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1. 05:56 AM - Re: Re: Hey Max, You Bastage (Jack B. Hart)
2. 07:03 AM - Re: full enclosures (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
3. 07:21 AM - Tie Down Suggestions (TheWanderingWench)
4. 07:41 AM - Re: Tie Down Suggestions (robert bean)
5. 07:57 AM - Re: Tie Down Suggestions (Jack B. Hart)
6. 08:05 AM - Re: full enclosures ()
7. 08:09 AM - Re: full enclosures (Richard Pike)
8. 08:35 AM - Re: Tie Down Suggestions ()
9. 08:52 AM - Re: Tie Down Suggestions (TheWanderingWench)
10. 09:33 AM - Re: full enclosures (Kirk Smith)
11. 09:47 AM - Re: Tie Down Suggestions (Terry)
12. 09:49 AM - Re: full enclosures (Terry)
13. 10:00 AM - Re: Tie Down Suggestions (Guillermo Uribe)
14. 10:17 AM - Re: Tie Down Suggestions (David Lehman)
15. 11:37 AM - Re: full enclosures (Richard Pike)
16. 12:07 PM - Re: Re: Hey Max, You Bastage (Chris Mallory)
17. 12:21 PM - Kolbs on Open Trailers (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
18. 01:42 PM - Re: full enclosures ()
19. 01:45 PM - Re: Kolbs on Open Trailers ()
20. 02:15 PM - Re: full enclosures (Kirk Smith)
21. 03:32 PM - Re: MuttMuffs... (planecrazzzy)
22. 05:39 PM - Re: Tie Down Suggestions (Larry Bourne)
23. 05:51 PM - Re: Tie Down Suggestions (John Hauck)
24. 06:22 PM - Re: Tie Down Suggestions (Larry Bourne)
25. 06:45 PM - Re: Tie Down Suggestions (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
26. 08:28 PM - Re: Tie Down Suggestions (jerb)
27. 09:00 PM - Re: Tie Down Suggestions ()
28. 09:00 PM - boom tube dolly (galen shirley)
29. 09:22 PM - Re: boom tube dolly (Larry Cottrell)
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| Subject: | Re: Hey Max, You Bastage |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
At 08:42 PM 6/13/06 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
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>This is an unacceptable post. As I indicated last week, any member perpetuating
this thread or any similar thread will be banned from the List.
>
>Effective immediately, "Max Stafford" has been banned from posting to the Matronics
Lists.
>
>Matt Dralle
>Matronics Email List Administrator
Kolbers,
I Googled "Max Stafford" and "Yahoo" because it was in his email address. I
found that Max is a member of a radio controlled aircraft model group. I
joined the group so I could look at some of the listings to see if it was
the same Max. It was. He is giving them fits too.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: full enclosures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
> After all the clean-up mods I have done on my MKIII, the 582 will still
> not push it as fast full throttle as a 912 would, but it will hang in
> there at around 85 top end, and my rpm at 65 mph cruise has dropped by 5
> - 600 rpm's. Now if a fat MKIII can get that much improvement by
> streamlining and cleaning up, certainly a skinny Firefly can.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Richard,
You got my attention. Where do I look to find the clean-up mods you've
done to the MKIII? I have a 582 with streamlined struts and burn 6+ gph and
can barely get it to 70mph WOT.
AzDave
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| Subject: | Tie Down Suggestions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
Hi folks,
I just joined the list - after having an incredible
adventure joining the Monument Valley Kolber's a few
weeks ago. Met many wonderful folks, who didn't seem
to care at all that I had flown in (from Oregon) in a
single seat Maxair Drifter instead of in a Kolb. They
treated me like I was human anyway! :>)
On the flight, I lost my fantastically light titanium
tie downs. I can't get another pair now, and I'm
leaving for the EAA Airshow at Arlington, WA in a few
weeks, so need to get some soon.
