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1. 05:35 AM - Re: HELP, I`m so confused (Airgriff2@AOL.COM)
2. 05:39 AM - Re: HELP I`m so confused (Thom Riddle)
3. 05:51 AM - Re: Bow tips (GeoR38@aol.com)
4. 06:12 AM - Re: HELP I`m so confused (Robert Laird)
5. 06:47 AM - Re: Photos of S&F (GeoR38@AOL.COM)
6. 08:59 AM - Re: Redundancy (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
7. 09:12 AM - Bing-64 Carbs (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
8. 09:44 AM - MV 2006 (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
9. 10:01 AM - Re: HELP I`m so confused (George E. Thompson)
10. 10:15 AM - Boom Angle... (David Lehman)
11. 10:33 AM - Re: Bing-64 Carbs (John Hauck)
12. 03:09 PM - 2003 Mark III For Sale (Bob Brocious)
13. 05:14 PM - Re: HELP I`m so confused (Larry Bourne)
14. 05:14 PM - Re: 2003 Mark III For Sale (Ralph Hoover)
15. 05:26 PM - Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) (Ralph Hoover)
16. 06:57 PM - Re: 2003 Mark III For Sale (Jeremy Casey)
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Subject: | Re: HELP, I`m so confused |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
Lanny and gang, most all your questions can be answered by looking on the
"sportpilot.org" web site. ELSA and SLSA are the two ways to buy one of the
new "certified light sport aircraft's". ELSA is the kit form and SLSA (special
light sport aircraft) is complete ready to fly. There was a time frame for you
to get credit for all the flying as an ultrlight pilot towards your sport
pilot rating. You can check to see if that has gone by or not? It is also my
understanding that any licensed A&P can inspect any of the LSA's or Experimental
as in the past. There are new courses out to allow an owner of a LSA to do
work and inspections on their aircraft and also 120 hr courses to do work and
inspections on any LSA.
Hope this helps
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
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Subject: | Re: HELP I`m so confused |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
... inspected by someone certificated as a repairman for that make and
model?
Wrong, it must be the owner of the plane....
The LSA Repairman Certificate has two possible ratings. The 16 hour
course is for Inspection and applies only to an E-LSA that the
repairman owns. The other rating (Maintenance) is a much longer course
but entitles its holder to do inspections on any E-LSA or S-LSA and
charge for his services, if he so desires. It is sort of like a junior
A&P ticket limited to LSA. The LSA Repairman Certificate with
Maintenance Rating also allows its holder to do any prescribed
maintenance on any S-LSA in the class (airplane, for example) that the
Repairman Certificate applies to, and that the manufacturer explicitly
states is permitted. He can charge for this service as well.
For aircraft registered as Exp. Amateur Built, there are only two kinds
of people that are legally allowed to do annual condition inspections.
One is the person with the Repairman Certificate specific to that
aircraft (the builder) or any A&P mechanic. Maintenance on Exp Am-built
aircraft can be done by its owner even if he did not build it.
Regardless of which registration is done, it must stay with that type
of registration for as long as the aircraft lives. It cannot be
changed from either to the other.
Regardless of which registration is used, as long as it does not exceed
any of the limitations for LSA, any pilot rated Sport or higher can fly
it AFTER it has been inspected, and where applicable, the phase one
testing is completed. I THINK (not certain) that if it is exp-am-built
the phase one testing must be done by a Private Pilot or higher but if
it is E-LSA then a Sport Pilot can fly it immediately after its
inspection.
Thom in Buffalo
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 4/22/2006 12:23:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
rp3420@freescale.com writes:
www.milows.com
Tim... finally went to your website....luv dem pictures.... did anyone
actually get mad at the tiny lil girl...... soooo cute.
George Randolph
Firestar driver from The Villages, Fl
Rotax 447, 3 blade Ivo, KX, 1991
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Subject: | Re: HELP I`m so confused |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
On 5/15/06, Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
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> Regardless of which registration is done, it must stay with that type
> of registration for as long as the aircraft lives. It cannot be
> changed from either to the other.
A subtle exception to this rule: if someone buys an SLSA and then
decides they want to do the maintenance for it (assuming they take the
LS-I course), then they can request that it be changed from an SLSA to
an ELSA.
> Regardless of which registration is used, as long as it does not exceed
> any of the limitations for LSA, any pilot rated Sport or higher can fly
> it AFTER it has been inspected, and where applicable, the phase one
> testing is completed. I THINK (not certain) that if it is exp-am-built
> the phase one testing must be done by a Private Pilot or higher but if
> it is E-LSA then a Sport Pilot can fly it immediately after its
> inspection.
