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1. 05:19 AM - Re: Re: Nose Repairs Needed (Chris Mallory)
2. 06:55 AM - Re: Nose Repairs Needed (John Bickham)
3. 07:40 AM - Kolb Mark III (Bruce Chaisson)
4. 08:47 AM - Re: Nose Repairs Needed (planecrazzzy)
5. 08:50 AM - Re: Nose Repairs Needed (planecrazzzy)
6. 08:54 AM - Re: Kolb Mark III (robert bean)
7. 09:07 AM - Re: Kolb Mark III (Jack B. Hart)
8. 11:52 AM - Re: Kolb Mark III (David Key)
9. 01:37 PM - [ Ellery Weld ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
10. 03:33 PM - Re: Kolb Mark III (Richard Pike)
11. 07:36 PM - Hard to turn Mark III (Bruce Chaisson)
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Repairs Needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
That's because his "hoop" wasn't the same diameter as a 55 gal. oil drum.
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> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
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> I was looking at the "BEFORE" picture......It has a "hoop" but yet the
> nose was damaged.... ( Bickham's )
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> Gotta Fly...
> Mike / N381PM
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Repairs Needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
Just in case there is some confusion. I think we are talking about two different
incidents. The damage to my nose cone (before & after pics) was the result
of an engine out, off-field landing in a hayfield. Due to bad pilot decision
making. It dropped in from 8 -10 feet. Not a simple nose over.
I was lucky nothing hurt me. First thing I checked for while the dust was settling
was if a broken piece of tubing was sticking in me somewhere. No hoop would
have minimized the damage in my case. I concede that my situation was my
own fault. However, engine outs are part of the business. I'm not sure I would
want that long piece of tubing down there aimed at my nasal cavity - like a
pungee stick.
Not being critical of the large hoop idea. Think it may be good for taxi test.
Just sharing my perspective and limited bad experience. To each his own.
Be safe. It just takes a few small wrong decisions to put you in a terrible spot.
The first mistake is usually "nothing like that will ever happen to me".
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Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C
"Using my Repairman Certificate"
St. Francisville, LA
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bruce Chaisson <bruce20@bellsouth.net>
Has anyone had with the Mark III Classic turning to the right? Left turns
seem normal, but try to turn back right from a left turn almost requires two
hands. From level flight not to bad, but still harder than left turn. On
ground everything feels and looks normal. Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Repairs Needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com wrote:
> That's because his "hoop" wasn't the same diameter as a 55 gal. oil drum.
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My Hoop isn't that big , But THANKS for being a "SMART" Azz
Gotta go now.....
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Repairs Needed |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
John Bickham wrote:
> Just in case there is some confusion. I think we are talking about two different
incidents. The damage to my nose cone (before & after pics) was the result
of an engine out, off-field landing in a hayfield. Due to bad pilot decision
making. It dropped in from 8 -10 feet. Not a simple nose over.
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Oouch ! I hope that was all that was damaged.... Well, it probly bent the
gear too...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
PS Yesterday was the first day that I could fly my plane without a coat...
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Are you trimmed out for zero pressure, straight and level?
I also had a heavier left wing (which can be partially attributable
to sitting on that side) until I stuck a trim tab on my right aileron.
Even though it flies properly now I still consider it a stopgap
measure. My first attempt at correction will be to tweak the
tailfeathers
a little to induce some right roll.
After that I'm going to drill new holes in my spar attach tabs above the
originals to decrease the angle of incidence. If I still need
any lift differential I'll make the hole centers slightly different to
decrease
the right wing a little more than the left.
BTW, on my MkIIIc, largely due to having considerably less hp than
a 912 version, I have no nose over problems at full throttle (solo)
unless the wheels are chocked. According to my prop calc
program I'm getting 58 hp during lift off and early climb/ 4700 rpm
At WOT/level flight I read about 5100 rpm which translates to about
62 hp. I could get a little more out of it with a finer pitch but
I like the economy range as it is.
-BB, one liter suzuki, 65" powerfin, 45+ hours.
tomorrow looks like a good day here in the NE.
On 27, May 2006, at 10:38 AM, Bruce Chaisson wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bruce Chaisson <bruce20@bellsouth.net>
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> Has anyone had with the Mark III Classic turning to the right? Left
> turns
> seem normal, but try to turn back right from a left turn almost
> requires two
> hands. From level flight not to bad, but still harder than left turn.
> On
> ground everything feels and looks normal. Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
At 09:38 AM 5/27/06 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bruce Chaisson <bruce20@bellsouth.net>
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> Has anyone had (trouble?) with the Mark III Classic turning to the right? Left
turns
>seem normal, but try to turn back right from a left turn almost requires two
>hands. From level flight not to bad, but still harder than left turn. On
>ground everything feels and looks normal. Thanks
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Bruce,
Do you have a ball slip indicator? It sounds like you could have a combined
yaw and Power-Factor problem. If the propeller is catching more air on the
up swing as apposed to the down swing during cruise attitude you have a
P-Factor problem. You should solve this problem first and then attack the
yaw problem with a tab on the rudder.
An explanation of how to correct P-Factor can be found on:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly56.html
In my case with the FireFly and the Victor 1+, I was able to correct the yaw
problem by rotating the drive reduction unit. But in your case, I believe
you will have to use a tab on the rudder.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
I had a problem with mine wanting to go left, as I remember I lowered the
left flap or raised the right flap a little I don't remember which and that
worked.
>From: Bruce Chaisson <bruce20@bellsouth.net>
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Mark III
>Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:38:54 -0500
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>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bruce Chaisson <bruce20@bellsouth.net>
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> Has anyone had with the Mark III Classic turning to the right? Left
>turns
>seem normal, but try to turn back right from a left turn almost requires
>two
>hands. From level flight not to bad, but still harder than left turn. On
>ground everything feels and looks normal. Thanks
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Kolb ailerons tend to be a bit on the heavy side anyway, here is a mod
that makes them much lighter.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg7.htm
Have flown it this way for years and love it. No loss of aileron authority.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Bruce Chaisson wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bruce Chaisson <bruce20@bellsouth.net>
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> Has anyone had with the Mark III Classic turning to the right? Left turns
> seem normal, but try to turn back right from a left turn almost requires two
> hands. From level flight not to bad, but still harder than left turn. On
> ground everything feels and looks normal. Thanks
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| Subject: | Hard to turn Mark III |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bruce Chaisson <bruce20@bellsouth.net>
Thanks to everyone for the input. Can't wait to try the remedies.
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