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1. 01:25 AM - Re: Ethanol (Dave Bigelow)
2. 01:25 AM - Re: Dan Johnson...a repeat of mine! (GeoR38@aol.com)
3. 07:33 AM - Re: New "MODS" from "cannon fodder" (planecrazzzy)
4. 09:17 AM - Fuel Tank Gasket Material ? (planecrazzzy)
5. 09:22 AM - Re: Kolb/Harley (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
6. 09:41 AM - Re: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
7. 11:33 AM - Re: Re: Checkout?...I doan need no stinking...... (pat ladd)
8. 11:33 AM - Fiberglass Gear Legs (KenB)
9. 11:49 AM - Re: Re: Checkout?...I doan need no stinking...... (Beauford)
10. 12:26 PM - Re: Re: Checkout?...I doan need no stinking...... (David Key)
11. 02:01 PM - Re: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 (Larry Bourne)
12. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 (Richard Pike)
13. 02:26 PM - Re: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 (robert bean)
14. 02:38 PM - Re: Kolb/Harley (Ralph Hoover)
15. 02:41 PM - Re: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 (John Hauck)
16. 04:29 PM - Re: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 (robert bean)
17. 04:37 PM - Re: Re: Kolb/Harley (Richard Girard)
18. 04:54 PM - Re: New "MODS" from "cannon fodder" (planecrazzzy)
19. 06:06 PM - Re: Fiberglass Gear Legs (Jerry Deckard)
20. 06:33 PM - Re: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
21. 06:34 PM - Re: Fiberglass Gear Legs (Frcole@aol.com)
22. 06:40 PM - Re: Fiberglass Gear Legs (planecrazzzy)
23. 06:49 PM - Re: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 (Larry Bourne)
24. 06:55 PM - Re: Re: Fiberglass Gear Legs (J.D. Stewart)
25. 06:57 PM - Re: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 (Larry Bourne)
26. 07:23 PM - ultrastar flight (Rick Miles)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
> Anyone out there have a practical idea on how to removes the ethanol
> from gas
One way I've heard suggested (but haven't tried) is to take advantage of ethanol's
affinity for water. Add water to the mixture and agitate it. Most of the
ethanol will come out of solution (mixes with the water), and when the mixture
settles down, the apparent amount of water will have increased by the amount
of ethanol that mixed with the water. Pour off the gas, and you should have
very little ethanol left in the mixture.
The octane of the gas will be less than the gas/ethanol mixture, so if you do this
with 87 octane E-10, the remaining gas will be less than 87 octane.
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| Subject: | Re: Dan Johnson...a repeat of mine! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 4/8/2006 1:01:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Blumax008@aol.com writes:
Guess what? It did. Things can happen so easily.
Guess what? I don't put my camera bag there anymore.
Bill Catalina
Florida
put something around your switches so they can not be bumped..... ask me why
I am so adamant on this point
George Randolph
Firestar driver from The Villages, Fl
Rotax 447, 3 blade Ivo, KX, 1991
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| Subject: | Re: New "MODS" from "cannon fodder" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
> I've got some new "mods" on my brake lines ( cables )
> I won't bore you with pictures unless you request them...
Hey thanks for the support...I'll send the address where the pictures are
located...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Fuel Tank Gasket Material ? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hey Guys,
I'm going to make a couple fittings for the bottom of my fuel tanks...
( see "rough" sketch below )
The two pieces of Stainless steel will be concaved to make a low point
in the tanks... this way I can put a gasolator and drain and fuel pick-up at the
lowest point of the tanks ( I might add a "site gauge" too )
My question is...
What are some good Gasket materials....Both Hard & soft ?
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Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Paul/All
The Harley engine looks neat and it sure would sound nice but it isn't a
whole lot less than a 912.
The issues I would be concerned about would be vibrations. Harleys are known
to be big time vibrators already but you would have to add in the vibrations
from the interaction of the engine and the redrive. I have the same type of
redrive on my smooth running VW but the power pulses set up a harmonic
vibration that I have had to deal with. I can't even imagine what that
80-100+ V twin thumper would create in harmonic vibrations.What would it do
to a airframe? Check out the lengths Valley Engineering have had to go
through to tame the vibrations from their smooth running Generac V twin.
http://www.culverprops.com/index.php
Also that redrive is kind of tall. You would have to do some MAJOR work on
the cage to mount the engine low enough to avoid a high thrust line.
