Kolb-List Digest Archive

Sat 06/03/06


Total Messages Posted: 32



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     1. 05:54 AM - Re: Not a club joiner, but....... (Richard Girard)
     2. 05:54 AM - Re: Not a club joiner, but....... (Richard Girard)
     3. 08:35 AM - Shipping a prop? (Eugene Zimmerman)
     4. 08:37 AM - planecrazzzzzzzzzzzzy (Chris Mallory)
     5. 08:41 AM - Re: Shipping a prop? (Jim Hauck)
     6. 09:53 AM - MV2006 (John Hauck)
     7. 09:53 AM - Re: Not a club joiner, but....... (Rick Pearce)
     8. 10:15 AM - Re: Not a club joiner, but....... (John Hauck)
     9. 11:38 AM - Re: Shipping a prop? (Charlie England)
    10. 02:40 PM - Re: planecrazzzzzzzzzzzzy (Max Stanford)
    11. 02:51 PM - Re: Shipping a prop? (Herb Gayheart)
    12. 02:56 PM - Re: joining the BigLar club (Max Stanford)
    13. 03:17 PM - Re: Vamoose (Max Stanford)
    14. 03:22 PM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (Guy Morgan)
    15. 04:07 PM - Hey Big Man Max (David Key)
    16. 04:53 PM - List Enclosure Support (Matt Dralle)
    17. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: planecrazzzzzzzzzzzzy (Chris Mallory)
    18. 04:59 PM - "Max Stanford" (Jimmy)
    19. 05:21 PM - SlingShot Airrame on Ebay (13brv3)
    20. 05:22 PM - Bent my gear (planecrazzzy)
    21. 05:32 PM - Re: joining the BigLar club (Ralph Hoover)
    22. 05:52 PM - Where's the love? (Ralph Hoover)
    23. 06:48 PM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (Jeremy Casey)
    24. 07:34 PM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (ron wehba)
    25. 08:16 PM - Trying it out Matt (Bob Dalton)
    26. 08:20 PM - Re: Re: joining the BigLar club (Larry Bourne)
    27. 08:44 PM - Re: Trying it out Matt (Larry Bourne)
    28. 08:54 PM - MV Sunrise (Larry Bourne)
    29. 08:56 PM - Re: Trying it out Matt (Bob Dalton)
    30. 09:15 PM - Thinking of MV (Larry Bourne)
    31. 10:02 PM - Re: Trying it out Matt (FS2Kolb@aol.com)
    32. 11:20 PM - Re: MV2006 (WillUribe@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:54:36 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Not a club joiner, but.......
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com> John, By next month,we'll even have a place to put airplanes to put of the weather. Keep us in mind the next time you go fly about. On 6/2/06, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > > | http://www.airnav.com/airport/18KS > > Wish I had known you were there late yesterday afternoon. Probably > flew right over your house. > > Landed at Miami, OK, didn't like the looks of the airport. Took off > again and snook into Neosho, Missouri, just at dark and right behind > the thunderstorm. Had a good night's sleep on the floor of the FBO, > but would have rather stayed at your place. ;-) > > john h > mkIII > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 05:54:36 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Not a club joiner, but.......
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com> That would be out of the weather. Where's that thought checker when you really want to make sense. On 6/2/06, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > > | http://www.airnav.com/airport/18KS > > Wish I had known you were there late yesterday afternoon. Probably > flew right over your house. > > Landed at Miami, OK, didn't like the looks of the airport. Took off > again and snook into Neosho, Missouri, just at dark and right behind > the thunderstorm. Had a good night's sleep on the floor of the FBO, > but would have rather stayed at your place. ;-) > > john h > mkIII > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 08:35:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Shipping a prop?
    From: "Eugene Zimmerman" <etzim62@earthlink.net>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Eugene Zimmerman" <etzim62@earthlink.net> I have a prop I want to list for sale on E-bay but I'm having a problem finding a box of adaquate size and length to to ship it. It is a 68" diameter Tennessee wood prop. A 6' box is what I'm looking for. The UPS store doesn't have anything that long. Any ideas? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38290#38290


