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1. 12:35 AM - Re: Dangerous or just scary (planecrazzzy)
2. 03:46 AM - Kolb Video (Mike Schnabel)
3. 03:58 AM - ETHANOL AS A FUEL ADDITIVE (Jim Ballenger)
4. 05:50 AM - Where the hell is Hauck? (Kirk Smith)
5. 05:54 AM - Fw: Man Show Boy - Beer Stand (Chris Mallory)
6. 06:11 AM - Re: Where the hell is Hauck? (planecrazzzy)
7. 06:15 AM - Re: Re: Ultralight crash in Baldwin County Alabama/Florida (Flycrazy8@aol.com)
8. 06:19 AM - Re: ETHANOL AS A FUEL ADDITIVE (robert bean)
9. 06:35 AM - Re: Re: Where the hell is Hauck? (JW Hauck)
10. 06:57 AM - More on Nico sleeves (Richard Girard)
11. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: Where the hell is Hauck? (Kirk Smith)
12. 07:06 AM - Wing tips (Edward Steuber)
13. 08:30 AM - Re: Dangerous or just scary (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
14. 09:20 AM - The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me (DrHook)
15. 09:55 AM - Re: Dangerous or just scary (planecrazzzy)
16. 10:21 AM - galled threads... (boyd)
17. 11:43 AM - Re: Dangerous or just scary (Thom Riddle)
18. 11:45 AM - Re: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me (kfackler)
19. 12:22 PM - Fw: new e-mail (Paul Petty)
20. 12:33 PM - Re: Wing tips (Jeremy Casey)
21. 12:35 PM - Mail (John Parker)
22. 12:42 PM - Ch3CH2OH (robert bean)
23. 01:07 PM - Re: ETHANOL AS A FUEL ADDITIVE (Cat36Fly@AOL.COM)
24. 01:44 PM - Ethanol in fuel (Lanny Fetterman)
25. 03:10 PM - Re: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me (Herb Gayheart)
26. 03:14 PM - Re: Dangerous or just scary (John Hauck)
27. 03:21 PM - Re: galled threads... (John Hauck)
28. 03:24 PM - Re: Fw: new e-mail (John Hauck)
29. 03:30 PM - Re: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me (John Hauck)
30. 03:32 PM - Another Milestone??? (Jack B. Hart)
31. 03:46 PM - Re: Another Milestone??? (DAquaNut@aol.com)
32. 03:55 PM - Re: Another Milestone??? (Robert Noyer)
33. 04:03 PM - Re: Another Milestone??? (John Hauck)
34. 04:35 PM - Runway Direction (jerb)
35. 05:00 PM - Re: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
36. 05:17 PM - MkII Twinstar for sale (Charles Blackwell)
37. 05:26 PM - Re: ETHANOL AS A FUEL ADDITIVE (Jim Baker)
38. 05:57 PM - Re: Another Milestone??? (Jack B. Hart)
39. 06:26 PM - Re: ETHANOL AS A FUEL ADDITIVE (Ralph)
40. 09:35 PM - Re: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me (Roger Lee)
41. 10:42 PM - Re: Re: Dangerous or just scary (Richard Pike)
42. 11:20 PM - Re: Photos of S&F (Icrashrc@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Dangerous or just scary |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
BINGO,
Everyone's a winner.....
Also important is what you CAN"T see....I'll bet the elevator only has
one nicco sleeve on it....
You might get by without rudder....maybe you could get lucky enough
that the tail didn't "fold up"... ( doubt it ) But it could also fold "down"
But the elevator cable would be BIG trouble
.....better have a GOOD trim "backup"
It also makes me wonder about the "other" Milow...Both planes
were being built by the same people....I wonder if the Mark III is the
same way...?
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com>
Browsing the internet, found this to be interesting, an interview with Del Cross
and his Kolb Flyer. Seems it was recoreded in 1995 so sorry if this has gone
around before but its the first time i have seen it.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1707041621505468015&q=kolb&pl=true
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Manchester TN
Firestar2 503
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| Subject: | ETHANOL AS A FUEL ADDITIVE |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
Hello
In my part of the country, Hampton Roads in Virgina, they are switching from MTBE
to ethanol as an additive in the fuel. Do any of you have any experience using
this kind of fuel?
Thanks
Jim
MK3X
Virginia Beach, VA
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| Subject: | Where the hell is Hauck? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Now where the hell did Hauck go?
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| Subject: | Fw: Man Show Boy - Beer Stand |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
FW: This is funny
Subject: FW: Man Show Boy - Beer Stand
....you may have seen this kid in action before....
