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1. 04:22 AM - Re: Hope I'm not making a big mistake.... (Thom Riddle)
2. 07:50 AM - Re: Hope I'm not making a big mistake.... (RICHARD BUTLER)
3. 11:08 AM - Re: MkIII, suzuki G10 (JetPilot)
4. 11:14 AM - Re: Dirt in the exhaust (JetPilot)
5. 11:40 AM - Re: Twin Engine Firestar 2 (Jim Clayton)
6. 12:49 PM - Re: Twin Engine Firestar 2 (Jim Baker)
7. 02:33 PM - Microlight Championships ()
8. 08:46 PM - Re: Re: MkIII, suzuki G10 (HShack@AOL.COM)
9. 09:04 PM - Re: Twin Engine Firestar 2 (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Hope I'm not making a big mistake.... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Jim,
I started out in GA with a private ticket in 1966 went up to Mooneys
and quit flying for 30+ years while raising a family. When I got back
into flying after retirement I went from a CH701 --> Cherokee 140 -->
Early FIrestar --> Titan Tornado --> Allegro LSA. Of all these, the
FireStar and the Titan were the most fun because of the great
visibility, the Cherokee 140 the least fun and by far the most
expensive. Last annual inspection was over $5k and there was nothing
big wrong with it. Sold it immediately after that.
Sharing overhead and up front costs with one or more owners can be
great. I'm now in my second such deal. One thing no one else has
mentioned that is worth considering. What will be the "partnership"
deal with you and the other 150 owner. Our Allegro is owned by a
corporation we formed to limit each owner/pilot's liability if one of
the other pilots does something stupid and gets someone killed. The PIC
and all owners of an airplane will definitely be named in the lawsuit
that results from a bad accident. If you have any assets you'd like to
keep, like say your house, then you are risking it if you do not have
some sort of limited liability ownership form. An LLC is supposed to
offer this sort of protection as well as a corporation, I'm told. If a
corporation or LLC owns the airplane then the non-PIC
pilots/shareholders do not risk their personal assets, only their share
in the corp/LLC. Another advantage of a corporation is that if any of
the shareholders want to sell their share it is not a sales tax
event.... just like selling shares of Wal-Mart stock. I am not a lawyer
and this is not legal advice just something to consider when sharing
ownership of an airplane with others.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: Hope I'm not making a big mistake.... |
Jim...while I am considering the FF in Texas....and have the inspection
report back on same...it sure makes sense to consider yours here on a
more local level as well.
If you decide you are really happy with the concept of letting go of it
then maybe we should get together.
R Butler
Rimrock
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From: jimhefner<mailto:hefner_jim@msn.com>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com<mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:15 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Hope I'm not making a big mistake....
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jimhefner"
<hefner_jim@msn.com<mailto:hefner_jim@msn.com>>
For those of you that know me well, you know how much I enjoy low and
slow flying and photography in my little yellow Firefly. Well, believe
it or not, I am in the process of buying 1/2 of a Cessna 150 and am
starting work on my GA ticket. I have a new wife and daughter that I
brought to the US from China 3 months ago. When we were in MV in May,
Dave Rains took us all up in his C-175 and we had a great time. I now
find I don't go up to the airport much and when I do go up there I don't
fly very far. I don't see any long trips with plane and trailer like
last year in the future, so I've decided to go the GA route and later I
can fall back to the Sport Pilot rating if desired. I think I will
learn alot getting my GA ticket, which will be inexpensive since all the
lessons are part of the deal on the plane, making it too good a deal to
pass up.... the plane is also 10 min's from my house, compared to 50
min's to the airport where I keep the FF.
After one flight in the 150, I can see I have a lot of adjustments to
make and get used to. The most striking difference is the glide slope
approaching the airstrip! [Shocked]
Eventually I will probably sell the Firefly and trailer, but am in no
hurry on that until I'm sure I'm doing the right thing.
Am I totally crazy or what? :o
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Jim Hefner
Tucson, AZ
Firefly #022 447, 2 blade IVO, BRS-750
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| Subject: | Re: MkIII, suzuki G10 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
The Suzuki engine seems like a really great alternative for the Kolbs. They are
cheap to get, parts are cheap and plentiful, and fuel consumption is very low.
It will be neat to see how they work out on the MK-3's and how their reliability
is.
