Kolb-List Digest Archive

Fri 05/26/06


Total Messages Posted: 18



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:10 AM - Re: Nose Repairs Needed (John Bickham)
     2. 05:15 AM - regarding twin engine Kolb Flyers .... (Scott Perkins)
     3. 05:24 AM - Re: Nose Repairs Needed (Richard Girard)
     4. 05:37 AM - Re: Nose Repairs Needed (planecrazzzy)
     5. 07:36 AM - Re: Electric fuel pump installation (Ralph Hoover)
     6. 07:47 AM - Re: Electric fuel pump installation (Ralph Hoover)
     7. 09:57 AM - Re: Nose Repairs Needed (John Murr)
     8. 09:57 AM - Re: Re: Nose Repairs Needed (John Murr)
     9. 09:57 AM - Re: Re: Nose Repairs Needed (John Murr)
    10. 10:12 AM - Re: Firestar II For Sale (George Bass)
    11. 12:08 PM - Re: Re: bent ultrastar (pollus)
    12. 01:03 PM - Anyone got feedback on a Mark 111 Extra with a Jabriu 2200cc engine (Frank Ducker)
    13. 02:02 PM - Re: Anyone got feedback on a Mark 111 Extra with a Jabriu 2200cc engine (Denny Rowe)
    14. 03:27 PM - Re: Firestar II For Sale (Earl & Mim Zimmerman)
    15. 04:30 PM - Re: Anyone got feedback on a Mark 111 Extra with a Jabriu 2200cc e... (HShack@aol.com)
    16. 06:12 PM - Re: Nose Repairs Needed (planecrazzzy)
    17. 06:44 PM - 503 Running Cold (Tom463@aol.com)
    18. 08:32 PM - Re: 503 Running Cold (HShack@AOL.COM)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:10:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Nose Repairs Needed
    From: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net> Hey John M. I can help a little on this. Just went through the same thing. I had a freind who helped me. Some may know him from MV 2004 - Bruce Williams (Kitfox). He loves to play with fiberglass. He has built a couple of glass planes. He basically worked on this while I worked on some other stuff. This is what I ordered from Aircraft Spruce. Not sure if you are talking about just a few small cracks or worse. I deformed mine to where it lost it's original shape. If your job is smaller, may not need all this. We had some material left over. It wasn't cheap and it was a lot of labor (sanding). Think I spent about $100.00 plus sandpaper. New cone was over $400. Need to epoxy prime, sand smooth to fill and blend and if necessary prime one more time before final finish coats. 09-00100 DACRON FABRC 1.8 OZ X 64" #611 (release fabric) 4533-60 S-GLASS-STYLE 4533 5.8 OZ. 60" (Bi-directional) 01-07355 VINYL ESTER 411-350PA 1G KIT If you need more help, Bruce would be the one to really talk to. Contact me off-list. Check the before and after pictures to see what I was up against. Hope this was helpful. Got to remember to put thee attactments in backwards order! -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C &quot;Using my Repairman Certificate&quot; St. Francisville, LA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36530#36530 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_repairs007_408.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/nose_cone_177.jpg


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    Time: 05:15:28 AM PST US
    From: Scott Perkins <2scott@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: regarding twin engine Kolb Flyers ....
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Scott Perkins <2scott@bellsouth.net> Finding out about the new Ultrastar and twin-engine-Flyer yahoo group got me to thinking about the Kolb Flyer again. The europeans have been perfecting the power plants for the backpack powered paragliders for over ten years now and recently I saw a 14-HP 4-stroke with electric starter and reduction drive that weighed 45 pounds ! Two of them would be the CATS MEOW on the Kolb Flyer..... Twin redundant 4-stroke engines w/eletric start..... Just like the AIR CAM ! ( except FAR 103 legal ! ) Does anyone know of the existence of any Flyers anywhere ? here is the new Yahoo Group for the out-of-date hi-boom Kolbs. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KolbUltrastar/ here are 4 pages of Ultrastar Thumbnails http://www.vula2.org/VULA5Images/Land_Planes/Ultrastar/Index.html Twin Engine Flyer photos http://vula2.org/images/land_planes/Kolb-Flyer-best/ Scott