My $.02 worth
Rick Neilsen
Flying Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty@hughes.net>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:52 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb/Harley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty@hughes.net>
>
> Hey guys,
>
> Check this out. I learned this morning that a man has ordered a Kolb =
> Mark 3 x-tra quick build kit and is having it shipped to these guys>>> =
> http://www.skyray.us/ to have a Harley engine mounted on it!=20
> This should be a very interesting project. I talked with Brett ay skyray =
> and he is very excited about it!
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
I tried to talk to Kolb about a 0-200 or some other GA engine a few years
ago. All they would say is "way too heavy". My VW is something like 170 +or-
10 pounds or a whole lot less than a 0-200 or Corvair and I think the VW
it's kind of at the limit for the big Kolbs.
Again my $.02
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "jadamson" <j-adamson@tamu.edu>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 7:52 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200
>
> As for weight. gotta be sure we're comparing apples to apples. 205 lbs
> all up, including mount, etc. Comparing to the Corvair (and 0-200) and to
> quote William Wynne (FlyCorvair.com), "I have a lot of data that shows the
> Corvair has an installed flying weight of about 225-230 lbs. .... This is
> slightly below the installed weight of a typical O-200 Continental.".
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| Subject: | Re: Checkout?...I doan need no stinking...... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Hi Ralph,
<<I am waiting for calm, cool, evenings and weekends to get the landing part
down pat. >>
Do it like this.
The flap limiting speed is 50knots.Get below that, throttle back and pull
the nose up. Slide down the approach at around 45knots controlling SPEED
with the stick, ALTITUDE with the throttle.
Pick your landing point. If it climbs up the windscreen you are low. Open
the throttle a bit. If it goes down you are high. Close the throttle a bit.
Pull the nose up a bit and get the speed around 45 knots as you come over
the hedge. Cut the throttle, let her drift downwards at about 35 knots.
When the grass changes from a blur to individual blades ease the stick back,
nose high with the front wheel well clear of the ground and she will sit
down as smooth as silk.
Keep the nose off the ground as long as possible. If you land nose wheel
first you may break the strut. The mains will stand anything.
When you get a bit more comfortable with it you can deal with excess height
on the approach by sideslipping. Stick right over to the side and bootful of
opposite rudder and she will turn sideways and drop out of the sky. Just
watch your speed as the ASI will not read accurately. As soon as you
centralise the controls she will change back into her usual comfortable
self.
It works for me.
Good luck.
If you want to chat off list try pj.ladd@btinternet.com
Pat
do not archive
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| Subject: | Fiberglass Gear Legs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "KenB" <kvbeaupre@hotmail.com>
Hello,
I had an older Mk. II Twinstar with fiberglass gear legs which worked out very
well. I now have a Firefly which I operate from a rough field. Does anyone have
a Firefly with fiberglass gear legs?
Thanks,
Ken
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| Subject: | Re: Checkout?...I doan need no stinking...... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Ralph:
Personally, I think you are doing exactly the right thing by getting
the training.
Flying these little airplanes safely isn't all that difficult, but I
think it does require
certain knowledge and skills that only come to most folks through
quality training.
I don't think you will ever look back and regret having invested in
the dual
instruction with a good instructor. Stay with it.
Fly safe.
Beauford
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@columbus.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Checkout?...I doan need no stinking......
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover"
<flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
>
> beauford,
>
> Then ther is the other side of the fence (track). Me! I have spent
about 15 hours over 8 months learning how to fly > Ohio Ralph...in
need of a fix or a longer field!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31437#31437
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Checkout?...I doan need no stinking...... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
I like your analysis Pat.
I'd add "look at the far end of the runway" right before "Keep the nose off
the runway."
>From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Checkout?...I doan need no stinking......
>Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:32:52 +0100
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
>Hi Ralph,
>
><<I am waiting for calm, cool, evenings and weekends to get the landing
>part
>down pat. >>
>
>Do it like this.
>
>The flap limiting speed is 50knots.Get below that, throttle back and pull
>the nose up. Slide down the approach at around 45knots controlling SPEED
>with the stick, ALTITUDE with the throttle.
>Pick your landing point. If it climbs up the windscreen you are low. Open
>the throttle a bit. If it goes down you are high. Close the throttle a bit.
>Pull the nose up a bit and get the speed around 45 knots as you come over
>the hedge. Cut the throttle, let her drift downwards at about 35 knots.
>When the grass changes from a blur to individual blades ease the stick
>back,
>nose high with the front wheel well clear of the ground and she will sit
>down as smooth as silk.
>Keep the nose off the ground as long as possible. If you land nose wheel
>first you may break the strut. The mains will stand anything.
>
>When you get a bit more comfortable with it you can deal with excess height
>on the approach by sideslipping. Stick right over to the side and bootful
>of
>opposite rudder and she will turn sideways and drop out of the sky. Just
>watch your speed as the ASI will not read accurately. As soon as you
>centralise the controls she will change back into her usual comfortable
>self.