If the 4 cylinder weighs only 15 pounds more than the 3 cylinder engine, I would
think that the 4 cylinder would be better even for the Firestar. A lot more
power and a lot less vibration for only 15 pounds seems like a real bargain to
me.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Dirt in the exhaust |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
esteuber(at)rochester.rr. wrote:
>
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> My question is this...when you pull?a 2 stroke?through with the rope and it
does not fire, what are the chances of the dirt back sucking into the cylinders.
I know soon as is starts the flow ejects anything in the exhaust but is
there a chance it may have got into the cylinders....2 strokes are funny ducks
!
>
If the dirt and stuff did not come out when you blew air through the exhaust and
handled it, pulling on the rope would not have been enough to break the dirt
loose and suck it in.
Once the engine starts it is a different story. A two stroke engine has very strong
pressure pulses in the exhaust that could very well suck stuff back in when
running. There is a good chance stuff got sucked in once the engine was started.
I would clean that exhaust out with gasoline or something to dissolve
any oil built up, then with soap and high pressure water that would dissolve
any last bit of dirt that might be in there.
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| Subject: | Twin Engine Firestar 2 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jim Clayton <jspc78@yahoo.com>
Hi Bill, Dave/All
I think Bill is onto something: having the props
counter-rotate would have the props pass,moving in the
same direction with respect to the individual blades.
Said another way, if the issue is the coverage of the
two blades, in the current config, with one descending
and one ascending causing a turbulent cavitation
zone then counter-rotating blades would smooth that
zone providing thrust in the zone where they cross.
Some two strokes can be set to run either way, but
must be supported by the manufacturer since there can
be many gotchas that could cause troublenot readily
apparent to the us pilots. Hirth engines tend to be
robust, straight forward designs, so if any two-stroke
will run the other way, I would expect a Hirth to.
The final issue is the belt drive; the belt AND
sprockets must be able to transmit the HP going the
other way. Again I would check with your engine
vendor.
Naturally you will need to somehow swap/reconfigure
the blades the make thrust the other way.
I suspect you might be able to solve this interesting
issue, please keep us posted whatever you decide.
Your efforts have made for some of the more
interesting posts I have seen in awhile, thanks.
Jim Clayton
California
Mark-3X, 912ULS.....Building
www.quantumwrench.com/Kolb.htm
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Food for thought.....
Many years ago when I was young lad, I rode a small
2-stroke motorcycle with point ignition. Not knowing
much mechanically, I messed with the points and got
the timing way out of kilter. The engine would
sometimes run backwards! So, maybe you could adjust
the timing on one of the two engines so it would turn
in the opposite direction. Maybe this would help the
props develop more thrust. Just a weird idea,
possibly good for a few laughs.
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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| Subject: | Twin Engine Firestar 2 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@msbit.net>
> Some two strokes can be set to run either way,
Why go to all that trouble.
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The above represents two engines, back-to-back on the
mounting plate with the counter-rotating shafts mounted below
the crankcases.
> The final issue is the belt drive; the belt AND
> sprockets must be able to transmit the HP going the
> other way
Not a problem...see above.
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
Elmore City, OK
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| Subject: | Microlight Championships |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <jeepacro@cox.net>
Hi all, I was reading the Ulralightflying magazine today and saw that the
US National Micro light championship competitors will perform task and contests
that are designed according to world class specs. What are the task's and contests?
Has anyone on the list participated? Did you like it? Thanks in advance
--
Rob.
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| Subject: | Re: MkIII, suzuki G10 |
In a message dated 6/28/2006 2:10:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
orcabonita@hotmail.com writes:
The Suzuki engine seems like a really great alternative for the Kolbs. They
are cheap to get, parts are cheap and plentiful, and fuel consumption is very
low. It will be neat to see how they work out on the MK-3's and how their
reliability is.
If the 4 cylinder weighs only 15 pounds more than the 3 cylinder engine, I
would think that the 4 cylinder would be better even for the Firestar. A lot
more power and a lot less vibration for only 15 pounds seems like a real bargain
to me.
Mike
Geez, about 4 years ago I checked out the 3 cyl. to go on my FS II &
determined it was just too heavy. The 4 cyl. must run close to 150+ lbs. Besides
the
weight, at somewhere around 70 hp, youd hacw to beef up the cage.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: Twin Engine Firestar 2 |
In a message dated 6/28/2006 2:41:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jspc78@yahoo.com writes:
www.quantumwrench.com/Kolb.htm
Jim,
What a great personal web page you have put together. I just finished
looking over your page pertaining to your Kolb building project. Wow! You are
really doing it right. With all of the metal prep it should last a lifetime.
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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