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1. 06:06 AM - Re: Dial Up (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
2. 06:17 AM - Re: Monument Valley Web Pages (jimhefner)
3. 06:56 AM - Re: Dial Up (russ kinne)
4. 07:03 AM - Re: Something New!!!!!! (N27SB@aol.com)
5. 07:32 AM - Re: Something New!!!!!! (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
6. 07:33 AM - Re: Something New!!!!!! Trailer for sale (N27SB@aol.com)
7. 07:55 AM - Re: Monument Valley Web Pages (Larry Bourne)
8. 07:57 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley Web Pages (Larry Bourne)
9. 07:59 AM - Re: Something New!!!!!! (N27SB@aol.com)
10. 08:15 AM - Re: the great "gapsby" for VIC (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
11. 08:31 AM - Re: Leave me out of this !!! (John Murr)
12. 09:17 AM - Firestar II (Jimmy Hill)
13. 09:40 AM - Re: the great "gapsby" for VIC (Vic Peters)
14. 10:31 AM - Re: Firestar II (FS2Kolb@aol.com)
15. 10:37 AM - Re: Something New!!!!!! (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
16. 10:40 AM - Re: the great "gapsby" for VIC (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
17. 10:56 AM - Re: Dial Up (Flycrazy8@aol.com)
18. 12:39 PM - [ Richard Miles ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
19. 12:39 PM - Re: the great "gapsby" for VIC (Vic Peters)
20. 12:42 PM - Re: the great "gapsby" for VIC (Vic Peters)
21. 01:45 PM - Re: the great "gapsby" for VIC (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
22. 02:49 PM - Re: Firestar II (Chuck Stonex)
23. 05:06 PM - Re: [SPAM] Re: Firestar II (Jimmy Hill)
24. 06:16 PM - Re: Something New!!!!!! Trailer for sale (pete haggerty)
25. 06:30 PM - Re: parts? (Don Martin)
26. 07:27 PM - Re: Something New!!!!!! Trailer for sale (N27SB@aol.com)
27. 07:33 PM - Re: Something New!!!!!! (Steven Green)
28. 11:00 PM - Re: dail up (jerb)
29. 11:05 PM - Re: Dial Up (jerb)
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It must be something in the gas
Nice looking Bird there Bryan wish you would stay intouch so we can hear
about your Kolb Aviating experience
even though I made a generous contribution to the matronics list I am
staying as long as my delete button doesn't fail me
Ellery in Maine in a Firestar
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley Web Pages |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jimhefner" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
Nice job on your website Lar!! Thanks for sharing. The stitched photo of the
Goosenecks is awesome. What SW do you use for stiching photos?
--------
Jim Hefner
Tucson, AZ
Firefly #022 447, 2 blade IVO, BRS-750
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=39783#39783
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You can avoid this by not drinking water!
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On Jun 9, 2006, at 10:33 PM, WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 6/9/2006 4:18:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> jimh474@earthlink.net writes:
> Dang is the majority of this list having their monthly period, or
> is the weather or moon phase causing everyone to be so danged touchy.
>
> Jim Hauck
> Neither one Jim,
>
> There's something in the water.
>
> Bill Varnes
> Original Kolb FireStar
> Audubon NJ
> Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Something New!!!!!! |
In a message dated 6/10/2006 12:28:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
NeilsenRM@comcast.net writes:
I have a redrive VW powered MKIIIc that I'm trying to design a trailer for.
I have been trying to figure a easy/light way that I could build a
bracket/cart/something that I could clamp the tail boom
Rick,
I would not haul your MKIII backwards. I tried several configurations with
my Firefly on floats. It is easier to load backwards but the plane takes a
beating. I currently have FF#007 in an enclosed trailer (nose first). I have a
$50 electric winch that I got at Harbor Freight. It pulls the airplane in very
easy.
