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1. 03:28 AM - Re: Re: bent ultrastar (pat ladd)
2. 05:37 AM - Monument Valley Test (biglar)
3. 05:52 AM - Re: Monument Valley Test (biglar)
4. 06:05 AM - Flight with Dave Rains (biglar)
5. 06:14 AM - Muley Mesa by Road (biglar)
6. 08:16 AM - Re: home from MV (George E. Thompson)
7. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: obit (russ kinne)
8. 10:39 AM - Re: Electric fuel pump installation (Mnflyer)
9. 11:22 AM - Re: Re: Electric fuel pump installation (robert bean)
10. 02:03 PM - How I spent my MV vacation - worked on fuel tank (John Bickham)
11. 04:41 PM - Re: home from MV (Guillermo Uribe)
12. 07:04 PM - Re: home from MV (Larry Bourne)
13. 08:11 PM - Re: home from MV (Richard Pike)
14. 08:34 PM - Re: Muley Mesa by Road (Bob Noyer)
15. 09:40 PM - Re: Re: Electric fuel pump installation (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: bent ultrastar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Pulling the BRS for an engine failure is a bad idea. >>
Hi,
surely this depends on what is underneath you. If there is a chance of even
a rough field landing I would agree but if you are over a pine forest it
might be a better proposition to drop vertically, comparatively slowly, than
to fly almost horizontally at 30 mph into the tree tops.
Tangling the shrouds in a stopped prop? Even worse to tangle them in a
revolving one..
Are chutes compulsory in the US?. I think they are in Germany but few people
in the UK fit them, mainly because of the weight.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Monument Valley Test |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "biglar" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Let's try another test. Here's 2 views of the sunrise at MV, and one of the view
from the hotel. Nice Place ! ! ! Lar.
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Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk IIIC
"Vamoose"
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley Test |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "biglar" <biglar@gogittum.com>
OK, this time it worked, but the pictures are in reverse order of what I wanted.
Does this mean I hafta tell a story backwards ?? Grumble.
Lar. Do not Archive.
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Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk IIIC
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| Subject: | Flight with Dave Rains |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "biglar" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Saturday, Dave Rains took my cousin and I for a flight over MV, then to Mexican
Hat, about 20 miles NE. Unique country.
Thanks again for the ride, Dave. Would you like me send you some of the pics from
the flight ?? Rest of the trip ??
Lar.
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Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk IIIC
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| Subject: | Muley Mesa by Road |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "biglar" <biglar@gogittum.com>
After seeing the mesa from the air, we decided on a run up there in the diesel
Dodge. Interesting. The road up that hill was fun, and fine, as long as you
watch what you're doing. The dirt road to the end was fine.
Lar.
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Larry Bourne
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| Subject: | Re: home from MV |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
Happy you made it home safe. We had a terrible wind here Monday. I showed
a gust of 27 and I thought that was pretty bad. I worried about our other
flyers who were still enroute home. Lucky you found a hanger.
And thanks for the ride, I really appreciate it.
Az Bald Eagle
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From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 7:15 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: home from MV
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
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> Just made it home from MV this afternoon... stayed under our wings on
> Sunday night,,, wind and rain kept us on the ground Monday. high wind
> warnings prompted us to see about a hanger for our planes and ourselves on
> Monday night, had only been in the hanger about 15 to 20 min, before the
> wind started. the awos reported 49 gusting to 56.. we were real happy
> to
> be inside.. john w and john h went west to the Alvord desert and I went
> north to home..
>
> Boyd
>
> Do not archive.
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> No virus found in this incoming message.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Pat
I' ve heard it was a Cessna 210 but dunno any details other than "wx-
related"
Deliverey was a floating Clorox-bottle but went OK. Now in the air
(Boeing 717) to get the next one, a Grand Banks 42, FL to Nantucket.
Should be more fun MUCH nicer boat (which I've run 3 times already)
and about 2 weex. You must come along sometime!
Best.
Russ
On May 9, 2006, at 8:40 AM, pat ladd wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
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> Did you get info on Crossfield?
>>>
>
> Hi Russ,
>
> I have learned that he apparently broke up in a storm cell driving his
> Spamcan. Still haven`t heard what Yeagers comment was that got
> everyone so
> riled.
>
> 2 weeks away ? Nice delivery somewhere?
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
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> 05/05/2006
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| Subject: | Re: Electric fuel pump installation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mnflyer" <gbsb2002@yahoo.com>
I am curious, I fully ubderstand the desire for dual pumps in the event that one
pump fails, but why you anyone install a paralle sytem, there by doubleing the
chances for failure, double the fuel lines and check valve that are prone to
failure generally in the open postion? A dual series system only requires an
electric fuel pump with and out put check valve a single fuel line to the pulse
pump and then on to the carbs.
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GB
MNFlyer
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| Subject: | Re: Electric fuel pump installation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
I have to admit that I might like some back up for my single pump,
but the Facet is heavy enough by itself without doubling up.
