Kolb-List Digest Archive

Tue 06/06/06


Total Messages Posted: 38



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     1. 03:46 AM - Re: Great Weekend (pat ladd)
     2. 05:23 AM - Re: MV06' (Vic Peters)
     3. 05:40 AM - Re: MV06' (robert bean)
     4. 06:05 AM - Re: # 1 Firefly  (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
     5. 06:15 AM - Re: MV06' (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
     6. 07:47 AM - HKS out there looking for a Firestar II (N111KX (Kip))
     7. 08:14 AM - Wheel Camber on a FireFly (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
     8. 08:19 AM - Re: # 1 Firefly  (Jack B. Hart)
     9. 08:33 AM - Re: Great Weekend (Earl & Mim Zimmerman)
    10. 09:11 AM - Re: MV06' Prop spacer (Vic Peters)
    11. 09:15 AM - Re: Wheel Camber on a FireFly (robert bean)
    12. 10:09 AM - KOLB MK-III SEAPLANE NICE (David Key)
    13. 11:17 AM - Re: Kolb Folded wing dolly. (John Bickham)
    14. 11:39 AM - Chris Davis email (Bob Brocious)
    15. 11:50 AM - Re: Kolb Folded wing dolly. (George Alexander)
    16. 12:07 PM - Re: Kolb Folded wing dolly. (Ralph Hoover)
    17. 12:15 PM - Re: Great Weekend (Ralph Hoover)
    18. 02:49 PM - the great "gapsby" (robert bean)
    19. 03:12 PM - Re: Wheel Camber on a FireFly (Jack B. Hart)
    20. 03:56 PM - Re: the great "gapsby"-Iditarod (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
    21. 04:05 PM - Re: # 1 Firefly  (Flycrazy8@aol.com)
    22. 04:07 PM - Re: the great "gapsby" (planecrazzzy)
    23. 04:20 PM - Re: the great "gapsby" (Larry Bourne)
    24. 05:11 PM - Re: Great Weekend (& inconsiderate image posting) (Charlie England)
    25. 05:21 PM - Re: the great "gapsby" (image size) (Charlie England)
    26. 05:27 PM - Re: MV06' (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
    27. 05:49 PM - Re: the great "gapsby" (Vic Peters)
    28. 06:16 PM - Re: MV06' (Bob Dalton)
    29. 06:16 PM - Re: MV06' (Larry Bourne)
    30. 06:24 PM - Re: the great "gapsby" (Bob Dalton)
    31. 06:32 PM - Re: List Enclosure Support (Eugene Zimmerman)
    32. 07:43 PM - Re: List Enclosure Support (Matt Dralle)
    33. 07:43 PM - Re: Great Weekend (& inconsiderate image posting) (Richard Pike)
    34. 08:14 PM - Re: Great Weekend (& inconsiderate image posting) (David Key)
    35. 08:15 PM - Ultrastar on ebay (Richard Pike)
    36. 08:17 PM - Re: List Enclosure Support (Jim Baker)
    37. 08:29 PM - Tauidragger Toe In/Out (frank & margie)
    38. 09:13 PM - Re: Tauidragger Toe In/Out (Jack B. Hart)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:46:53 AM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Great Weekend
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> The first ( pic)on the ground, and the 2d about 1000' over eastern PA. (look past the Norton bombsight...>> Hi Charlie, nice pics. Lucky guy. The undernose gun turret (which makes it a B-17G) was added to deter German fighter pilots who were breaking up the USAAF box formations by attacking head on. A pretty gutsy manouvre if you ask me. The bombsight, with which the USAAF boasted they could `drop a bomb in a pickle barrel from 20,000ft` was the NORDEN not Norton. Picky, picky. Incidentaly they couldn`t. In fact they were no better with bombing accuracy than the RAF which was pretty awful until quite late in the war. That is apart from the specialist low level Mosquito squadrons which flew up the main street and tossed a bomb through the front door of the SS Headquarters in the Hague to destroy their records. They also pinpointed some bombs onto the Prison at Amien in `Operation Jericho`. They blew up the German guards mess hall, blew open the cells and knocked a hole in the prison wall through which dozens of prisoners escaped. Including one Resistance leader who knew the invasion date, which was why the raid was laid on . I saw the repair in the prison wall when I went past the prison on a visit to the trenches and few years ago. The Canadian Lancaster is painted in the colours and markings of a plane which flew from an airfield about 10 miles from my home. She was delivered to the airfield as brand new on D-Day, 6th June, did about 7 raids into France and was shot down around the 20th. She had a crew of Canadians including Mynarski, the upper turret gunner. During her bombing run the plane was hit and caught fire and the bale out order was given. Mynarsky came down from his turret to bale out and found the rear gunners turret had jammed, trapping the gunner. The turret had to be aligned fore and aft for the gunner to enter or leave. Hydraulics were out and the turret couldn`t be turned. Mynarski went through the flames to try to get the gunner out but failed. The gunner told him to get out while he could and he eventually went back through the flames and jumped out. Watchers on the ground said he came out in a ball of flame. All the crew died in he crash, except the rear gunner, whose turret detached and he survived. The Canadian Lanc is maintained as a memorial to all the Canucks lost in the air war in Europe. In the UK we have the only other flying Lanc in the world as part of the Battle of Britain Flight, which also includes a Spit and a Hurricane. We also have J for Jane which is a Lanc which cannot fly as she needs a new main spar (1 Million pounds sterling) but does taxi runs . I managed to get on one of those a couple of years ago. In fact it isn`t so much a `run` as a creep but being inside the fuselage with those four Merlins roaring just feet away is certainly thrilling. Forgive the non Kolb post but I think most flyers are interested in flying generally, not just what pertains to their own type of machine. Cheers Pat do not archive --