>
>It works for me.
> Good luck.
>
>If you want to chat off list try pj.ladd@btinternet.com
>
>Pat
>
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yah, for sure they're quite a bit heavier, but I've never really been sure
of just what that affects. Let's say you've got a Mk III with a 190# pilot
and a 220# engine. Next to it, an identical (??) Mk III with a 220# pilot
and a 190# engine. Seems to me they should fly the same, assuming
horsepower, etc. are the same. I know, I know, if the 190# pilot had a Mk
III with a 190# engine, he'd certainly see a benefit, but if weights are
equal, performance should be equal..........or am I missing something ??
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
> <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>
> I tried to talk to Kolb about a 0-200 or some other GA engine a few years
> ago. All they would say is "way too heavy".
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
I think what you are missing is - It ain't the flying that causes
problems, it's the unplanned sudden stops. Did you see the accident
pictures of the MKIII Xtra that Norm passed away in? When the airplane
pancaked in, the weight of the 912 collapsed the upper fuselage tubes
and the 912 moved down and forward. Not a good thing. That is probably
the reason why Kolb will not approve heavier engines. But if I were in
their shoes, I wouldn't specify the "why" of the details either...
Therefore - even though I have had six Corvairs over the years, and
found the engines to be smooth and bulletproof (although the cars always
rusted - Body by Fisher - salt included - no extra charge) my MKIII
won't ever have a Corvair engine. Too heavy. A Rotax 582 sitting up 3'
behind my head is light enough that if things go really bad, maybe it
will stay 3' up behind my head...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Larry Bourne wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Yah, for sure they're quite a bit heavier, but I've never really been sure
> of just what that affects. Let's say you've got a Mk III with a 190# pilot
> and a 220# engine. Next to it, an identical (??) Mk III with a 220# pilot
> and a 190# engine. Seems to me they should fly the same, assuming
> horsepower, etc. are the same. I know, I know, if the 190# pilot had a Mk
> III with a 190# engine, he'd certainly see a benefit, but if weights are
> equal, performance should be equal..........or am I missing something ??
> Lar. Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200
>
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
>> <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>>
>> I tried to talk to Kolb about a 0-200 or some other GA engine a few years
>> ago. All they would say is "way too heavy".
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Leaving CG concerns aside, crush factor could be a limitation.
The upper cage is built to withstand a reasonable downward/forward
force in a crash. 220# might cause some damage not foreseen.
Moving the pilot's position 10" forward would help, along with more
beefing of structure. A MkIII already aint no "ultralight" even though
that's what folks on the ground think they are looking at.
Might better design a whole new plane for the O-200.
-BB do not archive
On 29, Apr 2006, at 4:58 PM, Larry Bourne wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Yah, for sure they're quite a bit heavier, but I've never really been
> sure
> of just what that affects. Let's say you've got a Mk III with a 190#
> pilot
> and a 220# engine. Next to it, an identical (??) Mk III with a 220#
> pilot
> and a 190# engine. Seems to me they should fly the same, assuming
> horsepower, etc. are the same. I know, I know, if the 190# pilot had
> a Mk
> III with a 190# engine, he'd certainly see a benefit, but if weights
> are
> equal, performance should be equal..........or am I missing something
> ??
> Lar. Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
>> <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>>
>> I tried to talk to Kolb about a 0-200 or some other GA engine a few
>> years
>> ago. All they would say is "way too heavy".
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
I need to respond to the Harley vibration induced by the manufacturer. Which, by
the way, when Honda was making their look alike, sound alike they were told
that in order to get that potato-potato sound they had to make their engine much
more inefficient, they laughed and looked at each other. Sure enough, until
they put the crank pin where they put it, nobody wanted it. It didn't shake like
the Harley nor did it (then or now) sound like a Harley to the tuned trained
ear.
However, Harley took out the bouncing front fork that was their trademark and counterbalanced
the engine. Now, unfortunately you can look out both mirrors and
see the item coming up on you! Alas...No vibration. Good for airplanes and boats,
bad for real men and the specifically designed external heart pump or vibra-lounger
that we once knew and coveted. The last Harley I rode for 3 hours
didn't cause not even one of my crowns or fillings to come loose. Where's the
thrill in riding something like that?
And to the watching parts and pieces fall off, which the pans, shovels, knuckles
and evo's were famous for, the new engines (over 60,000 miles on mine) still,
hold together. Has to be the locktite!
