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1. 04:47 AM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (Todd Fredricks)
2. 04:53 AM - Looking for a Kolb to buy (Gene & Tammy)
3. 05:08 AM - Re: Looking for a Kolb to buy (David Key)
4. 05:22 AM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar clubRe: joining the BigLar club (Thom Riddle)
5. 05:45 AM - Re: Valley Engineering question (Thom Riddle)
6. 07:18 AM - Re: The Back-Yard Flyer UL (ray anderson)
7. 08:32 AM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (George E. Thompson)
8. 11:05 AM - Re: joining the BigLar club (planecrazzzy)
9. 11:40 AM - Re: {SPAM?} Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (snuffy@usol.com)
10. 02:48 PM - Re: The Back-Yard Flyer UL (ron wehba)
11. 03:02 PM - Two New Email Lists at Matronics and Wiki Reminder! (Matt Dralle)
12. 04:34 PM - Kolb trailer (Gene & Tammy)
13. 09:40 PM - John H and John W and Landing in the Or Outback (lcottrell)
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| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
On 5/28/06 11:40 PM, "Ed in JXN" <edchmiel@mindspring.com> wrote:
>=20
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed in JXN" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
>=20
>=20
>> Big Lar has caused his own problems with Vamoose. After reading about La=
rs
>> trailer fiasco, I understood exactly why his plane has never flown. Cons=
tant
>> bad choices and the inability to accomplish anything. Just endless excus=
es
>> from Lar and 5 years of one fiasco after another blamed on everything bu=
t his
>> own incompetence.
WHOA! There=B9s some kind of thing going on there...
DO NOT ARCHIVE
--=20
Todd Fredricks, DO
Flying Fox Services
Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com
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| Subject: | Looking for a Kolb to buy |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
Good morning Folks,
Very interesting group! I'm hoping you will help me in my search for a =
Kolb. I'm looking for a light, 2 stroke, well built, well maintained =
good flying bird. Single or 2 seat. 10 gal or more fuel tank and would =
prefer a 503 but will consider all engines. I live in Tennessee and =
will be willing to travel to locate the right bird. A trailer would be =
a real plus.
Thank you
Gene
zharvey@bellsouth.net
731-584-3443 =20
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| Subject: | Looking for a Kolb to buy |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
Try Barnstormers there are a bunch.
do not archive
>From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Looking for a Kolb to buy
>Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 06:53:04 -0500
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
>
>Good morning Folks,
>Very interesting group! I'm hoping you will help me in my search for a =
>Kolb. I'm looking for a light, 2 stroke, well built, well maintained =
>good flying bird. Single or 2 seat. 10 gal or more fuel tank and would =
>prefer a 503 but will consider all engines. I live in Tennessee and =
>will be willing to travel to locate the right bird. A trailer would be =
>a real plus.
>Thank you
>Gene
>zharvey@bellsouth.net
>731-584-3443 =20
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar clubRe: joining the BigLar club |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Me too!
Big Lar sat on my front porch here in Tonawanda, NY a few years ago as
we watched it rain. We were going to fly my Cherokee that day but the
weather just wasn't cooperating. I'm not sure he is much farther along
on his airplane building now than he was then, but I've never built or
even started to build an airplane so I can't fault him at all in any
way. I've always taken the easy and quick way out by buying someone
else's labor of flying love. No longer own a Kolb but probably will
again someday.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: Valley Engineering question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Richard,
I know your question is about noisy VW engine exhaust but your question is of course
applicable to all 4 stroke engines.
I used to own and fly a Titan Tornado with 912UL engine. The builder of this airplane
made his own exhaust system instead of buying Titan's ridiculously expensive
and outrageously loud exhaust system. The Titan "system" was simply a 4-into-1
collector with no muffler at all and was notorious for its noise. The builder
of my Tornado built a 4-into-1 collector with a short glass-pack style
muffler of about 4" diameter and perhaps 10" long coming out of the collector.
I'm guessing the muffler weighed maybe 3-5 lbs. My old Tornado was the quietest
of any Tornado I've every heard. Bob Bean can vouch for this as I've done full
power buzzes of his place just to see how noisy it was(n't).
Bottom line, no 4--stroke has to be loud and the weight penalty for a major noise
reduction does not have to be that great.
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Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: The Back-Yard Flyer UL |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
On the Back Yard Flyer. I don't think many will be happy having the exhaust fumes
(carbon monoxide ) flowing into their face. I can't see Uncle Sam putting
a license on that.
ron wehba <rwehba@cebridge.net> wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba"
check this out , plain and VERY simple, and watch the video of the other =
backyard flyer.
http://www.culverprops.com/back-yard-ul.htm
---------------------------------
Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
I don't think that one little "Snip" is going to get Big Lar down. He is
much bigger than that and also a man I can call my friend.
Az. Bald Eagle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:19 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
>
> Amen!!
>
> I'm proud to call the big lug er, big lar, my friend also...
>
> Mike
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beauford
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:40 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> YEAH.....!!!!
> Nobody beats up on Lar but his friends....
> Sure, he looks funny... and kinda smells different.... and tires
> do seem to have a way of dry-rotting off'n that thing he is building
> on his porch....
>
> But he's OUR Lar.... and, by the way, how did you get in here,
> anyway....?
> Reckon you can find yer way out....?
> ....sheesh...
> Beauford
> Do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 9:10 PM
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
>>
>> Max,
>> I do not know if your post on Big Lar was in jest or a personal
>> attack. I
>> have met Larry a few times and he is a good friend and very
>> knowledgeable of
>> many things, not just planes. I can understand why Larry has not
>> finished
>> his MKIII, as he is involved with so many other things besides
>> finishing his
>> Kolb.