Steve Boetto
FF#007 on floats
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| Subject: | Re: Something New!!!!!! |
Steve,
I have a MKIII and it loads into my enclosed trailer backwards. I
don't have any choice since whoever made the trailer designed it with a
long, pointy nose so that's the only way my plane will fit. But I don't
understand why/how the plane would take a beating just because it is in
the trailer a different way. Couldja explain please!
AzDave
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Rick,
I would not haul your MKIII backwards. I tried several configurations
with my Firefly on floats. It is easier to load backwards but the plane
takes a beating.
Steve Boetto
FF#007 on floats
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| Subject: | Re: Something New!!!!!! Trailer for sale |
Rick,
I also have the very looong very low aluminum trailer for sale that I used
to display the Firefly at SnF 2005. It would adapt very well to any Airplane.
Steve Boetto
FF #007
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley Web Pages |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Thanks very much Richard. Unfortunately, my camera, a Nikon Coolpix 8800
has been discontinued, and it doesn't look like Nikon is going to bring out
a successor. Maybe a used camera ?? When my cousin's daughter asked about
a camera, I did a lot of research and recommended a Fuji S9000. Boy, is Bob
Dalton gonna get some mileage outa that one. :-)
The nice thing about a digital camera is that the pictures are free, once
you've bought the camera, so get plenty of memory and take LOTS of pics. On
the MV trip, I took 729 pics in 5 days using a 1gb card and downloading at
night. Sorting out which ones to use - especially on the ATV page - was
really tough. Seems like 1 pic in a series will have that extra "something"
that sets it apart, and if you take enuf, some are bound to come out well.
For example, that sunrise on the ATV page is the last shot of a series of 12
that I took over about 10 minutes, then I cropped it strongly for the
published version. Thanks again............. Lar.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Web Pages
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> Thank you, your web pages are the greatest!
> And what kind of camera are you using?
> (I have asked before, but now you've got me inspired enough to actually
> spend money!)
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley Web Pages |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Thanks, Jim. I used ArcSoft Panorama Maker 3, that came bundled with
something. Scanner, printer, or camera......I'm not sure.
Lar. Do not Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jimhefner" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 6:17 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley Web Pages
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "jimhefner" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
>
> Nice job on your website Lar!! Thanks for sharing. The stitched photo of
> the Goosenecks is awesome. What SW do you use for stiching photos?
>
> --------
> Jim Hefner
> Tucson, AZ
> Firefly #022 447, 2 blade IVO, BRS-750
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=39783#39783
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Something New!!!!!! |
In a message dated 6/10/2006 10:33:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
pelletier@cableone.net writes:
Steve,
I have a MKIII and it loads into my enclosed trailer backwards. I don't
have any choice since whoever made the trailer designed it with a long,
pointy nose so that's the only way my plane will fit. But I don't understand
why/how the plane would take a beating just because it is in the trailer a
different way. Couldja explain please!
AzDave
Dave, good point
I assumed that Rick was talking about an open trailer.
Steve
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| Subject: | the great "gapsby" for VIC |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" <rp3420@freescale.com>
Vic,
Sorry not to reply sooner, I have been out of town. The fiberglass
piece that cleans up the gap seal to the windshield on our Xtra, was
provided by TNK. It came with our original Xtra kit six years ago.
Call Travis and see if there still available.
Tim
Firestar II-"Iditarod" www.milows.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vic Peters
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: the great "gapsby"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
Yes Bob D. thats the one. thanks!
Tim G. come on down! Please.
Vic
N40KX912ul
Maine
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| Subject: | Re: Leave me out of this !!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Murr" <jdm@wideworld.net>
Nice plane Bryan! I also have a Firestar. I see you are building Sonex 929.
I'm building Waiex 55. I'm sure we will meet up in the future!
John Murr
----- Original Message -----
From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Leave me out of this !!!
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
>>
>> I logged onto the list this morning for the first time in over a week and
>> in amidst the usual stuff and bickering I see my name in one of the
>> topics
>> posted by >
>
> I got back o the list 2 days ago after being gone for about six months.
