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1. 06:36 AM - firefly wanted (RICHARD BUTLER)
2. 07:09 AM - Re: firefly wanted ()
3. 07:09 AM - Re: firefly wanted (Travis Brown)
4. 09:09 AM - Re: firefly wanted, enclosures (Kirk Smith)
5. 10:31 AM - 1985 Firestar for sale (Richard Pike)
6. 11:12 AM - Re: firefly wanted, enclosures (FS2Kolb@aol.com)
7. 11:59 AM - Re: firefly wanted, enclosures (robert bean)
8. 12:42 PM - Re: firefly wanted, enclosures (Chris Mallory)
9. 01:02 PM - Re: firefly wanted, enclosures (RICHARD BUTLER)
10. 01:04 PM - Re: firefly wanted, enclosures (Ed Chmielewski)
11. 01:10 PM - Re: firefly wanted, enclosures (FS2Kolb@aol.com)
12. 01:14 PM - Attachments (J.D. Stewart)
13. 01:23 PM - DSL to dial-up (Richard Pike)
14. 01:42 PM - Re: Attachments (Matt Dralle)
15. 01:48 PM - Re: Attachments (Jim Baker)
16. 02:02 PM - enclosures ()
17. 02:58 PM - Re: enclosures (Chris Mallory)
18. 03:03 PM - Re: Attachments (Richard Pike)
19. 03:03 PM - Re: Re: firefly wanted, enclosures (Kirk Smith)
20. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: firefly wanted, enclosures (RICHARD BUTLER)
21. 03:24 PM - Re: enclosures (Guillermo Uribe)
22. 03:52 PM - Re: Attachments (Kirk Smith)
23. 04:30 PM - Re: Attachments (Larry Bourne)
24. 05:14 PM - Taildragger Toe (frank & margie)
25. 05:14 PM - Taildragger Toe (frank & margie)
26. 05:16 PM - FireFly Nose Over on Landing (Jack B. Hart)
27. 05:20 PM - Re: Non-Kolb for sale (Kirk Smith)
28. 07:13 PM - Re: firefly wanted, enclosures (John Hauck)
29. 09:46 PM - Re: Non-Kolb for sale (Richard Pike)
30. 10:00 PM - Re: Attachments (Richard Pike)
31. 10:15 PM - Re: firefly wanted, enclosures (Jerry Deckard)
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Looking for firefly project or completed. As close to P103 as possible.
Location not an issue.
Richard Butler, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: firefly wanted |
Cc: RICHARD BUTLER <RICHARDBUTLERS@msn.com>
I have one that was never for sale but I will sell it. I just got it 2 month ago
I have it on it's landing gear with rudder completed. I have complete kit's
1 and 2 with big tires. I live in Phoenix, AZ close to Deer Valley airport.
Have all receipts from factory. Hear are some pictures
--
Rob.
---- RICHARD BUTLER <RICHARDBUTLERS@msn.com> wrote:
> Looking for firefly project or completed. As close to P103 as possible.
> Location not an issue.
> Richard Butler, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: firefly wanted |
RICHARD PLEASE CALL TRAVIS @ KOLB 606 862 9692
----- Original Message -----
From: RICHARD BUTLER
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:33 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: firefly wanted
Looking for firefly project or completed. As close to P103 as
possible.
Location not an issue.
Richard Butler, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: firefly wanted, enclosures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Well , it looks like after 8 years on the Kolblist I'm going to have to
block them from my email. These 10 minute downloads of pics are too long for
my dial up. This last one should have been sent bc.
----- Original Message -----
From: <jeepacro@cox.net>
Cc: "RICHARD BUTLER" <RICHARDBUTLERS@msn.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly wanted
> I have one that was never for sale but I will sell it. I just got it 2
month ago I have it on it's landing gear with rudder completed. I have
complete kit's 1 and 2 with big tires. I live in Phoenix, AZ close to Deer
Valley airport. Have all receipts from factory. Hear are some pictures
> --
> Rob.
>
> ---- RICHARD BUTLER <RICHARDBUTLERS@msn.com> wrote:
> > Looking for firefly project or completed. As close to P103 as possible.
> > Location not an issue.
