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1. 03:23 AM - Re: Monument Valley Test (pat ladd)
2. 03:56 AM - Re: Re: Electric fuel pump installation (Denny Rowe)
3. 05:57 AM - Re: Monument Valley Test (Larry Bourne)
4. 09:47 AM - Re: home from MV (Guillermo Uribe)
5. 12:05 PM - Re: home from MV (David Key)
6. 01:29 PM - Fw: SEE WHY BOEING LOST OUT TO AIRBUS (pat ladd)
7. 03:10 PM - Re: Fw: SEE WHY BOEING LOST OUT TO AIRBUS (Richard Pike)
8. 04:36 PM - Re: How I spent my MV vacation - worked on fuel tank (DAquaNut@aol.com)
9. 05:21 PM - Re: How I spent my MV vacation - worked on fuel tank (John Bickham)
10. 06:16 PM - Nose Repairs Needed (John Murr)
11. 07:57 PM - Re: Re: How I spent my MV vacation - worked on fuel tank (DAquaNut@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley Test |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Nice pics, Lar.
Next year I hope.
Cheers
Pat
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Electric fuel pump installation |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
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> I am still confused why do you guys think it is so important to have a
> check
> valve in your little planes fuel system? >
> Ellery in Maine
>
> do not archive
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>
Ellery,
I installed a check valve in parrellel with my Facet pump to make certain
the fuel flow was unrestricted when the Facet is off.
My Facet is in series with my Mikuni impulse pump and I only use it in the
pattern, just like in a Piper Cherokee.
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley Test |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Thanks, Pat. I'll hold you to that, and look forward to meeting you there.
Lar. Do not Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:19 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Test
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
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> Nice pics, Lar.
>
> Next year I hope.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
> do not archive
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> --
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
Thanks, I thought I was hot stuff when I landed at MV but when I was told
about "The Wandering Wench" in her 1984 Maxair, 503 powered, open cockpit,
Drifter flying in from Oregon kind of stole my thunder. ;-)
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1386557
I think she had the most adventures. She is planning a trip to Sun n' Fun in
a couple of years and would like anyone on her flight path to accompany her
as far as they can. She invited me to fly with her all the way to Florida.
I am seriously considering it.
Regards,
Will Uribe
FireStar II N4GU
El Paso, TX
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bourne
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: home from MV
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Heck of a trip, Will. I think you had more adventures than any of us. It's
a good thing you're a conservative pilot. Lar.
Do not Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: home from MV
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
>
> Greetings everyone,
> I'm happy to be home safe, Monday was a terrible day at Grants, and the
> winds were gusting to 51 mph.
>
> I made a small webpage with my trip log and a few pictures. Don't get
> analytical with the figures because I probably wrote down something wrong.
> http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/mv/
>
> Regards,
> Will Uribe
> FireStar II N4GU
> El Paso, TX
> http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/
>
> do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
I was planning on Sun-n-Fun next year. I have an xtra that should be done in
Sept. I live on an airport on the way to Sun-n-Fun for you. You can pit here
at (F69) in Dallas.
>From: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kolb-List: home from MV
>Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 10:45:24 -0600
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
>
>Thanks, I thought I was hot stuff when I landed at MV but when I was told
>about "The Wandering Wench" in her 1984 Maxair, 503 powered, open cockpit,
>Drifter flying in from Oregon kind of stole my thunder. ;-)
>http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1386557
>I think she had the most adventures. She is planning a trip to Sun n' Fun
>in
>a couple of years and would like anyone on her flight path to accompany her
>as far as they can. She invited me to fly with her all the way to Florida.
>I am seriously considering it.
>
>Regards,
>Will Uribe
>FireStar II N4GU
>El Paso, TX
>http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bourne
>Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:01 PM
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: home from MV
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
>Heck of a trip, Will. I think you had more adventures than any of us.
>It's
>
>a good thing you're a conservative pilot. Lar.
>Do not Archive.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 4:39 PM
>Subject: RE: Kolb-List: home from MV
>
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> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
> >
> > Greetings everyone,
> > I'm happy to be home safe, Monday was a terrible day at Grants, and the
> > winds were gusting to 51 mph.
> >
> > I made a small webpage with my trip log and a few pictures. Don't get
> > analytical with the figures because I probably wrote down something
>wrong.