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    Time: 05:24:42 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Nose Repairs Needed
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com> John, The rule is that you can put epoxy over polyester, but not the other way around. Prep the area with 220 grit sandpaper tapering out 2" either side of the crack, use peel ply over the patch so it won't lift the edges and also to save a lot of time filling the weave for finish. On 5/25/06, John Murr <jdm@wideworld.net> wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Murr" <jdm@wideworld.net> > > Question for the group. I cracked the gel coat and..... er.... ah.... > well, > a little more on a nose up landing. It repairable but I can't tell if > it's > polyester or epoxy. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance= ! > > John Murr > > Original Firestar > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > --=20 Rick Girard "Pining for a home on the Range"


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    Time: 05:37:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Nose Repairs Needed
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> I notice that it had a nose skid "hoop" on it.... was it just too small ? Mines been called a Monster but it works like it should... and until I'm satisfied that I don't need it any more....It'll stay on... The nose is off the ground 5" when the hoop touches... http://wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=174 Gotta Fly... Mike in MN . . . . -------- . . . . .Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36553#36553


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    Time: 07:36:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Electric fuel pump installation
    From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@columbus.rr.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com> For your reading pleasure. Not all Facet pumps are created equal! FACET MIN - MAX ANTIPART SHUTOFF POSITIVE MIN DRY FITTING QUIET CHECK SIPHON NO. PRESSURE GPH LEAD LIFT INCHES SIZE VALVE VALVE VALVE 40104 2 - 4 28 12 1/8-27 INT NO NO NO 40105 3 - 4.5 34 12 1/8-27 INT NO NO NO 40106 4.5 - 7 34 12 1/8-27 INT NO NO NO 40107 7 - 10 50 12 1/8-27 INT NO NO NO 40108 4.5 - 6 32 .25 BLADE 12 3/8 FLARE NO NO NO 40109 4.5 - 9 32 24 3/8-18 INT NO YES NO See Facet pdf file at Facet site for details. I was under the impression that the 40-105 did have a check valve. It has a buldge on the intake. Oh well, Ohio Ralph Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36583#36583


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    Time: 07:47:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Electric fuel pump installation
    From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@columbus.rr.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com> I forgot in my earlier response to give this site as good info for our Facet pumps. Far more than I had imagined for thoses of you using Facet pumps that thought they had anti-siphoning or checkvalves, etc. One size does not fit all. Now my instructor tells me he will not even consider flying my Kolb if I do not install filter BEFORE pump. Whats a guy to do? Haa! Ha! So amny opininons, so little time. Guess thats why they call it experimental! http://www.facet-purolator.com/mcl/pages/frame_src/ttips_frmsrc.html Ohio Ralph Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36590#36590


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    Time: 09:57:00 AM PST US
    From: "John Murr" <jdm@wideworld.net>
    Subject: Re: Nose Repairs Needed
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Murr" <jdm@wideworld.net> Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:23 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Nose Repairs Needed > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com> > > John, The rule is that you can put epoxy over polyester, but not the other > way around. Prep the area with 220 grit sandpaper tapering out 2" either > side of the crack, use peel ply over the patch so it won't lift the edges > and also to save a lot of time filling the weave for finish. > > On 5/25/06, John Murr <jdm@wideworld.net> wrote: >> >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Murr" <jdm@wideworld.net> >> >> Question for the group. I cracked the gel coat and..... er.... ah.... >> well, >> a little more on a nose up landing. It repairable but I can't tell if >> it's >> polyester or epoxy. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in >> advance= > ! >> >> John Murr >> >> Original Firestar >> >> >> >> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > --=20 > Rick Girard > "Pining for a home on the Range" > > >


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    Time: 09:57:00 AM PST US
    From: "John Murr" <jdm@wideworld.net>
    Subject: Re: Nose Repairs Needed
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Murr" <jdm@wideworld.net> I don't have a hoop. You must have me confused with someone else. I picture of my plane is on Frappr (South Central PA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:36 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Nose Repairs Needed > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> > > I notice that it had a nose skid "hoop" on it.... > was it just too small ? > > Mines been called a Monster but it works like it should... and until I'm > satisfied that I don't need it any more....It'll stay on... > > The nose is off the ground 5" when the hoop touches... > > http://wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=174 > > Gotta Fly... > Mike in MN > . > . > . > . > > -------- > . > . > . > . > .Do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36553#36553 > > >


