Kolb-List Digest Archive

Fri 06/30/06


Total Messages Posted: 45



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     1. 05:37 AM - Re: Emailing: PICT0024 (pat ladd)
     2. 05:58 AM - Re: Emailing: PICT0024 (Denny Rowe)
     3. 06:06 AM - Re: Aug Fly-In (John Hauck)
     4. 06:14 AM - Re: Emailing: PICT0024 (John Hauck)
     5. 06:41 AM - Re: Aug Fly-In (Herb Gayheart)
     6. 07:28 AM - First airplane ()
     7. 07:44 AM - Re: First airplane (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
     8. 07:50 AM - Re: First airplane (Herb Gayheart)
     9. 08:05 AM - Re: First airplane (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
    10. 08:07 AM - Re: First airplane (David Lehman)
    11. 08:33 AM - Re: First airplane (Arksey@aol.com)
    12. 08:35 AM - Re: First airplane (David Key)
    13. 08:37 AM - Re: First airplane (Vince Hallam)
    14. 09:24 AM - Re: First airplane (BPA)
    15. 10:56 AM - Re: First airplane (john s. flannery)
    16. 11:04 AM - Re: First airplane (Ron)
    17. 11:06 AM - First Airplane (Lanny Fetterman)
    18. 11:10 AM - Re: Re: First airplane (GeoR38@aol.com)
    19. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: First airplane (robert bean)
    20. 11:22 AM - Re: First airplane (ray anderson)
    21. 11:50 AM - Re: First airplane (russ kinne)
    22. 01:25 PM - Warp Drive hub (Richard Pike)
    23. 01:32 PM - Re: First airplane (John Hauck)
    24. 01:34 PM - Re: First airplane (John Hauck)
    25. 01:37 PM - Re: First airplane (John Hauck)
    26. 01:43 PM - Re: First airplane (David Lehman)
    27. 01:45 PM - Re: Re: First airplane (Bob Noyer)
    28. 01:56 PM - Re: First airplane (John Hauck)
    29. 02:11 PM - Re: Re: First airplane (John Hauck)
    30. 02:13 PM - Re: First airplane (N27SB@aol.com)
    31. 02:21 PM - Re: Re: First airplane (Bob Noyer)
    32. 03:34 PM - Re: First airplane (Mike Schnabel)
    33. 03:54 PM - Re: Re: First airplane ()
    34. 04:17 PM - Re: First airplane (snuffy@usol.com)
    35. 04:27 PM - Vortex Generators (Bill Vincent)
    36. 05:16 PM - Re: First airplane (russ kinne)
    37. 05:34 PM - Re: First airplane (Jim Baker)
    38. 05:37 PM - Re: First airplane (John Hauck)
    39. 06:33 PM - Re: First airplane (ray anderson)
    40. 07:07 PM - Re: First airplane (John Hauck)
    41. 08:18 PM - Riviting Lexan (blackbird)
    42. 08:25 PM - Re: First airplane (HShack@aol.com)
    43. 08:34 PM - Re: First airplane (DAquaNut@aol.com)
    44. 08:34 PM - Re: Riviting Lexan (Richard Pike)
    45. 09:04 PM - Re: Re: First airplane (Ed Chmielewski)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:37:32 AM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Emailing: PICT0024
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> Will it fly?>> Hi John, Yes she will. Added another couple of hours and eight landings in the last few days. The wind has been around 5/10knots and straight down the strip for nearly a week. A record as the wind is at a right angle to the strip nearly all year. Not happy with the trim. Although with Mike Moulai and myself, both above 230/240 lbs in the cockpit the trim was back within three notches of the top, on my own I have the trim right forward and she is stll nose light. A bit of tweaking needed. Cheers Pat do not archive --


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    Time: 05:58:22 AM PST US
    From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Emailing: PICT0024
    Pat, I never got the post with the pics, could you send em to me off list? I seem to not get many many posts these days as well as have many of my posts never make it to the list. ????? Hope this one posts. Denny Rowe rowedl@highstream.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave & Eve Pelletier To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:40 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Emailing: PICT0024 Congratulations...she's a fine looking bird. AzDave ----- Original Message ----- From: pat ladd To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:12 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Emailing: PICT0024 Hi all, I expect that I have got this wrong and sent the whole shebang instead of the couple of pics which I intended to send. Nevertheless in there somewhere are one or two pics of me and the new Xtra. If the whole lot has been sent then there are pics of Wendy in Mick Moulai`s machine as well.. I expect someone will tell me how do do it properly. Cheers Pat ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- No virus found in this incoming message. 6/25/2006


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    Time: 06:06:15 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Aug Fly-In
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> all welcome. still have not met alot of you guys E-mail me or check funflite.com for location. | | Wade | FS2 #1030 Morning Wade: Got some GPS coordinates? Will food be available? Shower? Steambath? Massage? Where is your airstrip located? Looks like a good'un. john h mkIII