> > Richard Butler, AZ
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| Subject: | 1985 Firestar for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Several weeks ago I put a notice on the list that a local friend was
selling his Firestar, but apparently the phone number didn't work.
Here it is again, new number -
1985 (?) Firestar, Rotax 447, 5 rib wing.
Call Sherrill Phillips
1-423-737-7317
1 423-257-3280
In NE Tennessee, wants $6500
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: firefly wanted, enclosures |
I agree, that was totally inconsiderate by sending such a large file.
In a message dated 6/8/2006 10:10:48 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
snuffy@usol.com writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Well , it looks like after 8 years on the Kolblist I'm going to have to
block them from my email. These 10 minute downloads of pics are too long for
my dial up. This last one should have been sent bc.
----- Original Message -----
From: <jeepacro@cox.net>
Cc: "RICHARD BUTLER" <RICHARDBUTLERS@msn.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly wanted
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| Subject: | Re: firefly wanted, enclosures |
I doubt whether ill intentions were at heart in those photo attachments.
There are those of us who are not that savvy regarding pixels and photo
sizing.
-Myself included. I thought resizing would be enough but Lar informed
me
otherwise. In the future I will try to economize.
Meanwhile, if you don't want to tie up your machine you could read the
messages from the website.
-BB
like everything else, sometimes extra features have a downside.
On 8, Jun 2006, at 2:11 PM, FS2Kolb@aol.com wrote:
>
> I agree, that was totally inconsiderate-by sending-such a large
file.
> -
> -
> In a message dated 6/8/2006 10:10:48 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> snuffy@usol.com writes:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>>
>> Well , it looks like after 8 years on the Kolblist I'm going to have
>> to
>> block them from my email. These 10 minute downloads of pics are too
>> long for
>> my dial up. This last one should have been sent bc.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <jeepacro@cox.net>
>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>> Cc: "RICHARD BUTLER" <RICHARDBUTLERS@msn.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly wanted-
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| Subject: | Re: firefly wanted, enclosures |
You know, I can't believe that someone on this list thoughtful enough to
share some pictures with everyone and you or anyone else has the gall to
call them inconsiderate.
Are you the last two guys on the planet with dial up?
If you can afford an airplane you can certainly afford to upgrade from
twentieth century technology.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: FS2Kolb@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly wanted, enclosures
I agree, that was totally inconsiderate by sending such a large file.
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| Subject: | Re: firefly wanted, enclosures |
Well isn't this interesting!
While I'm the one who put out the request for a "wanted fly"
and am not responsible for the "large" pictures.
In support of the person who sent the pictures to me... and all of you
let you give you my view:
I appreciated the pictures
I'm excited about the Firefly and ultralights
I am a private SE Seaplane pilot myself
My interest in ultralights is 10+ years old
So now the question that jumps out...
while sending large files is annoying
Is it better to gather a new to ultralight pilot like myself
or to complain about your personal internet connection on a site
dedicated to the furtherance of the future of ultralights.
It would be a shame for anyone to discontinue their Kolb digest
subscription because their computer is slow.
Looking forward to seeing you all
R Butler
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| Subject: | Re: firefly wanted, enclosures |
Chris,
Whoa, there! Who said it's even available in their area? I
moved from the city to the country, from DSL to dial-up. Our only phone
provider, Verizon, won't upgrade.
And if someone's savvy enough to operate a digital camera and
post pics to the 'Interweb', they should be able to resize to 640 x 480
with ease. I and many others would appreciate it !
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Mallory
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly wanted, enclosures
You know, I can't believe that someone on this list thoughtful enough
to share some pictures with everyone and you or anyone else has the gall
to call them inconsiderate.
Are you the last two guys on the planet with dial up?
If you can afford an airplane you can certainly afford to upgrade from
twentieth century technology.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: FS2Kolb@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly wanted, enclosures
I agree, that was totally inconsiderate by sending such a large
file.
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| Subject: | Re: firefly wanted, enclosures |
I can't believe you didn't read what I wrote. I did not say it was
inconsiderate sharing some pictures. I enjoy looking at pictures posted on the
list.