Do any of you have a set of tie downs that you like?
Suggestions and contact information for obtaining tie
downs would be appreciated. Weight and size are a
factor for me, since everything has to be strapped
down and I already am carrying all my camping gear,
extra parts, etc. (I don't have a ground crew when I
fly.)
Thanks -
Arty Trost
Sandy, Oregon
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com"Life's a daring adventureor nothing" Helen Keller"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Down Suggestions |
Try googling dog tie out. Unfortunately most appear to be the heavy
chrome/steel spiral type. -Good in solid earth but not in gravelly,
dry stuff.
Here's one that looks like it would be superior but you would have to
borrow a hammer to sink it. Getting it out would also present a
challenge.
http://tinyurl.com/kof42
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On 14, Jun 2006, at 10:20 AM, TheWanderingWench wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: TheWanderingWench
> <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
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> Hi folks,
>
> I just joined the list - after having an incredible
> adventure joining the Monument Valley Kolber's a few
> weeks ago. Met many wonderful folks, who didn't seem
> to care at all that I had flown in (from Oregon) in a
> single seat Maxair Drifter instead of in a Kolb. They
> treated me like I was human anyway! :>)
>
> On the flight, I lost my fantastically light titanium
> tie downs. I can't get another pair now, and I'm
> leaving for the EAA Airshow at Arlington, WA in a few
> weeks, so need to get some soon.
>
> Do any of you have a set of tie downs that you like?
> Suggestions and contact information for obtaining tie
> downs would be appreciated. Weight and size are a
> factor for me, since everything has to be strapped
> down and I already am carrying all my camping gear,
> extra parts, etc. (I don't have a ground crew when I
> fly.)
>
> Thanks -
>
> Arty Trost
> Sandy, Oregon
>
>
> www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com"Life's a daring adventure=EF=BDor
nothing"
> Helen Keller"I refuse to tip toe through life just to
> arrive safely at death."
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Down Suggestions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
At 07:20 AM 6/14/06 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
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>Do any of you have a set of tie downs that you like?
>Suggestions and contact information for obtaining tie
>downs would be appreciated. Weight and size are a
>factor for me, since everything has to be strapped
>down and I already am carrying all my camping gear,
>extra parts, etc. (I don't have a ground crew when I
>fly.)
Arty,
My solution can be seen at:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly61.html
I use these quite a bit and they have worked very well. While welding, it
would have been good to weld the hoop closed on the top.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: full enclosures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <jeepacro@cox.net>
This is exactly what I was getting at. With the 447 you cannot have a full enclosure
and be a legal ultralight. The legality is determent by advisory curricular
103.7 which is a very specific method for showing compliance with FAR part
103. According to AC 103.7 the firefly with a 447 will exceed the speed allowed
if equipped with a full enclosure. this brought me to my questions about
the smaller motor performance with enclosure compared to the bigger motor without
enclosure. Now how many NON compliant plane are out there? Don't answer
that one.
Rob.
---- Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
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> I thought he was saying that with a full enclosure it would break out of
> the Part 103 constraints, and that was why he was going to a smaller
> engine than a 447. Did not mean to imply that a 277 would equal a 447
> on the same airframe, but that with a 277 and streamlining (illegal
> under Part 103 with a 447) he would not lose anything. If his legal top
> speed now is 64 with a 447, (and probably more like 75 actual) he will
> probably still get that much with a 277 and a full enclosure / streamlining.
>
> I put streamline cuffs on all the exposed tubing on my Hummer (a draggy
> beast) and streamlined the gear legs, added a full fairing, curved
> windshield, etc, and the 277 pushed it through the air 10 mph faster
> than stock, which reached the Part 103 speed limit (and the Hummers
> redline). If a 277 will do that on a Hummer, you know it will do it
> better on a Kolb.