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    Time: 06:14:57 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Emailing: PICT0024
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> on my own I have the trim right forward and she is stll nose light. A | bit of tweaking needed. | | Cheers | | Pat You can bring the nose down by slightly drooping the ailerons. Glad you are getting some air time. john h mkIII


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    Time: 06:41:40 AM PST US
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: Aug Fly-In
    Hey Wade I hope to fly down one week end soon.. Putting hours on my Firefly.. Here is the link again in html .. Herb http://www.funflite.com/ On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:52:11 -0700 (PDT) WADE LAWICKI <wlawicki@yahoo.com> writes: Group, Fly-In Aug 12-13 Near middle Tn. overnight camping, all welcome. still have not met alot of you guys E-mail me or check funflite.com for location. Wade FS2 #1030 do not archive


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    Time: 07:28:00 AM PST US
    From: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
    Subject: First airplane
    Sweet Lord A'mighty! The page that the link below goes to shows a weight-shift Eagle, if I'm not mistaken. That's the bird I first learned to fly in. How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one that you actually flew? ----- Original Message ----- From: Herb Gayheart To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Aug Fly-In Hey Wade I hope to fly down one week end soon.. Putting hours on my Firefly.. Here is the link again in html .. Herb http://www.funflite.com/


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    Time: 07:44:26 AM PST US
    From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    My first plane was a Weedhopper model C. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: kfackler@ameritech.net To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: Kolb-List: First airplane Sweet Lord A'mighty! The page that the link below goes to shows a weight-shift Eagle, if I'm not mistaken. That's the bird I first learned to fly in. How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one that you actually flew? ----- Original Message ----- From: Herb Gayheart To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Aug Fly-In Hey Wade I hope to fly down one week end soon.. Putting hours on my Firefly.. Here is the link again in html .. Herb http://www.funflite.com/


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    Time: 07:50:50 AM PST US
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    Sweitzer 2-33. No 2 cycle engine to be concerned with... no engine at all.. :-) I took a few hours training in a 150 and after a long , boring and uncomfortable cross country , I went home and jumped into my MkIII and never looked back... Herb On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:07:48 -0400 <kfackler@ameritech.net> writes: Sweet Lord A'mighty! The page that the link below goes to shows a weight-shift Eagle, if I'm not mistaken. That's the bird I first learned to fly in. How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one that you actually flew? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:37 AM Hey Wade I hope to fly down one week end soon.. Putting hours on my Firefly.. Here is the link again in html .. Herb http://www.funflite.com/


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    Time: 08:05:16 AM PST US
    From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    ----- Original Message ----- From: kfackler@ameritech.net How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one that you actually flew? Quicksilver Sprint or Sport...don't remember which. AzDave Do Not Archive


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    Time: 08:07:46 AM PST US
    From: "David Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    In 1961, I bought a Piper J-3, N42245... 33 airplanes and helicopters sinc e then... DVD On 6/30/06, Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> wrote: > > Sweitzer 2-33. No 2 cycle engine to be concerned with... no engine at > all.. :-) I took a few hours training in a 150 and after a long , borin g > and uncomfortable cross country , I went home and jumped into my MkIII an d > never looked back... Herb > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:07:48 -0400 <kfackler@ameritech.net> writes: > > Sweet Lord A'mighty! > > The page that the link below goes to shows a weight-shift Eagle, if I'm > not mistaken. That's the bird I first learned to fly in. > > How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one that you > actually flew? > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com> > *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Friday, June 30, 2006 9:37 AM > *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Aug Fly-In > > > Hey Wade > > I hope to fly down one week end soon.. Putting hours on my Firefly.. > > Here is the link again in html .. Herb > > http://www.funflite.com/ > > -- "Attitude is everything ~ pick a good one"...


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    Time: 08:33:07 AM PST US
    From: Arksey@aol.com
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    my 1st was a J-3 Cub. Soon will be flying a Kolb Firestar. "For once you have tasted flight, You will walk this earth with your eyes turned skyward. For there you have been, And there you long to return." Jim Swan , Eaton Rapids, Mi 48827


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    Time: 08:35:23 AM PST US
    From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    First One was... A Starflight This was my first powered plane. Do not archive


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    Time: 08:37:42 AM PST US
    From: "Vince Hallam" <vince@devonwindmills.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    answer to poll....Tiger moth at Luton Sept 6 1939 Vince Hallam please phone rather than email for best results! 07941 313141 01803 316191 www.devonwindmills.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard & Martha Neilsen To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane My first plane was a Weedhopper model C. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: kfackler@ameritech.net To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: Kolb-List: First airplane Sweet Lord A'mighty! The page that the link below goes to shows a weight-shift Eagle, if I'm not mistaken. That's the bird I first learned to fly in. How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one that you actually flew? ----- Original Message ----- From: Herb Gayheart To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Aug Fly-In Hey Wade I hope to fly down one week end soon.. Putting hours on my Firefly.. Here is the link again in html .. Herb http://www.funflite.com/