What I said was it is inconsiderate for someone not to take time to reduce
the picture size. Anyone with twentieth century technology can sure learn how
to resize pictures.
You know, I can't believe you didn't read the rules about posting
enclosures, here they are again for your education and pay attention this time.
<snip>
Here are some rules for posting enclosures by Matt. Failure to abide by
these rules could result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the
Lists.
1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files
you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there
are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post
30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these
folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
In a message dated 6/8/2006 1:43:38 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
wcm@tampabay.rr.com writes:
You know, I can't believe that someone on this list thoughtful enough to
share some pictures with everyone and you or anyone else has the gall to call
them inconsiderate.
Are you the last two guys on the planet with dial up?
If you can afford an airplane you can certainly afford to upgrade from
twentieth century technology.
do not archive
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Sorry Chris, I gotta disagree with you here. I run an ISP and sit on
multiple T-1s here, but at home in the country, all I get is a crappy 21.6
dial-up speed. There are no other alternatives (short of satellite) In
rural parts of the country, that's just the way it is. A lot of our
customers who can get broadband don't, because they don't use it enough to
warrant the cost. Dial-up works just find until someone who doesn't know
any better sends them a movie (You'd be surprised at how many times per week
I have to purge a customer's mailbox because they're stuck waiting for a
large e-mail or they get kicked off trying to do so).
Inconsiderate? Probably not. Ignorant or the size (1MB) of the
attachment and how it would affect a large portion of dial-up users? More
likely.
Matt, unless you can limit the size of e-mails to say, 100K, we'll run
into this problem over and over again. Besides, you all have the PhotoShare
space to put pictures.
Do Not Archive, back to lurking,
J.D. Stewart
Internet Nebraska, UltraFun AirSports, Titan List, Challenger list, admirer
of Kolbs, yada, yada, yada.
You know, I can't believe that someone on this list thoughtful enough to
share some pictures with everyone and you or anyone else has the gall to
call them inconsiderate.
Are you the last two guys on the planet with dial up?
If you can afford an airplane you can certainly afford to upgrade from
twentieth century technology.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: FS2Kolb@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly wanted, enclosures
I agree, that was totally inconsiderate by sending such a large file.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Several years ago there was no cable or DSL available where I live, and
I got Dish Network's satellite internet service for a reasonable price.
It was not quite as fast as my current cable system, but still 100 times
faster than dial up. Seems like we got cable TV with about 120 channels
and high speed internet for about $75 a month total.
Only get it when there's a promotion going on and shop around... then
you can get all those big Kolb pictures in about ten seconds.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
Ed Chmielewski wrote:
> Chris,
> Whoa, there! Who said it's even available in their area? I
> moved from the city to the country, from DSL to dial-up. Our only
> phone provider, Verizon, won't upgrade.
> <snip>
>
> Ed in JXN
> MkII/503
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Hey guys, don't get to caught up in this size matters discussion. I am working
on an enhancement that will replace the actual enclosure with a URL link to the
enclosure over on the Matronics web server. That way even the Digest and List
Browse people can enjoy them too, not to mention the bandwidth savings. I
might even implement some sort of automatic resizing algorithm, but I'm not sure
about that since sometimes you want the full size version. Perhaps I will
include a "Scaled" version URL along with the Full Sized version URL.
So, stay tuned, I should have something pretty nice very soon. In the mean time,
pay attention to what you're posting and scale it down.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
At 01:13 PM 6/8/2006 Thursday, you wrote:
> Sorry Chris, I gotta disagree with you here. I run an ISP and sit on multiple
T-1s here, but at home in the country, all I get is a crappy 21.6 dial-up
speed. There are no other alternatives (short of satellite) In rural parts
of the country, that's just the way it is. A lot of our customers who can get
broadband don't, because they don't use it enough to warrant the cost. Dial-up
works just find until someone who doesn't know any better sends them a movie
(You'd be surprised at how many times per week I have to purge a customer's
mailbox because they're stuck waiting for a large e-mail or they get kicked off
trying to do so).
> Inconsiderate? Probably not. Ignorant or the size (1MB) of the attachment
and how it would affect a large portion of dial-up users? More likely.