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    Time: 09:57:01 AM PST US
    From: "John Murr" <jdm@wideworld.net>
    Subject: Re: Nose Repairs Needed
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Murr" <jdm@wideworld.net> thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 3:06 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Nose Repairs Needed > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net> > > Hey John M. > > I can help a little on this. Just went through the same thing. I had a > freind who helped me. Some may know him from MV 2004 - Bruce Williams > (Kitfox). He loves to play with fiberglass. He has built a couple of > glass planes. He basically worked on this while I worked on some other > stuff. > > This is what I ordered from Aircraft Spruce. Not sure if you are talking > about just a few small cracks or worse. I deformed mine to where it lost > it's original shape. If your job is smaller, may not need all this. We > had some material left over. It wasn't cheap and it was a lot of labor > (sanding). Think I spent about $100.00 plus sandpaper. New cone was over > $400. > > Need to epoxy prime, sand smooth to fill and blend and if necessary prime > one more time before final finish coats. > > 09-00100 DACRON FABRC 1.8 OZ X 64" #611 (release fabric) > > 4533-60 S-GLASS-STYLE 4533 5.8 OZ. 60" (Bi-directional) > > 01-07355 VINYL ESTER 411-350PA 1G KIT > > > If you need more help, Bruce would be the one to really talk to. Contact > me off-list. > > Check the before and after pictures to see what I was up against. Hope > this was helpful. Got to remember to put thee attactments in backwards > order! > > -------- > Thanks too much, > > John Bickham > Mark III-C > &quot;Using my Repairman Certificate&quot; > St. Francisville, LA > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36530#36530 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_repairs007_408.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/nose_cone_177.jpg > > >


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    Time: 10:12:29 AM PST US
    From: "George Bass" <gtb@commspeed.net>
    Subject: Re: Firestar II For Sale
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Bass" <gtb@commspeed.net> Hope this helps someone get into the air, in a KOLB. GTB For Sale Kolb Firestar II. Built in 1995, 430 hours on airframe & the 447 Rotax engine. Excellent condition, but, engine is past recommended OH time. Flies great. This is a great deal, 'cause I need money to finish a=20 Zenair project. Reduced..... $7000 agustafson@chartermi.net Upper Michigan Picture at: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...Kolb/E-taxi.jpg Last edited by agus on 04-20-2006 at 09:17 PM=20


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    Time: 12:08:37 PM PST US
    From: pollus <pollus@fornerod.nl>
    Subject: Re: bent ultrastar
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: pollus <pollus@fornerod.nl> Yep. Chutes are compulsory for ultralights in Germany. Few years ago they raised the MTOW from 450 to 472,5 kg to compensate for the weight of the chute. (Makes you wonder if they'll ever compensate for the weight of the average German.) Pollus Op 24-mei-2006, om 12:24 heeft pat ladd het volgende geschreven: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> > > [...] > > Are chutes compulsory in the US?. I think they are in Germany but > few people > in the UK fit them, mainly because of the weight. > > Cheers > > Pat > > do not archive


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    Time: 01:03:10 PM PST US
    From: "Frank Ducker" <frankd@foundrynet.com>
    Subject: Anyone got feedback on a Mark 111 Extra with a Jabriu 2200cc
    engine --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Ducker" <frankd@foundrynet.com> Greetings, I'm looking for feedback on using a Jabriu 2200cc (85hp) on the Mark111 x. Its time to get serious about picking an engine and I know its designed for the Rotax but I'm looking at all options. Also, how good is the Rotax 912 S 100HP unit?? Ease of install, reliability, positives, negatives on both would be great info. I want to be able to carry up to 230lb passengers and possibly put it on floats. Thanks for your feedback. FrankD