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    Time: 08:37:44 AM PST US
    From: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: planecrazzzzzzzzzzzzy
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com> Mike, You really do need to lighten up man. What I said about your fourth landing gear was meant to be a little bit of light hearted humor. I didn't call you names, attack your manhood or patriotism or speak to you in any disrespectful manor whatsoever. You take everything so personally However, I do feel that you probably have your head as far up your butt as it could possibly go and that if you had even a smattering of piloting skills, you wouldn't need a nerf bar on the front of your plane in the first place. do not archive


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    Time: 08:41:49 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Shipping a prop?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net> Get a mailing tube from one of the Mailing Speciality places or go to a = rug company and get the tube that they roll carpet on. Jim H On 6/3/2006 11:33:24 AM, Eugene Zimmerman (etzim62@earthlink.net) wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Eugene Zimmerman" = <etzim62@earthlink. > net> >=20 > I have a prop I want to list for sale on E-bay but > I'm having a problem finding a box of adaquate size and length to to = ship it. >=20 > It is a 68" diameter Tennessee wood prop. > A 6' > box is what I'm looking for. The UPS store doesn't have anything that = long. >=20 > Any ideas? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Read this topic online here: >=20 > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D38290#38290 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 09:53:12 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: MV2006
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Hi Folks: Great flight out west and home again. Flew 59.6 hours through Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkasas, Mississippi, and finally, Alabama. Mileage was 4,800+ or - a couple hundred miles. Average ground speed was 80 mph despite flying with headwinds for all but a couple days of the flight. 912ULS used no oil during flight, and burned right at 300 gal 100LL. Price of fuel was from 3.20 to 4.60 a gal. Aircraft performed perfectly, as did the engine. Met a lot of great folks and got to visit with some wonderful old friends. MV was best yet. Moab, with John W and Boyd Y, was a lot of fun. Even the dust and wind storm with 50+ winds was a hoot. Primarily, because we got our airplanes and our bodies in a hangar 15 minutes prior to the storm hitting us. The night before, we slept in our tents on the tarmac in a windstorm with our tents tied to our airplanes. All tents survived the night, including occupants. John W and I got to do the $5 tour of a deep underground gold mine near Winnemucca, NV, conducted by my SF friend who is a geologist there. We were sweating, huffing and puffing, 2,250 feet underground as we made our way by foot from the 1500 to the 2,250 ft level. Glad to get on the cage for the return to the surface at the bottom level and not have to climb our way back up. The Rock House, near Rome, OR, with the Cottrells, John W, Arte Trost, Doug, Roger Hankins and all the animals of the Cottrell household, was a hoot. We talked until our jaws hurt. John W and I departed together after we did a low level formation flyby over the Rock House. John W flew west and I flew east to Rigby, ID, to spend a couple days with an old SF friend. Almost forgot, Arte Trost departed Rock House for her home in Western Oregon in her Maxair antique ultralight two days prior to our departure. I took off from Rigby, ID, Wed. Flew over the Tetons and Jackson Hole, WY, direct over the Rockies to Fort Collins, CO. Next day made it to Neosho, MO, and home to Gantt IAP, AL, at 1735 yesterday. Good to be home, but suffering extreme let down after having so much fun for 18 or 19 days. Good to see the List is happy and thriving. ;-) I'll share some photos when I get some time to work on them. Take care, john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 09:53:12 AM PST US
    From: "Rick Pearce" <rap@isp.com>
    Subject: Re: Not a club joiner, but.......
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rick Pearce" <rap@isp.com> John: Your also welcome any time a my strip 0KS8 Pearce field in South East Kansas it is on the sectional. I of course leave the offer open to any KOLBer flying cross country. I have a 40X 60 hanger on a 1700ft north south strip right along the road. I have a few extra vehicles you can use or camp out. You must have flew right over my strip or close to it.As long as I know your coming I can have gas or tell you were the key is to get in the hanger if I'm not there. We met at the Kolb homecoming last year. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:11 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Not a club joiner, but....... > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > > | http://www.airnav.com/airport/18KS > | Rick Girard > > Wish I had known you were there late yesterday afternoon. Probably > flew right over your house. > > Landed at Miami, OK, didn't like the looks of the airport. Took off > again and snook into Neosho, Missouri, just at dark and right behind > the thunderstorm. Had a good night's sleep on the floor of the FBO, > but would have rather stayed at your place. ;-) > > john h > mkIII > >