> > http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/mv/
> >
> > Regards,
> > Will Uribe
> > FireStar II N4GU
> > El Paso, TX
> > http://home.elp.rr.com/youngeagle/
> >
> > do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Fw: SEE WHY BOEING LOST OUT TO AIRBUS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Pat Ladd
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 5:22 AM
Subject: Fwd: SEE WHY BOEING LOST OUT TO AIRBUS
Hope you enjoy this.
cheers
Pat
Archive/ I don`t know.......
Begin forwarded message:
See why Boeing lost out to Airbus...
?=20
ANY QUESTIONS????
?=20
From: "carter" <lloypat@comcast.net>
Date: May 19, 2006 11:33:02 AM PDT
To: "Williard Karen Dick" <skyking410@bellsouth.net>, "victof" =
<victof@tampabay.rr.com>, "Travis Alan Jill" <GlaciaGlaze@yahoo.com>, =
"Stoddard Mike" <Numbcru695@aol.com>, "Sears Pat Curt" <C29026@aol.com>, =
"Moran Fran Ed" <Edfranmo@aol.com>, <Modobbs123@aol.com>, =
<mikiejw@comcast.net>, "Lorrie C Witt" <loesca@juno.com>, "Klingler =
Sandy Ray" <rekatsrq@comcast.net>, "HG BUD BRECHT" <n40qb@verizon.net>, =
"Donovan Sandra Neil" <servd@aol.com>, "Donnelly Maryln Jerry" =
<Jermardon@aol.com>, "Davis Lucky Bob" <RDavisSS@aol.com>, "Darsow =
Alison Len" <Alilendars@aol.com>, "Caswell Madaline" =
<MAUITUTU@WEBTV.NET>, "Carter Susan" <drsusan@opexonline.com>, "Carter =
Larry" <Desertlc@aol.com>, "Cammie Adams" <riv1991@comcast.net>, "Bunks =
Nan" <Dublbunks@webtv.net>, <Billieduval@aol.com>, "Bill Habbyshaw" =
<habby2@mac.com>, "alicek" <alicek@toast.net>, "Anderson Jon" =
<jon.anderson@alcan.com>, "Alan Carter" <alan@carterassociates.org>
Subject: Fw: SEE WHY BOEING LOST OUT TO AIRBUS
?
See why Boeing lost out to Airbus...
??=20
ANY QUESTIONS????
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Kaye Wade
Stuntwoman-Actress,?Vocalist & Bandleader?
Kaye Wade's Riverboat Ramblers,?
The Tinsel Town Ten Minus - 3,?
Jazz Holiday Band @ Sardo's, Burbank
Former San Fernando Valley Banjo Bnd
Now-Jazz'n Banjos,??and? a Reflexologist
PO Box 1068 Studio City? CA. 91614-1068
Kaye@KayeWade.com
http://www.KayeWade.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: SEE WHY BOEING LOST OUT TO AIRBUS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Somethings missing...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
pat ladd wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Pat Ladd
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 5:22 AM
> Subject: Fwd: SEE WHY BOEING LOST OUT TO AIRBUS
>
> Hope you enjoy this.
> cheers
>
> Pat
>
> Archive/ I don`t know.......
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
> See why Boeing lost out to Airbus...
>
>
> ?=20
> ANY QUESTIONS????
>
>
> ?=20
>
>
> From: "carter" <lloypat@comcast.net>
> Date: May 19, 2006 11:33:02 AM PDT
> To: "Williard Karen Dick" <skyking410@bellsouth.net>, "victof" =
> <victof@tampabay.rr.com>, "Travis Alan Jill" <GlaciaGlaze@yahoo.com>, =
> "Stoddard Mike" <Numbcru695@aol.com>, "Sears Pat Curt" <C29026@aol.com>, =
> "Moran Fran Ed" <Edfranmo@aol.com>, <Modobbs123@aol.com>, =
> <mikiejw@comcast.net>, "Lorrie C Witt" <loesca@juno.com>, "Klingler =
> Sandy Ray" <rekatsrq@comcast.net>, "HG BUD BRECHT" <n40qb@verizon.net>, =
> "Donovan Sandra Neil" <servd@aol.com>, "Donnelly Maryln Jerry" =
> <Jermardon@aol.com>, "Davis Lucky Bob" <RDavisSS@aol.com>, "Darsow =
> Alison Len" <Alilendars@aol.com>, "Caswell Madaline" =
> <MAUITUTU@WEBTV.NET>, "Carter Susan" <drsusan@opexonline.com>, "Carter =
> Larry" <Desertlc@aol.com>, "Cammie Adams" <riv1991@comcast.net>, "Bunks =
> Nan" <Dublbunks@webtv.net>, <Billieduval@aol.com>, "Bill Habbyshaw" =
> <habby2@mac.com>, "alicek" <alicek@toast.net>, "Anderson Jon" =
> <jon.anderson@alcan.com>, "Alan Carter" <alan@carterassociates.org>
> Subject: Fw: SEE WHY BOEING LOST OUT TO AIRBUS
>
>
> ?