Don't know where they found him, but he's a piece of work....
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| Subject: | Re: Where the hell is Hauck? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
I've been wondering the same thing...
For some reason I was thinking that he went to Paul Petty's place.....?
Gotta Fly...
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight crash in Baldwin County Alabama/Florida |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "cspoke" <cspoke@gulftel.com>
It was a Chinook two seat. It had been rebuild and test flown about two weeks
prior to the accident. It is suspected that there was some type of engine
failure or power loss.
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Thanks Guys for the info....This what I found out too...
Elberta man is killed in plane crash
Thursday, April 20, 2006
By DANIEL JACKSON
Staff Reporter
LILLIAN -- An Elberta pilot died on his 50th birthday Wednesday when the
experimental aircraft he was flying with a friend crashed in a pasture in
this eastern Baldwin County community.
Scott Hanft died immediately after the plane went down about 9 a.m., just
north of a pond at a residence on Sunset Drive in Lillian, the Baldwin
County Sheriff's Office reported.
His passenger, Charles Bingle, 61, of Elberta, was airlifted to Pensacola's
Baptist Hospital, where he was listed in critical condition after surgery
Wednesday evening, said Stephanie Young, the hospital's assistant director
of nursing.
As members of the Lite Blue Angels, a group of about 40 pilots that fly
experimental and ultralight aircraft from a private airstrip nearby, Hanft
and Bingle had plenty of flying experience, according to several who knew
them.
James Clark, an investigator with the Federal Aviation Administration, who
started searching through the plane's wreckage about 5 p.m., said he had not
yet determined the cause of the accident.
Larry Nix, who owns the property where the plane fell, said his wife, who
was home ill, heard the crash.
"She said it sounded like it was going to hit the house," Nix said. "She got
on a golf cart and drove out to them, but by the time she got out there,
some of the guys that were watching them fly at the airstrip had come over
the fence to help."
Ian Garnham, a member of the Lite Blue Angels since about 1996, said Hanft
flew three or four circles solo on a flight path around the airstrip at
Shield's Field, then landed and went up again with Bingle, who owns the
aircraft.
Garnham said experimental aircraft like the one that crashed -- a Chinook
two-seater, single-engine pusher -- do not meet FAA regulations, but they
are proven designs that have been in the air worldwide for years.
An average flight in the plane is about 30 to 40 miles at an altitude of
about 1,000 feet, according to club members.
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| Subject: | Re: ETHANOL AS A FUEL ADDITIVE |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Jim, there is a May deadline for MTBE to be out of the mogas so
ethanol will be
in all our supplies soon. Two negative factors are reduced power
output, and
storage problems. It is problematic for the transportation of gas in
that
the ethanol cannot, for some reason, be added before pipeline
transmission,
but has to be mixed at destination.
We should all be observant of our fuel properties this summer.
-BB
On 23, Apr 2006, at 6:58 AM, Jim Ballenger wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
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> Hello
> In my part of the country, Hampton Roads in Virgina, they are
> switching from MTBE to ethanol as an additive in the fuel. Do any of
> you have any experience using this kind of fuel?
> Thanks
> Jim
> MK3X
> Virginia Beach, VA
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| Subject: | Re: Where the hell is Hauck? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JW Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
Y'all;
Bro John be at my house for a few days.
Bro Jim
On 4/23/2006 9:10:38 AM, planecrazzzy (planecrazzzy@yahoo.com) wrote:
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| Subject: | More on Nico sleeves |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
I found these instructions for cable construction on the EAA web site from
Ron Alexander:
- Determine the length of cable necessary. This should be stated in
your assembly manual. If not, you can use a stretchless cord the same
diameter as the cable to be installed. Route this cord as the cable will be
routed then mark it for cutting.
- Cut the cable. Invest in a pair of cable cutters. They are
inexpensive and they will save you a lot of time and effort. After marking
the cable, place a piece of masking tape around the cable where the cut will
be made. This will leave a nice even cut and will keep the strands of wire
in place during assembly. Do not cut with a torch or subject the wire to
excessive heat in any way.
- Take the thimble to be used and cut off the 4 tips you will see on
the thimble. This will allow the sleeve to fit more snugly.
- Route the cable through the sleeve and then through the turnbuckle
end fitting or the fitting that is being used. Then route it around the
thimble. ( Remember, copper sleeves for galvanized cable and zinc sleeves
for stainless cable ).