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    Time: 10:15:19 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Not a club joiner, but.......
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> South East | Kansas it is on the sectional. Thanks Rick. Amazing how close I was to two private strips my last night out. Got you in my "Friends and Airfields" file. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 11:38:39 AM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Shipping a prop?
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> Eugene Zimmerman wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Eugene Zimmerman" <etzim62@earthlink.net> > >I have a prop I want to list for sale on E-bay but I'm having a problem finding a box of adaquate size and length to to ship it. > >It is a 68" diameter Tennessee wood prop. >A 6' box is what I'm looking for. The UPS store doesn't have anything that long. >Any ideas? > The other ideas are good, but the simplest is to just use 2 boxes, open on one end, overlap them in the middle & tape. If it's skinny enough, it might be worth looking at pvc drain pipe.


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    Time: 02:40:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: planecrazzzzzzzzzzzzy
    From: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77@yahoo.com> >From what I have been reading, you need to lighten up wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com Something is wrong when you bash planecrazy for his posts while you post far worse yourself. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38323#38323


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    Time: 02:51:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Shipping a prop?
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> I will have a go.... All of the "free" shipping material that I have ever need is behind the average home furnishings/appliance store... Foam blocks .. foam sheeting, flexible foam covering , bubble wrap etc.. Cardboard that can be shaped into anything... two corners of a refrigeator box make the beginnings of any size box.. Frugal Herb.. On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 11:41:30 -0400 "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net> writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net> > > Get a mailing tube from one of the Mailing Speciality places or go > to a > rug company and get the tube that they roll carpet on. > > Jim H > > On 6/3/2006 11:33:24 AM, Eugene Zimmerman (etzim62@earthlink.net) > wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Eugene Zimmerman" > <etzim62@earthlink. > > net> > > > > I have a prop I want to list for sale on E-bay but > > I'm having a problem finding a box of adaquate size and length to > to > ship it. > > > > It is a 68" diameter Tennessee wood prop. > > A 6' > > box is what I'm looking for. The UPS store doesn't have anything > that > long. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38290#38290 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================== 3D > ========== > > > ======================== 3D > ========== > > > ======================== 3D > ========== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:56:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: joining the BigLar club
    From: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77@yahoo.com> I never said BigLar was not a likeable guy, from the responses posted here he obviously is. That still does not change the fact that he is a fool that could not build a childs leggo set, let alone a Kolb. I still see same excuses by BigLar that I have seen for years, " I travel, I have other things to do .... " its endless. There are many people that have jobs to go to every day that still manage to build thier kolbs in much less time, no excuses. Just look at BigLars trailer fiasco, a simple problem, getting a Kolb in a trailer. Yet Lar is such an idiot, he buys a trailer that is to narrow for his plane, and the resulting fiasco was full of mistakes and and even worse solutions. Anyone with half a brain would have avoided that fiasco from the start. Lar wasted how much time on a very bad idea ? This has been the story since day one with Lar, everything is a problem. Now Lar has a Kolb with the gear so narrow he will probably have ground handling problems. One thing is certain, stupid people always make stupid mistakes... I can take any post on this list and know if its going to be something really stupid or something really great just by looking at who the author is. It never changes, there are idiots here that have constant problems (usually created by themselves) while the few intellgent people here are always solving problems and getting things done. No excuses. I wonder what BigLar's next excuse will be ? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38326#38326


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    Time: 03:17:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Vamoose
    From: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77@yahoo.com> Is it any suprise to anyone that BigLar is having more problems ? I expected nothing less. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38328#38328