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    Time: 05:23:33 AM PST US
    From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: MV06'
    Nice pic's Bob. Is that your Kolb or someone else? I'd like to ask a couple questions about prop spacer and gap seal fairing. Thanks Vic N40KX 912UL Maine


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    Time: 05:40:23 AM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: MV06'
    Hi Vic, That's mine. Understandable, lot's of Bobs around. -More than one Vic too. No prop spacer. Clearance is ok with the Raven redrive. I have the fabric "ceiling" over the gas tank area plus the sheet metal fairing above that. I guess I should try to take a pic of the windshield-to-metal area. -ask away, but the weather is perfect here this morning and I'm heading out. BB On 6, Jun 2006, at 8:21 AM, Vic Peters wrote: > Nice pic's Bob. > Is that your Kolb or someone else? > I'd like to ask a couple questions about prop spacer and gap seal > fairing. > - > Thanks Vic > N40KX 912UL > Maine


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    Time: 06:05:33 AM PST US
    From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
    Subject: Re: # 1 Firefly
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com> HEY EVERYBODY ! THE FIRST FIRE FLY WAS SOLD ON 4 - 10 - 1995 TRAVIS @ KOLB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 9:53 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: # 1 Firefly > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> > > At 07:03 PM 6/5/06 EDT, you wrote: > > Does anyone know when the First > >Firefly kit was sold ? (sorry no prize > >for the correct answer ) Jim in Rocky > >Ford seems to have # 35 Firefly in > >1998. I have the # 35 Firefly in 2003 . > >.... Kolb seems to start over every > >year with the I D #. What say You ? > >Stephen Kolb Firefly 03035 > > Stephen, > > The cashier's check for FF004 was dated May 18, 1995. > Received Kit A before September 14, 1995 > Kit C was shipped October, 12, 1995 > I was a little slow getting it together so its first > flight was 09/09/99. > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN > >


