> PS It was 12 bucks worth of aluminum...and working thru lunches...
>> ..
>> ..
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>> ..
>> .Do not archive
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>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28610#28610
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>> Time: 03:27:06 PM PST US
>> From: "Jerry Deckard"
>> Subject: Kolb-List: HKS
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard"
>>
>> Anyone ever put an HKS on a Firestar? With fuel prices I am considering
>> it.
>>
>> Jerry
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>> ____________________________________
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>> Time: 04:20:15 PM PST US
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
>> From: "John Hauck"
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>
>> Fairings turned out great!
>>
>> What thickness alumuninum sheet did you use?
>>
>> --------
>> John Hauck
>> MKIII/912ULS
>> hauck's holler, alabama
>>
>>
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>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28622#28622
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>> Time: 04:20:15 PM PST US
>> From: "John Hauck"
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>
>> considering it.
>> |
>> | Jerry
>>
>> Gerry Olenik was my next door neighbor while camping at S&F. We
>> talked about HKS and FS. I believe he is going to do some
>> investigating into the possibility of an HKS powered FS.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
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>> ____________________________________
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>> Time: 04:25:52 PM PST US
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
>> From: "planecrazzzy"
>>
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>>
>>
>> Hi John,
>> Thanks......
>>
>> I went to the "Discount Steel" down the street from me....I was looking
>>
>> For anything in their "Drop" section at least 70" x 18"
>>
>> I found a piece 70.5" x 18.5 it was 1/16" thick ( 16 gauge ? )
>>
>> Which was about my limit on thickness..... it's a little thinner since
>> I've
>>
>> used some 220 with a DA , then scuff pad , then 500 grit wet sand....
>>
>> They can still use some more polishing...But I'm in the ballpark...
>>
>>
>> I got the directions from your brother "Jim" to make the lift struts like
>>
>> you have....but I thought I'd try this first.....If it didn't work... I'd
>> only
>>
>> be "out" 12 bucks...
>>
>> ..
>> ..
>> .
>> Gotta Fly...
>> Mike in MN / N381PM
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28625#28625
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>> Time: 04:35:17 PM PST US
>> From: "Jerry Deckard"
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard"
>>
>> Thanks,
>> I have a new 447 and box, that would help offset the cost of the HKS.
>> Jerry
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Hauck"
>> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 6:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>>
>>
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>>
>>> considering it.
>>>
>>> Gerry Olenik was my next door neighbor while camping at S&F. We
>>> talked about HKS and FS. I believe he is going to do some
>>> investigating into the possibility of an HKS powered FS.
>>>
>>> john h
>>> mkIII
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>> ____________________________________
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>>
>> Time: 04:47:37 PM PST US
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
>> From: "John Hauck"
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>
>> Those fairings over some round 4130 lift struts would probably work well.
>> Be nice
>> and solid.
>>
>> --------
>> John Hauck
>> MKIII/912ULS
>> hauck's holler, alabama
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28628#28628
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>> Time: 05:21:25 PM PST US
>> From: WillUribe@aol.com
>> Subject: Kolb-List: FireStar II sunset flight
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> This video was taken yesterday a little after sunset. It has been very
>> windy here in the southwest so anytime we get calm air we go out and fly.
>>
>> _http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv_
>> (http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv)
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> Guillermo Uribe
>> FireStar II N4GU
>> El Paso, TX
>> _http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/_ (http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/)
>> _http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/_ (http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/)
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>> ____________________________________
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>> Time: 05:43:18 PM PST US
>> From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
>>
>> I would like to add farings to my struts also to make it look better but
>> I
>> think it would have to be something that one could install easy because I
>> have
>>
>> to fold & unfold every time I fly wich is often mabe someone in the
>> plastic
>> molding business can come up with something that just fits tight to the
>> streamline struts that we could slide up to the wing and down to the
>> cadge
>
>> anyone
>> got
>> any leads ? on something like that let us know
>>
>> Ellery in Maine flying a old firestar but its like new now
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>> Time: 05:53:05 PM PST US
>> From: "John Hauck"
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar II sunset flight
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>
>> Enjoyed the video. Place looks familiar.
