---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 05/28/06: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:25 AM - MV-2006 was a Success! (boyd) 2. 09:08 AM - joining the BigLar club (robert bean) 3. 09:34 AM - Pennzoil 2 stroke aircooled oil (ray anderson) 4. 09:42 AM - Re: joining the BigLar club (Larry Bourne) 5. 09:55 AM - Re: Pennzoil 2 stroke aircooled oil (Herb Gayheart) 6. 09:57 AM - Re: Pennzoil 2 stroke aircooled oil (HShack@aol.com) 7. 10:59 AM - Re: Pennzoil 2 stroke aircooled oil (Richard Pike) 8. 11:51 AM - Re: MV-2006 was a Success! (Guillermo Uribe) 9. 12:35 PM - Decoration Day---kinda long (Bob Noyer) 10. 04:31 PM - Re: Decoration Day---kinda long (Ralph Hoover) 11. 05:11 PM - The Back-Yard Flyer UL (ron wehba) 12. 05:31 PM - Re: joining the BigLar club (Max Stanford) 13. 05:44 PM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (Larry Bourne) 14. 05:51 PM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (robert bean) 15. 06:09 PM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (Kolbdriver) 16. 06:10 PM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (Bob Dalton) 17. 06:16 PM - Firestar skeleton for sale (Swampist@aol.com) 18. 06:24 PM - Re: joining the BigLar club (Denny Rowe) 19. 06:36 PM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (Denny Rowe) 20. 06:40 PM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (Beauford) 21. 06:50 PM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (ron wehba) 22. 07:20 PM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (Kolbdriver) 23. 07:35 PM - Re: Decoration Day---kinda long (Wayne T. McCullough) 24. 07:45 PM - Valley Engineering question (Richard Pike) 25. 08:04 PM - The Big Lar Club (Larry Bourne) 26. 08:04 PM - Re: Valley Engineering question (Larry Bourne) 27. 08:42 PM - Re: joining the BigLar club (Ed in JXN) 28. 08:44 PM - Re: The Back-Yard Flyer UL (Ed Chmielewski) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:28 AM PST US From: "boyd" Subject: Kolb-List: MV-2006 was a Success! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd" Dennis Kirby wrote Also Dave Rains (who, incidentally, instigated the first MV gathering 4 years ago), who spent most of his free time giving rides in his Cessna. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To set the record right..... Erich Weaver, myself and a few others started a trip in sept. 2002... we got part way through our trip and because of rain and thunderstorms, the trip was ended early.... that dec or there abouts. Erich emailed me through the list and asked if I would like to finish our trip. I decided on a date and the first kolb MV trip in 2003 was soon history. So my vote for the instigator of the kolb flyin at MV is Erich Weaver. First year attendees. Erich, Sonia and Kendal Weaver, mk III Boyd Young, mk III Jim Heffner, ff John Hauck, mkIII John Williamson, Kolbra Larry Borne, truck and camper Tom & Betty Kuffel, prospector Dave & Eve Pelletier, mkIII Dave Rains, Iggie and Dennis Kirby, cesna 175 To the best of my memory. Boyd Young Do not archeve ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:27 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Group, what a fine day! Off through the fading fog banks and into the sun. Attended a fly in breakfast at what we lowlanders call high altitude; 1600MSL 5 miles from home its time to gain a little altitude because the terrain near home is inhospitable. Engine does one of those "interruptions" Not good. Throttle back and review the situation. Engine still running. Looking for respectable landing spot. A little farther on I (finally) notice the temp gauge is pegged. hmmm A wheatfield on the edge of a nearby village has a trail through it. Can't be too picky. Circle and land with no damage. Hose came off at elbow out of head. Lousy design, I followed the redrive vendor's method. That will have to be modified. The engine must have run for at least 10 minutes with no water. The oil cooler I put on it must have kept things turning. A friendly local fetched me some water and a screwdriver, I stuck it back together, flew home. From the scratchy feel that wasn't there before I must have screwed up the rings and walls. It looks like BB may be walking for a spell. do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:01 AM PST US From: ray anderson Subject: Kolb-List: Pennzoil 2 stroke aircooled oil --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson Help, help, "Pennzoil 2 stroke air cooled engine oil" which I have always used has disappeared in this area. Is it off the market every where? If so what are most of you finding as a good substitute. They are pushing their 2 stroke outboard engine oil which is partially synthetic. Any one have any experience with it? Ray UltraStar TN Do no archive --------------------------------- Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:42:02 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Sorry to hear it, Bob, but nothing was hurt, so that at least is good news. Kind of a sorry club, ain't it ?? Lar. Do not Archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert bean" Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 9:07 AM Subject: Kolb-List: joining the BigLar club > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > > Group, what a fine day! Off through the fading fog banks and into > the sun. Attended a fly in breakfast at what we lowlanders call > high altitude; 1600MSL > 5 miles from home its time to gain a little altitude because the ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:55:19 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pennzoil 2 stroke aircooled oil From: Herb Gayheart --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart Ray Zip on over to your local Advanced Auto store and order it.. They will use your order to create a stocking status for that store.. Did that in Lafayette Tenn . There is a distributor in Goodlettsville,Tenn. Friends claim to buy it by the case there.. Herb On Sun, 28 May 2006 09:32:29 -0700 (PDT) ray anderson writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson > > Help, help, > > "Pennzoil 2 stroke air cooled engine oil" which I have always > used has disappeared in this area. Is it off the market every > where? If so what are most of you finding as a good substitute. > They are pushing their 2 stroke outboard engine oil which is > partially synthetic. Any one have any experience with it? > > Ray > UltraStar > TN Do no archive > > > --------------------------------- > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:57:09 AM PST US From: HShack@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pennzoil 2 stroke aircooled oil --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com In a message dated 5/28/2006 12:34:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, rsanoa@yahoo.com writes: Pennzoil 2 stroke air cooled engine oil" which I have always used has disappeared in this area. Is it off the market every where? If so what are most of you finding as a good substitute. They are pushing their 2 stroke outboard engine oil which is partially synthetic. Any one have any experience with it? I started with Penn. 2 stroke aircooled, went to their outboard oil, then to AV-2. All of it worked well for me, can't recommend one over the other. Howard Shackleford FS II SC ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:24 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pennzoil 2 stroke aircooled oil --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike I have had good success since 1983 using Phillips Injex two stroke oil. Switched to Pennzoil for one season to try it out, the only difference I could see was that the oily mung on the tail feathers was nastier. Went back to Injex. I call the local distributor and they drop off a case of 12 quarts at the door. $33 a case, not too shabby. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ray anderson wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson > > Help, help, > > "Pennzoil 2 stroke air cooled engine oil" which I have always used has disappeared in this area. Is it off the market every where? If so what are most of you finding as a good substitute. They are pushing their 2 stroke outboard engine oil which is partially synthetic. Any one have any experience with it? > > Ray > UltraStar > TN Do no archive > > > --------------------------------- > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:51:03 AM PST US From: "Guillermo Uribe" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: MV-2006 was a Success! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guillermo Uribe" I'm sad to say I didn't take vary many pictures at MV this year. If anyone took pictures of my FireStar landing or taking off please e-mail me copies. Thanks Will Uribe FireStar II N4GU El Paso, TX BTW; This picture was taken 07/02/2001 at MV. Attendees were Dave Rains and Will Uribe in two FireStars. :-) http://www.tnkolbaircraft.com/album/guillermouribe.html ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:54 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Kolb-List: Decoration Day---kinda long --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer This is some 500+ words, so you can dump as you wish. It's nothing to do with flying...except that perhaps The Day remembers all who have gone ahead for any reason. If it bothers you, send complaints to me, either on/off list. When Memorial Day Was Truly 'Decoration Day' By Robert O Noyer Now comes another federally mandated holiday, dedicated to the merchants of America. This holiday, conveniently hooked on to a weekend, allows us extra time off from our jobs so that we may celebrate The Memorial Day Sale, as well as get in a little extra time behind the wheel something we do all week anyway! A glance at the calendar sometimes shows two Memorial Days one "observed," the other just plain old Memorial Day. Can any of us remember when there was just one such day, and what was memorialized then? For many years, May 30 was set aside to honor the memories of fallen servicemen in all the wars. Many of the southern states have a different day, however the observance is the same. Perhaps it was a Virginia woman, Cassandra Oliver Moncure, a distant relative of mine, who during the War Between the States, first dedicated this day to the dead. In my family, and no doubt in many others, May 30 was called Decoration Day. On this day we went to the country cemeteries where our ancestors were buried, and clipped the new grass around the headstones, taking care to tweak the just-blooming peonies, and placing fresh-cut flowers from our own gardens in Mason jars on the family plots. My grandmothers always knew which graves might not be tended for lack of living relatives, and so brought flowers for these plots, tending them as well. As children, we were warned to never walk on a grave plot. And I remember more than 75 years ago the small parades in these tiny country towns. The entire Boy Scout troop of seven, including what appeared to be the smallest Scout, carrying The Colors with 48 stars. A somewhat off-tune but determined Town Band wheezing out The Stars And Stripes Forever and My Country Tis Of Thee. Only a couple of very old Civil War veterans, riding in an open car emblazoned with red,white and blue bunting, leading a few more from the Spanish- American War. And maybe a dozen from World War I ("The War to End All