> In all the messages I've received about 20% were Kolb or airplane related
> the rest was the usual people bitching about something or someone else, so
> after this message I will be gone again for good.
> I finished my Firestar and registered it as ELSA thanks tofor all the
> help I got from this list and to the friends I made here John Hauck, Jim
> Hauck, John Williamson, big Lar, Steve and a few others I hope to see you
> soon. E-mail me B/C anytime.
> I'm sending a picture of my plane and no dought it will piss someone
> off!
>
>
> Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
> Sonex #929
>
>
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Will try again to get this post to the list.
Have a very good Firestar II for sale.
503 DCDI, 3 blade prop, excellent.
$8500.
Jimmy
405-743-4455
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| Subject: | Re: the great "gapsby" for VIC |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
Tim G.,
Thanks Tim, I already have the fairing just cant picture how to attach it
and make those ears look good.
Vic
N40KX912ul
Maine
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In a message dated 6/10/2006 10:17:59 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
hillstw@jhill.biz writes:
Will try again to get this post to the list.
Have a very good Firestar II for sale.
503 DCDI, 3 blade prop, excellent.
$8500.
Jimmy
405-743-4455
Hey Jimmy,
If it is in excellent condition you should be asking at least $10,000 for
it.
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| Subject: | Re: Something New!!!!!! |
Thanks All
Steve: I all ready have a trailer and it will be enclosed.
Will: The photos are great. I particularly liked the kneeling trailer.
The attached photo shows my boat trailer that I'm converting to a Kolb
hauler. Note the brackets below the lights. The main gear will sit on
the brackets when loaded and the wheels will be out in the open outside
the trailer enclosure. I will be keeping the plane at a small airport
community/county grass strip in Florida 4-5 months a year. They don't
have many hangers and don't allow any on the airport grounds. I will
keep my plane in the trailer while I'm down there. When parked I will
take the wheels off the trailer and the main gear brackets will sit on
the ground.
My problem is the enclosure and a system to get the plane in and out of
the trailer with the least effort.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: N27SB@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Something New!!!!!!
In a message dated 6/10/2006 12:28:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
NeilsenRM@comcast.net writes:
I have a redrive VW powered MKIIIc that I'm trying to design a
trailer for.
I have been trying to figure a easy/light way that I could build a
bracket/cart/something that I could clamp the tail boom
Rick,
I would not haul your MKIII backwards. I tried several configurations
with my Firefly on floats. It is easier to load backwards but the plane
takes a beating. I currently have FF#007 in an enclosed trailer (nose
first). I have a $50 electric winch that I got at Harbor Freight. It
pulls the airplane in very easy.
Steve Boetto
FF#007 on floats
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| Subject: | the great "gapsby" for VIC |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" <rp3420@freescale.com>
Vic,
Go to our website www.milows.com and click on the "Permanent gap seal"
in the Xtra side of the site. You can see the rivets/clecos holding the
piece onto the gap seal, and if you look close in one picture you and
see the holes drilled to hold it and the windshield to the frame of the
plane where the windshield ends up around the gap seal.
Ours did not fit really to well, but with some prodding and flexing and
reworking a bit you can warp it to fit. A word about fiberglass parts,
you can leave them in the sun and get them warmed up and the epoxy/resin
will soften/relax up until cool, making it easier to warp and fit the
part. But once warmed up to a certain temperature the epoxy/resin will
not soften/relax again until you warm it up again but into a higher
temp.
They will set after cooling from coming from a higher warmer temp and
hold that hardened setting until warmed even hotter and so on....does
that make sense??
Here in Arizona, it doesn't take long to get a part warm to make it a
little easier to bend and mold those ears around the corner. We used
just one aluminum fabric rivet on each ear to pin them back on the upper
chromoly fuse tube. It took some pushing and flexing to get it flush
with a chromoly upper fuse tube. Just set up your plane outside in the
heat of the day and warm that part up in the sun and have another set of
hands to help hold, cuss and drill and rivet.