- Place the taped end of the cable through the other portion of the
sleeve to complete the initial assembly. Be sure to leave a sufficient
amount of cable extending past the sleeve=97usually an inch or so.
- The compression process will be easier if you slide a cable clamp
over the loose end of the cable and push it securely against the sleeve.
- Make the necessary compressions of the sleeve as shown in Figure 6.
Cables larger than 3/32inch diameter must have 3 compressions done in the
sequence presented. The first compression is made in the center followed by
a compression next to the sleeve. Then the final compression is made. Before
making the final compression remove the cable clamp. Also, prior to
beginning the first compression, insure that a minimum of 1/8 inch of cable
will protrude out of the sleeve after the assembly is complete. The
compression is better performed with a helper. If no one is available then
clamp one arm of the nicopress tool in a vise. That will allow you to
properly perform the compression without assistance.
- When all three compressions have been completed, use the "go-no-go"
gauge that comes with the nicopress tool to check the width of the crimps.
The widest part of the compression should slide into the appropriate slot of
the gauge. If it does not, it means the sleeve has not been properly
compressed.
- Carefully cut off any excess cable and leave at 1/8" inch protruding
beyond the sleeve. Do not nick the working cable in any way.
- Mark the portion of cable that protrudes with a red paint. This will
allow you to see if any slippage has occurred during subsequent inspections.
You may want to slip a length of clear heat shrink tubing over the cable
before you begin the nicopress crimping. When complete, you then slide the
tubing over the loose end of the cable until it is against the sleeve and
shrink it down. This prevents snagging a hand on the sharp strand ends of
the cable and still allows you to view the red mark for slippage.
- A final recommended step is to test the cable by doing a pull test
up to 60% of the rated strength of the cable. Using the torque-arm formula,
a weight suspended from a beam on a fulcrum may be easily constructed to
perform this test. The rated strength of aircraft cable may be found in
Advisory Circular 43-13. Even if you purchase cables that are already
assembled or have someone swage the fittings the pull test is desirable.
This reminded me that somewhere in all the packed boxes of books was my copy
of AC 43-13. If you don't have a copy and you're building an airplane you
should get one IMHO. Check out Illustration 7-14.
For those lacking a nico press sleeve gauge, I found this one via Google.
http://www.air-techinc.com/prod_cat_item.asp?categoryID=3Dtoolmisc&typ=3Dtools&ID=3D1479
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Rick Girard
"Pining for a home on the Range"
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| Subject: | Re: Where the hell is Hauck? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
> For some reason I was thinking that he went to Paul Petty's place.....?
I think the bear in the forum pic was wondering too.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
Just catching up on the conversation but need to put in my observations concerning
wing tips......All the fancy expensive tips will not do any more than flat
pieces of 1/4 plywood at the end of the airfoil. Cropdusters have been doing
it since the end of WW2 on just about every early spray plane that was used
...consensus was that a fence on the end was good .. A lip of 6'" to 12'' above
and below the airfoil all the way around depending on your own preference...ugly
....but it works. Lots of Stearmans were set up this way and I flew one
for a while . Added effect was the wingtip vortice is reduced that helps in a
better spray pattern and reduced drift...Early experimental guys had the same
result in that it increases control and lowers stall at low speeds and helps at
cruise...
I remember hearing the story of the Cherokee driver buying the expensive x-brand
wingtip and flying his machine with no apparent improvement....decided to
replace one tip with the original and left the x-brand on one side and flew
it with no difference in handling ....then removed all wing tips and no change
again . Put the fancy ones back on cause it looked " purrdy"....Is this just
an "urban legend" or is there some fact to it ? Anybody know ?
On the subject of Scott Crossfield ...I'm dissappointed in Chuck Yeagers comments
(if true). I would think he would be wise enough to know not to criticize
a dead pilot when the facts aren't known yet...Even when the facts from the
investigation are in , key info may be overlooked . I have seen accident investigations
botched so the best policy is to grieve their passing and shut-up...
Cropduster
Ed in Western NY
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| Subject: | Re: Dangerous or just scary |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
I put two nicropress sleeves on all my cables for the same reasons Mr. Pike
talks about but... Engineering data suggests that these joints a much
stronger than the cables so if they are done right there is no problem. Some
times us backyard engineers do things to our planes that we think makes them
stronger but in fact crates a weakness where there was none. The single
sleeve is normal aircraft practice.
I have seen Tim's work up close and it is shows some of the best
craftsmanship I have ever seen. I for one would not think twice of flying
anything he has worked on.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
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From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Dangerous or just scary
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
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> I would like to see the nicopress sleeves doubled up. On every wire
> pictured. Nicos are cheap for the benefit that redundancy provides.