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    Time: 06:15:35 AM PST US
    From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: MV06'
    Bob, Thanks for the pics...they're Grrrreatttt! AzDave Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Dalton To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 5:52 PM Subject: Kolb-List: MV06' Good evening all, I would like to post a couple more MV06' pictures, hope all is well with everyone. Thanks again for all your friendships and years of fun on the list. As someone had mentioned earlier, I look forward to reading the "Kolb" list each and every day. Take care, Bob D. Do not archive


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    Time: 07:47:04 AM PST US
    Subject: HKS out there looking for a Firestar II
    From: "N111KX (Kip)" <n111kx@mindspring.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "N111KX (Kip)" <n111kx@mindspring.com> This may be old news but Jerry at Green Sky Adventures is looking for a FS II as a testbed for an HKS install. You may contact him for the details but there is a cost savings involved. I considered it but cannot quite justify it for a couple of reasons. One it is pricey compared to the 503 (but may pay for itself over time with gas and overhaul costs). And, it will gain a few pounds possibly aft and my light butt already operates at the aft limit. http://www.greenskyadventures.com Smiles included as this is a happy post with no attacks... :D :D :D :D :D -------- Kip Firestar II (born September 2000) Atlanta, GA N111KX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38948#38948


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    Time: 08:14:43 AM PST US
    From: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    Subject: Wheel Camber on a FireFly
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> << Since I bent a landing gear leg ... The straightened leg survived another landing on a rough grass field, ... Jack B. Hart >> Jack - I did not know you could straighten the stock (alum) Kolb gear legs in place. Thanks for sharing your idea - I need to do the same on my Mark-III. One of my gear legs is showing signs of slight bending, and I was thinking of removing it to straighten it. Your jack-and-lever idea should work for a Mark-III, wouldn't you think? Dennis Kirby New Mexico


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    Time: 08:19:53 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: # 1 Firefly
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> At 09:08 AM 6/6/06 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com> > > HEY EVERYBODY ! >THE FIRST FIRE FLY WAS SOLD ON 4 - 10 - 1995 > > >TRAVIS @ KOLB So! What is the rest of the story? What serial number? Where did it go? If possible, who bought it? Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 08:33:13 AM PST US
    From: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
    Subject: Re: Great Weekend
    Charles Davis wrote: > Well, I didn't pilot, but I got to fly...if the pictures come through, > they are of the nose of a B17. The first on the ground, and the 2d > about 1000' over eastern PA. (look past the Norton bombsight...). We > also got to see a Canadian Lancaster fly, one of only 2 in the world. > I see in Sport Aviation that it'll be at Air Venture, and I would > recommend it. > > To keep this Kolb related: on the to the way to the Reading, PA WWII > Weekend Airshow, we stopped at KPTW for the EAA chapter's annual > pancake breakfast, and were pleased to find Homer enjoying the food > and the sights. He confirmed that he is tinkering with some designs > for multi-engined single and 2 place planes, but only for his own > enjoyment. > > Chuck > Malvern, PA > Firefly I was flying on Sunday and the B17 past me on the way back to Reading. He was flying at 2000 MSL. ~ Earl


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    Time: 09:11:41 AM PST US
    From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: MV06' Prop spacer
    Hey Bob, I don't know what a Raven redrive is. I have the stock 912ul 2 point whatever.It looks like I'm going to have about 5" from prop to trailing edge of the aileron tube without a spacer. Don't think I need one unless there is some other reason for a spacer a novice like myself wouldn't know about. There are a couple of us at least on this list that would like to see a pic of that fiberglass fairing on the leading edge of your gap seal. I'll even buy the film as long as you have a digital camera. Thanks! Vic N40KX 912ul Maine