>>
>> Your pulsating landing lights are very effective. They are difficult
>> to ignore, and more noticeable than the strobes when flying head on.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
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>> ____________________________________
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>> Time: 06:09:04 PM PST US
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
>> From: "planecrazzzy"
>>
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>>
>>
>> I will be sliding my "stock" lift struts through these "sleeves"....
>>
>> I will be able to put three ( new, longer ) AN bolts thru the Top of the
>> Lift
>>
>>
>> strut....but the lower end has the bolts facing towards the rear.....I'm
>>
>> going to cotter pin those nuts....and cut three inspection holes to see
>> that
>>
>> things look good..... I fold my plane each time too....
>>
>> nothing fancy here....just trying to solve the lift strut vibration....
>>
>> Because the lower bolts don't hold the sleeve....I'll have to see how
>> tight
>>
>> the sleeve will be , I don't think it's gonna move around...If it
>> does,I'll
>>
>> put a squeeze on it somehow.... I was thinking about shooting
>>
>> expanding foam in the gap....but I'm afraid of moister
>>
>>
>> Gotta Fly...
>> Mike in MN
>>
>> PS If you want PVC Streamline Strut Tubing.....
>>
>> 10' sections part # A2685 price $47.49 - in the L.E.A.F. catolog
>> For tubing Dia from 1" to 2" ......there ya go.
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> ____________________________________
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>> Time: 06:10:31 PM PST US
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Sun 'N Fun
>> From: "cspoke"
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "cspoke"
>>
>> Hi Bill,
>> I'm new to posting on the list. I've been reading for several months and
>> got alot
>> of good information. Sun N Fun was good for me. While I was there, I
>> purchased
>> a Mark 111 Xtra kit. I meet the Kolb factory people and John Hauck. Great
>> people with a great airplane. I can't wait to start building. I'm sure
>> that I
>> will have many questions. BTW Bill, I see that you are in the UP. I
>> recently moved
>> from Michigan to the Gulf Coast of Alabama. No snow here. My Dad is from
>> Iron River Michigan. The family still has a hunting camp there. Oh,,,,the
>> show
>> at Sun N Fun was good too. Lots of airplanes to look at.
>>
>>
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28642#28642
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>> ____________________________________
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>> Time: 06:24:19 PM PST US
>> From: Richard Pike
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar II sunset flight
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike
>>
>> Great video Will.
>> What kind of the lights and strobe?
>> And how did you do the landing light pulse?
>> I think I need to spend some money for that sort of setup...
>>
>> Richard Pike
>> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>>
>> WillUribe@aol.com wrote:
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> This video was taken yesterday a little after sunset. It has been very
>>> windy here in the southwest so anytime we get calm air we go out and
>>> fly.
>>>
>>> _http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv_
>>> (http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/sunsetflight.wmv)
>>>
>>> Enjoy,
>>> Guillermo Uribe
>>> FireStar II N4GU
>>> El Paso, TX
>>> _http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/_ (http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/)
>>> _http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/_ (http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/)
>>>
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>> Time: 07:34:32 PM PST US
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade
>> From: "Possum"
>>
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Possum"
>>
>>
>>
>> planecrazzzy wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> I've been making some streamline lift struts(sleeves) for my Firestar II
>>>
>>> When I fly with the "stock" lift struts...They sometimes start to
>>>
>>> vibrate and wiggle in flight.....I bought some aluminum and sheared
>>>
>>> two pieces 70" x 9 1/4" ....I put them thru the rollers a few times
>>>
>>> until they had about a 20" radius to them,Then with a "knife edge"
>>>
>>> and a rubber lower die....I bent them in half in the Break.....