> Maybe the factories have enough quality control that they can get by
> with just one... we are amateurs, nicos are cheap, and redundancy is a
> good thing.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "DrHook" <csgale@yahoo.com>
The Goal:
Get all certificates that would be required to get my Sports Pilot Licence Cerificate,
during the Re-build of the Firestar project at hand.
OK so, I am a new member of EAA as of yesterday. So thats a start.
And there is no dought, I am in the right place, Here to get the advice to do that.
So for you guys that have done this and or are doing this. Can you steer me in
the most practicle, "affordable", easiest way to do this.
I have been reading up on, and will continue to read-up on the things required.
So, yes I could search the archives and probably find the answers I need here.
but hoping some of you guys got the answers and advice at your fingertips.
So I suppose, what I need to help me is, the order in which to do things and what
exactly to do.
EAA has this Homebuilt Certification Kit, Here are the details for this kit.
March 30, 2006 - EAA's new Amateur-Built Aircraft Certification Kit includes everything
you need to register and certificate a new experimental amateur-built
aircraft. The 15-page, step-by-step Certification Guide walks you through the
entire process-from getting an N number to the aircraft inspection-and provides
samples of how to complete each required form.
EAA staff member and Amateur-Built DAR Joe Norris, who reviewed all of the materials
included in the kit, commented, "Whenever I inspect an aircraft for certification,
the paperwork is what causes delays more often than anything on the
aircraft. This guide will make a homebuilder's inspection go a lot easier."
The certification kit also includes all FAA forms, Experimental sticker (in black), dataplate, and a convenient placard decal sheet. Cost for EAA members is $12.99 plus shipping. The kit is also available for non-members for $19.99 plus shipping. To order, call EAA Membership Services at 800/JOIN EAA (564-6322), or visit http://shop.eaa.org.
For $12.99 I think this will help me out, big time.
So here is an aricle that caught my I as well. Its from an older Plane & Pilot
magazine.
Traditional kit planes regulations required that the owner and/or builder construct
a minimum of 51% of the aircraft, which would take hundreds of hours of labor.
The new sport experimental rules, on the other hand, only call for the builder
to participate and sign off that he or she has played a part in making
the aircraft airworthy. The builder also needs to attend formal training classes
to earn a repairmans certificate for minor maintenance, but the whole process
is much less time-consuming than it has been in the past.
EAA has these Repairmen LSA Workshops.
Will I have to take this $300.00 16hr class?
So there it is, any help, advice and guidance would be Mucho appriciated,
Thanks Chris
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
The Plans call for two nicco sleeves at each end....
If he feels safe with one , That's his choice... That's why they call it
Experimental I guess...
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| Subject: | galled threads... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
My part arrived / installed Friday, final assembly and testing on Saturday,
followed by a test flight.
Unplanned unorganized unofficial trip to MV is now only waiting for good
weather.
Boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Dangerous or just scary |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
According to 43-13 one, done correctly, is plenty strong. I'd rather have one done
correctly than two done poorly.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>>get my Sports Pilot Licence Cerificate
>>Can you steer me in the most practicle, "affordable", easiest way to do
this.
Dear Chris:
I am no expert, however last month's Aero Connections magazine (the magazine
produced by ASC), has an article called something like "Sport Pilot on a
Shoestring." It appears to provide some good getting started advice with
lots of websites where you can explore further.
Good luck!
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty@hughes.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Petty
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:42 PM
Subject: new e-mail
Hi Kolbers!
I have switched over to Hughes network for my internet provider. My new e-mail
address is paulpetty@hughes.net. Ms. Dixie is coming along nicely and I expect
to be covering soon. Had a exciting morning here at Harris Field when a 802 Airtractor
landed at our tiny 1700' strip. For those that know our place he landed
from the SOUTH! right over the tall trees then took off to the south. I caught
it all on video and will share it when I figure out all this new stuff. All
of my C-gate.net stuff will soon go away so if there are any photos you would
like to capture I would do it soon. Happy building and flying Kolb aircraft
everyone!
Paul Petty
Ms Dixie Kolbra 012
912UL warp
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<snip>
On the subject of Scott Crossfield ...I'm dissappointed in Chuck
Yeagers comments (if true). I would think he would be wise enough to
know not to criticize a dead pilot when the facts aren't known
yet...Even when the facts from the investigation are in , key info may
be overlooked . I have seen accident investigations botched so the best
policy is to grieve their passing and shut-up...
