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1. 02:52 AM - Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna (Dave Bigelow)
2. 07:39 AM - Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) (Mike Pierzina)
3. 08:32 AM - Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna (Ralph Hoover)
4. 08:43 AM - Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) (FS2Kolb@aol.com)
5. 08:46 AM - Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) with redundant , "redundancy" (Eugene Zimmerman)
6. 09:08 AM - Re: Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna (John Hauck)
7. 10:17 AM - Re: Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna (Denny Rowe)
8. 10:18 AM - Re: Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna (Denny Rowe)
9. 10:21 AM - Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) with redundant , "redundancy (planecrazzzy)
10. 10:24 AM - Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) (planecrazzzy)
11. 10:48 AM - Re: Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) (flykolb)
12. 11:03 AM - MV 2006 (John Hauck)
13. 11:58 AM - Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) (planecrazzzy)
14. 12:33 PM - Re: MV 2006 (Guillermo Uribe)
15. 12:40 PM - Re: Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) (Guillermo Uribe)
16. 12:52 PM - MV 2006 (John Hauck)
17. 01:02 PM - Re: MV 2006 (Guillermo Uribe)
18. 01:19 PM - Re: MV 2006 (John Hauck)
19. 01:47 PM - Re: MV 2006 (Larry Bourne)
20. 01:51 PM - Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) (planecrazzzy)
21. 01:59 PM - Re: Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) (John Hauck)
22. 02:21 PM - Re: MV 2006 (John Hauck)
23. 03:55 PM - Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) (planecrazzzy)
24. 04:44 PM - Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) (jadamson)
25. 05:11 PM - Re: MV 2006 (Roger Lee)
26. 06:20 PM - Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) (planecrazzzy)
27. 06:49 PM - Re: MV 2006 (Guillermo Uribe)
28. 07:43 PM - Re: MV 2006 (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
29. 07:43 PM - Re: MV 2006 (Larry Bourne)
30. 07:50 PM - Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna (Dave Bigelow)
31. 08:09 PM - Re: MV 2006 (Larry Bourne)
32. 09:07 PM - Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna (Dave Bigelow)
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| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
Ralph,
California Power Systems sells fuel system check valves for about six dollars each.
Another reason for plumbing your redundant fuel system with two pumps in parallel
- if one pump shoots craps in a series installation, the remaining pump has
to pull fuel throught the dead pump (and check valves). Don't be stubborn about
this guys, just because you did it wrong and haven't had a problem yet. That's
probably because you haven't had either pump fail yet. This is an issue
that has been throughly debated over the years in aviation circles. The designers
put them in parallel unless the electric pump at the fuel tank is remotely
located at a distance from the engine pump.
Think about it as related to a two stroke powered Kolb. You have a pulse powered
engine pump that is rated to lift fuel no more than 39 inches. You have fuel
tanks that are at least 30 inches lower than the engine pump. Fail the electric
pump in a series installation, and you are asking the engine pump already
operating near the design limit to pull fuel through the failed pump and its
two internal check valves. You are better off to forget the electric pump entirely
than to plumb them in series.
If this logic is lost on you, read the Rotax installation manual. It says to plumb
the pumps in parallel.
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| Subject: | Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hey Matt,
My Dish satilite has the option of selecting "my favorites".....I
don't have to flip thru "ALL" the channels
to get to the ones "I" watch.....
My E-mail has the option of "blocking" people that I don't care to hear from.....
Why can't you make the Kolb list ( and your other forums) where they can have
this same option....
Then we can personalize our own Kolb list..... If somebody doesn't like others
opinions.....They can "Block"
them from "Their" Kolb list........Your the computer Guru.....Make it Happen
( Please )
I'm sure John Hauck would be on everybody's list.....I'm sure "I" wouldn't....
Then people wouldn't have to leave the list because they can't stand somebody...(
it happens alot )
Waiting for your reply...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
Dave, I went to CPS and was unable to find any check valves. I will call them via
land line. Thanks.
As far as another poster stated in so many words: "Why add check valves as they
exist in the mechanical pump and the electric pump".
There are pumps that like to suck..and they shall be called "vacuum pumps" and
there are pumps that like to blow and they shall be called "pressure pumps".