> See why Boeing lost out to Airbus...
>
>
> ??=20
> ANY QUESTIONS????
>
> ?
>
>
> ------
> Kaye Wade
> Stuntwoman-Actress,?Vocalist & Bandleader?
> Kaye Wade's Riverboat Ramblers,?
> The Tinsel Town Ten Minus - 3,?
> Jazz Holiday Band @ Sardo's, Burbank
> Former San Fernando Valley Banjo Bnd
> Now-Jazz'n Banjos,??and? a Reflexologist
>
>
> PO Box 1068 Studio City? CA. 91614-1068
> Kaye@KayeWade.com
> http://www.KayeWade.com
>
>
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> 18/05/2006
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| Subject: | Re: How I spent my MV vacation - worked on fuel tank |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 5/24/2006 4:04:47 P.M. Central Standard Time,
gearbender@bellsouth.net writes:
If you notice, there are only vertical seams and seams on the top. I
haven't decided on the extent I will rivet. Each vertical seam can be welded
on
the inside and outside. May only use rivets to the attach the top to the long
baffle down the center and then weld over them.
John,
If you drill some 3/8" -- 1/2 ' holes in the top skin you can plug weld
them to the center baffle. This would be stronger than trying to rivet the top
to the baffle. Also if you dont get the steel mandrel out of the pop rivet
you will introduce steel into your aluminum weld ,when you try to weld over it
,which is not a good thing. The industry standard for fitting up an aluminum
gas tank is a corner to corner weld, which, when welded with the proper
heat,using the tig method will leave a uniform penetration which will look like
it has a bead on the inside. Good luck.
Ed Diebel
Do Not Archieve
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| Subject: | Re: How I spent my MV vacation - worked on fuel tank |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
Hey Ed,
I was going to use aluminum rivets with aluminum mandrels (5052) and weld over
these. I could see your suggestion working also. Do you think the hole has
to be 3/8" - 1/2". Seems like a 1/4" would work. I know several people have
had success with weld over aluminum rivets method. I can see that if the rivet
fails or pulls through the two pieces would seperate. The head of the rivet
is only fused to the top plate.
More to ponder.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C
"Using my Repairman Certificate"
St. Francisville, LA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36476#36476
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| Subject: | Nose Repairs Needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Murr" <jdm@wideworld.net>
Question for the group. I cracked the gel coat and..... er.... ah.... well,
a little more on a nose up landing. It repairable but I can't tell if it's
polyester or epoxy. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance!
John Murr
Original Firestar
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| Subject: | Re: How I spent my MV vacation - worked on fuel tank |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 5/25/2006 7:22:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,
gearbender@bellsouth.net writes:
Hey Ed,
I was going to use aluminum rivets with aluminum mandrels (5052) and weld
over these. I could see your suggestion working also. Do you think the hole
has to be 3/8" - 1/2". Seems like a 1/4" would work. I know several people
have had success with weld over aluminum rivets method. I can see that if
the rivet fails or pulls through the two pieces would seperate. The head of
the rivet is only fused to the top plate.
More to ponder.
John,
You might be able to get by with a 1/4 " hole, but I think it is easier
if you have the hole big enough that you can get your tungsten in close enough
to the baffle ,that you can concentrate the heat on it so it burns into it
before the upper skin starts to melt, and you fill op the hole before you burn
into the baffle. I suggest a mock up trial run . Be sure you have a
method to clamp the upper skin down in the vicinity of the hole you are welding.
Chances are the upper skin will want to pull away from the baffle. If you do
not burn into the baffle when you fill the hole, the tank will not leak, but
the baffle will not be secure.
I dont know if you remember me but I met you at the Allen Parrish
Fly-in about 3 years ago. Good luck! Let me know how it goes.
Ed Diebel ( Houston) Do Not Archieve
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