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    Time: 09:15:04 AM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Wheel Camber on a FireFly
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> Dennis, The stock aluminum MkIII leg is a pretty strong piece. Take my word for it, it takes a BUNCH of pressure to restraighten. -You would damage the plane before correcting any curvature. Take it out if really necessary. Even a perfect leg will show some flex with the normal aircraft weight on it. Mine has some but they match. :) I think I dropped it in from 3 feet recently with no problem. -BB, MkIII, suzuki G10, 48.7hrs. On 6, Jun 2006, at 11:13 AM, Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL > <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > > << Since I bent a landing gear leg ... The straightened leg survived > another landing on a rough grass field, ... Jack B. Hart >> > > Jack - > > I did not know you could straighten the stock (alum) Kolb gear legs in > place. Thanks for sharing your idea - I need to do the same on my > Mark-III. > > > One of my gear legs is showing signs of slight bending, and I was > thinking > of removing it to straighten it. Your jack-and-lever idea should work > for a > Mark-III, wouldn't you think? > > Dennis Kirby > New Mexico > >


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    Time: 10:09:36 AM PST US
    From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
    Subject: KOLB MK-III SEAPLANE NICE
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com> Gordie Saum as me to post that his plane is for sale. The Kolb is back on the market if you are interested $26,000 with the trailer. You can reach him at gksaum@starband.net for photos.


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    Time: 11:17:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb Folded wing dolly.
    From: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net> Not the same colors, so probably not the same design. Steven Green had posted a nice design to the old photoshare a while back. http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/sgreenpg@bellsouth.net.02.05.2005/ Steven is pretty talented and always willing to help. Fun to fly with too. Hope this is of some help. Do not archive. -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C &quot;Using my Repairman Certificate&quot; St. Francisville, LA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38984#38984


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    Time: 11:39:33 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Brocious" <bbrocious@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Chris Davis email
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Brocious" <bbrocious@hotmail.com> I sent Chris an email to the address he used back in November. It was returned as undeliverable. Anybody have a new one? Kob Mark III "Miss B" Bob Brocious Tenacity Farm Carrollton, Kentucky


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    Time: 11:50:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb Folded wing dolly.
    From: "George Alexander" <gtalexander@att.net>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Alexander" <gtalexander@att.net> Ralph: You may be thinking of Dennis Kirby's rig. Go to my website at: http://gtalexander.home.att.net Then click on "Trailering a Kolb". Dennis' is the last one on the list. His email is in the listing (you'll have to replace the (at) with the @ sign. Hope this helps. Ralph Hoover wrote: > Someone in the past posted some pictures of their Kolb side-by-side with wings folded and a dolly which cradled the wings and the main tube. The plane was White with Green and Purple. I would like to get some more info on this, such as dimensions. The base tube appears to be 2" square steel and the supports appear to be White PVC somewhere around 4" cut in half. I tried the search using "dolly", "tube", and other words with no success. So someone wouldn't thing I had a hankerin of lazy about me. > > Any help out there. I want to make one. > > Likin-what-I-see here from Ohio Ralph -------- George Alexander http://gtalexander.home.att.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38989#38989


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    Time: 12:07:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb Folded wing dolly.
    From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@columbus.rr.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com> George and John, Both, Thank you. I believe it was the Dennis Kirby's rig. It looks "cheaper" to me (sorry Dennis, but cheap is what I need right now). I have contacted Dennis with a request to get me some details so that I may build one. I certanly like the Stenev Greene unit quite well. I'm just not that gifted welding wise nor monitarly to build that one for myself. I need something that I can use to take my folded plane from the hanger (cost is $50.00 filded -$ 125.00 unfolded). Right now I have more time (unfold and then refold) than I do money. Pooh-boy Ralph in Ohio! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38995#38995


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    Time: 12:15:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Great Weekend
    From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@columbus.rr.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com> Pat Ladd wrote: All the crew died in the crash, except the rear gunner, whose turret detached and he survived. Now Pat, that is really an aussome story. Thank you. So is the mess hall bomb. I know how much der Germans like their crout und pork! YA? Half German, half Itilian Ralph of Ohio....Now you all know TOO MUCH! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=38997#38997