>
> After all the clean-up mods I have done on my MKIII, the 582 will still
> not push it as fast full throttle as a 912 would, but it will hang in
> there at around 85 top end, and my rpm at 65 mph cruise has dropped by 5
> - 600 rpm's. Now if a fat MKIII can get that much improvement by
> streamlining and cleaning up, certainly a skinny Firefly can.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> John Hauck wrote:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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> > | You will lose some climb compared to a 447, but a 1.5 to 1.75/ hr
> > fuel
> > | burn is very attainable. And depending on how you prop it, you will
> > not
> > | lose any cruise or top speed.
> >
> > | Richard Pike
> >
> > Preacher Pike:
> >
> > Perhaps men of the cloth can induce a 277 to perform as a 447 on a FF,
> > but us mere mortals may have a little problem there.
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> > How you gonna get that little bitty 277 to equal top speed of a 447
> > powered FF???
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| Subject: | Re: full enclosures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Be glad to - here is the link
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/kolb.htm
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Dave & Eve Pelletier wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
> <pelletier@cableone.net>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
>> After all the clean-up mods I have done on my MKIII, the 582 will still
>> not push it as fast full throttle as a 912 would, but it will hang in
>> there at around 85 top end, and my rpm at 65 mph cruise has dropped by 5
>> - 600 rpm's. Now if a fat MKIII can get that much improvement by
>> streamlining and cleaning up, certainly a skinny Firefly can.
>>
>> Richard Pike
>> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> Richard,
>
> You got my attention. Where do I look to find the clean-up mods
> you've done to the MKIII? I have a 582 with streamlined struts and
> burn 6+ gph and can barely get it to 70mph WOT.
>
> AzDave
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Down Suggestions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <jeepacro@cox.net>
I make my wife stand there and hold it.
--
Rob.
---- "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
>
> At 07:20 AM 6/14/06 -0700, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
> >
> ............
> >
> >Do any of you have a set of tie downs that you like?
> >Suggestions and contact information for obtaining tie
> >downs would be appreciated. Weight and size are a
> >factor for me, since everything has to be strapped
> >down and I already am carrying all my camping gear,
> >extra parts, etc. (I don't have a ground crew when I
> >fly.)
>
> Arty,
>
> My solution can be seen at:
>
> http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly61.html
>
> I use these quite a bit and they have worked very well. While welding, it
> would have been good to weld the hoop closed on the top.
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
Dang - another sign of inferiority to you Kolbers - I
don't have a wife! And my husband can't stand still.
If I could add some seats, I could use my 3 Great
Danes - they're pretty well trained to "down and stay"
almost indefinitely. (Yes, I actually DO have 3 Great
Danes.)
Any other suggestions?
Arty
--- jeepacro@cox.net wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: <jeepacro@cox.net>
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> I make my wife stand there and hold it.
> --
> Rob.
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> ---- "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> wrote:
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> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart"
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> > At 07:20 AM 6/14/06 -0700, you wrote:
> > >--> Kolb-List message posted by:
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> > >Do any of you have a set of tie downs that you
> like?
> > >Suggestions and contact information for obtaining
> tie
> > >downs would be appreciated. Weight and size are a
> > >factor for me, since everything has to be
> strapped
> > >down and I already am carrying all my camping
> gear,
> > >extra parts, etc. (I don't have a ground crew
> when I
> > >fly.)
> >
> > Arty,
> >
> > My solution can be seen at:
> >
> >
>
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly61.html
> >
> > I use these quite a bit and they have worked very
> well. While welding, it
> > would have been good to weld the hoop closed on
> the top.
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| Subject: | Re: full enclosures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
"AC 103.7 the firefly with a 447 will exceed the speed allowed if equipped
with a full enclosure. "
Depends on prop pitch. Could get a prop with one helluva climb but no top
end.
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Down Suggestions |
Jack B. Hart wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
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>At 07:20 AM 6/14/06 -0700, you wrote:
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>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
>>
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>............
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>>Do any of you have a set of tie downs that you like?