Another point; if the aircraft is a fomer "fat ultralight" and you
have, say, 100 hours of flying time in it, and when it's converted to
an E-LSA, and the operating limitations say you must fly it for, say,
5 hours for Phase I testing, then you ALREADY have more than 5 hours
of flying it, so your Phase I testing is complete. The key to this is
that the operating limitation do not say the 5 hours of Phase I flying
need to be done AFTER it was converted to ELSA.
I got this info in the LS-I course I took this weekend.
-- Robert
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Subject: | Re: Photos of S&F |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 4/24/2006 2:20:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Icrashrc@aol.com writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Icrashrc@aol.com
Sorry it's taken so long to reply. I've been pretty busy since I got back
from SnF. There's a few of my pics from SnF 2006 here...
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?icrashrc
absolutely luv those pictures....most especially the one of the P-40 flying
tiger my favorite WWII fighter.....sumpin wrong wid it though...has chinese
markings and if looks like an "N" version which came out after the Chinese
effort by the AVG......... sorry.
George Randolph
Firestar driver from The Villages, Fl
Rotax 447, 3 blade Ivo, KX, 1991
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
<< I start the engine using only the primary pump and continue thru warm-up
and run up. Just before take off I switch on the Facet pump. After takeoff I
turn the Facet pump off. Rick Neilsen >>
This is how I used to do it. Thought I was saving wear and tear on the
Facet fuel pump. But after reading Richard Pike's enlightening post
regarding the expected operating life of the Facet fuel pump (gazillion
hours), and after hearing Rick Neilsen's account of experiencing failures in
Facet pumps in the past, I think I will change my procedures.
>From now on, I'm just gonna leave the Facet pump turned "on" for the
duration of my flying. On the 912, running both pumps in series (electric
one first, followed by the mechanical pump) does not overpressure the carbs.
Although I do not have a fuel pressure sensor, my carbs have never
experienced overpressure (with both pumps operating) sufficient to cause
fuel to overflow from the float bowls, as long as the engine is running.
Maybe the Mikuni pressure-pulse pump (on the two-stroke Rotax engines)
provides different results ... I do not know.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912ul
Getting ready to depart for Monument Valley on Thursday
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
<< Dennis: That outlet on the float bowl chamber of the 912 carb is not an
overflow as I thought when I initially installed the 912 on my mkIII
in 1994. That is one of the static air sources that works with the
other static air source in the lip of the carb inlet john h >>
Thanks, John - I stand corrected.
(Thinking of signing up for one of Eric Tucker's 912 courses!)
Dennis Kirby
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Since I am driving to Monument Valley, Mark-III in tow, I'll throw some
firewood into the back of my truck. Also, I'll have donuts and a pot of hot
coffee going on Friday morning, in the parking area at Goulding's airstrip.
Is Dave Rains again planning to bring cases of excellent German beer in his
hauls-everything Cessna-175? Looking forward to seeing everybody ...
Dennis Kirby
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Subject: | Re: HELP I`m so confused |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
Say Lar. Why don't you hook up a trickle charger while you are gone to MV.
When you get back it will be charged up. Just leave it on, it wouldn't over
charge. If you don't have one, they are only about $20.
Az Bald Eagle
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From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HELP I`m so confused
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
> On 5/15/06, Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net> wrote:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
>>
>> Regardless of which registration is done, it must stay with that type
>> of registration for as long as the aircraft lives. It cannot be
>> changed from either to the other.
>
> A subtle exception to this rule: if someone buys an SLSA and then
> decides they want to do the maintenance for it (assuming they take the
> LS-I course), then they can request that it be changed from an SLSA to
> an ELSA.
>
>> Regardless of which registration is used, as long as it does not exceed
>> any of the limitations for LSA, any pilot rated Sport or higher can fly
>> it AFTER it has been inspected, and where applicable, the phase one
>> testing is completed. I THINK (not certain) that if it is exp-am-built
>> the phase one testing must be done by a Private Pilot or higher but if
>> it is E-LSA then a Sport Pilot can fly it immediately after its
>> inspection.
>
> Another point; if the aircraft is a fomer "fat ultralight" and you
> have, say, 100 hours of flying time in it, and when it's converted to
> an E-LSA, and the operating limitations say you must fly it for, say,
> 5 hours for Phase I testing, then you ALREADY have more than 5 hours
> of flying it, so your Phase I testing is complete. The key to this is
> that the operating limitation do not say the 5 hours of Phase I flying
> need to be done AFTER it was converted to ELSA.