>> Bob B. thanks for your post stating the same, this list is for
>> sharing our
>> experiences and friendships through our postings.
>> Larry if it is okay with you I would like to join your club and
>> stand beside
>> you my friend.
>>
>> Bob Dalton
>> Do not archive
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of robert
>> bean
>> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 5:51 PM
>> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club
>>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>>
>> Group, I wondered whether to respond to this one.....
>>
>> I consider Lar a good friend. Has nothing to do with his
>> owning a Kolb or whatever. Kolbs and this list are what were
>> responsible for our meeting. It could have been stamp collecting
>> or bowling. Makes no diff. I know the majority here feel the same.
>>
>> I admit to spending a few hours today feeling sorry for myself.
>> Screwing up is something I do with regularity but somehow I
>> manage to get up the next day and make a fresh start.
>>
>> Let us hear no more of this kind, it adds nothing and takes away
>> everything.
>> -BB
>> On 28, May 2006, at 8:29 PM, Max Stanford wrote:
>>
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford"
>>> <maxstanford77@yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> Glad to hear you were not hurt and nothing was damaged Bob. I
>>> would
>>> not put you in the "BigLAr" club though. Your misfortune was due
>>> to a
>>> mechanical failure.
>>>
>>> Big Lar has caused his own problems with Vamoose. After reading
>>> about
>>> Lars trailer fiasco, I understood exactly why his plane has never
>>> flown. Constant bad choices and the inability to accomplish
>>> anything.
>>> Just endless excuses from Lar and 5 years of one fiasco after
>>> another blamed on everything but his own incompetence.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=37039#37039
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
eagle1(at)commspeed.net wrote:
> I don't think that one little "Snip" is going to get Big Lar down. He is
> much bigger than that
>
> ---
Well, it won't "keep" him down...But I'm sure it hurt his feeling...
Taker easy "Big Lar"
Gotta Fly...(I beat "Big Lar" in da Air)
Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Re: joining the BigLar club |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com
"Constant bad choices and the inability to accomplish anything"
Well max, Lar is good at some things for sure. Knowing how to treat
people with dignity and respect, handling his emotions in a mature
intelligent manner, and certainly at making friends.
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| Subject: | Re: The Back-Yard Flyer UL |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@cebridge.net>
looks real easy to route it down under the plane!
----- Original Message -----
From: "ray anderson" <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The Back-Yard Flyer UL
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
>
> On the Back Yard Flyer. I don't think many will be happy having the
> exhaust fumes (carbon monoxide ) flowing into their face. I can't see
> Uncle Sam putting a license on that.
>
> ron wehba <rwehba@cebridge.net> wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by:
> "ron wehba"
>
> check this out , plain and VERY simple, and watch the video of the other =
> backyard flyer.
> http://www.culverprops.com/back-yard-ul.htm
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
>
>
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| Subject: | Two New Email Lists at Matronics and Wiki Reminder! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
I have added two new email Lists to the Matronics Line up today. These include
a Continental engine List and a Lightning aircraft List:
===========
continental-list@matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Continental-List
Everything related to the Continental aircraft engine. Sky's the limit on discussions
here.
===========
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lightning-list@matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
This is an exciting new design from Arion Aircraft LLC in Shelbyville Tennessee. Pete Krotje has a very nice web site on the aircraft that can be found here: http://www.arionaircraft.com/
===========
Also, if you haven't checked out the new Matronics Aircraft Wiki, swing by and
have a look. Remember, a Wiki is only as good as the content that the members
put into it. Have a look over some of the sections, and if you've got some interesting
or useful, please add it to the Wiki! Its all about YOU! :-) The
URL for the Matronics Wiki is:
http://wiki.matronics.com
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
I want to thank everyone that responded to my request for a Kolb to =
buy. I'm very impressed with how well everyone keeps theirs up. Lots =
of good looking airplanes. Now that I have located the one for me I am =
in the need of a trailer.. I live in Tennessee. Is there anyone that =
has a suitable trailer for sale or rent so I can trailer the bird home?
Again, Thank you
Gene
zharvey@bellsouth.net
731-584-3443
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| Subject: | John H and John W and Landing in the Or Outback |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "lcottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
Well both the John's departed the Rock House this morning for their respective
destination.
The weather has been pretty crappy since their arrival. We did manage to get in
a couple of flights and a lot of visiting and picture viewing so it was not a
loss. One of the trips that we took included Big Horn Sheep that Roger ferreted
out around the Alvord Desert. The flying group included Arty Trost (Drifter)
and Roger Hankins from this list. John W's brother-in-law and his friend also
came to visit.
We had done about all the Bull Shiping we could, so John W suggested that we might
as well work on "Dart". I immediately started the heat in the hanger, The
Johns and Roger started ripping and drilling, while I mostly acted as Gopher.
Everything is still in boxes and I can't find a thing that I want so that was
a full time job for me. We have the motor off, the fabric all off and I will be
one lucky son of a gun if I can manage to get it all together again. I have
tires, nose bowl, engine, and a fabric kit coming. Its too bad that I didn't have
all the stuff here before they arrived or It would probably be ready for the
air by next week. I am telling you those guys can get some work done!
I finally got some of the pictures from my mishap so I will include them. The only
damage to the plane is the nose bowl and the piece that the rudder pedals
fit over on the front of the cage. I decided that I was going to recover the plane
as the fabric is more than 10 years old and we actually managed to damage
the fabric bringing it out of the area that I landed in. It was a good decision
as the fabric was not in good conditon at all. I will of course need a new
enclosure.
I got a call from John W and he is south of San Frisco this evening.
Larry
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