Cropduster Ed in Western NY
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<snip>
Haven't heard what 'ol Chuck said...what was it?
Jeremy
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Greetings
May I please request a hold on my emails until we get back in the country in
September .
Thank you and happy flying
John Parker
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Kolbers, to help clear up any inaccuracy in my earlier post:
A federal energy bill passed last year ended the requirement that motor
fuel contain an oxygenate additive like MTBE. Some refineries said the
federal requirement that they use an oxygenate gave them legal immunity
from liability suits related to MTBE groundwater contamination, and are
hurrying to switch to ethanol because they fear that protection will
lapse once that section of the energy bill takes effect May 6.
So there is no mandate to use ethanol but currently there is no
recognized bulk substitute.
-and that is in seriously short supply.
-BB do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: ETHANOL AS A FUEL ADDITIVE |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com
Jim,
They are changing over here in Delaware as we speak. My understanding is
that Rotax says "no ethanol." GA pilots with auto gas STC's are in the same boat.
Larry Tasker
MKlllx 582
N615RT
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net>
Hi All, I just sent an E-mail to Lockwood Aviation tech help, about ethanol
in auto gas, to see what their recommendation is. If they answer me I will
let the list know what they have to say. Lanny Fetterman F.S.
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| Subject: | Re: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:19:46 -0700 "DrHook" <csgale@yahoo.com> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "DrHook" <csgale@yahoo.com>
>
> The Goal:
> Get all certificates that would be required to get my Sports Pilot
> Licence Cerificate, during the Re-build of the Firestar project at
> hand.
>
> OK so, I am a new member of EAA as of yesterday. So thats a start.
> And there is no dought, I am in the right place, Here to get the
> advice to do that.
>
> So for you guys that have done this and or are doing this. Can you
> steer me in the most practicle, "affordable", easiest way to do
> this.
> I have been reading up on, and will continue to read-up on the
> things required.
> So, yes I could search the archives and probably find the answers I
> need here.
> but hoping some of you guys got the answers and advice at your
> fingertips.
> So I suppose, what I need to help me is, the order in which to do
> things and what exactly to do.
> EAA has this Homebuilt Certification Kit, Here are the details for
> this kit.
>
> March 30, 2006 - EAA's new Amateur-Built Aircraft Certification Kit
> includes everything you need to register and certificate a new
> experimental amateur-built aircraft. The 15-page, step-by-step
> Certification Guide walks you through the entire process-from
> getting an N number to the aircraft inspection-and provides samples
> of how to complete each required form.
> EAA staff member and Amateur-Built DAR Joe Norris, who reviewed all
> of the materials included in the kit, commented, "Whenever I inspect
> an aircraft for certification, the paperwork is what causes delays
> more often than anything on the aircraft. This guide will make a
> homebuilder's inspection go a lot easier."
>
> The certification kit also includes all FAA forms, Experimental
> sticker (in black), dataplate, and a convenient placard decal sheet.
> Cost for EAA members is $12.99 plus shipping. The kit is also
> available for non-members for $19.99 plus shipping. To order, call
> EAA Membership Services at 800/JOIN EAA (564-6322), or visit
> http://shop.eaa.org.
>
>
> For $12.99 I think this will help me out, big time.
> So here is an aricle that caught my I as well. Its from an older
> Plane & Pilot magazine.
>
> Traditional kit planes regulations required that the owner and/or
> builder construct a minimum of 51% of the aircraft, which would take
> hundreds of hours of labor. The new sport experimental rules, on the
> other hand, only call for the builder to participate and sign off
> that he or she has played a part in making the aircraft airworthy.
> The builder also needs to attend formal training classes to earn a
> repairmans certificate for minor maintenance, but the whole process
> is much less time-consuming than it has been in the past.
>
> EAA has these Repairmen LSA Workshops.
> Will I have to take this $300.00 16hr class?
>
> So there it is, any help, advice and guidance would be Mucho
> appriciated,
> Thanks Chris
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> Kolb Firestar owner, Rebuild-Recover job at hand.
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| Subject: | Re: Dangerous or just scary |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Mr. Pike
| talks about but... Engineering data suggests that these joints a
much
| stronger than the cables so if they are done right there is no
problem. Some
| times us backyard engineers do things to our planes that we think
makes them
| stronger but in fact crates a weakness where there was none. The
single
| sleeve is normal aircraft practice.
|
| Rick Neilsen
Hi Gang:
Here is a good publication a lot of us should stick our noses in. It
will answer a lot of questions "correctly". It is Advisory Circular
43.13-1B:
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/99C827DB9BAAC81B86256B4500596C4E?OpenDocument&Highlight=acceptable%20methods
Here is a shortened version of the above url:
http://urlsnip.com/512534
The entire circular is available at this site.