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    Time: 03:22:49 PM PST US
    From: "Guy Morgan" <morganguy@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: joining the BigLar club
    I'll take a fool over an asshole any day. FireFly Guy Galveston, TX DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: Max Stanford<mailto:maxstanford77@yahoo.com> To: kolb-list@matronics.com<mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 4:55 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77@yahoo.com<mailto:maxstanford77@yahoo.com>> I never said BigLar was not a likeable guy, from the responses posted here he obviously is. That still does not change the fact that he is a fool that could not build a childs leggo set, let alone a Kolb. I still see same excuses by BigLar that I have seen for years, " I travel, I have other things to do .... " its endless. There are many people that have jobs to go to every day that still manage to build thier kolbs in much less time, no excuses. Just look at BigLars trailer fiasco, a simple problem, getting a Kolb in a trailer. Yet Lar is such an idiot, he buys a trailer that is to narrow for his plane, and the resulting fiasco was full of mistakes and and even worse solutions. Anyone with half a brain would have avoided that fiasco from the start. Lar wasted how much time on a very bad idea ? This has been the story since day one with Lar, everything is a problem. Now Lar has a Kolb with the gear so narrow he will probably have ground handling problems. One thing is certain, stupid people always make stupid mistakes... I can take any post on this list and know if its going to be something really stupid or something really great just by looking at who the author is. It never changes, there are idiots here that have constant problems (usually created by themselves) while the few intellgent people here are always solving problems and getting things done. No excuses. I wonder what BigLar's next excuse will be ? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38326#38326<http://forums.m atronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38326#38326> ========================= ========== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List<http://www.matronics.com/Nav igator?Kolb-List> ========================= ========== ========================= ========== http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi on> ========================= ==========


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    Time: 04:07:12 PM PST US
    From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
    Subject: Hey Big Man Max
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com> What are you adding to the list? How are you helping?


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    Time: 04:53:43 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: List Enclosure Support
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Listers, Over the years, I have resisted the urge to enable enclosure support on the Matronics Lists for a number of reasons relating to performance, capacity, capability, and security. However, its now 2006 and most everyone using email these days is on an email client that, at some level, supports the viewing and handling of enclosures. I get a fair amount of email each month from people on the various Lists asking why their posts of this or that picture didn't go through. Back quite a while ago by popular request, I enabled enclosure support for a few Lists such as the RV10-List, Kolb-List, and the Tailwind-List. Contrary to my fears, there really hasn't been any significant issues on these Lists relating to the advent of enclosure support and for the most part, members have policed themselves well with respect to the size of things they have posted. Having enclosures enabled on some Lists and not others has given me a fair amount of headaches with respect to filtering messages and content since the formats are often quite different between a typical MIME encoded message and a generic plain-text message. The spammers are getting more cleaver all the time and are constantly trying to thwart my best efforts at keeping them from posting to the Lists. So, for these reasons, I've have decided to go ahead and enable limited enclosure posting on all of the email Lists at Matronics. This will not only increase the utility of the Lists, but will afford me a better opportunity to filter out the chaff. Here are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics Lists: 1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the Lists. 2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of the Lists. 3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site. 4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives. 5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature. 6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed: jpg, bmp, gif, txt, xls, pdf, and doc All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk. 7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down the process of posting the message !! Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules could result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists. 1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post 30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these folks and the rest of us, for that matter. 2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000 pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less. Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it! http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx Look for the link "Image Resizer" 3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother. And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even questionable. !! 4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and BE COURTEOUS! I hope everyone will enjoy the added functionality of enclosures. Please police yourself and use good judgement when posting messages with enclosures using the guidelines I've outlined above. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 04:55:02 PM PST US
    From: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: planecrazzzzzzzzzzzzy
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com> Max, Don't know what you have been reading but I've never called anyone a "commie" or threatened them in any way. Far worse??? .... don't know Max ... if you think that being called a commie is ok then I would have to give some serious concideration to where your head may be. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 5:36 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: planecrazzzzzzzzzzzzy > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77@yahoo.com> > >>From what I have been reading, you need to lighten up >>wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com > > Something is wrong when you bash planecrazy for his posts while you post > far worse yourself. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38323#38323 > > >