> Matt, unless you can limit the size of e-mails to say, 100K, we'll run into
this problem over and over again. Besides, you all have the PhotoShare space
to put pictures.
>
>Do Not Archive, back to lurking,
>
>J.D. Stewart
>Internet Nebraska, UltraFun AirSports, Titan List, Challenger list, admirer of
Kolbs, yada, yada, yada.
>You know, I can't believe that someone on this list thoughtful enough to share
some pictures with everyone and you or anyone else has the gall to call them
inconsiderate.
>
>Are you the last two guys on the planet with dial up?
>
>If you can afford an airplane you can certainly afford to upgrade from twentieth
century technology.
>
>do not archive
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:FS2Kolb@aol.com>FS2Kolb@aol.com
>To: <mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>kolb-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:11 PM
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly wanted, enclosures
>
>I agree, that was totally inconsiderate by sending such a large file.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@msbit.net>
> Matt, unless you can limit the size of e-mails to say, 100K, we'll run into
this problem over and
> over again. Besides, you all have the PhotoShare space to put pictures.
One more time....YOU, the end user...yes YOU....have the
ability to limit the size of message that YOU receive via your
email program (at leat the Outlook and Pegasus folks). Not too
hard to figure out. Unless you just want to continue to
complain......
(the above "you" is generic..applies to no one in particular and
anyone who wishes to kill the large messages)
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
Elmore City, OK
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: <jeepacro@cox.net>
I'm not a master of picture file reducing. I'm a very considerate airplane loving
guy that just got on this kolb thing "8 day's ago" to learn things about
the KOLB Firefly. I can say that after just 8 day's of being on this Kolb thing
I have learned there are some not so happy Kolb owners with slow computers
that think I'm inconsiderate. I learned sometimes the plane can nose over on
landing's , and I piss off a few when I send pictures. sorry. Let's get back
to the plane. I've just started the building of this thing and I can say
I'm loving it! Flying it is going to be just as good I hope. The nose over on
landing thing, anyone out there had this happened to them? I want to hear on
a 1 to 10 scale how easy does this happen in you're opinion. How do you land
wheel or 3 point? Has anyone seen a fatter tail wheel that will fit so that
it can land in sand and not sink as bad? I'm thinking of the kind that Alaskan
bush plane makes. Any idea's of how I can make one supper light? Maybe even
off of a toy or something etc. Buy the way for all who can't open the picture
I rudely sent it was a picture of my unfinished Kolb Firefly sitting in my
driveway......................
Rob.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Rob,
I have a Firestar II and in my opinion you would almost have to try to stand
it on it's nose for this to happen during landing.
Unlike a lot of planes you really don't flair a Kolb, rather, you just fly
it to within a few inches of the ground and ease back on the power.
On the ground however, is another story. If you get on the breaks too hard
or throttle up too fast on a soft surface it will do a nose stand (and
rather easily) Don't ask me how I know this.
When I land, once the mains are firmly on the ground I actually push the
stick forward to keep the tail wheel up, this helps bleed off energy, I
feel.
Kolb sells a "fat" tail wheel that's really nice, break away (not cheap
though) if you feel that you need to change.
Ask John Hauck about tail wheels if you want an expert opinion. He lands
places that scare birds.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <jeepacro@cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:00 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: enclosures
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: <jeepacro@cox.net>
>
> I'm not a master of picture file reducing. I'm a very considerate
> airplane loving guy that just got on this kolb thing "8 day's ago" to
> learn things about the KOLB Firefly. I can say that after just 8 day's of
> being on this Kolb thing I have learned there are some not so happy Kolb
> owners with slow computers that think I'm inconsiderate. I learned
> sometimes the plane can nose over on landing's , and I piss off a few when
> I send pictures. sorry. Let's get back to the plane. I've just
> started the building of this thing and I can say I'm loving it! Flying it
> is going to be just as good I hope. The nose over on landing thing,
> anyone out there had this happened to them? I want to hear on a 1 to 10
> scale how easy does this happen in you're opinion. How do you land wheel
> or 3 point? Has anyone seen a fatter tail wheel that will fit so that it
> can land in sand and not sink as bad? I'm thinking of the kind that
> Alaskan bush plane makes. Any idea's of how I can make on!