That said, both the mechanical pump and the electric pump are "blow" pumps. Blow
pumps blow better than they suck and are best located close to the source of
supply, IE. fuel tank. The mechanical pump is located where it is because that's
how rotax did it. Personally, I am amazed that the little mechanical Pump
does such a great job, considering what is demanded of it. But as anyone knows
if they examine the thing it is the opitomy of KISS and would require something
very unusual to cause it to fail. Sucking up to 39" of supply is quite a
feat.Suck is hard on a blow pump but it will work. However, for the electric pump
it would be best located close to the fuel tank. Knowing this means that there
will be a length of exposed rubberie line leading from the pumps to the fuel
use. It would be wise to locate a check valve close to the use point in redundant
pumping systems because if one line developed a leak, or began sucking
air it would cause the other pump to pressurize the whole of the loop. Trying
to fill a hole in the dike with a finger and still suppling the engine with fuel
is asking way too much!
That is where our situation came from, which created this thread. That's why our
plane went down with two fuel pumps. They make a giant loop and the fuel from
one can, in a parallel system, loop past the point of use and out a area of
leak.
If you apply check valves close to the use point, perhaps via manifold, which is
what we will use on my instructors Challenger and my Firestar, any leak from
any fuel pump will not effect the other pumps feeding the two carbs on the 503.
I am the biggest believer of the KISS system but simple must be applied safely.
Now with a two inlet, two outlet manifold and two supply lines from two fuel
pumps coming together to feed two carbs, it would take redundant fuel pump
shutdowns to end the supply.
One poster stated putting a pressure gauge on the system. A manifold with four
ports along one side and a port through one end would allow two check valves from
two feed supplies and two discharges to two carbs as well as a small pressure
0-6 PSI.
Then the process is simple. Turn on the electric (no squeeze ball) pump, let it
pressurize the system. Read the gauge. Full choke three pulls according to Rotax
(for the 503 don't know about the others). Engine starts, cut back choke (actually
an enricher) and allow warm-up. shut down electric, read gauge. Turn
electric pump on again and "Bobs your Uncle"!
If anyone finds fault with this analogy, I will disavow any knowledge of its creator!
And, unlike my previous posts, I will use the words "do not archive", rather
than state that this thread will self distruct, here in Ohio Ralph!
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| Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: FS2Kolb@aol.com
Mike you can do this yourself by adding a few rules in your outlook program
without having to bother Matt about it.
In a message dated 5/13/2006 8:40:15 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
planecrazzzy@yahoo.com writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hey Matt,
My Dish satilite has the option of selecting "my favorites".....I don't have
to flip thru "ALL" the channels
to get to the ones "I" watch.....
My E-mail has the option of "blocking" people that I don't care to hear
from.....
Why can't you make the Kolb list ( and your other forums) where they can
have this same option....
Then we can personalize our own Kolb list..... If somebody doesn't like
others opinions.....They can "Block"
them from "Their" Kolb list........Your the computer Guru.....Make it Happen
( Please )
I'm sure John Hauck would be on everybody's list.....I'm sure "I"
wouldn't....
Then people wouldn't have to leave the list because they can't stand
somebody...( it happens alot )
Waiting for your reply...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) with redundant , "redundancy" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
Hey Mike, good idea.
Then we could all have the Kolb list with redundant ,
"redundancy". ;~D
On May 13, 2006, at 10:36 AM, Mike Pierzina wrote:
> My E-mail has the option of "blocking" people that I don't care to
> hear from.....
>
> Why can't you make the Kolb list ( and your other forums) where
> they can have this same option....
>
> Then we can personalize our own Kolb list..... If somebody
> doesn't like others opinions.....They can "Block"
>
> them from "Their" Kolb list........Your the computer
> Guru.....Make it Happen ( Please )
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Another reason for plumbing your redundant fuel system with two
pumps in parallel - if one pump shoots craps in a series installation,
the remaining pump has to pull fuel throught the dead pump (and check
valves). Don't be stubborn about this guys, just because you did it
wrong and haven't had a problem yet. That's probably because you
haven't had either pump fail yet. This is an issue that has been
throughly debated over the years in aviation circles. The designers
put them in parallel unless the electric pump at the fuel tank is
remotely located at a distance from the engine pump.
|
| Think about it as related to a two stroke powered Kolb. You have a
pulse powered engine pump that is rated to lift fuel no more than 39
inches. You have fuel tanks that are at least 30 inches lower than
the engine pump. Fail the electric pump in a series installation, and
you are asking the engine pump already operating near the design limit
to pull fuel through the failed pump and its two internal check
valves. You are better off to forget the electric pump entirely than
to plumb them in series.
|
| If this logic is lost on you, read the Rotax installation manual.