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    Time: 04:59:43 PM PST US
    From: "Jimmy" <jhankin@planters.net>
    Subject: "Max Stanford"
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jimmy" <jhankin@planters.net> List members,,If ever there was a man that should not listened to on the list it is "Max Stanford", It is obvious he is what he was called on a former post, and is not worth the time and effort to correspond and answer his post. If we just not answer his post, who will he be able to talk to. He doesn't deserve to be a part of this list. What can he contribute to the list, besides who would listen to him. Jimmy Hankinson 912-863-7384 Firefly 035 JYL (Sylvania) Pegasus Field (Home) 2000 Feet X 100 Feet- Grass Rocky Ford, Georgia Do Not Archive -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3070 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len


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    Time: 05:21:37 PM PST US
    Subject: SlingShot Airrame on Ebay
    From: "13brv3" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "13brv3" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Greetings, Here's a link to the ad. It's item number 4646672428 if the pasted link gets messed up. Please email me directly if you have any questions. Cheers, Rusty http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4646672428 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38404#38404


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    Time: 05:22:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Bent my gear
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Hey Guys, Well, I dropped it in today....Flew it down , but pulled back alittle and she went up....then dropped in. I was at a different airfield but I was able to Taxi and take off OK.... I was nervous about landing back at my field.....If I came in too hard I was afraid it would maybe ground loop....I land nice and smooth...No more damage was done... I jacked up the plane and pulled the leg off.... I went by a couple different friends that have a Press....But they weren't home ( nice day ) So, I found some formed channel that I had at home and made a quick press just for the axle.... This is posted ONLY if your interested....If your NOT , I don't really want to hear you cry about it..... Just move on, delete, or whatever... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN . . . -------- . . . . .Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38405#38405 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/axle_press_001_160.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/axle_press_002_859.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/axle_press_004_274.jpg


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    Time: 05:32:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: joining the BigLar club
    From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@columbus.rr.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com> QUOTE: I never said BigLar was not a likeable guy, from the responses posted here he obviously is. That still does not change the fact that he is a fool that could not build a childs leggo set, let alone a Kolb. I still see same excuses by BigLar that I have seen for years, " I travel, I have other things to do .... " its endless. There are many people that have jobs to go to every day that still manage to build thier kolbs in much less time, no excuses. Just look at BigLars trailer fiasco, a simple problem, getting a Kolb in a trailer. Yet Lar is such an idiot, he buys a trailer that is to narrow for his plane, and the resulting fiasco was full of mistakes and and even worse solutions. Anyone with half a brain would have avoided that fiasco from the start. Lar wasted how much time on a very bad idea ? This has been the story since day one with Lar, everything is a problem. Now Lar has a Kolb with the gear so narrow he will probably have ground handling problems. One thing is certain, stupid people always make stupid mistakes... I can take any post on this list and know if its going to be something really stupid or something really great just by looking at who the author is. It never changes, there are idiots here that have constant problems (usually created by themselves) while the few intellgent people here are always solving problems and getting things done. No excuses. I wonder what BigLar's next excuse will be ? Max, you may be right, I dunno (grammatical error intended)! However, This I do know. The symbol of rise (Gain) and drop (loss) in your personal folder, indicates that you may be some form of investor. That or money consumes a great deal of your life. Money management is a really lonely field and may add to your frustrations in dealing with others. If Big Lar trys and fails, he by far higher on my list than any individual who makes money investing my money while belittling others! I wish you the greatest success in making all the money your heart can imagine. I personally would trade all of what I have had for more Lars! And I might add, I have had it "all". The money is one of the worst of the "all's", because with it, you cant tell who your friends are. You must have a great deal of money, for you lack common sense, and possibly any sense of value for your fellow man, as you probably dont have any real friends nor tack. When I was young, I used to tell my dad that I was going over to the bar and drink with my friends. My dad stated that I didnt have any friends at the bar. Since he never went there he had no idea. I said to him dad, I do too have friends at the bar! He said no you dont and Ill prove it. How, I asked? He said dont buy anyone a drink, then you will see who your friends are! I didnt , they weren't and he was right. Max, I hope you have friends outside the Kolb world. Your not buying them drinks are you? By the way, Max, a few tips in spelling and grammar (pun intended): One thing is certain, stupid people always make stupid mistakes. I dont believe that I could add anything of merit to that already profound sentence by one very intelligent individual, such as yourself! a childs leggo........... childs is childs as in ownership or possession there-of. Also, if I may add: thier kolbs........ thier is actually their and kolb is a proper name which should be capitalized. And last but certainly not least: few intellgent people .... intellgent is actually spelled intelligent! You must be a very lonely person to attack a person you hardly (personally) know. That or you are Lar playing the crowd. And if your Lar, I know where you live! And please Max, do not presume that my intent here is to belittle you or anyone else. It is , if nothing more than an effort to show that which you so boldly pointed out to the rest of we Kolbers ....while the few intellgent people here are always solving problems and getting things done. No excuses. MAX- imum sentence for this one Maintaining space and consuming Oxygen and serving no real purpose, in Ohio, Ralph. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38406#38406