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    Time: 02:49:11 PM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: the great "gapsby"
    Vic, here's some pics. My feeling was that since the center section doesn't really provide any lift, why not funnel some air to the prop. That tall engine and radiator blocks enough air but at least some gets distributed evenly. Fairings are in my imagination but not likely to be as fancy as uncle Craig's. Today's flying was super. -also non eventful. (mumble mumble) -BB DSCN0794.JPG DSCN0795.JPG DSCN0796.JPG


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    Time: 03:12:30 PM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: Wheel Camber on a FireFly
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> At 04:13 PM 6/6/06 +0100, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > ><< Since I bent a landing gear leg ... The straightened leg survived >another landing on a rough grass field, ... Jack B. Hart >> > >Jack - > >I did not know you could straighten the stock (alum) Kolb gear legs in >place. Thanks for sharing your idea - I need to do the same on my Mark-III. > > >One of my gear legs is showing signs of slight bending, and I was thinking >of removing it to straighten it. Your jack-and-lever idea should work for a >Mark-III, wouldn't you think? > Dennis, The leg was straightened before the camber was set. When adjusting the camber, you are bending the 5/8 inch OD steel tube that is the FireFly axle, not the leg. Sorry for the confusion. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 03:56:47 PM PST US
    Subject: the great "gapsby"-Iditarod
    From: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" <rp3420@freescale.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" <rp3420@freescale.com> Robert, This is uncle Craig's nephew...Milo. Wow, what a neat and clean gap seal, it's this kind of stuff that I love about this list. Reading your previous post I imagined what you were describing, but to see the pictures in the last post....WOW, I really like it and think it's very cleaver! Uncle Craig's gap seal took many man hours to engineer and build. At times I wish the "fancy" would have been "simple" and we would be flying much sooner. On another note: I finally named my Firestar II plane. The official name is "Iditarod". Some folks at MV heard the reason for the name. Kinda crazy story, but over the years as I would erect the plane in front of the house, people all over would stop and ask questions about the project. Uncle Craig and would laugh afterwards on some of the comments such as, "what is that, a helicopter"? Or "what is that, a wet sub"? OR my favorite and most unique question to me personally, "what is that, a dog sled?" I thought, Dog sled? My knees went weak, and I held back the outburst, and had fun with the question and nodded "yes, it's my Iditarod sled I'm preparing for this winter"....... There was a few other questions about where I keep the huskies, here in Arizona or elsewhere??????? The following day- I shared this experience with uncle Craig and we couldn't stop laughing- A fully enclosed Iditarod sled designed and made the hottest desert in North America......so there you have it... Good times, that is what this Kolb family has given me. Currently test flying uncle Craigs plane, mine soon to follow. Take care, Tim Gherkins Firestar II "Iditarod" 503DCDI-3blade Powerfin-BRS750- our website- www.milows.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of robert bean Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: Kolb-List: the great "gapsby" Vic, here's some pics. My feeling was that since the center section doesn't really provide any lift, why not funnel some air to the prop. That tall engine and radiator blocks enough air but at least some gets distributed evenly. Fairings are in my imagination but not likely to be as fancy as uncle Craig's. Today's flying was super. -also non eventful. (mumble mumble) -BB


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    Time: 04:05:24 PM PST US
    From: Flycrazy8@aol.com
    Subject: Re: # 1 Firefly
    CC: jhankin@planters.net <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com> HEY EVERYBODY ! THE FIRST FIRE FLY WAS SOLD ON 4 - 10 - 1995 TRAVIS @ KOLB Way to Go Travis.....Many thanks to Herb and Jack B...... I'm like Jack ...very curious who bought the first and where it went ?......Can Travis @ Kolb come thru with all the Answers ? Stay tuned to this Same ""Bat " Channel Same "Bat "Station :-) Stephen Kolb Firefly 03035