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    Time: 02:02:16 PM PST US
    From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Anyone got feedback on a Mark 111 Extra with a Jabriu 2200cc
    engine --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net> Frank, If you plan on floats you'll want the 912, more thrust due to the bigger slower prop. Plenty of 912Ss on Mk-3s with happy owners, but the 912UL is also a crowd pleaser. The newer Jab 2200 perform fine on the Mk-3 with 62 and 64 inch props but the Rotax swinging 68 - 72 inch blades will give a good bit more take off and climb performance. Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ducker" <frankd@foundrynet.com> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:01 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Anyone got feedback on a Mark 111 Extra with a Jabriu 2200cc engine > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Ducker" <frankd@foundrynet.com> > > Greetings, > > I'm looking for feedback on using a Jabriu 2200cc (85hp) on the Mark111 x. > > Its time to get serious about picking an engine and I know its designed > for > the Rotax but I'm looking at all options. > > Also, how good is the Rotax 912 S 100HP unit?? > > Ease of install, reliability, positives, negatives on both would be great > info. > > I want to be able to carry up to 230lb passengers and possibly put it on > floats. > > Thanks for your feedback. > > FrankD > > > -- > >


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    Time: 03:27:56 PM PST US
    From: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
    Subject: Re: Firestar II For Sale
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com> George Bass wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Bass" <gtb@commspeed.net> > > Hope this helps someone get into the air, in a KOLB. > GTB > > For Sale Kolb Firestar II. Built in 1995, 430 hours on > > airframe & the 447 Rotax engine. Excellent condition, > > but, engine is past recommended OH time. Flies great. > > This is a great deal, 'cause I need money to finish a=20 > > Zenair project. Reduced..... $7000 > > > agustafson@chartermi.net Upper Michigan > > > Picture at: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...Kolb/E-taxi.jpg > > > Last edited by agus on 04-20-2006 at 09:17 PM=20 George, I couldn't find the picture?? ~ Earl


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    Time: 04:30:23 PM PST US
    From: HShack@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Anyone got feedback on a Mark 111 Extra with a Jabriu 2200cc
    e... --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com In a message dated 5/26/2006 4:03:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, frankd@foundrynet.com writes: Also, how good is the Rotax 912 S 100HP unit?? Ease of install, reliability, positives, negatives on both would be great info. I want to be able to carry up to 230lb passengers and possibly put it on floats. Floats?? No doubt, use the 912S. Check out www.trentonflyers.com then click on "members" then "Robert Broadwell" if you want to see a nice MkIII with 912S. Includes a very good write=up. Howard Shackleford FS II SC


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    Time: 06:12:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Nose Repairs Needed
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> I was looking at the "BEFORE" picture......It has a "hoop" but yet the nose was damaged.... ( Bickham's ) Gotta Fly... Mike / N381PM -------- . . . . .Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36738#36738


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    Time: 06:44:35 PM PST US
    From: Tom463@aol.com
    Subject: 503 Running Cold
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Tom463@aol.com I have a Rotax 503 DCDI, with oil injection, on a Firestar II. The engine is about 50 hours out from a total rebuild and has been performing flawlessly, except during the past 5 or 6 hours, it has started running cold. The EGT's stay around 9 and 10 on the gauges at 5000 RPM, which is where I regularly cruise. My one CHT gauge used to read around 2.5, but lately it is getting down to 1.5 or less. I suspected a problem with the gauge; however, when I throttle back to idle for landing, it will climb back up to between 2 and 2.5, by the time I'm at a full stop on the ground. The readings on the EGT's increase and decrease in conjunction with the RPM's of the engine. The engine doesn't seem to perform or sound any differently. The Tiny Tach says my max RPM on take-off is 6200 on a 3 blade Warp Drive. I'm no mechanic. Any suggestions? _Tom463@aol.com_ (mailto:Tom463@aol.com) Do not archive


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    From: HShack@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: 503 Running Cold
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com In a message dated 5/26/2006 9:45:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, Tom463@aol.com writes: I suspected a problem with the gauge; however, when I throttle back to idle for landing, it will climb back up to between 2 and 2.5, by the time I'm at a full stop on the ground. The readings on the EGT's increase and decrease in conjunction with the RPM's of the engine. The engine doesn't seem to perform or sound any differently. The Tiny Tach says my max RPM on take-off is 6200 on a 3 blade Warp Drive. I'm no mechanic. Any suggestions? My guess is that either your gage or sensor or wiring is wrong. Temps should be around 300 degrees or so; what's with the 1.5, 2.0, etc.? Can't think of anything that would actually make CHT's go down. I also think your max RPM on takeoff should be about 200 rpm higher; take about 1 degree pitch out of your prop. Howard Shackleford FS II SC




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