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    Time: 05:52:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Where's the love?
    From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@columbus.rr.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com> Guys, Is it the heat? Are some of you gentlemen in need an E.D. medication? Did something crawl up into someone's orifices? Here in Ohio it has rained a great deal, perhaps it could be the lack of flight time or just the humidity, but lets maintain some form of kindness for our fellow brothers. Guys, Guys.....'Where's the Love?" Planecrazy, No one here would dare mess with a man with a dog as big as that one next to you at your plane. Lighten-up! And personally, I am glad you shared your press system with at least me. I hope I never need one, but if so, that will certanly come in handy. But lets drop the bitterness, please. Max, play fare, go home or we take away the toys and send you home to mommy! Lar, I love-ya man! (please note: "That I mean that in a gentlemanly way). Matt, Send out the dogs of war for these poor souls, before they destroy each other. Now I want to see and feel some love here on the Kolb site or I'm gonna buy me a Challenger and hang with a more loving, intellectually stimulating group of men that have nothing to prove in their virile manhood! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38408#38408


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    Time: 06:48:19 PM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
    Subject: Re: joining the BigLar club
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us> Hey bud... Even if what you were saying was true (which it's not) calling someone a "fool" and an "idiot" in public would warrant inviting you outside to rearrange your dental work. It's called "manners" bud...look into it. Jeremy Casey


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    Time: 07:34:13 PM PST US
    From: "ron wehba" <rwehba@cebridge.net>
    Subject: Re: joining the BigLar club
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@cebridge.net> hey max, it has always been hard for me to imagine a total ASSHOLE, but you have made my imagination "imagine" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 4:55 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77@yahoo.com> > > I never said BigLar was not a likeable guy, from the responses posted here > he obviously is. That still does not change the fact that he is a fool > that could not build a childs leggo set, let alone a Kolb. > > I still see same excuses by BigLar that I have seen for years, " I > travel, I have other things to do .... " its endless. There are many > people that have jobs to go to every day that still manage to build thier > kolbs in much less time, no excuses. > > Just look at BigLars trailer fiasco, a simple problem, getting a Kolb in a > trailer. Yet Lar is such an idiot, he buys a trailer that is to narrow > for his plane, and the resulting fiasco was full of mistakes and and even > worse solutions. Anyone with half a brain would have avoided that fiasco > from the start. Lar wasted how much time on a very bad idea ? This has > been the story since day one with Lar, everything is a problem. Now Lar > has a Kolb with the gear so narrow he will probably have ground handling > problems. > > One thing is certain, stupid people always make stupid mistakes... I can > take any post on this list and know if its going to be something really > stupid or something really great just by looking at who the author is. > It never changes, there are idiots here that have constant problems > (usually created by themselves) while the few intellgent people here are > always solving problems and getting things done. No excuses. > > I wonder what BigLar's next excuse will be ? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38326#38326 > > >