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    Time: 04:07:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: the great "gapsby"
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> I'm sure those "dams" help keep the air from spilling off the wings, which should help quite a bit... That was one of the problems of flying without the gapseal...not just the gap, but the lift lost from "spilling" into that area.... Looks good Bob, glad to see pictures... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN -------- . . . . .Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=39046#39046


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    Time: 04:20:20 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: the great "gapsby"
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> You sure did a nice job, Bob. Do not Archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 2:46 PM Subject: Kolb-List: the great "gapsby" > Vic, here's some pics. My feeling was that since the center section > doesn't really > provide any lift, why not funnel some air to the prop. > That tall engine and radiator blocks enough air but at least some gets > distributed evenly. > Fairings are in my imagination but not likely to be as fancy as uncle > Craig's. > > Today's flying was super. -also non eventful. (mumble mumble) > -BB > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > DSCN0794.JPG > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > DSCN0795.JPG > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > DSCN0796.JPG > > >


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    Time: 05:11:38 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Great Weekend (& inconsiderate image posting)
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> Earl & Mim Zimmerman wrote: > Charles Davis wrote: > >> Well, I didn't pilot, but I got to fly...if the pictures come through, >> they are of the nose of a B17. The first on the ground, and the 2d >> about 1000' over eastern PA. (look past the Norton bombsight...). We >> also got to see a Canadian Lancaster fly, one of only 2 in the world. >> I see in Sport Aviation that it'll be at Air Venture, and I would >> recommend it. >> >> To keep this Kolb related: on the to the way to the Reading, PA WWII >> Weekend Airshow, we stopped at KPTW for the EAA chapter's annual >> pancake breakfast, and were pleased to find Homer enjoying the food >> and the sights. He confirmed that he is tinkering with some designs >> for multi-engined single and 2 place planes, but only for his own >> enjoyment. >> >> Chuck >> Malvern, PA >> Firefly > > > I was flying on Sunday and the B17 past me on the way back to Reading. > He was flying at 2000 MSL. ~ Earl PLEEEEEASE show a little courtesy to those of us who can't get broadband. This one email took almost 10 minutes to download. Matt's notice tells you how to get a *free* software package that will reduce image size for you with just a couple of mouse clicks. Note that he says to keep image size under 200k, preferably much less*. Quote: Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules could result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists. 1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post 30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these folks and the rest of us, for that matter. 2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000 pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less. Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it! http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx Look for the link "Image Resizer" 3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother. And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even questionable. !! 4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and BE COURTEOUS! unquote


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    Time: 05:21:29 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: the great "gapsby" (image size)
    robert bean wrote: > Vic, here's some pics. My feeling was that since the center section > doesn't really > provide any lift, why not funnel some air to the prop. > That tall engine and radiator blocks enough air but at least some gets > distributed evenly. > Fairings are in my imagination but not likely to be as fancy as uncle > Craig's. > > Today's flying was super. -also non eventful. (mumble mumble) > -BB Same images, using the recommended image resizer set to 'small'. Total combined image size for all 3 images is about the same as *one* of the original images. Please, please, please re-read Matt's posting recommendations.


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    Time: 05:27:18 PM PST US
    From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: MV06'
    Hey Bob Is that Uncle Craig's airplane? Can anyone explain the modifications. I don't see the cowling for the engine but I see a bunch of ribs at the wing tip and maybe more than normal on the wings. Looks like Jim Clayton and John Williamson in the plane. Do I understand Craig is flight testing? Did Jim Clayton bring his plane what is the status of his plane? I really miss not attending this year. Do not archive Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Dalton To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 8:52 PM Subject: Kolb-List: MV06' Good evening all, I would like to post a couple more MV06' pictures, hope all is well with everyone. Thanks again for all your friendships and years of fun on the list. As someone had mentioned earlier, I look forward to reading the "Kolb" list each and every day. Take care, Bob D. Do not archive