> e supper light? Maybe even off of a toy or something etc. Buy the way
> for all who can't open the picture I rudely sent it was a picture of my
> unfinished Kolb Firefly sitting in my driveway......................
> Rob.
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Amen. Thunderbird is the program I use (love it, free, almost as good as
Eudora Pro used to be) and it has the ability to screen messages larger
than whatever you tell it.
Go to Tools/Account Settings/Disk Space
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
Jim Baker wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@msbit.net>
>
>
>> Matt, unless you can limit the size of e-mails to say, 100K, we'll run into
this problem over and
>> over again. Besides, you all have the PhotoShare space to put pictures.
>>
>
> One more time....YOU, the end user...yes YOU....have the
> ability to limit the size of message that YOU receive via your
> email program (at leat the Outlook and Pegasus folks). Not too
> hard to figure out. Unless you just want to continue to
> complain......
>
> (the above "you" is generic..applies to no one in particular and
> anyone who wishes to kill the large messages)
>
>
> Jim Baker
> 580.788.2779
> Elmore City, OK
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: firefly wanted, enclosures |
Hard to say. You might end up being another............;) I do think
it's better to familiarize ourselves with the guidelines of posting and
understand them before posting. There are a lot of people that read this
list and many have slow dial up internet service on their giggle hz
computers. The action of posting a larger than suggested file would
suggest a lack of regard for, or ignorance of, the guidelines about
posting such files. Lack of consideration if you will. Matt has posted
the guidelines clearly for all to see any time they feel they need to .
They are good, workable, well thought out guidelines that can keep the
list running smoothly, and with civility.
Is it better to gather a new to ultralight pilot like myself
or to complain about your personal internet connection on a site
dedicated to the furtherance of the future of ultralights.
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| Subject: | Re: firefly wanted, enclosures |
I did not post the file ...just like to fly. And those that do.
R Butler
----- Original Message -----
From: Kirk Smith<mailto:snuffy@usol.com>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com<mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: firefly wanted, enclosures
Hard to say. You might end up being another............;) I do think
it's better to familiarize ourselves with the guidelines of posting and
understand them before posting. There are a lot of people that read this
list and many have slow dial up internet service on their giggle hz
computers. The action of posting a larger than suggested file would
suggest a lack of regard for, or ignorance of, the guidelines about
posting such files. Lack of consideration if you will. Matt has posted
the guidelines clearly for all to see any time they feel they need to .
They are good, workable, well thought out guidelines that can keep the
list running smoothly, and with civility.
Is it better to gather a new to ultralight pilot like myself
or to complain about your personal internet connection on a site
dedicated to the furtherance of the future of ultralights.
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Hi Rob,
It doesn't take much to master picture resizing. Just a couple of clicks and
you are done. A slow computer has nothing to do with downloading pictures.
You can have the fastest computer in the world but if you have dial up it
will still take a very long time to download large files.
I have nosed over my FireStar twice but never on landing. I think it would
be very hard to do that unless you have an uncontrolled landing or you hit
something on the runway.
The first time I nosed over was when taking off a grass field (grass??? What
is that?) I went to full throttle at a stand still and didn't hold the
elevator up.
The second time I nosed over was when I started the engine at full throttle
and couldn't throttle down because the cable was bent.
If you watch the video I took last year at MV you will see some very good
techniques on landing Kolbs.
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbflyer/
Wouldn't installing a heavier tail wheel, may throw off your W&B requiring
you to add ballast in the nose of your Firefly.
I saw the picture you posted and I hope you are going to paint over the Zinc
chromate primer with two part epoxy primer or else when you apply the
polytac the Zinc chromate primer will start melting.
Hope this helps,
Will Uribe
Desert southwest
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
http://members.aol.com/firestartwo/Kit1.html
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeepacro@cox.net
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 3:01 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: enclosures
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <jeepacro@cox.net>
I'm not a master of picture file reducing. I'm a very considerate airplane
loving guy that just got on this kolb thing "8 day's ago" to learn things
about the KOLB Firefly. I can say that after just 8 day's of being on this
Kolb thing I have learned there are some not so happy Kolb owners with slow
computers that think I'm inconsiderate. I learned sometimes the plane can
nose over on landing's , and I piss off a few when I send pictures. sorry.