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    Time: 08:16:45 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
    Subject: Trying it out Matt
    Gang, MV 2006, I wanted to try out the new enclosures, so here we go! Bob .D. Do not archive


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    Time: 08:20:56 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: joining the BigLar club
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Well, what a miserable son of a bitch of a thing to come home to, after a miserable 113 degree day. Who is this guy, anyway ?? Anybody know anything about him ??.....and no, it's not me playing games with you guys. >From reading this trash, it appears the guy has a vendetta going, but for what I have no idea. I've never heard his name before. The general tone reminds me of kids in a playground. Ignore this jerk and maybe he'll go away, and stay away. Lar. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 2:55 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: joining the BigLar club > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77@yahoo.com> > > I never said BigLar was not a likeable guy, from the responses posted here > he obviously is. That still does not change the fact that he is a fool > that could not build a childs leggo set, let alone a Kolb.


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    Time: 08:44:43 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Trying it out Matt
    Great shots, Bob. I got one almost identical to your 2nd one, but you were a few minutes ahead of me and got better lighting. Coming down the hill, I was looking at what you shot and had signs, wires, etc., etc., in the way and by the time I could shoot it was brighter, and the light wasn't as good. Nice work. I only gave Matt's message a quick once-over. How did you attach the pics ?? Lar. Do not Archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Dalton To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:14 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Trying it out Matt Gang, MV 2006, I wanted to try out the new enclosures, so here we go! Bob .D. Do not archive


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    Time: 08:54:22 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: MV Sunrise
    Let's experiment a bit here, and see if I can figure it out without hand-holding. Here's my original sunrise shot that must've been a few minutes after Bob's, then the cropped version, then one from earlier the next morning before we went on the ATV ride. If this works out, it'll be great. Thanks, Matt ! ! ! Lar. Do not Archive.


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    Time: 08:56:39 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
    Subject: Trying it out Matt
    Hi Larry, Just attach to your email as you would send normally to others. Here are a couple more. Bob D. Do not archive _____ From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bourne Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:44 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trying it out Matt Great shots, Bob. I got one almost identical to your 2nd one, but you were a few minutes ahead of me and got better lighting. Coming down the hill, I was looking at what you shot and had signs, wires, etc., etc., in the way and by the time I could shoot it was brighter, and the light wasn't as good. Nice work. I only gave Matt's message a quick once-over. How did you attach the pics ?? Lar. Do not Archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Dalton <mailto:wiserguy@comcast.net> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:14 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Trying it out Matt Gang, MV 2006, I wanted to try out the new enclosures, so here we go! Bob .D. Do not archive


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    Time: 09:15:09 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Thinking of MV
    My cousin and I were in the MV area for 3 days, and it seems like a blink. Friday, we drove up onto Cedar Mesa near Mexican Hat; Sat was flying and some socializing; Sun we went on an 8 hour ATV tour with a local Navajo guide, and what a trip that was, way into the back country, but we were exhausted when finished. Didn't have a chance to talk to 1/10 of the people I wanted to talk to, and couldn't believe the number of people there, or how fast the time went. I'm only now getting used to the idea of working again. :-) It was great, and it was fun, but honestly........??..........I think I liked it better when it was smaller. Then again, I tend to be somewhat of a hermit at home, so...........?? Kudos to Dave Rains for taking local people for rides. I hope (and bet) we'll see a lot more of that next year. Is "Chuck" monitoring the List ?? The guy with the Dodge dually, who took his camper off, so he could drive around without it ?? I spoke with you at some length about that, and I'm going to try your ideas. Also got some ideas from a guy on the internet that should help in loading it back on, as well. Email me off List if you like. Lar. Do not Archive. P.S. If this amount of attachments gives anyone any problems, please let me know - I'll cut future ones back to 1 or 2. Lar.


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    Time: 10:02:32 PM PST US
    From: FS2Kolb@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Trying it out Matt


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    Time: 11:20:35 PM PST US
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    Subject: MV2006




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