It says to plumb the pumps in parallel.
|
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| Dave Bigelow
| Kamuela, Hawaii
| FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
Dave/Ralph/Gang:
I plumbed my two strokes (Ultrastar had two mikunis/FS had Facet and
mikuni) in series, as I do my 4 stroke.
Lost the "no name" electric pump on the FS, and the little Mikuni kept
on pumping.
Was my procedure to shut down the electric pump after reaching
altitude. Little Mikuni pulled fuel through the dead electric pump
for 755 hours without a burp or slurp.
Same, same the 4 stroke, pushing 2,500 hours.
It works, and it works well.
If for some reason the Facet sticks one of its two check valves in the
closed position, I will experience fuel starvation. Chances of the
engine driven pump sticking one of its two check valves is nearly
impossible on the four stroke, and impossible on the two stroke pump
(valves are fabric on the Mikuni).
Really don't see that I am doing it wrong. I am doing it my way.
There are other problems that can and have put me down, like a plugged
fuel filter. Simply sampling fuel after taking on fuel would have
prevented two forced landings on my part. Pilot responsiblity, and I
was totally wrong both occasions.
You can plumb your airplane anyway you want to. It will be fine with
me. I will not tell you, you are wrong for doing so.
Adding additional check valves increases the amount of resistance the
remaining operational fuel pump must work through should one fail.
The Rotax Installation Manual for the 912ULS calls for a return fuel
line to the fuel tank. It is not required by practical experience,
even though the book says to use one.
Fuel line leaks??? Possible if you don't check clamps and physical
condition of your fuel hoses. Clear plastic fuel lines are known not
to have much longevity and fail quite often. Urethane fuel line
usually fails on the pulse line from engine to pump. Pays to reach up
there and pull on the clear line, even when it looks good. Might be
surprised when it pulls off in your hand. Went to Gates heavy duty
neoprene fuel line many years ago. Haven't had any problems, and it
lasts for many, many hours.
Again, I am not telling anyone else to do it the way I do. Simply
sharing the way I do it, one way that works well for me.
Still trying not to complicate the system. ;-)
john h
mkIII 2,468.1 hours
912ULS 1,122.2 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Low pressure check valve?
See McMasterCarr.com
I got the one I put on my Mk-3 from them and it was very reasonable.
Make sure you get one with the Viton seal .
Denny rowe
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From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@columbus.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 10:19 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am
gonna
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover"
> <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
>
> Eugene, I believe that the reason John didn't write anything was because
> it was 1500 and dark as night. He couldn't see his hand in front of his
> keyboard. I guess we're all taken aback by his utter failure to utter!
>
>
> Speaking of John, I'll bet he could tell us, as many others could the
> reason why the only fuel check valve, working in our pressure range, in
> our fuel mixture (ring-a-ding fuel), that I could only locate ONE check
> valve and its $ 50.00 EACH!
>
> I mean, after looking at Parker, Swaglock and 24 pages of internet under
> the description of "Fuel Check Valve", that was the only one and that
> through Spruce. Is there anything else out there? Oh, there are a few from
> the automotive racing community but the breakaway pressures are out of our
> range and there are the go carts but they don't intentionally get off the
> ground. there are aslo the hobby scale planes and outboard motorboaters,
> but again their land bound and plastic and differing in pressures. Any
> help out there? Or did we use up this thread?
>
> Cheap skate Ohio Ralph
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> Someone wrote:
> I haven't followed this thread too closely, but if you're using Facet
> electric pumps, several models have integral check valves.
>
>
> I could hardly blow through my Facet pump when it was new so I got a good
> check valve from McMaster-Carr with a real low opening pressure and I do
> not have to worry about the Facet resticting fuel when it is off.