>>Suggestions and contact information for obtaining tie
>>downs would be appreciated. Weight and size are a
>>factor for me, since everything has to be strapped
>>down and I already am carrying all my camping gear,
>>extra parts, etc. (I don't have a ground crew when I
>>fly.)
>>
>>
>
>Arty,
>
>My solution can be seen at:
>
>http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly61.html
>
>I use these quite a bit and they have worked very well. While welding, it
>would have been good to weld the hoop closed on the top.
>
>Jack B. Hart FF004
>Winchester, IN
>
>
>
Jack,
You are what this list is all about!. Thanks for the idea of shortening
the ground stakes. Exactly why I haven't carried these on my FireFly is
because of the length and weight. Wish I had thought of that!! Now, if
some of the others could get the idea of what this list is suppose to be
or get lost!
Will be making a set pronto!
Terry - FireFly # 95
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| Subject: | Re: full enclosures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Richard Pike wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> Be glad to - here is the link
> http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/kolb.htm
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
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> Dave & Eve Pelletier wrote:
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>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
>> <pelletier@cableone.net>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
>>
>>> After all the clean-up mods I have done on my MKIII, the 582 will still
>>> not push it as fast full throttle as a 912 would, but it will hang in
>>> there at around 85 top end, and my rpm at 65 mph cruise has dropped
>>> by 5
>>> - 600 rpm's. Now if a fat MKIII can get that much improvement by
>>> streamlining and cleaning up, certainly a skinny Firefly can.
>>>
>>> Richard Pike
>>> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>>
>>
Richard,
This is long overdue, but I wanted to thank you for your idea of
lightening the aileron control by moving the holes on the bellcrank in
towards the center. I did this a couple of years ago and left the rest
of the bellcrank there in case I didn't like it. Never moved them back!
Thank you,
Terry - FireFly #95
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| Subject: | Tie Down Suggestions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
Hi Arty,
I like the Claw tie downs, it may be too heavy for you to carry in you
airplane but check them out.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ps/tiedownsupplies.html
Did you have any more problems with your tail wheel after you left MV?
Regards,
Will Uribe
FireStar II N4GU
El Paso, TX
http://members.aol.com/WillUribe/mv/
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TheWanderingWench
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:21 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Tie Down Suggestions
--> Kolb-List message posted by: TheWanderingWench
<thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
Hi folks,
I just joined the list - after having an incredible
adventure joining the Monument Valley Kolber's a few
weeks ago. Met many wonderful folks, who didn't seem
to care at all that I had flown in (from Oregon) in a
single seat Maxair Drifter instead of in a Kolb. They
treated me like I was human anyway! :>)
On the flight, I lost my fantastically light titanium
tie downs. I can't get another pair now, and I'm
leaving for the EAA Airshow at Arlington, WA in a few
weeks, so need to get some soon.
Do any of you have a set of tie downs that you like?
Suggestions and contact information for obtaining tie
downs would be appreciated. Weight and size are a
factor for me, since everything has to be strapped
down and I already am carrying all my camping gear,
extra parts, etc. (I don't have a ground crew when I
fly.)
Thanks -
Arty Trost
Sandy, Oregon
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com"Life's a daring adventureor nothing"
Helen Keller"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at
death."
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| Subject: | Re: full enclosures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
And then you would get EGT's of incredible weirdness. Hot weirdness.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kirk Smith wrote:
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> "AC 103.7 the firefly with a 447 will exceed the speed allowed if equipped
> with a full enclosure. "
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> Depends on prop pitch. Could get a prop with one helluva climb but no top
> end.
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| Subject: | Re: Hey Max, You Bastage |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
THANKS MATT
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| Subject: | Kolbs on Open Trailers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
(NOTE - Subject line has been changed.)