I normally use two nicropress sleeves for 3/32 and smaller cable.
1/8" I use one, I think. I used 1/8" cable for my up elevator cable,
but it has been so long ago I forgot if I used two or one. Based on
how well I assemble my cables and hardware, I choose to use two
sleeves. Gives me that extra little bit of assureance that it will be
there for the duration.
I agree with what Rick Neilsen and Richard Pike had to say about
cables and hardware.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: galled threads... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
good
| weather.
|
| Boyd
Had me going for a while, Boyd. These darn airplanes always break a
day or two before a long flight. Happens every time.
Glad you got your part and will be expected at MV on time. ;-)
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: new e-mail |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Had a exciting morning here at Harris Field when a 802 Airtractor
landed at our tiny 1700' strip. For those that know our place he
landed from the SOUTH! right over the tall trees then took off to the
south. |
| Paul Petty
I won't land any direction but south and take off to the north at
Harris Field. Probably very doable for some, but the location,
terrain, orientation, are such that it is very, very intimidating,
even when landing the easy direction. ;-)
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herb Gayheart" <herbgh@juno.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone
before me
Herb:
Could you cut some of the referenced msg. There was so much junk in
there I never did find your reply.
Folks, it only takes a second to cut out most of the referenced msg.
Leave enough so we know what you are replying to. Will do wonders to
clean up "our" List.
Thanks from an old tired fart,
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Another Milestone??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
FireFlyers & Kolbers,
On the 590th landing, I bent landing gear leg. I took off from I22 and had climbed
to about 750 feet agl when the engine dropped to an idle. A split connector
for the throttle cable had come un screwed. I was too low to return to the
airport so elected for a cross wind landing in a corn field that was close to
a house and a main road.
Landed with the corn rows. Did not seem like I hit that hard but the up wind landing
gear leg was bent back and up about 4 to 6 inches. No damage to the tail
feathers. Walked to the house and no one was home, nor was there anyone next
door. But a couple of fellows in a pickup drove up. They had been working
in a woods not far away and saw me land. They gave me a lift back to the airport.
My wife and son-in-law helped to remove the wings and we strapped them to the back
to small pickups and took them to the hangar. Then I put the folded tail
up in my pickup and trailed it back to the airport.
I forgot to shut off my stick timer, and by the time everything was back at the
airport and in the hangar, 2 hours and 46 minutes has passed.
My wife took some photos, and when I get some time, I will put them up on the web.
I have used this splitter for years with no problem. It is made from a TV cable
connector and has very fine threads. I used to check it every flight, but it
never came loose. But it did today. I found oil in the connector. I re-lubricated
the cables and evidently the oil wicked on into the splitter and lubricated
the threaded nuts that hold the cable ends in place. IF!! it had been
safetied I would not have to straighten a landing gear leg. IF!! I had kept it
on my check list, I may have found it was loose.
End of a good day in that all I have to do is straighten a landing gear leg.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 4/23/2006 5:33:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,
jbhart@onlyinternet.net writes:
End of a good day in that all I have to do is straighten a landing gear leg.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
Jack,
Sounds like you fared extremely well with minimal damage. This is a
good report as far as I am concerned . Glad to hear you will be back at it soon.
Ive always been concerned about the stock throttle cable ends coming loose.
Has anyone on the list heard of that happening?
Ed (Firefly #062)
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| Subject: | Re: Another Milestone??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
Friend Jack,
You mislabled yer last msg..s/b Millstone! Think you can get the leg
hot enough, just by applying several four-letter functional words to it!
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Glad you are alright and only a gear leg bent.
Is there some particular reason you used a TV cable fitting rather
than a normal throttle cable fitting provided by Kolb?
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Runway Direction |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Reading a prior post referencing landing and take off direction I
noticed reference "from" one direction and "to" another direction
which can play tricks in your mind. When operating in a traffic
pattern use of proper references can reduce potential confusion so I
thought this might be a good time for some basic procedures.
On the initial position reporting and intentions, reporting "5 miles
North in bound landing 18" is short, clear and specific. Terminology
on runway direction can be confusing - normally when stated you
reference the landing or takeoff direction or the runway #. Example:
Green Ultralight Landing Runway 18 followed by the name of the
facility, say Short Stop. In the case where you don't know the exact
runway heading but do (should) know the primary direction state
landing to the South. By keeping to the same reference points it
makes things safer.
jerb
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| Subject: | Re: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
> So for you guys that have done this and or are doing this. Can you steer
> me in the most practicle, "affordable", easiest way to do this.
