---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/15/06: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:35 AM - Re: HELP, I`m so confused (Airgriff2@AOL.COM) 2. 05:39 AM - Re: HELP I`m so confused (Thom Riddle) 3. 05:51 AM - Re: Bow tips (GeoR38@aol.com) 4. 06:12 AM - Re: HELP I`m so confused (Robert Laird) 5. 06:47 AM - Re: Photos of S&F (GeoR38@AOL.COM) 6. 08:59 AM - Re: Redundancy (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL) 7. 09:12 AM - Bing-64 Carbs (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL) 8. 09:44 AM - MV 2006 (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL) 9. 10:01 AM - Re: HELP I`m so confused (George E. Thompson) 10. 10:15 AM - Boom Angle... (David Lehman) 11. 10:33 AM - Re: Bing-64 Carbs (John Hauck) 12. 03:09 PM - 2003 Mark III For Sale (Bob Brocious) 13. 05:14 PM - Re: HELP I`m so confused (Larry Bourne) 14. 05:14 PM - Re: 2003 Mark III For Sale (Ralph Hoover) 15. 05:26 PM - Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) (Ralph Hoover) 16. 06:57 PM - Re: 2003 Mark III For Sale (Jeremy Casey) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:13 AM PST US From: Airgriff2@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HELP, I`m so confused --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com Lanny and gang, most all your questions can be answered by looking on the "sportpilot.org" web site. ELSA and SLSA are the two ways to buy one of the new "certified light sport aircraft's". ELSA is the kit form and SLSA (special light sport aircraft) is complete ready to fly. There was a time frame for you to get credit for all the flying as an ultrlight pilot towards your sport pilot rating. You can check to see if that has gone by or not? It is also my understanding that any licensed A&P can inspect any of the LSA's or Experimental as in the past. There are new courses out to allow an owner of a LSA to do work and inspections on their aircraft and also 120 hr courses to do work and inspections on any LSA. Hope this helps Fly Safe Bob Griffin ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:22 AM PST US From: Thom Riddle Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HELP I`m so confused --> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle ... inspected by someone certificated as a repairman for that make and model? Wrong, it must be the owner of the plane.... The LSA Repairman Certificate has two possible ratings. The 16 hour course is for Inspection and applies only to an E-LSA that the repairman owns. The other rating (Maintenance) is a much longer course but entitles its holder to do inspections on any E-LSA or S-LSA and charge for his services, if he so desires. It is sort of like a junior A&P ticket limited to LSA. The LSA Repairman Certificate with Maintenance Rating also allows its holder to do any prescribed maintenance on any S-LSA in the class (airplane, for example) that the Repairman Certificate applies to, and that the manufacturer explicitly states is permitted. He can charge for this service as well. For aircraft registered as Exp. Amateur Built, there are only two kinds of people that are legally allowed to do annual condition inspections. One is the person with the Repairman Certificate specific to that aircraft (the builder) or any A&P mechanic. Maintenance on Exp Am-built aircraft can be done by its owner even if he did not build it. Regardless of which registration is done, it must stay with that type of registration for as long as the aircraft lives. It cannot be changed from either to the other. Regardless of which registration is used, as long as it does not exceed any of the limitations for LSA, any pilot rated Sport or higher can fly it AFTER it has been inspected, and where applicable, the phase one testing is completed. I THINK (not certain) that if it is exp-am-built the phase one testing must be done by a Private Pilot or higher but if it is E-LSA then a Sport Pilot can fly it immediately after its inspection. Thom in Buffalo ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:09 AM PST US From: GeoR38@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bow tips --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 4/22/2006 12:23:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rp3420@freescale.com writes: www.milows.com Tim... finally went to your website....luv dem pictures.... did anyone actually get mad at the tiny lil girl...... soooo cute. George Randolph Firestar driver from The Villages, Fl Rotax 447, 3 blade Ivo, KX, 1991 Do not Archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:05 AM PST US From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HELP I`m so confused --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" On 5/15/06, Thom Riddle wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle > > Regardless of which registration is done, it must stay with that type > of registration for as long as the aircraft lives. It cannot be > changed from either to the other. A subtle exception to this rule: if someone buys an SLSA and then decides they want to do the maintenance for it (assuming they take the LS-I course), then they can request that it be changed from an SLSA to an ELSA. > Regardless of which registration is used, as long as it does not exceed > any of the limitations for LSA, any pilot rated Sport or higher can fly > it AFTER it has been inspected, and where applicable, the phase one > testing is completed. I THINK (not certain) that if it is exp-am-built > the phase one testing must be done by a Private Pilot or higher but if > it is E-LSA then a Sport Pilot can fly it immediately after its > inspection. Another point; if the aircraft is a fomer "fat ultralight" and you have, say, 100 hours of flying time in it, and when it's converted to an E-LSA, and the operating limitations say you must fly it for, say, 5 hours for Phase I testing, then you ALREADY have more than 5 hours of flying it, so your Phase I testing is complete. The key to this is that the operating limitation do not say the 5 hours of Phase I flying need to be done AFTER it was converted to ELSA. I got this info in the LS-I course I took this weekend. -- Robert ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:27 AM PST US From: GeoR38@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Photos of S&F --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 4/24/2006 2:20:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Icrashrc@aol.com writes: --> Kolb-List message posted by: Icrashrc@aol.com Sorry it's taken so long to reply. I've been pretty busy since I got back from SnF. There's a few of my pics from SnF 2006 here... http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?icrashrc absolutely luv those pictures....most especially the one of the P-40 flying tiger my favorite WWII fighter.....sumpin wrong wid it though...has chinese markings and if looks like an "N" version which came out after the Chinese effort by the AVG......... sorry. George Randolph Firestar driver from The Villages, Fl Rotax 447, 3 blade Ivo, KX, 1991 Do not Archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:59:27 AM PST US From: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Redundancy --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL << I start the engine using only the primary pump and continue thru warm-up and run up. Just before take off I switch on the Facet pump. After takeoff I turn the Facet pump off. Rick Neilsen >> This is how I used to do it. Thought I was saving wear and tear on the Facet fuel pump. But after reading Richard Pike's enlightening post regarding the expected operating life of the Facet fuel pump (gazillion hours), and after hearing Rick Neilsen's account of experiencing failures in Facet pumps in the past, I think I will change my procedures. >From now on, I'm just gonna leave the Facet pump turned "on" for the duration of my flying. On the 912, running both pumps in series (electric one first, followed by the mechanical pump) does not overpressure the carbs. Although I do not have a fuel pressure sensor, my carbs have never experienced overpressure (with both pumps operating) sufficient to cause fuel to overflow from the float bowls, as long as the engine is running. Maybe the Mikuni pressure-pulse pump (on the two-stroke Rotax engines) provides different results ... I do not know. Dennis Kirby Mark-III, 912ul Getting ready to depart for Monument Valley on Thursday ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:48 AM PST US From: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL Subject: Kolb-List: Bing-64 Carbs --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL << Dennis: That outlet on the float bowl chamber of the 912 carb is not an overflow as I thought when I initially installed the 912 on my mkIII in 1994. That is one of the static air sources that works with the other static air source in the lip of the carb inlet john h >> Thanks, John - I stand corrected. (Thinking of signing up for one of Eric Tucker's 912 courses!) Dennis Kirby Do not archive