<< The problem was on an open trailer the wind moving across a backwards
Kolb beats up the tail feathers. I guess it is the reason that seagulls
always stand Beak to the wind. Steve B. >>
Steve, -
You are absolutely correct: Beak to the wind.
If done right, our Kolbs travel just fine for long distances on open
trailers. I trailered my Mark-3 to and from Monument Valley last May, 7
hours driving time each way. My trailer is a simple, one axle flatbed, 22
feet long. My Kolb is secured pointing forward on the trailer. As long as
you secure everything (i.e., flaps & ailerons not flapping in the wind,
wings & tail boom supported, etc.), these Kolbs can endure prolonged open
trailer transporting without problems.
Another benefit of open trailering: You get LOTS of looks from the other
motorists! (They know a fun thing when they see it.)
But ... I think I want to FLY my plane there next year!
Dennis Kirby
N93DK, "Magic Bike"
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: full enclosures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <jeepacro@cox.net>
You're just kidding right? So you're suggesting I just go ahead and put the 477
with enclosure and put a climb prop on it to slow it down and I'm still legal?
Sounds like the classic 10 gallon fuel tank that say's 5 gal. on it story.
Are you still mad about the big inconsiderate file /picture I sent ? I'm you're
flying junkie friend man.........
Rob.
---- Kirk Smith <snuffy@usol.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
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> "AC 103.7 the firefly with a 447 will exceed the speed allowed if equipped
> with a full enclosure. "
>
> Depends on prop pitch. Could get a prop with one helluva climb but no top
> end.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbs on Open Trailers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <jeepacro@cox.net>
If you can I would like to see a picture of it on the trailer and a few of the
key attach points. I will be doing the same thing. Thanks in advance
--
Rob.
---- Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> (NOTE - Subject line has been changed.)
>
> << The problem was on an open trailer the wind moving across a backwards
> Kolb beats up the tail feathers. I guess it is the reason that seagulls
> always stand Beak to the wind. Steve B. >>
>
> Steve, -
>
> You are absolutely correct: Beak to the wind.
>
> If done right, our Kolbs travel just fine for long distances on open
> trailers. I trailered my Mark-3 to and from Monument Valley last May, 7
> hours driving time each way. My trailer is a simple, one axle flatbed, 22
> feet long. My Kolb is secured pointing forward on the trailer. As long as
> you secure everything (i.e., flaps & ailerons not flapping in the wind,
> wings & tail boom supported, etc.), these Kolbs can endure prolonged open
> trailer transporting without problems.
>
> Another benefit of open trailering: You get LOTS of looks from the other
> motorists! (They know a fun thing when they see it.)
>
> But ... I think I want to FLY my plane there next year!
>
> Dennis Kirby
> N93DK, "Magic Bike"
> Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: full enclosures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
> And then you would get EGT's of incredible weirdness. Hot weirdness.
That's true.
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| Subject: | Re: MuttMuffs... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Thanks Dave,
Somebody else sent that address to me too, (Big Lar?)
I wrote them and asked if their "small" would fit my "Min Pin"....
There's a message on their page that sez their working on a Tiny set...
I'm thinkin that's what my dogs gonna need....
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN ( with Jaz in the back )
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Down Suggestions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Inferior ?? After a 5 day - each way - flight from Oregon ?? I don't
t'ink so. It was good to meet you, after reading your stories in UL Flyer.
The lightest tie downs I've seen, and heard good reports on are the ones
where you have 3 long stainless steel rods that you drive at angles thru a
ring. I don't have a name for 'em, but maybe someone can help us out.
The best and neatest tie downs from the wing to the stakes that I've seen
are the ones John Williamson made for his Kolbra. (and probably other
planes before that) Really slick. He might just be talked into sending you
a pic of them. Lar.
----- Original Message -----
From: "TheWanderingWench" <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tie Down Suggestions
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: TheWanderingWench
> <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
>
> Dang - another sign of inferiority to you Kolbers - I
> don't have a wife! And my husband can't stand still.