Let's get back to the plane. I've just started the building of this thing
and I can say I'm loving it! Flying it is going to be just as good I hope.
The nose over on landing thing, anyone out there had this happened to them?
I want to hear on a 1 to 10 scale how easy does this happen in you're
opinion. How do you land wheel or 3 point? Has anyone seen a fatter tail
wheel that will fit so that it can land in sand and not sink as bad? I'm
thinking of the kind that Alaskan bush plane makes. Any idea's of how I can
make on!
e supper light? Maybe even off of a toy or something etc. Buy the way for
all who can't open the picture I rudely sent it was a picture of my
unfinished Kolb Firefly sitting in my driveway......................
Rob.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Go to Tools/Account Settings/Disk Space
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Richard,
I went to tools and accounts but I don't got no disk space thingy. I
can't find a thing that limits incoming email size anywhere.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Now, there would be the real deal. If you could tell your email not to
accept anything over xxxx kilobytes, then you wouldn't hafta sit thru long
downloads. Is such a thing really available ??
Before I got DSL it used to drive me crazy, trying to figure a way to stop
the fool thing from tackling a long download, and it just don't
listen....once it starts, you're stuck. Unfortunately, sometimes people
make mistakes, even with the best of intentions. I've goofed on occasion
myself, and sent friends a 3 or 4 megabyte photo by mistake. They don't say
thanks, believe me, if they're on dial up.
Someone mentioned sending larger pics on the on-line version. This makes a
lot of sense to me, and is easy enuf to do. If you're not sure how large
the picture you want to attach is, open it on your screen, (before you send
it) right click it, then click "properties" in the drop down box that
appears. The size, in kilobytes, will be right there. If it's larger than
100 kb, don't attach it to a regular email.........send it via the on-line
site. Should be simple enuf.
I'll repeat an earlier offer - if you're unsure of how to do any of this,
email me your picture; I'll resize it for you, and email it back, ready to
attach to a regular email. If you check the emails Bob D. teased me about
last night, you'll see that the photos are 1000x750 pixels; they are large,
bright and clear, and only use about 50 - 75 kb each. If you check his,
you'll see that his are also in the 30 -50 kb range, and hurt nobody's
feelings.
Please, if you get impatient, don't start another flame war over something
so easy to fix. Send it to Papa Lar, and I'll make it all better. :-) We
all got along and enjoyed the List for years.......let's continue to do so.
Lar.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Attachments
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
> Go to Tools/Account Settings/Disk Space
>> Richard Pike
>> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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> Richard,
>
> I went to tools and accounts but I don't got no disk space thingy. I
> can't find a thing that limits incoming email size anywhere.
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Ref :
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman
<etzim62@earthlink.net>
Frank,
Toe-out greatly increases the bending stress on the landing gear legs
during a hard landing,
but toe-in helps to minimize the bending stress.
In a hard Kolb landing you will wish you had some toe-in,
but I agree with you about the toe-out handling advantage
----------------------------
Hadn't thought about that angle. Thanks!
Frank Clyma
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Ref:
Frank,
May be some question about being astute, but I believe the FireFly does
well
without toe-in or toe-out because the cg is almost directly above the
line
passing through the center of the wheels. This design feature makes the
FireFly easier to turn while on the ground. Now comes the BUT. But it
has
a tendency to make the FireFly more unstable due to weight shifts or
side
wind loads while taxiing if there is toe-in or
toe-out.
As for why you would want to use toe-in or toe-out, I don't know the
answer.
It does keep you busy on the rudder pedals.
Jack B. Hart FF004
---------------------------------------------
Good point. My buddy's MiniMax has no toe in or out, due to the
straight axle, and it doesn't turn as well as a Kolb---it has the gear
ahead of the CG. It doesn't have the noseover tendency of the Kolb,
however. And it's not squirrelly---maybe due to the rigid axle not
allowing wheel flex---and probably the low wing/lower down CG/shorter
gear combo.