>
> I got this info in the LS-I course I took this weekend.
>
> -- Robert
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net>
Does anyone know if the boom angle (in relation to the wing chord) is the
same on the Firefly and early Firestar?...
Oh yeah, and if they know, please tell me... I'm trying to use Steve B's
Firefly as a model to rig the floats on my Firestar...
Thanx...
David
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Subject: | Re: Bing-64 Carbs |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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| Dennis Kirby
Dennis/Gang:
Roger!
Nice to get info from the horse's mouth, reference Rotax two and four
stroke engines. Many times what Eric presents to his classes, differs
greatly from what I get from "other" sources.
Three time grad of the 912 school and still got a lot to learn.
john h
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Subject: | 2003 Mark III For Sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Brocious" <bbrocious@hotmail.com>
Folks,
My 2003 Kolb Mark III, Miss B is for sale.
TT airframe 44 hours
TT engine 4+ hours (582 zero-timed by Alan Layman, Solo Aviation, Rotax
Repair Station
EIS Electronic Information System with altimeter
Airspeed indicator
Turn and bank
Dual sticks
Bicycle type hand brake on pilot's stick
Dual headsets and intercom
Wired with Hot box for strobes
Most often asked questions:
Why are you selling? I am in the midst of building a new house for by bride
of 31 years who has endured 5 years of living in a mobile home on our farm.
My daughter is also getting married this December 21st. I need to free up
some cash, so Miss B needs a new home.
Why was the engine overhauled? The engine came with no documented history.
It quit on me once shortly after take off. I returned to the runway and
decided I would never fly with an undocumented engine nor would I ever sell
one. It was determined that the engine quit due to garbage in the carbs.
Price: $18,900 firm. I have lots of pictures and probably one of the best
builder documented aircraft around. She is licensed experimental. N57MB.
Drop me an email or call my cell phone. I'm in north central Kentucky.
(502) 417-8197. You can read a story about Miss B in the September issue of
Experimenter Magazine.
Bob
Bob Brocious
Tenacity Farm
Carrollton, Kentucky
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Subject: | Re: HELP I`m so confused |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Got one, and I'll do that. Thanks George. I'm on the final count-down,
and trying to figure what to load 1st. Ahhhh...........dilemmas.
Lar. Do not Archive.
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From: "George E. Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HELP I`m so confused
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Thompson"
> <eagle1@commspeed.net>
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> Say Lar. Why don't you hook up a trickle charger while you are gone to MV.
> When you get back it will be
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Subject: | Re: 2003 Mark III For Sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
Bob, That is an admirable thing you do for your loved ones. I admire that. And
with the cost of weddings today, you do your daughter a great tribute. Tell her
to advise her other half he better be appreciative of this woman and make her
a keeper, or you know a lot of pilots that will come down and whop his hind
end. Or just take him on a long flight! Ha, Ha!
Someday, perhaps you may have the opportunity to be back in the P.I.C. saddle again.
I hope your loved one appreciate what you are doing.
Numb for words here in Ohio Ralph!
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Subject: | Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
WHERE IS THE LOVE IN BLOCKING PEOPLE? Whops I didn't mean to shout. We are family,
my Kolber buddies and me!
Frankly I love hearing differing views (sometimes refered to as love bickering).
Sure as I am Ohio Ralph, someone that has something important to my specific
interest or need would be an individual that I might otherwise disagree with,
therefore block and regret their importance later. NO ONE here has value-less
information or opinions or views! Except perhaps me, and I can take the punishment!
Now gimme some love here. If the House and Senate can get along, surely we can.
And by the way, I hope none of you guys chased away my identical twin brother
Patt Ladd! That would make me grate my teeth, which by the way, I do anyway!
Peace sign on Ohio Ralph!
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Subject: | 2003 Mark III For Sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
<snip>
My daughter is also getting married this December 21st. I need to free
up
some cash, so Miss B needs a new home.
Bob
<snip>
Make the offer my daddy-in-law did...if they want a REALLY SMALL chapel
wedding (immediate family only) then write them a check for about 50% of
what the big wedding would have cost and let them take a really nice
honeymoon!!! My bride opted for the big wedding, but after all the
stress of the big wedding we both agreed later that a nice long
stress-free honeymoon would have been better...and saved daddy-in-law
about 3-4 grand... ;-)
Jeremy "older and wiser" Casey
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