<< Dennis: = That outlet on the float bowl chamber of the 912 carb is not an =

overflow as I = thought when I initially installed the 912 on my mkIII

in 1994.  = That is one of the static air sources that works with the

other static air = source in the lip of the carb inlet john h >>

 

Thanks, John = – I stand corrected.

(Thinking of = signing up for one of Eric Tucker’s 912 courses!)

Dennis = Kirby

Do not = archive

 

________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:25 AM PST US From: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL Subject: Kolb-List: MV 2006 --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL Since I am driving to Monument Valley, Mark-III in tow, I'll throw some firewood into the back of my truck. Also, I'll have donuts and a pot of hot coffee going on Friday morning, in the parking area at Goulding's airstrip. Is Dave Rains again planning to bring cases of excellent German beer in his hauls-everything Cessna-175? Looking forward to seeing everybody ... Dennis Kirby Do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:01:39 AM PST US From: "George E. Thompson" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HELP I`m so confused --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Thompson" Say Lar. Why don't you hook up a trickle charger while you are gone to MV. When you get back it will be charged up. Just leave it on, it wouldn't over charge. If you don't have one, they are only about $20. Az Bald Eagle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Laird" Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:11 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HELP I`m so confused > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" > > On 5/15/06, Thom Riddle wrote: >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle >> >> Regardless of which registration is done, it must stay with that type >> of registration for as long as the aircraft lives. It cannot be >> changed from either to the other. > > A subtle exception to this rule: if someone buys an SLSA and then > decides they want to do the maintenance for it (assuming they take the > LS-I course), then they can request that it be changed from an SLSA to > an ELSA. > >> Regardless of which registration is used, as long as it does not exceed >> any of the limitations for LSA, any pilot rated Sport or higher can fly >> it AFTER it has been inspected, and where applicable, the phase one >> testing is completed. I THINK (not certain) that if it is exp-am-built >> the phase one testing must be done by a Private Pilot or higher but if >> it is E-LSA then a Sport Pilot can fly it immediately after its >> inspection. > > Another point; if the aircraft is a fomer "fat ultralight" and you > have, say, 100 hours of flying time in it, and when it's converted to > an E-LSA, and the operating limitations say you must fly it for, say, > 5 hours for Phase I testing, then you ALREADY have more than 5 hours > of flying it, so your Phase I testing is complete. The key to this is > that the operating limitation do not say the 5 hours of Phase I flying > need to be done AFTER it was converted to ELSA. > > I got this info in the LS-I course I took this weekend. > > -- Robert > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/339 - Release Date: 5/14/2006 > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:15:52 AM PST US From: "David Lehman" Subject: Kolb-List: Boom Angle... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Lehman" Does anyone know if the boom angle (in relation to the wing chord) is the same on the Firefly and early Firestar?... Oh yeah, and if they know, please tell me... I'm trying to use Steve B's Firefly as a model to rig the floats on my Firestar... Thanx... David do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:33:13 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bing-64 Carbs --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | | Dennis Kirby Dennis/Gang: Roger! Nice to get info from the horse's mouth, reference Rotax two and four stroke engines. Many times what Eric presents to his classes, differs greatly from what I get from "other" sources. Three time grad of the 912 school and still got a lot to learn. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:46 PM PST US From: "Bob Brocious" Subject: Kolb-List: 2003 Mark III For Sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Brocious" Folks, My 2003 Kolb Mark III, Miss B is for sale. TT airframe 44 hours TT engine 4+ hours (582 zero-timed by Alan Layman, Solo Aviation, Rotax Repair Station EIS Electronic Information System with altimeter Airspeed indicator Turn and bank Dual sticks Bicycle type hand brake on pilot's stick Dual headsets and intercom Wired with Hot box for strobes Most often asked questions: Why are you selling? I am in the midst of building a new house for by bride of 31 years who has endured 5 years of living in a mobile home on our farm. My daughter is also getting married this December 21st. I need to free up some cash, so Miss B needs a new home. Why was the engine overhauled? The engine came with no documented history. It quit on me once shortly after take off. I returned to the runway and decided I would never fly with an undocumented engine nor would I ever sell one. It was determined that the engine quit due to garbage in the carbs. Price: $18,900 firm. I have lots of pictures and probably one of the best builder documented aircraft around. She is licensed experimental. N57MB. Drop me an email or call my cell phone. I'm in north central Kentucky. (502) 417-8197. You can read a story about Miss B in the September issue of Experimenter Magazine. Bob Bob Brocious Tenacity Farm Carrollton, Kentucky ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:15 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HELP I`m so confused --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Got one, and I'll do that. Thanks George. I'm on the final count-down, and trying to figure what to load 1st. Ahhhh...........dilemmas. Lar. Do not Archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "George E. Thompson" Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HELP I`m so confused > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Thompson" > > > Say Lar. Why don't you hook up a trickle charger while you are gone to MV. > When you get back it will be ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:15 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 2003 Mark III For Sale From: "Ralph Hoover" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" Bob, That is an admirable thing you do for your loved ones. I admire that. And with the cost of weddings today, you do your daughter a great tribute. Tell her to advise her other half he better be appreciative of this woman and make her a keeper, or you know a lot of pilots that will come down and whop his hind end. Or just take him on a long flight! Ha, Ha! Someday, perhaps you may have the opportunity to be back in the P.I.C. saddle again. I hope your loved one appreciate what you are doing. Numb for words here in Ohio Ralph! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=34788#34788 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:26:52 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Personalized "Kolb list" (Matt) From: "Ralph Hoover" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" WHERE IS THE LOVE IN BLOCKING PEOPLE? Whops I didn't mean to shout. We are family, my Kolber buddies and me! Frankly I love hearing differing views (sometimes refered to as love bickering). Sure as I am Ohio Ralph, someone that has something important to my specific interest or need would be an individual that I might otherwise disagree with, therefore block and regret their importance later. NO ONE here has value-less information or opinions or views! Except perhaps me, and I can take the punishment! Now gimme some love here. If the House and Senate can get along, surely we can. And by the way, I hope none of you guys chased away my identical twin brother Patt Ladd! That would make me grate my teeth, which by the way, I do anyway! Peace sign on Ohio Ralph! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=34792#34792 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:57:00 PM PST US From: "Jeremy Casey" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: 2003 Mark III For Sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" My daughter is also getting married this December 21st. I need to free up some cash, so Miss B needs a new home. Bob Make the offer my daddy-in-law did...if they want a REALLY SMALL chapel wedding (immediate family only) then write them a check for about 50% of what the big wedding would have cost and let them take a really nice honeymoon!!! My bride opted for the big wedding, but after all the stress of the big wedding we both agreed later that a nice long stress-free honeymoon would have been better...and saved daddy-in-law about 3-4 grand... ;-) Jeremy "older and wiser" Casey