No longer supporting the dental industry Ralph of Ohio.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| -BB do not archive
Bob B/Gang:
Heard something similar not too long ago. The aircraft should be
designed around the engine.
Maybe that is what Homer Kolb did, rather than design the airplane,
then go out and try to find a power plant to make it
go.................
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Speaking of alternative engines, I actually made my first flight of
the season
before May. This evening I did a little tour about the neighborhood.
My seat belt must have shrunk a little over the winter but I squoze it
down
anyway. Glad it was snug as I did get lifted once out of the seat.
It was a combo joyride and test of the new oil cooler. Being only 60F
it wasn't too necessary but it didn't leak. Little suzuki ran smooth
and cheap. Felt good.
-BB do not archive
On 29, Apr 2006, at 5:42 PM, John Hauck wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> | Might better design a whole new plane for the O-200.
>
>
> Bob B/Gang:
>
> Heard something similar not too long ago. The aircraft should be
> designed around the engine.
>
> Maybe that is what Homer Kolb did, rather than design the airplane,
> then go out and try to find a power plant to make it
> go.................
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
Locktite 242, Ralph, is the miracle us Vibraglide riders prayed for. 14
years since I put my Shovel back together with it and I've never lost a
part. The tingling butt, though is unconquerable. I suppose I could get the
V Rod I ache for (word of warning, never take one for a test drive,
especially if you have a heavy fist), but it would probably develop a Vne
higher than the Mk III. No crazy drivers in the sky, okay, a lot fewer.
On 4/29/06, Ralph Hoover <flht99reh@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.co=
m
> >
>
> I need to respond to the Harley vibration induced by the manufacturer.
> Which, by the way, when Honda was making their look alike, sound alike th=
ey
> were told that in order to get that potato-potato sound they had to make
> their engine much more inefficient, they laughed and looked at each other=
.
> Sure enough, until they put the crank pin where they put it, nobody wante=
d
> it. It didn't shake like the Harley nor did it (then or now) sound like a
> Harley to the tuned trained ear.
>
> However, Harley took out the bouncing front fork that was their trademark
> and counterbalanced the engine. Now, unfortunately you can look out both
> mirrors and see the item coming up on you! Alas...No vibration. Good for
> airplanes and boats, bad for real men and the specifically designed exter=
nal
> heart pump or vibra-lounger that we once knew and coveted. The last Harle=
y I
> rode for 3 hours didn't cause not even one of my crowns or fillings to co=
me
> loose. Where's the thrill in riding something like that?
>
> And to the watching parts and pieces fall off, which the pans, shovels,
> knuckles and evo's were famous for, the new engines (over 60,000 miles on
> mine) still, hold together. Has to be the locktite!
>
> No longer supporting the dental industry Ralph of Ohio.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D31683#31683
>
>
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Rick Girard
"Pining for a home on the Range"
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| Subject: | Re: New "MODS" from "cannon fodder" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
I changed the way the cables are held...
If you go back to the address's I sent , you'll see the Aluminum Duct Tape.....It
hides things pretty good...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass Gear Legs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard" <mustangsally@semo.net>
I was looking at that just today. I have some solid rod left from when I
converted my Challenger to fiberglass gear. The rod I have is just a bit
smaller than the factory legs. I am not to comfortable about turning the
fiberglass rod down small enough to fit in the axle cuffs. I would want to
put larger cuffs on the axles to fit over the fiberglass rod. I may do this
when I get to that point. I have to either do this or buy new legs. Mine was
the one that had the leg expoxyed in the sockets.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "KenB" <kvbeaupre@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 1:29 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fiberglass Gear Legs
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "KenB" <kvbeaupre@hotmail.com>
>
> Hello,
> I had an older Mk. II Twinstar with fiberglass gear legs which worked out
> very well. I now have a Firefly which I operate from a rough field. Does
> anyone have a Firefly with fiberglass gear legs?
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31657#31657
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Ok Lar
Try this one on. I have a 600lb. MKIIIc and some of this weight is not due
to the VW but anyway it is 600lbs. I weigh 220lbs. I add 60lbs. of fuel and
now I'm having to be very careful how much passenger weight I can add. I
beefed up my wings and have jury struts so I have raised my max gross weight
to 1050lbs. but that only gives me 170lbs. for passenger weight.
If you were to put a 0-200 on the same airplane and the engine weighed 80lbs
more you would have only have 90lbs available for passengers. If you wanted
to stay at the factory recommended max weight you would truly have a single
passenger airplane. And that's not taking into account any CG issues.