Denny Rowe
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) with redundant , "redundancy |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
> Hey Mike, good idea.
> Then we could all have the Kolb list with redundant ,
> "redundancy". ;~D
>
I don't get it....... Is redundant the "theme word" lately ???
I'd say Gotta Fly... But that would be redundant...
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| Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
FS2Kolb(at)aol.com wrote:
> Mike you can do this yourself by adding a few rules in your outlook program
> without having to bother Matt about it.
>
>
>
And how is that suppose to screen messages on the Kolb List....
Please explain.....
Gotta Fly...
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@wowway.com>
Mike
In Outlook, go to Tools, Message Rules, Mail, Blocked senders, Add and then
type in
planecrazzzy@yahoo.com. No more emails from Mike!
Yahoo!!
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 1:24 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt)
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
>
>
> FS2Kolb(at)aol.com wrote:
> > Mike you can do this yourself by adding a few rules in your outlook
program
> > without having to bother Matt about it.
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> >
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> And how is that suppose to screen messages on the Kolb List....
> Please explain.....
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Weather is cruddy in Central Alabama. Got my gold plated Bing Carb
parts yesterday. Will try to get them installed, along with new
throttle cables today.
Plan to depart for MV Tuesday morning. That'll put me into MV
Thursday afternoon, 18 May. I can still leave as late as Wednesday
and get there Friday morning.
Weather looks good at this time for the flight from here all the way
to MV.
Looking forward to MV, seeing my old buddies and meeting new ones.
Also time for another Navajo Taco and some Navajo Fry Bread and honey.
The service station/convenience store has some pretty good fried
chicken too.
And the resturant has excellent coffee. ;-)
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
This has NOTHING to do with REGULAR E-Mails.....Yes , I know how to
BLOCK incoming E MAILS on my PERSONAL e mail address.....
Yet , How do I bock YOU on the KOLB LIST ( just an example )
Redundant...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
I will be departing from El Paso, TX Thursday morning and should be there in
the afternoon. They have thunderstorms forecast for center to northern New
Mexico so my itinerary is not set in stone. Dave Rains will be flying in
from Dallas on Thursday in his Cessna.
Will U.
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:04 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: MV 2006
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Weather is cruddy in Central Alabama. Got my gold plated Bing Carb
parts yesterday. Will try to get them installed, along with new
throttle cables today.
Plan to depart for MV Tuesday morning. That'll put me into MV
Thursday afternoon, 18 May. I can still leave as late as Wednesday
and get there Friday morning.
Weather looks good at this time for the flight from here all the way
to MV.
Looking forward to MV, seeing my old buddies and meeting new ones.
Also time for another Navajo Taco and some Navajo Fry Bread and honey.
The service station/convenience store has some pretty good fried
chicken too.
And the resturant has excellent coffee. ;-)
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
Mike
I think there is a misunderstanding or you didn't make yourself very clear.
I have my outlook setup so I only get e-mails having the word FireStars, the
rest are deleted. I receive all the Kolb list e-mails on AOL.
Are you asking about the web based Kolb List?
Regards,
Will U.
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of planecrazzzy
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:56 PM
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
This has NOTHING to do with REGULAR E-Mails.....Yes , I know how to
BLOCK incoming E MAILS on my PERSONAL e mail address.....
Yet , How do I bock YOU on the KOLB LIST ( just an example )
Redundant...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Is Will Uribe flying his FS to MV this year?
john h
mkIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
Roger that
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 1:52 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: MV 2006
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Is Will Uribe flying his FS to MV this year?
john h
mkIII
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| --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guillermo Uribe"
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| Roger that
Will:
Good on ya, pardner!
Must say I miss the excitement involved in serious cross country
flying in a FS and a two stroke. Cut my cross country teeth on them a
few years ago.
Have a super, safe flight, Will!
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
.........and the best chile rellenos anywhere. :-) Do not
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From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:03 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: MV 2006
> Looking forward to MV, seeing my old buddies and meeting new ones.
>
> Also time for another Navajo Taco and some Navajo Fry Bread and honey.
>
> The service station/convenience store has some pretty good fried
> chicken too.
>
> And the resturant has excellent coffee. ;-)
>
> john h
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| Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hi Will,
So what they were talking about "would" sift thru the garbage...