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    Time: 05:49:55 PM PST US
    From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: the great "gapsby"
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net> Well Bob I agree with everyone real nice job and idea. Problem is thats not the plane In the pic I was looking at. Thanks for your time anyway. So, your not really Bob or I replied to the wrong one. Would the real Bob, WITH a gap seal please stand up! Got it! Richards reply mentions Bob D. Yeah thats the ticket, Bob D. come on down. Do you have pic's of that Kolb in the pic's you posted that would show more detail of the fiberglass piece in front of or actually included in the gap seal? Vic, I think N40KX 912ul Maine --


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    Time: 06:16:02 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
    Subject: MV06'
    Rick, Yes it is Uncle Craig's plane; great guy had a good conversation with him. If I remember correctly he forgot the cowling but it still looked great. I cannot speak of any mod's as I do not know what all has been done. It is John W. and Jim C. in the plane, Jim had wanted to sit in it to remember how the cage felt since he had not been in his for awhile. Maybe Tim G. can follow up with a description of the mod's. Uncle Craig is if I remember correctly getting ready for flight testing soon. Take care, Bob D. Do not archive _____ From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard & Martha Neilsen Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:26 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV06' Hey Bob Is that Uncle Craig's airplane? Can anyone explain the modifications. I don't see the cowling for the engine but I see a bunch of ribs at the wing tip and maybe more than normal on the wings. Looks like Jim Clayton and John Williamson in the plane. Do I understand Craig is flight testing? Did Jim Clayton bring his plane what is the status of his plane? I really miss not attending this year. Do not archive Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Dalton <mailto:wiserguy@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 8:52 PM Subject: Kolb-List: MV06' Good evening all, I would like to post a couple more MV06' pictures, hope all is well with everyone. Thanks again for all your friendships and years of fun on the list. As someone had mentioned earlier, I look forward to reading the "Kolb" list each and every day. Take care, Bob D. Do not archive


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    Time: 06:16:02 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: MV06'
    I told ya so...........I told ya so.......! ! ! :-) Do not Archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard & Martha Neilsen To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV06' I really miss not attending this year. Do not archive Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc


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    Time: 06:24:36 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
    Subject: the great "gapsby"
    Vic, Is this the plane with the gap seal you are interested in? If so it is Uncle Craig's, I do not think he posts on the list much but Tim Gherkins can speak for him and his mod's. Tim, you out there? Bob D. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vic Peters Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: the great "gapsby" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net> Well Bob I agree with everyone real nice job and idea. Problem is thats not the plane In the pic I was looking at. Thanks for your time anyway. So, your not really Bob or I replied to the wrong one. Would the real Bob, WITH a gap seal please stand up! Got it! Richards reply mentions Bob D. Yeah thats the ticket, Bob D. come on down. Do you have pic's of that Kolb in the pic's you posted that would show more detail of the fiberglass piece in front of or actually included in the gap seal? Vic, I think N40KX 912ul Maine --


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    Time: 06:32:59 PM PST US
    Cc: dralle@matronics.com
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: List Enclosure Support
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net> Matt, Is it possible to put on a filter that will reject large attachment files that cause problems for the guys with slow dial-up connections? Good intentions are sometimes inadequate and a large files are sometimes posted accidently.


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    Time: 07:43:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: List Enclosure Support
    From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> Limiting incoming enclosure size can usually be done in most Email Clients - e.g. "Skip messages larger that xxxxKB". That being said, stay tuned as I'm investigating a method that will automatically put the enclosures up on the Matronics web server and replace them in the email witha URL link to the same. Should be the cool setup. Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin -------- Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=39097#39097


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    Time: 07:43:26 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Great Weekend (& inconsiderate image posting)
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Need some help here - I went to the link, downloaded the program, and watched my computer install it. I cannot find that varmint anywhere. I have been poking through files and folders for about 45 minutes, - where is the program found? Or the executable? Or what is it called? Thanks, Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive Charlie England wrote: > <snip> > Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows > you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically > scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, > use it! > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx > > Look for the link "Image Resizer" > <snip>