Wars"). Most of the veterans still had a piece or two of their old uniforms, and all had a few medals. Some of the World War "doughboys" had their odd flat-brimmed "tin hats" and tightly wound puttees, but all who marched did so in spite of age and pain. Each may have thought it might be their last time to follow the Flag. At Old Town Cemetery, all the old vets stood at attention, with the younger men at each side of the Civil War soldiers. The several widows, all in black, dotted the crowd of a couple of dozen, standing near a few graves. Three volleys were fired from two old hunting rifles. The preacher gave a long prayer, a wavering Taps was sounded by the silver cornet player of the Town Band, and the formal Decoration Day ceremonies were over. Later we entertained old friends with real home-cranked ice cream and chocolate cake while bringing back the memories of past times and the people in them. Perhaps it was Memorial Day after all. First published in The Winchester (VA) Star, 5/29/1999 Editorial regards, Bob N. http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:31:16 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Decoration Day---kinda long From: "Ralph Hoover" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" Do you mean to tell me that this Memorial Day is not for discounts on cars, appliances, groceries, furniture, lawn supplies and new homes at really "blow out prices" deep discounts? I thought something was missing in all that we were to celebrate. I spoke these same type words to my wife the other day. Memorial Day. Wasn't that something that we were supposed to remember , in the fact that others gave their lives, unselfishly for their country and their fellow citizens so that we may enjoy the other 364 days a year for their "BLOW-OUT SALE and INTEREST FREE BARGAINS? To all of you who have served. To all of you who have done without the companionship of a Father or Mother, Sister or Brother because they gave un-selfishly for the preservation of this Nation and its values, I solute you and thank you for what they hoped to have accomplished. For all the greedy, sucking, one-more-deal making, blow-out, deep discount business who don't or somehow cant make enough money all the other days of the year, I say SHAME ON YOU! And unlike Bob N., the poster of the message regarding Decoration Day, that said If it bothers you, send complaints to me, either on/off list. I say, pick another country! But I believe most if not all that enjoy the Brotherhood of flying, know somewhat deep inside the real values of those lives not given in vain. All of the men in my faily served and lived to come back and give to the fullness of their lives. Bob N., Thank you for reminding a few what this weekend is really all about. Ralph in Ohio Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37029#37029 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:20 PM PST US From: "ron wehba" Subject: Kolb-List: The Back-Yard Flyer UL --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" check this out , plain and VERY simple, and watch the video of the other = backyard flyer. http://www.culverprops.com/back-yard-ul.htm ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:31:09 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club From: "Max Stanford" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" Glad to hear you were not hurt and nothing was damaged Bob. I would not put you in the "BigLAr" club though. Your misfortune was due to a mechanical failure. Big Lar has caused his own problems with Vamoose. After reading about Lars trailer fiasco, I understood exactly why his plane has never flown. Constant bad choices and the inability to accomplish anything. Just endless excuses from Lar and 5 years of one fiasco after another blamed on everything but his own incompetence. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37039#37039 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:44:08 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" And where did you come from ?? Why don't you go back there ?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Stanford" Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 5:29 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" > > Glad to hear you were not hurt and nothing was damaged Bob. I would not > put you in the "BigLAr" club though. Your misfortune was due to a > mechanical failure. > > Big Lar has caused his own problems with Vamoose. After reading about > Lars trailer fiasco, I understood exactly why his plane has never flown. > Constant bad choices and the inability to accomplish anything. Just > endless excuses from Lar and 5 years of one fiasco after another blamed on > everything but his own incompetence. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37039#37039 > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:51:33 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Group, I wondered whether to respond to this one..... I consider Lar a good friend. Has nothing to do with his owning a Kolb or whatever. Kolbs and this list are what were responsible for our meeting. It could have been stamp collecting or bowling. Makes no diff. I know the majority here feel the same. I admit to spending a few hours today feeling sorry for myself. Screwing up is something I do with regularity but somehow I manage to get up the next day and make a fresh start. Let us hear no more of this kind, it adds nothing and takes away everything. -BB On 28, May 2006, at 8:29 PM, Max Stanford wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" > > > Glad to hear you were not hurt and nothing was damaged Bob. I would > not put you in the "BigLAr" club though. Your misfortune was due to a > mechanical failure. > > Big Lar has caused his own problems with Vamoose. After reading about > Lars trailer fiasco, I understood exactly why his plane has never > flown. Constant bad choices and the inability to accomplish anything. > Just endless excuses from Lar and 5 years of one fiasco after > another blamed on everything but his own incompetence. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37039#37039 > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:26 PM PST US From: "Kolbdriver" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" WOW! Richard! Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Max Stanford Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" Glad to hear you were not hurt and nothing was damaged Bob. I would not put you in the "BigLAr" club though. Your misfortune was due to a mechanical failure. Big Lar has caused his own problems with Vamoose. After reading about Lars trailer fiasco, I understood exactly why his plane has never flown. Constant bad choices and the inability to accomplish anything. Just endless excuses from Lar and 5 years of one fiasco after another blamed on everything but his own incompetence. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37039#37039 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:10:53 PM PST US From: "Bob Dalton" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton" Max, I do not know if your post on Big Lar was in jest or a personal attack. I have met Larry a few times and he is a good friend and very knowledgeable of many things, not just planes. I can understand why Larry has not finished his MKIII, as he is involved with so many other things besides finishing his Kolb. Bob B. thanks for your post stating the same, this list is for sharing our experiences and friendships through our postings. Larry if it is okay with you I would like to join your club and stand beside you my friend. Bob Dalton Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of robert bean Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 5:51 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Group, I wondered whether to respond to this one..... I consider Lar a good friend. Has nothing to do with his owning a Kolb or whatever. Kolbs and this list are what were responsible for our meeting. It could have been stamp collecting or bowling. Makes no diff. I know the majority here feel the same. I admit to spending a few hours today feeling sorry for myself. Screwing up is something I do with regularity but somehow I manage to get up the next day and make a fresh start. Let us hear no more of this kind, it adds nothing and takes away everything. -BB On 28, May 2006, at 8:29 PM, Max Stanford wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" > > > Glad to hear you were not hurt and nothing was damaged Bob. I would > not put you in the "BigLAr" club though. Your misfortune was due to a > mechanical failure. > > Big Lar has caused his own problems with Vamoose. After reading about > Lars trailer fiasco, I understood exactly why his plane has never > flown. Constant bad choices and the inability to accomplish anything. > Just endless excuses from Lar and 5 years of one fiasco after > another blamed on everything but his own incompetence. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37039#37039 > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:16:54 PM PST US From: Swampist@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar skeleton for sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: Swampist@aol.com Hello, anyone interested in a nearly complete albeit damaged, Firestar ? Cage has rust and both wings bent.(Years ago).Contact me off list at swampist (AT) aol.com located central Va. do not archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:52 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" Bob, Glad to hear you made it safely to terrafirma, I'm betting you beat Lar back into the air by a good year or three. :-) Denny do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert bean" Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:07 PM Subject: Kolb-List: joining the BigLar club > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > > Group, what a fine day! Off through the fading fog banks and into > the sun. Attended a fly in breakfast at what we lowlanders call > high altitude; 1600MSL > 5 miles from home its time to gain a little altitude because the terrain > near home is inhospitable. Engine does one of those "interruptions" > Not good. Throttle back and review the situation. Engine still > running. Looking for respectable landing spot. A little farther on > I (finally) notice the temp gauge is pegged. hmmm > A wheatfield on the edge of a nearby village has a trail through it. > Can't be too picky. Circle and land with no damage. > Hose came off at elbow out of head. Lousy design, I followed the > redrive vendor's method. That will have to be modified. > The engine must have run for at least 10 minutes with no water. > The oil cooler I put on it must have kept things turning. > A friendly local fetched me some water and a screwdriver, I stuck > it back together, flew home. > From the scratchy feel that wasn't there before I must have screwed > up the rings and walls. It looks like BB may be walking for a spell. > > do not archive > > > -- > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:36:16 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" Wow Max, Easy does it there big fellow, we jag around with Lar but keep it in good taste, he has quite a project on his hands with that engine conversion and just getting VaMoose to it's current state of completion is no small feat. Keep your chin up Big Lar, Denny Rowe ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:48 PM PST US From: "Beauford" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" YEAH.....!!!! Nobody beats up on Lar but his friends.... Sure, he looks funny... and kinda smells different.... and tires do seem to have a way of dry-rotting off'n that thing he is building on his porch.... But he's OUR Lar.... and, by the way, how did you get in here, anyway....? Reckon you can find yer way out....? ....sheesh... Beauford Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Dalton" Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 9:10 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton" > > Max, > I do not know if your post on Big Lar was in jest or a personal > attack. I > have met Larry a few times and he is a good friend and very > knowledgeable of > many things, not just planes. I can understand why Larry has not > finished > his MKIII, as he is involved with so many other things besides > finishing his > Kolb. > Bob B. thanks for your post stating the same, this list is for > sharing our > experiences and friendships through our postings. > Larry if it is okay with you I would like to join your club and > stand beside > you my friend. > > Bob Dalton > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of robert > bean > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 5:51 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > > Group, I wondered whether to respond to this one..... > > I consider Lar a good friend. Has nothing to do with his > owning a Kolb or whatever. Kolbs and this list are what were > responsible for our meeting. It could have been stamp collecting > or bowling. Makes no diff. I know the majority here feel the same. > > I admit to spending a few hours today feeling sorry for myself. > Screwing up is something I do with regularity but somehow I > manage to get up the next day and make a fresh start. > > Let us hear no more of this kind, it adds nothing and takes away > everything. > -BB > On 28, May 2006, at 8:29 PM, Max Stanford wrote: > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" >> >> >> Glad to hear you were not hurt and nothing was damaged Bob. I >> would >> not put you in the "BigLAr" club though. Your misfortune was due >> to a >> mechanical failure. >> >> Big Lar has caused his own problems with Vamoose. After reading >> about >> Lars trailer fiasco, I understood exactly why his plane has never >> flown. Constant bad choices and the inability to accomplish >> anything. >> Just endless excuses from Lar and 5 years of one fiasco after >> another blamed on everything but his own incompetence. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37039#37039 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:50:31 PM PST US From: "ron wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" same here, I met "big Lar here in texas in morning and spent around 4 hours with him, a great guy,,just wish i could go and do and see all that he has, ronnie wehba ,sweetwater,tx. ps if anyone has not been to his site , go have a look,great pictures there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Dalton" Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:10 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton" > > Max, > I do not know if your post on Big Lar was in jest or a personal attack. I > have met Larry a few times and he is a good friend and very knowledgeable > of > many things, not just planes. I can understand why Larry has not finished > his MKIII, as he is involved with so many other things besides finishing > his > Kolb. > Bob B. thanks for your post stating the same, this list is for sharing our > experiences and friendships through our postings. > Larry if it is okay with you I would like to join your club and stand > beside > you my friend. > > Bob Dalton > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of robert bean > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 5:51 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > > Group, I wondered whether to respond to this one..... > > I consider Lar a good friend. Has nothing to do with his > owning a Kolb or whatever. Kolbs and this list are what were > responsible for our meeting. It could have been stamp collecting > or bowling. Makes no diff. I know the majority here feel the same. > > I admit to spending a few hours today feeling sorry for myself. > Screwing up is something I do with regularity but somehow I > manage to get up the next day and make a fresh start. > > Let us hear no more of this kind, it adds nothing and takes away > everything. > -BB > On 28, May 2006, at 8:29 PM, Max Stanford wrote: > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" >> >> >> Glad to hear you were not hurt and nothing was damaged Bob. I would >> not put you in the "BigLAr" club though. Your misfortune was due to a >> mechanical failure. >> >> Big Lar has caused his own problems with Vamoose. After reading about >> Lars trailer fiasco, I understood exactly why his plane has never >> flown. Constant bad choices and the inability to accomplish anything. >> Just endless excuses from Lar and 5 years of one fiasco after >> another blamed on everything but his own incompetence. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37039#37039 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:20:30 PM PST US From: "Kolbdriver" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" Amen!! I'm proud to call the big lug er, big lar, my friend also... Mike Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beauford Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:40 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" YEAH.....!!!! Nobody beats up on Lar but his friends.... Sure, he looks funny... and kinda smells different.... and tires do seem to have a way of dry-rotting off'n that thing he is building on his porch.... But he's OUR Lar.... and, by the way, how did you get in here, anyway....? Reckon you can find yer way out....? ....sheesh... Beauford Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Dalton" Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 9:10 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton" > > Max, > I do not know if your post on Big Lar was in jest or a personal > attack. I > have met Larry a few times and he is a good friend and very > knowledgeable of > many things, not just planes. I can understand why Larry has not > finished > his MKIII, as he is involved with so many other things besides > finishing his > Kolb. > Bob B. thanks for your post stating the same, this list is for > sharing our > experiences and friendships through our postings. > Larry if it is okay with you I would like to join your club and > stand beside > you my friend. > > Bob Dalton > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of robert > bean > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 5:51 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > > Group, I wondered whether to respond to this one..... > > I consider Lar a good friend. Has nothing to do with his > owning a Kolb or whatever. Kolbs and this list are what were > responsible for our meeting. It could have been stamp collecting > or bowling. Makes no diff. I know the majority here feel the same. > > I admit to spending a few hours today feeling sorry for myself. > Screwing up is something I do with regularity but somehow I > manage to get up the next day and make a fresh start. > > Let us hear no more of this kind, it adds nothing and takes away > everything. > -BB > On 28, May 2006, at 8:29 PM, Max Stanford wrote: > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" >> >> >> Glad to hear you were not hurt and nothing was damaged Bob. I >> would >> not put you in the "BigLAr" club though. Your misfortune was due >> to a >> mechanical failure. >> >> Big Lar has caused his own problems with Vamoose. After reading >> about >> Lars trailer fiasco, I understood exactly why his plane has never >> flown. Constant bad choices and the inability to accomplish >> anything. >> Just endless excuses from Lar and 5 years of one fiasco after >> another blamed on everything but his own incompetence. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37039#37039 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:54 PM PST US From: "Wayne T. McCullough" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Decoration Day---kinda long --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wayne T. McCullough" I too consider myself a patriot.....However, most of my family heritage has been fighting terrorism since 1861......If you cannot have something like freedom..... TAKE IT BY FORCE...... I'm just a southern nationalist.........I like the ORIGINAL American REPUBLIC........not the democracy we live in now......Amazing how folks just choose to IGNORE history.... WT Kolb 004... Pics coming soon..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Noyer" Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Decoration Day---kinda long > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer > > This is some 500+ words, so you can dump as you wish. It's nothing to > do with flying...except that perhaps The Day remembers all who have > gone ahead for any reason. If it bothers you, send complaints to me, > either on/off list. > > > When Memorial Day Was Truly 'Decoration Day' > By Robert O Noyer > > Now comes another federally mandated holiday, dedicated to the > merchants of America. > > This holiday, conveniently hooked on to a weekend, allows us extra > time off from our jobs so that we may celebrate The Memorial Day > Sale, as well as get in a little extra time behind the wheel > something we do all week anyway! > > A glance at the calendar sometimes shows two Memorial Days one > "observed," the other just plain old Memorial Day. Can any of us > remember when there was just one such day, and what was memorialized > then? > > For many years, May 30 was set aside to honor the memories of fallen > servicemen in all the wars. Many of the southern states have a > different day, however the observance is the same. Perhaps it was a > Virginia woman, Cassandra Oliver Moncure, a distant relative of mine, > who during the War Between the States, first dedicated this day to > the dead. > > In my family, and no doubt in many others, May 30 was called > Decoration Day. On this day we went to the country cemeteries where > our ancestors were buried, and clipped the new grass around the > headstones, taking care to tweak the just-blooming peonies, and > placing fresh-cut flowers from our own gardens in Mason jars on the > family plots. > > My grandmothers always knew which graves might not be tended for lack > of living relatives, and so brought flowers for these plots, tending > them as well. As children, we were warned to never walk on a grave plot. > > And I remember more than 75 years ago the small parades in these tiny > country towns. The entire Boy Scout troop of seven, including what > appeared to be the smallest Scout, carrying The Colors with 48 stars. > A somewhat off-tune but determined Town Band wheezing out The Stars > And Stripes Forever and My Country Tis Of Thee. Only a couple of very > old Civil War veterans, riding in an open car emblazoned with > red,white and blue bunting, leading a few more from the Spanish- > American War. And maybe a dozen from World War I ("The War to End All > Wars"). > > Most of the