My "outlook" isn't set up....I'm getting free internet access thru The University
of MN....
I was talking about the "Web base" that you mentioned....
But the way you described, I would just go thru the "Daily" individual emails....and
block them that way....Right ?
I'm still not sure how to do it...
I'll call tech support and see if I can get the "outlook" to work...
Sorry guys, I guess I didn't understand that you understood....
Gotta Fly...
Redundant
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| Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| So what they were talking about "would" sift thru the
garbage...
Maybe this should go bc.
john h
mkIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne"
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| .........and the best chile rellenos anywhere. :-) Do
not
| Archive.
Gang:
The old Garmin GPS 196 is updated, both Jeppesen and Obstacle
Clearance.
Some time back John W informed me that I was legal to fly with updated
Jep Data Base, even though my sectionals were out of date. That
covers the MKIII for insurance purposes, and keeps me relatively safe
from landing at what I think are uncontrolled airports that suddenly
sprout an operational control tower. Ooooops!
The Obstacle Data Base is not 100%, but it is much better than flying
low level without that capability.
GPS has made our sport much, much safer. Saves a lot of time and fuel
navigating cross country. Would be hard to go back to the sectional
and mag compass.
Chile Rellenos are one of my favorite. Will give them a try when I
get to Gouldings.
Take care,
john h
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hi John,
I thought we "were" talking something about Kolb...( the list)
I don't have a clue what "bc" is.... Blind carbon ???
Gotta
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| Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jadamson" <j-adamson@tamu.edu>
If you get posts via email, then you can set the filters in your email client (Outlook,
Outlook Express, Thunderbird, whatever) to block specific content. The
filters in some clients are sometimes called "rules".
If, OTOH, you look at the email list via the web, that's a different deal. I believe
Matt or someone would have to write some code that allows a logged-in user
to have a "blocked" list. Probably wouldn't work for "guests", tho.
Could be done but, jeez, is it really necessary? We all have a choice in this,
whether it's to read what a given person posts and/or whether or not we want
to reply to it, etc etc. BS can always just be ignored.
John A (TX)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
Hi All,
I'll be leaving Tucson in my Mark III with a Zenith 701. Will pick up another Zenith
701 in Payson, AZ. The 3 of us will leave the Tucson area around 0500 hrs.
Thursday and be in MV about 1200 hrs. A Rans S12 should also be flying up Friday
from the Tucson area. Looks like fun in the sun.
Roger Lee
Tucson, AZ.
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| Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
jadamson wrote:
>
>
> Could be done but, jeez, is it really necessary? We all have a choice in this,
whether it's to read what a given person posts and/or whether or not we want
to reply to it, etc etc. BS can always just be ignored.
>
> John A (TX)
It's only an Idea.... just wondering about the possibilities....
Wheather or not it could be done....
Yes, posts can be ignored.... but their not....which leads to bickering...
Or leaving....
That's why I thought it would be a good idea if you could customize
your own "kolb list"....
I still haven't gotten word back from "tech support" on how to set up my
outlook express....I don't know the address to put in the server box...
Gotta Fly...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
I just spent $30.95 on sectionals and WACs.
I will be making short flight hopefully not lasting more then 2 hours each.
Here is my planed flight; I may have to deviate around some thunderstorms
and restricted areas.
T27 to KTCS 121 miles
KTCS to KGNT 130 miles
KGNT to KGUP 55.4 miles
KGUP to UT25 131 miles
Dave will be carrying my camping gear in his Cessna so if he is held up in
route due to weather I will be sleeping under a tree. Tree???? Whats that?
Regards,
Will U.
http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV 2006
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne"
<biglar@gogittum.com>
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| .........and the best chile rellenos anywhere. :-) Do
not
| Archive.
Gang:
The old Garmin GPS 196 is updated, both Jeppesen and Obstacle
Clearance.
Some time back John W informed me that I was legal to fly with updated
Jep Data Base, even though my sectionals were out of date. That
covers the MKIII for insurance purposes, and keeps me relatively safe
from landing at what I think are uncontrolled airports that suddenly
sprout an operational control tower. Ooooops!
The Obstacle Data Base is not 100%, but it is much better than flying
low level without that capability.