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    Time: 08:14:48 PM PST US
    From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Great Weekend (& inconsiderate image posting)
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com> After you install it from the web you can right mouse click on a photo type file the menu will show you a Resize Pictures item that will automaticly run the exe for the file you choose. >From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Great Weekend (& inconsiderate image posting) >Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 22:42:30 -0400 > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> > >Need some help here - I went to the link, downloaded the program, and >watched my computer install it. > >I cannot find that varmint anywhere. I have been poking through files and >folders for about 45 minutes, - where is the program found? Or the >executable? Or what is it called? > >Thanks, >Richard Pike >MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > >do not archive > >Charlie England wrote: >><snip> >> Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows >> you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically >>scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it! >> >>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx >> >> Look for the link "Image Resizer" >><snip> > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >http://wiki.matronics.com > >


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    Time: 08:15:18 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Ultrastar on ebay
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Ultrastar on ebay, type in "ultralight aircraft" it is currently next to last on the page that pops open. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive


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    Time: 08:17:14 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@msbit.net>
    Subject: Re: List Enclosure Support
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@msbit.net> > Is it possible to put on a filter that will reject large attachment > files that cause problems for the guys with slow dial-up connections? For those of you using Outlook... Located under TOOLS, OPTIONS, MAIL SETUP tab, SEND/RECEIVE, and then EDIT the mail group settings....sounds difficult but is easy once you find it. Jim Baker 580.788.2779 Elmore City, OK


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    Time: 08:29:51 PM PST US
    From: "frank & margie" <frank-margie@worldnet.att.net>
    Subject: Tauidragger Toe In/Out
    Ref Jim's info: ------------------- > I always set camber at 7 degrees with the weight of the aircraft on the > wheels. > When you set your skinny or fat butt in the aircraft you have about 0 to 2 degrees camber. > I always use 0 degrees toe in or toe out. > > Jim Hauck --------------------------------------------------- Are there published spec's for Kolb toe and camber settings? EAA has published some good info on toe in/out, basically saying that taildraggers are better off with toe out. According to the article(s), toe out helps prevent ground looping, because the slight outward bias keeps the machine going straight. Especially when the weight shifts to one side, that tire will resist the aircraft turning in the opposite direction (it would turn toward the other side if it had toe in). (This was mentioned on The List a while back, but I don't believe that discussion reached any conclusion.) We cured a bad case of squirrelly ground handling (in a taildragger ultralight) by changing the original toe in condition to toe out. We were supprised at how much difference it made, it was much more than we expected. Based on that experience, we have been true believers in toe out for taildraggers. Which is why we were confused when we were shown manufacturer's literature that specifies toe IN for some standard cert taildraggers, specifically Cessna 140 and Stearman. And we've been told that many other standard cert taildraggers also specify toe IN for the factory settings. Now we're REALLY confused. Can any of the technically astute folks on this list shed any light on the subject? Thanks, Frank Clyma Orange Park, FL


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    Time: 09:13:32 PM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: Tauidragger Toe In/Out
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> From: "frank & margie" <frank-margie@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Tauidragger Toe In/Out Sender: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at onlyinternet.net ............................................... Now we're REALLY confused. Can any of the technically astute folks on this list shed any light on the subject? ............................................... Frank, May be some question about being astute, but I believe the FireFly does well without toe-in or toe-out because the cg is almost directly above the line passing through the center of the wheels. This design feature makes the FireFly easier to turn while on the ground. Now comes the BUT. But it has a tendency to make the FireFly more unstable due to weight shifts or side wind loads while taxiing if there is toe-in or toe-out. As for why you would want to use toe-in or toe-out, I don't know the answer. It does keep you busy on the rudder pedals. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN




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