veterans still had a piece or two of their old uniforms, > and all had a few medals. Some of the World War "doughboys" had their > odd flat-brimmed "tin hats" and tightly wound puttees, but all who > marched did so in spite of age and pain. Each may have thought it > might be their last time to follow the Flag. > > At Old Town Cemetery, all the old vets stood at attention, with the > younger men at each side of the Civil War soldiers. The several > widows, all in black, dotted the crowd of a couple of dozen, standing > near a few graves. Three volleys were fired from two old hunting > rifles. The preacher gave a long prayer, a wavering Taps was sounded > by the silver cornet player of the Town Band, and the formal > Decoration Day ceremonies were over. > > Later we entertained old friends with real home-cranked ice cream and > chocolate cake while bringing back the memories of past times and the > people in them. Perhaps it was Memorial Day after all. > > First published in The Winchester (VA) Star, 5/29/1999 Editorial > > regards, > Bob N. > http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ > > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:45:38 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Kolb-List: Valley Engineering question --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Got a question for Rick Neilson: I have been impressed for years with Valley Engineering's ability to get great performance out of the VW, but every one of their airplanes has always been unmuffled/incredibly loud. Is there any way to make the thing work well and also be quiet? Is your MKIII quiet? I am tempted in the Valley Reduction/VW direction, but since my strip is right beside the subdivision, it is going to have to as quiet as a stock bug. Realistic? Pipe dream? 75 pounds of muffler? No way? Thanks Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:09 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Kolb-List: The Big Lar Club --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Now I guess I know how John H. feels...... :-) I'd like to say thanks to those who came forward in my support. I don't = know who this guy is, but I do wish he'd crawl back under his rock and = stay there. Yes, I'm unhappy about his comments. I don't know about "bad" choices.......I do know that many of my choices = have been "different," and I've shared them - successes, frustrations, = and failures - in hopes of helping others figure out problems, and = especially, avoid some of the pitfalls I've run into. It pleases me to = add a little humor along the way, too. =20 Blaming what ?? Seems to me I've mostly blamed my own = procrastination......... :-) And yes, I do travel a lot, love it, = don't see that changing, and yes, I do have many other projects, and = don't see that changing, either.=20 Looks funny ?? Awwww.........Beaufie.......:-(=20 Considering the Source Lar. Do not Archive. ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:23 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Valley Engineering question --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" While waiting for Rick to respond, I can say that even tho' Vamoose hasn't flown yet, the engine has been run quite a few times. It has the dual exhaust system from Scat Engineering, and sounds like any other high performance street VW. I can't prove this yet, but I do believe the prop makes as much or more noise than the exhaust. I'm sure there are lighter systems out there that would work well, too. Lar. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:45 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Valley Engineering question > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike > > Got a question for Rick Neilson: I have been impressed for years with > Valley Engineering's ability to get great performance out of the VW, but > every one of their airplanes has always been unmuffled/incredibly loud. > Is there any way to make the thing work well and also be quiet? Is your > MKIII quiet? I am tempted in the Valley Reduction/VW direction, but > since my strip is right beside the subdivision, it is going to have to > as quiet as a stock bug. > > Realistic? Pipe dream? 75 pounds of muffler? No way? > > Thanks > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 08:42:38 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club From: "Ed in JXN" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed in JXN" > Big Lar has caused his own problems with Vamoose. After reading about Lars trailer fiasco, I understood exactly why his plane has never flown. Constant bad choices and the inability to accomplish anything. Just endless excuses from Lar and 5 years of one fiasco after another blamed on everything but his own incompetence. Just one question: What did you do with the money? You know, the money for the Dale Carnegie course you never took. [Rolling Eyes] P.S.: You've found a real quick way to my 'ignore' list, bud. Ed in JXN MkII/503 Do not archive. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37082#37082 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:04 PM PST US From: "Ed Chmielewski" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The Back-Yard Flyer UL --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" Hi Ron, I didn't see any video available. Probably my old eyes. Ed in JXN Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ron wehba" Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:10 PM Subject: Kolb-List: The Back-Yard Flyer UL > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" > > check this out , plain and VERY simple, and watch the video of the other = > backyard flyer. > http://www.culverprops.com/back-yard-ul.htm >