GPS has made our sport much, much safer. Saves a lot of time and fuel
navigating cross country. Would be hard to go back to the sectional
and mag compass.
Chile Rellenos are one of my favorite. Will give them a try when I
get to Gouldings.
Take care,
john h
hauck's holler, alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
All MV 2006 attendees
I hope everyone has another wonderful trip to Monument Valley this year. I
can't describe how much I'm going to miss it this year. I was only there one
year and didn't have my plane there but it was very special. I will miss
giving Big Lar a rough time, the great photo flight I had with Dave in his
Cessna and all the great people that attended last year. MAYBE next year I
will figure a way to get my plane out there.
Everyone have a safe trip I will be waiting for reports.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV 2006
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I'll trade ya - enchiladas and rellenos for another ride in Miss P'fer.
Wel-l-l-l-l........maybe I'll throw in some gas money, too, considering the
price of the stuff. :-)
The Navajo Tacos are so good I didn't try anything different till the last
meal last year. The New Mexico style chicken enchiladas and chile rellenos
at Goulding's are terrific, and very different from what we get here.
The output is re-assembled on Vamoose' engine, it's partly cleaned up, and
the re-drive will go back on tomorrow. All going well, it should be running
tomorrow and we'll see about that stubborn oil leak. I think I got it -
finally. Several changes have been made.
The camper will go back on the truck tomorrow, as well, after a couple of
weeks off, and I've already started sorting gear. Sounds like this is gonna
be a good visit this time........as have all the others been.
Lar. Do not Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV 2006
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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> <biglar@gogittum.com>
> not
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> Chile Rellenos are one of my favorite. Will give them a try when I
> get to Gouldings.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
> hauck's holler, alabama
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
Ralph,
My CPS catalog is a couple of years old, but the plastic check valve is listed
as part number 7234 for $6.95.
I must have missed your first post. Did you have a pump failure in a parallel
plumbed system where the check valves in the failed pump also failed?
I have my electric pump mounted next to and level with the bottom of my fuel tanks,
so it gets to be a "pressure pump". It would be best if the Mikuni pulse
pump could also be mounted at that level, but the pulse line length from the
crankcase is limited to 20 inches in length. I hadn't thought of it previously,
but you could use a length of copper tubing for most of the run to the fuel
tank with a short lenth of the normal flexible tubing at either end (total flex
not to exceed 20 inches).
In my previous post, I forgot to add the fuel filter to list of restrictions that
the Mikuni must "suck" through with a failed series installation.
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Fire away, Gridley. We can handle it. :-) If you'll promise to be there
next year, I'll promise to bring Vamoose. (I hope :-) Tomorrow will tell
the story, tho' it's hard to work out there........temps were over 100
today - have been all week - and fairly humid. I hafta say that all went
well today, and everything looks very good, tho' I mis-doubt my safety
wiring will win any beauty awards. It'll do the job, tho'...............
Optimism rules. Lar. Do not Archive.
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From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV 2006
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
> <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>
> All MV 2006 attendees
>
> I hope everyone has another wonderful trip to Monument Valley this year. I
> can't describe how much I'm going to miss it this year. I was only there
> one
> year and didn't have my plane there but it was very special. I will miss
> giving Big Lar a rough time, the great photo flight I had with Dave in his
> Cessna and all the great people that attended last year. MAYBE next year I
> will figure a way to get my plane out there.
>
> Everyone have a safe trip I will be waiting for reports.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
>
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| Subject: | Re: Redundancy.. I am not gonna repeat myself ! but I am gonna |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
John,
I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do - only share what I know to be an accepted
aviation practice. I'm glad you had a really good Mikuni that pulled fuel
succesfully through a dead electric pump for many hours. Most of the time those
little pumps do great.
This list is only a very small little piece of the aviation world. There's a lot
of lessons that have been learned the hard way over the years, and that's the
reason for "accepted practices". The sharing of that information is one of
the primary reasons this list exists. Untimately, each builder and operator
can sift throught the info here and plumb his fuel system any way he wants.
>From my Rotax Installation manual on page 15-1:
"If the fuel tank is considerably lower than the engine, an electric pump should
be used. The pump is to be connected in parallel...."
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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