Hope that helps, let me know if that answers any questions. We have
digital cameras and can send specific pics if necessary (cropped of
course). Im not sure you could see the ear attachment rivet in the MV
picture just recently posted?? Cant remember???
Tim and Uncle Craig-The Milows
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vic Peters
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: the great "gapsby" for VIC
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
Tim G.,
Thanks Tim, I already have the fairing just cant picture how to attach
it
and make those ears look good.
Vic
N40KX912ul
Maine
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I am a dial up And am Proud of it . ( sounds like a AA meeting)
Totally appreciated the pics .
Two nose over's . One due to tall grass and other due to flat tire .
Proud to be an American . The Land of the freedom of choice .
A honor to know you " Kolbers" . The nice ones and the well , not so nice
:-))
Stephen
Firefly 03035
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| Subject: | [ Richard Miles ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Richard Miles <ultrastarrick@yahoo.com>
Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List
Subject: Kolb US Pictures
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/ultrastarrick@yahoo.com.06.10.2006/index.html
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o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
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| Subject: | Re: the great "gapsby" for VIC |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
Tim,
Now I get it. It's permanently attatched to the gap seal and screwed through
the windshield for removal, correct?
Thanks
Vic
N40KX912ul
Maine
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| Subject: | Re: the great "gapsby" for VIC |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
Tim, Did you change the original oil tank line fittings to get AN ones to
work or did you find an AN that would wok with them?
Vic
N40KX912ul
Maine
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| Subject: | the great "gapsby" for VIC |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" <rp3420@freescale.com>
Vic,
Your right, The brow is attached to the gap seal with aluminum rivets.
I keep forgetting that our gap seals are permanent and are different
then that of standard Kolb. I worked with ours so much that it becomes
the "norm" to me.
The gap seals on both of our Kolbs are attached to the fuselage and stay
that way even when wings are folded. To unattached my Firestar II gap
seal takes a few screws and bolts, but a bit of welding back in the
engineering stage before paint to make it work. On uncle Craig's Xtra
many 3/32 aluminum rivets, a few 1/8" rivets and a few bolts and screws
hold his together.
We did not use screws on the gap seal brow and windshield area as you
suggested, but easy to drill out 1/8" aluminum rivets.
We did not modify the oil tank at all, but found the AN
fittings.....uncle Craig was the one that scrounged those up. If you
can't find any, let us know and we will be glad to help you find
whatever you need to make it work.
You know where to find us,
Tim
Firestar II-"Iditarod"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vic Peters
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: the great "gapsby" for VIC
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
Tim,
Now I get it. It's permanently attatched to the gap seal and screwed
through
the windshield for removal, correct?
Thanks
Vic
N40KX912ul
Maine
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OK--Would take 10,000 for it.
----- Original Message -----
From: FS2Kolb@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 12:29 PM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: Kolb-List: Firestar II
In a message dated 6/10/2006 10:17:59 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
hillstw@jhill.biz writes:
Will try again to get this post to the list.
Have a very good Firestar II for sale.
503 DCDI, 3 blade prop, excellent.
$8500.
Jimmy
405-743-4455
Hey Jimmy,
If it is in excellent condition you should be asking at least $10,000
for it.
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| Subject: | Re: Something New!!!!!! Trailer for sale |
what are you asking for the trailer
----- Original Message -----
From: N27SB@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Something New!!!!!! Trailer for sale
Rick,
I also have the very looong very low aluminum trailer for sale that I
used to display the Firefly at SnF 2005. It would adapt very well to any
Airplane.
Steve Boetto
FF #007
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6/9/2006
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Martin" <kolbdriver@hotmail.com>
Still looking for an engine plate? I've got one that you are welcome to.
Let me know if intereseted.
Don, Seattle
>From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: parts?
>Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 08:19:41 -0600
>
>I am looking for a engine plate that will fit a 503 to a Firestar II. I
>also need the oil injection system? for a 503.
>Larry, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Something New!!!!!! Trailer for sale |
In a message dated 6/10/2006 9:17:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
pandv2@vivaccess.com writes:
what are you asking for the trailer
1600.00
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| Subject: | Re: Something New!!!!!! |
Rick,
This is what I use. If you are interested in more detail I will send you
more photos off list.
Steven Green
>
> I have a redrive VW powered MKIIIc that I'm trying to design a trailer
for.
> I have been trying to figure a easy/light way that I could build a
> bracket/cart/something that I could clamp the tail boom to then fold the
> wings and set them into this cart. Then with a electric winch just pull
the
> plane up and into the trailer. I want it easy to get the plane in and out
of
> the trailer.
>
> I have a Toyota Mini Van that I have as a tow vehicle. I have a single
axel
> boat trailer that is light and long enough to do the job but the design
> escapes me. Originally I had planned a cart the would run on rollers on a
> tracks on the inside/sides of the trailer with track extensions so that
the
> plane could be connected and the wings folded easily before loading.
>
> My latest idea is one track attached to the inside center top of the
trailer
> with a extension six to ten feet beyond the back of the trailer with
slings
> to hold the tail and wings. I would then winch the plane into the trailer.
> The trailer will be 5' 6" wide at the back to accommodate the prop and
> fuselage. At app. 6 ft from the back it will start to taper to about 2' 6"
> at the front. The enclosure frame will be made from 1.5 to 2 inch steel
> conduit then covered with corrugated steel roofing material.
>
> I have been taking photos and looking at everyone else's ideas but I just
> don't have what I feel is the good design. Any suggestions would be
> appreciated.
>
> Rick Neilsen
>
>
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I strongly disagree with you Boyd. There are
places where your to far from the telephone
company's CO to get DSL. Besides some people
have to compromise between their expenditures,
$30-$60 a month for high speed links or a tank of
gas for the plane. Also some people have to
travel whether personal or business and while on
the road they like to stay in touch with the
group list. That usually implies dial up. Also
with dial up while most mail clients can screen
restrict downloading files by size, the messages
still remain on the server until deleted which
develops another problem, they fill and over flow
your mail box. While I was working over seas I
used to enjoy getting on the list and reading
messages. Would it not be better for people to
learn to create there own web page for photos and
have a link to their web site. Most ISP give you
an amount of space for use for by the subscriber for web pages.
jerb
At 12:58 PM 6/9/2006, you wrote:
> Are you the last two guys on the planet with dial up?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>No=85=85=85=85.. I use dial up and very seldom down load
>pictures because of the time it takes=85 and what
>I can afford,,,,,,,,,, and what I am willing to
>pay,,,,,,,,,,, r 2 different things. I am
>sure johns pictures are great=85 but I can go to
>7, 8 ,10 , 12 thousand feet and see it all in
>person anytime of year=85 I have been told to
>take pictures and post them=85 but I usually just go fly.
>
>Boyd
>
>Do not archive.
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Just maybe were getting more individuals on the list that are more
self centered and only think of themselves.
jerb
At 06:30 PM 6/9/2006, you wrote:
>Sure seems to be getting worse lately, doesn't it ?? Wonder why
>?? Lar. Do not Archive.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:jimh474@earthlink.net>Jim Hauck
>To: <mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>kolb-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 1:17 PM
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Dial Up
>
>Y'all;
>
>Dang is the majority of this list having their monthly period, or is
>the weather or moon phase causing everyone to be so danged touchy.
>
>Jim Hauck
>
>On 6/9/2006 4:07:21 PM, Chris Mallory
>(<mailto:wcm@tampabay.rr.com>wcm@tampabay.rr.com) wrote:
> > Everyone,
> > My apologies guys, I didn't mean to slam those of you that don't have
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