See we can have fun even if were not talking about Vamoose.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Yah, for sure they're quite a bit heavier, but I've never really been sure
> of just what that affects. Let's say you've got a Mk III with a 190#
> pilot
> and a 220# engine. Next to it, an identical (??) Mk III with a 220# pilot
> and a 190# engine. Seems to me they should fly the same, assuming
> horsepower, etc. are the same. I know, I know, if the 190# pilot had a Mk
> III with a 190# engine, he'd certainly see a benefit, but if weights are
> equal, performance should be equal..........or am I missing something ??
> Lar. Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass Gear Legs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Frcole@aol.com
Have not been following this thread but I did play around with gear legs
some years ago. I bent the original gear during a dead stick landing for fun
from altitude, at that time I still thought I might be able to thermal the Kolb.
Just as I was committed to the flare the grass cutter drove the tractor
onto the runway and the avoidance was interesting. I commandeered some titanium
rod for the legs and made new axle sockets. First landing was in front of a
crowd at a fly in. Titanium is real springy and I bounced and bounced and
bounced, If the plane had been brown they would have thought I was a Kangaroo.
Next were steel tapered legs, turned out heavy but usable. I finished up with
straight un- tapered 7075 aluminum rod from Wicks. It has been the perfect
gear material for me for over 8 years.
Dick C
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass Gear Legs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
There's a website out there that has alot of Fiberglass rods in alot of sizes
I can't find it....I got it from somebody on this list...Hauck maybe???
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yah, OK, that would make a difference, wouldn't it ?? Even tho' we don't
PLan on those sudden stops, it's best to keep the possibility in mind.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> I think what you are missing is - It ain't the flying that causes
> problems, it's the unplanned sudden stops. Did you see the accident
> pictures of the MKIII Xtra that Norm passed away in? When the airplane
> pancaked in, the weight of the 912 collapsed the upper fuselage tubes
> and the 912 moved down and forward. Not a good thing. That is probably
> the reason why Kolb will not approve heavier engines. But if I were in
> their shoes, I wouldn't specify the "why" of the details either...
>
> Therefore - even though I have had six Corvairs over the years, and
> found the engines to be smooth and bulletproof (although the cars always
> rusted - Body by Fisher - salt included - no extra charge) my MKIII
> won't ever have a Corvair engine. Too heavy. A Rotax 582 sitting up 3'
> behind my head is light enough that if things go really bad, maybe it
> will stay 3' up behind my head...
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> Larry Bourne wrote:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>
>> Yah, for sure they're quite a bit heavier, but I've never really been
>> sure
>> of just what that affects. Let's say you've got a Mk III with a 190#
>> pilot
>> and a 220# engine. Next to it, an identical (??) Mk III with a 220#
>> pilot
>> and a 190# engine. Seems to me they should fly the same, assuming
>> horsepower, etc. are the same. I know, I know, if the 190# pilot had a
>> Mk
>> III with a 190# engine, he'd certainly see a benefit, but if weights are
>> equal, performance should be equal..........or am I missing something ??
>> Lar. Do not Archive.
>>
>> Larry Bourne
>> Palm Springs, CA
>> Building Kolb Mk III
>> N78LB Vamoose
>> www.gogittum.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200
>>
>>
>>
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
>>> <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>>>
>>> I tried to talk to Kolb about a 0-200 or some other GA engine a few
>>> years
>>> ago. All they would say is "way too heavy".
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass Gear Legs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.D. Stewart" <jstewart@inebraska.com>
www.mgs4u.com
J.D. Stewart
UltraFun AirSports, LLC
www.ultrafunairsports.com
Titan Aircraft E-mail list
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Titanaircraft/
Challenger E-mail list
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyChallenger/
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
>
> There's a website out there that has alot of Fiberglass rods in
> alot of sizes
> I can't find it....I got it from somebody on this list...Hauck maybe???
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yah, thinking useta be fun.......lately it's starting to hurt, then I lose
track. Hope it's not a trend. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Harley/0-200
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
> <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>
> Ok Lar
>
> Try this one on. I have a 600lb. MKIIIc and some of this weight is not due
> to the VW but anyway it is 600lbs. I weigh 220lbs. I add 60lbs. of fuel
> and
> now I'm having to be very careful how much passenger weight I can add. I
>
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| Subject: | ultrastar flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Rick Miles <ultrastarrick@yahoo.com>
hello all I have finished with my rebuild of the ultrastar and begane taxy tests
to day. The test whent well and I moved to the runway and whent to the high
speed test next thing you know I am 20 ft up and loving it droped the power down
to about 4000 and it seteld nice and soft on the runway. ops I did this Hight
speed test about 8 times before the wind picked up..
Rick Milew
ultrastar Ca.
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