The U/L I referred to was a high wing tractor design, and it was still
squirrelly with the toe in. The pusher designs tend to be less stable
on the ground, due to the thrust being behind the CG; anything other
than dead straight ahead gives an increased tendency to turn. (Tractor
designs tend to pull back toward straight when turned slightly, IMHO)
I was hoping there would be a lot more info out there, due to the Kolb
being a pusher. And I was hoping a few of the engineering-background
guys would weigh in on the subject. Guess this isn't as interesting a
topic as alternative engines. Would sure beat the subject matter of a
few of the recent posts, however.
Frank Clyma
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| Subject: | FireFly Nose Over on Landing |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
At 02:00 PM 6/8/06 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: <jeepacro@cox.net>
>
>I'm not a master of picture file reducing. I'm a very considerate airplane loving
guy that just got on this kolb thing "8 day's ago" to learn things about
the KOLB Firefly.
...............................
The nose over on landing thing, anyone out there had this happened to them?
I want to hear on a 1 to 10 scale how easy does this happen in you're opinion.
How do you land wheel or 3 point?
...............................
Rob,
I have put my FireFly into a bean and corn field, and I have landed it in
tall grass with a couple inches of water on the ground. In all cases, I
tried to three point it and it gave no indication of wanting to go on its
nose. Before I moved the flaperon control to the left side, I did not use
the flaperons, so the tail wheel hit first. With five degrees of flaperon
my FireFly will three point. I am using the four inch plastic wheels. I
always three point the FireFly so that I am in practice to touch down at the
lowest possible speed.
I have put it on its nose three times on grass. The first nose over was
during the first take off from grass. I was used to hard surface take offs
and I was too heavy on the throttle. I was too slow in recognizing what was
going on and did not get the throttle back in time. I never let the tail
come up. I hold the stick back against the stop. I slowly advance the
throttle. On take off from grass and with the stick back against the stop,
if the tail starts to come up you are on your way to a nose over. Be timid
with the throttle and nurse it up into ground effect, let the stick go
forward to get up to a reasonable flight speed and then aggressively advance
the throttle.
The other two nose overs were from trying to taxi through tall wet grass
over soft ground. With the four inch wheels you can't do it. It is best to
shut down, get out and hand man handle the FireFly to where ever you want to
go.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Non-Kolb for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Hi Richard,
How do you think that J6 would perform with a 912 Rotax? Kirk
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| Subject: | Re: firefly wanted, enclosures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
And if someone's savvy enough to operate a digital camera and
post pics to the 'Interweb', they should be able to resize to 640 x
480 with ease. I and many others would appreciate it !
Ed in JXN
I'm on the road, downloading on a dail up modem at a screaming
40kbps.
1.5 mb takes quite a while to download.
At home, my RR cable modem screams.
Agree, not that hard to reduce the size of pics prior to posting.
Thanks in advance,
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Non-Kolb for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
I would want it back... It would be a very good and very capable
airplane. Read an article years ago about a guy who hung a Subaru on the
nose of one and loved it, so it will obviously handle the extra weight
and power.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kirk Smith wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
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> Hi Richard,
> How do you think that J6 would perform with a 912 Rotax? Kirk
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
In Outlook Express, go to
Tools
Message Rules
Mail
1. Select conditions for your rule
(box) Where message is more than size...
And you can take it from there - or switch to Thunderbird and it is all
so much easier
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
Kirk Smith wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
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> Go to Tools/Account Settings/Disk Space
>
>> Richard Pike
>> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>>
>
>
> Richard,
>
> I went to tools and accounts but I don't got no disk space thingy. I
> can't find a thing that limits incoming email size anywhere.
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| Subject: | Re: firefly wanted, enclosures |
Some of us live in the country and no choice. I live out in the boonies
and fly from my own strip.
Dial up only option.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Mallory
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly wanted, enclosures
You know, I can't believe that someone on this list thoughtful enough
to share some pictures with everyone and you or anyone else has the gall
to call them inconsiderate.
Are you the last two guys on the planet with dial up?
If you can afford an airplane you can certainly afford to upgrade from
twentieth century technology.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: FS2Kolb@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly wanted, enclosures
I agree, that was totally inconsiderate by sending such a large
file.
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