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> I did almost the same thing - except used a lot thiner alum - rolled the
>> edges
>> just enough to wrap around the top & bottom of the struts 1/2 inch +-,
>> then bent
>> in half with a "break" like you did. Used rivets to attach to the struts.
>> It
>> also eliminated the vibrating strut problem with out adding more tha a
>> pound
>> of weight. T6061 alum - I think?
>> Don't have any real close up pictures, the rolled edges are hard to see
>> anyway.
>> It make more of a tear drop shape - but the difference in drag is
>> negligible
>> at our speeds.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28661#28661
>>
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>> Time: 08:02:33 PM PST US
>> From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Alternitive Engines For Firestar
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> I don't know much about the package but something to consider is the
>> Generac
>> engine Valley Engineering is developing a reduction drive for.
>> http://www.culverprops.com/new-engine.htm These are the guys that make
>> the
>> redrive for my VW. They have spent considerable effort in taming the
>> harmonic vibrations that the engine/psru/prop has with the V twin engine
>> configuration. They have some long term hope to completely smooth out my
>> VW
>> with a similar solution.
>>
>> Food for thought and a much lower price solution.
>>
>> Rick Neilsen
>> Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jerry Deckard"
>> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>>
>>
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard"
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> I have a new 447 and box, that would help offset the cost of the HKS.
>>> Jerry
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Hauck"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 6:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS
>>>
>>>
>>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>>>
>>>> | Anyone ever put an HKS on a Firestar? With fuel prices I am
>>>> considering it.
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>>>> | Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Fairing, & other parts for the Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
Doc, I tried to hit the high spots. Much of what I descibed is known as "the
poor man's vacuum bagging method".
On 4/19/06, DrHook <csgale@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "DrHook" <csgale@yahoo.com>
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> Great Info Rick!!! Wow, That just about Sum's it Up. Are you sure you
> didnt leave anything out?
> Seriously guys, thanks for your help.
> Chris
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> Dr. Marvin, "Is this some kinda new theropy?"
> Baby Steps
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> Kolb Firestar owner, Rebuild-Recover job at hand.
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D29341#29341
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"Pining for a home on the Range"
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: rap@isp.com
I went down to Tulsa last night and helped a buddy pickup up & haul
home a nice little Firestar. It had a broke leg from the Kolb Quit
after letting his bose fly it after he had just flown it for an
hour. His bose bought him a new plane and just wanted to get rid of
the edivence. My buddy picked it for a steal. I sure wish I could
pick up a deal like that.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 04/18/06 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
Is it necessary to include ALL 21 MESSAGES FROM DIGEST?
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard" <mustangsally@semo.net>
I saw that plane listed and thought about buying it. Did he get it under the
asking price? How damaged was it?
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: <rap@isp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: rap@isp.com
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> I went down to Tulsa last night and helped a buddy pickup up & haul
> home a nice little Firestar. It had a broke leg from the Kolb Quit
> after letting his bose fly it after he had just flown it for an
> hour. His bose bought him a new plane and just wanted to get rid of
> the edivence. My buddy picked it for a steal. I sure wish I could
> pick up a deal like that.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: rap@isp.com
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard" <mustangsally@semo.net>
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> I saw that plane listed and thought about buying it. Did he get it under
> the
> asking price? How damaged was it?
> Jerry
Not bad,broken gear socket (in shear) Bent tail wheel spring. About 4 for
the tubes around the socket were bent. He had all the parts already
bought to fix the plane. Came with it. Should not take much time, I'm
going to be the one doing the welding have alot of experence on
cromemolley. The guy would not come down on the price.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <rap@isp.com>
> To: <kolb-list-digest@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:16 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar
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>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: rap@isp.com
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>> I went down to Tulsa last night and helped a buddy pickup up &
>> haul
>> home a nice little Firestar. It had a broke leg from the Kolb Quit
>> after letting his bose fly it after he had just flown it for an
>> hour. His bose bought him a new plane and just wanted to get rid of
>> the edivence. My buddy picked it for a steal. I sure wish I could
>> pick up a deal like that.
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