Chris,
Ok, I'm in the process and here's what its cost me so far:
-- $12.99 for EAA's Conversion Guide "How to register and certify your
Ultralight as an Experimental Light-Sport Aircraft."
-- $90.00 to take the Sport Pilot Knowledge Test
-- $5.00 to FAA for my "N" Number
-- $450 for the Airworthiness Certificate.
I still have to do the Following:
-- $??? Arizona registration
-- $??? Arizona Sales Tax
-- $??? Practical Test
-- $300.00 16 Hour Maintenance Course
> March 30, 2006 - EAA's new Amateur-Built Aircraft Certification Kit
> includes everything you need to register and certificate a new
> experimental amateur-built aircraft. The 15-page, step-by-step
> Certification Guide walks you through the entire process-from getting an N
> number to the aircraft inspection-and provides samples of how to complete
> each required form.
This is a very helpful publication and worthwhile. But the one I have is
NOT Experimental Amateur-Built but IS Experimental Light-Sport --- there is
a difference.
"Whenever I inspect an aircraft for certification, the paperwork is what
causes delays more often than anything on the aircraft. This guide will make
a homebuilder's inspection go a lot easier."
I can agree with this. The DAR who inspected my MK III just sent me a
corrected copy of the FAA form 8130-6 (Airworthiness Certificate) because
"it had a typo." The form he sent me to sign has four mistakes in it.
> The certification kit also includes all FAA forms, Experimental sticker
> (in black), dataplate, and a convenient placard decal sheet. Cost for EAA
> members is $12.99 plus shipping. The kit is also available for non-members
> for $19.99 plus shipping. To order, call EAA Membership Services at
> 800/JOIN EAA (564-6322), or visit http://shop.eaa.org.
> EAA has these Repairmen LSA Workshops. Will I have to take this $300.00
> 16hr class?
As I understand it, if you register Experimental Amateur Built, you don't
have to take the class. But If you register Experimental LSA, you need to
take the class to sign off inspections and do maintenance. But the
advantage is that the next owner can also take the class and not have to use
an A & E guy to sign off stuff. Check with EAA to be sure of this.
Good Luck,
AzDave
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| Subject: | MkII Twinstar for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charles Blackwell <wozani@optonline.net>
For anyone interested I've put my plane up for sale on Barnstormers.com.
<http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_104514_Kolb+MkII+Twinstar+ultralight
%2C+folding+wings.html> KOLB MKII TWINSTAR ULTRALIGHT, FOLDING WINGS .
$8,800 . FOR SALE . Kolb MkII Twinstar '91 build with Rotax 503 DCDI engine
116 hrs, 295 hrs TTA. Always hangared, original stits fabric, some wear
evident, very flyable as is. BRS 750 canister chute needs repack. New Matco
drum brakes, new tires and wheels. New gear legs. Ivoprop 3 blade. Full
windscreen with winterizing lexan plugs. Seat cushion included. Some spare
parts. Easy folding wings. Takes off and lands in less than 300 feet.
Wonderful view, easy handling, comfortable. Flies with 420lbs of people and
12 gallons of gas very nicely. Excellent to train in, side by side seating
with center stick and dual rudder pedals, center throttle. Uses less than 3
gal/hr of gas, has twin 6 gal tanks. Stalls below 35mph, VNE 80mph, cruises
nicely at 65mph. Included is dual EGT/CHT, ASI, Altimeter, Compass.
Kuntzelmann strobes. Shielded sparkplugs/wires/ignition. Pulls to start
easily. This is the most fun to fly plane I've ever been in and will be for
you too. Sick family member, must sell. . Contact Charles
<http://www.barnstormers.com/contact_seller.php?to=47579&id=104514&title=Kol
b+MkII+Twinstar+ultralight%2C+folding+wings&return=%2Flisting.php%3Fmode%3Du
sersearch%26user%3Dwozani%2540optonline.net> E. Blackwell
Didn't sell last fall so I reduced the price..
Charlie Blackwell, MkII in NJ
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| Subject: | Re: ETHANOL AS A FUEL ADDITIVE |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@msbit.net>
> It is problematic for the transportation of gas in
> that
> the ethanol cannot, for some reason, be added before pipeline
> transmission,
> but has to be mixed at destination.