> If I could add some seats, I could use my 3 Great
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Down Suggestions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
I've seen
| are the ones John Williamson made for his Kolbra. |
Lar.
Don't know if you noticed or not, but John W doesn't use those tie
down points any more. I think you are speaking of the wing fold
attach points, attached to the sheet metal fitting with about 8 ea
1/8" rivets. John W discovered these fittings would pull loose in the
right wind conditions. This year he is wrapping ropes, chains, or
what ever is available around the top lift strut fitting.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Down Suggestions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yah, now that you say it, I remember hearing it, but I still like that
"adjustment" feature on the water ski rope. Lar.
Do not Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tie Down Suggestions
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> I've seen
> Lar.
>
>
> Don't know if you noticed or not, but John W doesn't use those tie
> down points any more. I think you are speaking of the wing fold
> attach points, attached to the sheet metal fitting with about 8 ea
> 1/8" rivets. John W discovered these fittings would pull loose in the
> right wind conditions. This year he is wrapping ropes, chains, or
> what ever is available around the top lift strut fitting.
>
> john h
> mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Down Suggestions |
Don't tie it down Keep flying :o)
Ellery in Maine
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Down Suggestions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
This this link out, it will take you to Sporty's
Pilot Shop they sell the Claw Die Down lit -
weighs 8#, comes with the 3 claw mechanisms,
hammer, stakes, rope,carrying bag. I had heard
these work good, but haven't used one myself. I
would think they should be able to ship it
priority express or mail where you have them fairly quick.
jerb
http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?Product_ID=10258&DID=19
At 09:20 AM 6/14/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by:
>TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
>
>Hi folks,
>
>I just joined the list - after having an incredible
>adventure joining the Monument Valley Kolber's a few
>weeks ago. Met many wonderful folks, who didn't seem
>to care at all that I had flown in (from Oregon) in a
>single seat Maxair Drifter instead of in a Kolb. They
>treated me like I was human anyway! :>)
>
>On the flight, I lost my fantastically light titanium
>tie downs. I can't get another pair now, and I'm
>leaving for the EAA Airshow at Arlington, WA in a few
>weeks, so need to get some soon.
>
>Do any of you have a set of tie downs that you like?
>Suggestions and contact information for obtaining tie
>downs would be appreciated. Weight and size are a
>factor for me, since everything has to be strapped
>down and I already am carrying all my camping gear,
>extra parts, etc. (I don't have a ground crew when I
>fly.)
>
>Thanks -
>
>Arty Trost
>Sandy, Oregon
>
>
>www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com"Life's a daring
>adventureor
>nothing" Helen Keller"I
>refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Down Suggestions |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <jeepacro@cox.net>
LOL!!! A-MEN...
--
Rob.
---- ElleryWeld@aol.com wrote:
> Don't tie it down Keep flying :o)
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> Ellery in Maine
> do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "galen shirley" <oneaviator@msn.com>
I just saw a picture in the photo gallary of a boom tube dolly made by erich weaver.
I could not get an e-mail to go thru to him. Did not see on the list either.
Anybody got an idea of what the saddle is made of?
Thanks
Galen
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| Subject: | Re: boom tube dolly |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
The set up that I have is a plastic water pipe cut in half, just measure the
tube- 6 inches? and buy an 8 or 10 inch diameter piece of the pvc pipe, cut
it in half and put some carpet inside the pipe to cradle the boom tube. The
PVC at that size is big enough and tuff enough to bolt to and handle the
load.
Larry, Oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: "galen shirley" <oneaviator@msn.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:00 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: boom tube dolly
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "galen shirley" <oneaviator@msn.com>
>
> I just saw a picture in the photo gallary of a boom tube dolly made by
> erich weaver. I could not get an e-mail to go thru to him. Did not see
> on the list either. Anybody got an idea of what the saddle is made of?
>
> Thanks
> Galen
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=41144#41144
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