Inline looks like a poor way to go as any blockage would put both out
of business.
Parallel, if indeed they both have internal check valves, would work.
----if the check valve on the failed pump still remained functional.
This assumes you are running both full time. In which case you will not
actually be aware of the failure when it occurs.
Next idea is a pressure switch activated back up pump (that would have
to
reset after each startup to take it off line).
Too many gremlins. Too bad the engine is at the high spot, out of the
reach
of good old gravity.
-BB, one precarious pump. do not archive
On 24, May 2006, at 1:37 PM, Mnflyer wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mnflyer" <gbsb2002@yahoo.com>
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> I am curious, I fully ubderstand the desire for dual pumps in the
> event that one pump fails, but why you anyone install a paralle sytem,
> there by doubleing the chances for failure, double the fuel lines and
> check valve that are prone to failure generally in the open postion?
> A dual series system only requires an electric fuel pump with and out
> put check valve a single fuel line to the pulse pump and then on to
> the carbs.
>
> --------
> GB
> MNFlyer
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36241#36241
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| Subject: | How I spent my MV vacation - worked on fuel tank |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
Hello list,
Instead of driving to MV as I hoped, I stayed closer to home. Visited my daughter
at Eglin AFB and worked my fuel tank.
Special thanks to John & Brother Jim Hauck. This is pretty much their proven design
and my attempt to benefit from their experience. Steven Green also had
some great suggestions and was helpful.
The tank is made from 5052 - h32 .063" (1/16")Aluminum. Couldn't get any .050
around here without paying some really high freight charges. More than the cost
of the sheet. Anyway, my chances of successful welds increase with the slightly
thicker material.
I had a close friend that deals daily with an excellent fab shop brake the metal
for me. He won't tell me how much it cost to cut and brake. He wanted to do
this for me for the few favors and projects I helped him on. Kindness returned
is a good feeling.
If you notice, there are only vertical seams and seams on the top. I haven't decided
on the extent I will rivet. Each vertical seam can be welded on the inside
and outside. May only use rivets to the attach the top to the long baffle
down the center and then weld over them.
Thought some may find pictures useful - always a lot of discussion on tanks.
There are easier ways to do this. I struggled to make the baffles fit with a
hand made brake. After I bent the last one, the light went off! If the baffles
were made in three pieces - 1) baffle wall, 2) bottom angle, 3) top angle
- the pieces could be clamped in place and then riveted together to get the perfect
fit. ARGHHH!
Next, run some practice beads to get my rythym going good. Then clean and weld.
Install filler neck, high vent and low outlet fittings.
Hope to be running with the big dogs soon. Just a lot of little steps to go.
Please be safe. Make good decisions early. Keep the dominoes far apart. Voice
of experience. It can cost so much when they start to fall.
If you want to view my web page for some of my other challenges:
Hope this comes out OK. Not much experience with new format.
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Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C
"Using my Repairman Certificate"
St. Francisville, LA
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
Greetings everyone,
I'm happy to be home safe, Monday was a terrible day at Grants, and the
winds were gusting to 51 mph.
I made a small webpage with my trip log and a few pictures. Don't get
analytical with the figures because I probably wrote down something wrong.
http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/mv/
Regards,
Will Uribe
FireStar II N4GU
El Paso, TX
http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/
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| Subject: | Re: home from MV |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Heck of a trip, Will. I think you had more adventures than any of us. It's
a good thing you're a conservative pilot. Lar.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: home from MV
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
>
> Greetings everyone,
> I'm happy to be home safe, Monday was a terrible day at Grants, and the
> winds were gusting to 51 mph.
>
> I made a small webpage with my trip log and a few pictures. Don't get
> analytical with the figures because I probably wrote down something wrong.
> http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/mv/
>
> Regards,
> Will Uribe
> FireStar II N4GU
> El Paso, TX
> http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: home from MV |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Great web page, good decisions. Thanks
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Guillermo Uribe wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
>
> Greetings everyone,
> I'm happy to be home safe, Monday was a terrible day at Grants, and the
> winds were gusting to 51 mph.
>
> I made a small webpage with my trip log and a few pictures. Don't get
> analytical with the figures because I probably wrote down something wrong.
> http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/mv/
>
> Regards,
> Will Uribe
> FireStar II N4GU
> El Paso, TX
> http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Muley Mesa by Road |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
Heck, it's right there in the subject line!! At 83, sharpness is what
our kitchen knives ain'y got. thanks anyway.
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: Electric fuel pump installation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
I am still confused why do you guys think it is so important to have a check
valve in your little planes fuel system? are you putting so much G-Force on
it that you cant keep fuel to the carb I have that problem once in a while but
I will someday install a electric fuel pump so I can force fuel to the carb
and I wont keep having almost engine outs Buzzing others that enjoy it as much
as I enjoy doing it
Ellery in Maine
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