When they send the various grades of gas down the pipeline, I'll give you one
guess what they separate the grades with.......
Since ethanol is hygroscopic, that explains that.
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
Elmore City, OK
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| Subject: | Re: Another Milestone??? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
At 06:03 PM 4/23/06 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Glad you are alright and only a gear leg bent.
>
>Is there some particular reason you used a TV cable fitting rather
>than a normal throttle cable fitting provided by Kolb?
>
>john h
>mkIII
>
John,
A single long cable from throttle lever to the Bing makes it difficult to
remove the needle and clip for mixture adjustments. To make it easier, I
ran the cable through a housing up to just below the front wing attachment
on the throttle side. Then the cable is free suspended until it reaches the
left front engine mount. Here it enters another housing that leads to the
Bing.
The splitter was placed in the open free region. By doing this one can open
the splitter, remove the top of the Bing and the throttle cylinder and pull
the slack out of the cable in the open free region. This lets one change
the needle clip position without having to decompress the throttle return
spring. Also reassembly is much easier in that you can put everything back
into its relative position without compressing the return spring. Once the
throttle cylinder is back in the bore, you use the top cover plate to
compress the spring, start the holding screws and tighten them. Then the
splitter is reassembled. With this system I do not drop carburetor pieces
in the grass, nor do I have springs flying off.
The cable holding set screw fitting at the throttle was drilled at the front
to accept the cable end lead bead. Then one feeds a cable in through the
front up and another from the Bing down. This lets you use standard bicycle
derailer cables rather than the special long cable provided by Kolb. This
arrangement makes it much easier pull the cables out for cleaning and to
lubricate.
I have some photos somewhere of the splitter. If anyone is interested I
will post them.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: ETHANOL AS A FUEL ADDITIVE |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
Jim, in Minnesota ethanol has been in the gas for many years and I have used it
in my Rotax without any problems. Some stations offer ethanol-free gas for 20
cents/gallon over regular. I chose to use the ethanol-free gas.
Ralph
-- "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
Hello
In my part of the country, Hampton Roads in Virgina, they are switching from MTBE
to ethanol as an additive in the fuel. Do any of you have any experience using
this kind of fuel?
Thanks
Jim
MK3X
Virginia Beach, VA
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| Subject: | Re: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
Hi Dave,
Az. Registration $25 every year
Az. Sales tax, none
Practicle test $350, Terry Brandt in Buckeye, Az.
16 hr. course through EAA was $300 + food, travel. Took mine in Riverside, Ca.
All done.
Piece of cake. One day at a time.
Take Care,
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
see you next month in MV
p.s.
Give me a call if you need info about any of the certs.
520-574-1080
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| Subject: | Re: Dangerous or just scary |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Well said. However...
Back in 1979 I built my first flying machine, a Quicksilver B, from
plans. Fortunately, I had an assistant, one of the test pilots from the
North American Rockwell factory located on Albany airport, (currently
Ayers Corp) who was invaluable in knowing how Things Are Done, obtaining
aircraft hardware (yes, I paid for it) and for checking us out a
swedging tool for squeezing the nico sleeves.
It was a swedging tool checked out of the Certified Tool section of the
Rockwell factory. Used for certified aircraft.
Since I had never done any swedging before, I thought it prudent to do a
few practice attempts, cable was cheap, nicos were cheap, and getting it
right seemed important. So I made a couple, and then made a short length
with a loop with thimble & nico on each end. But how to test my attempt?
For whatever reason, (don't remember why) there was a hook in the roof
of my garage, so I hooked one thimble loop over the hook, and put a big
screwdriver through the loop at the lower end. Decided that if I could
chin myself on it by holding the screwdriver with both hands and pulling
up, that would demonstrate that the 3/32 cable could at least hold 180
pounds. ( I was skinnier back then...)
So I gave it a try. It had one nico per thimble. Swedged as per the
book. Using the factory's certified tool...
When that sucker pulled out, with me pulling down on that screwdriver,
supporting all my weight on it, it smashed it into the bridge of my
nose, knocked me silly, hurt like the devil, (I remember that part best
of all) and dumped me semi unconscious on my tush on the garage floor.
Oh, the humanity...
I gave the squeezer tool back to my pal at the Rockwell factory, got a
different one, and used two nicos per thimble loop from then on.
Feel free to use as many nicos as you want, and do it by the book all
you wish, but I know how I will be doing it...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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done correctly than two done poorly.
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Sorry it's taken so long to reply. I've been pretty busy since I got back
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Scott
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