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    Time: 09:24:57 AM PST US
    From: "BPA" <BPA@bpaengines.com>
    Subject: First airplane
    P-51, on a string :-) Allen B. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave & Eve Pelletier Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:04 AM ----- Original Message ----- From: kfackler@ameritech.net How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one that you actually flew? Quicksilver Sprint or Sport...don't remember which. AzDave Do Not Archive


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    Time: 10:56:37 AM PST US
    From: "john s. flannery" <jflan@zianet.com>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    Who knows...Airknocker or Cub? That was 60 years ago. Do not archive. jsf


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    Time: 11:04:56 AM PST US
    From: "Ron" <captainron1@cox.net>
    Subject: First airplane
    C-150 out of Southborough Mass around 1975 (airport closed down a few years later and now it's an industrial park in its place) Ron _____ [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kfackler@ameritech.net Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 7:08 AM Sweet Lord A'mighty! The page that the link below goes to shows a weight-shift Eagle, if I'm not mistaken. That's the bird I first learned to fly in. How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one that you actually flew? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:37 AM Hey Wade I hope to fly down one week end soon.. Putting hours on my Firefly.. Here is the link again in html .. Herb http://www.funflite.com/


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    Time: 11:06:00 AM PST US
    From: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net>
    Subject: First Airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net> Quicksilver MX, two axis. It was tough to unlearn those skills when I went to the Firestar II which is three axis. Lanny Fetterman N598LF. BTW My application for amateur built was rejected by the FAA, no reason was given. They sent me new forms to fill out, and put me in the ELSA catagory.


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    Time: 11:10:50 AM PST US
    From: GeoR38@aol.com
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    65 hp Taylorcraft, in '57, then Schweitzer 233 in '80, then Pterodactyl in '83, then Kolb Firestar George Randolph firestar driver


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    Time: 11:18:50 AM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> John, I'd trade my MkIII even for one of these. 37 hp would make things fun: http://www.goldenageair.org/collection/1932taylore2.htm Cessna 140, 1963, Griffiss AFB aero club. If I'd stayed with it instead of buying a car to chase wimmen, they had two mint Beech T 34s to fly after you got your ticket. -BB do not archive On 30, Jun 2006, at 2:53 PM, john s. flannery wrote: > Who knows...Airknocker or Cub? That was 60 years ago. > Do not archive. > > jsf >


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    Time: 11:22:52 AM PST US
    From: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    Curtis Wright Jr. .45hp Szekley ... 1936 kfackler@ameritech.net wrote: Sweet Lord A'mighty! The page that the link below goes to shows a weight-shift Eagle, if I'm not mistaken. That's the bird I first learned to fly in. How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one that you actually flew? ----- Original Message ----- From: Herb Gayheart To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Aug Fly-In Hey Wade I hope to fly down one week end soon.. Putting hours on my Firefly.. Here is the link again in html .. Herb http://www.funflite.com/ --------------------------------- Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.


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    Time: 11:50:57 AM PST US
    From: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    First time ever off the ground -- Navy SNJ, and I got sick! -- military, bored, hotshot pilot seeing how much I could take. We both found out. First PIC a Cessna 172, not exciting but a safe, stable aircraft. Nowhere near as 'good' as my beloved 170. Russ Kinne do not archive On Jun 30, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Ron wrote: > C-150 out of Southborough Mass around 1975 (airport closed down a > few years later and now it=92s an industrial park in its place) > > > Ron > > > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kfackler@ameritech.net > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 7:08 AM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: First airplane > > > Sweet Lord A'mighty! > > > The page that the link below goes to shows a weight-shift Eagle, if > I'm not mistaken. That's the bird I first learned to fly in. > > > How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one > that you actually flew? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Herb Gayheart > > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:37 AM > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Aug Fly-In > > > Hey Wade > > > I hope to fly down one week end soon.. Putting hours on my > Firefly.. > > > Here is the link again in html .. Herb > > > http://www.funflite.com/ > >


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    Time: 01:25:26 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Warp Drive hub
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> I have a 2 blade Warp Drive prop hub for sale on ebay, and it looks like it's not going to bring very much, currently less than $7, plus $12 shipping. So if any of you have a 3 blade Warp, and have thought of experimenting with a 2 blade Warp Drive prop, here's your chance to do it cheap. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=180001664911&ih=008&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=180001664911&ih=008&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT> Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive


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    Time: 01:32:47 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> -How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one that you actually flew? Well, I solo's a Hughes TH-55 helicopter in September 1968. Was a wonderful time indeed. By this time I had accepted the fact that I would probably never get to go to flight school in the Army. However, at the ripe old age of 29 and a senior Captain, I had made it. My first fixed wing flight as Pilot In Command was my Ultrastar. Built and flown July 1984. This was my first flight and also my solo flight in a fixed wing aircraft. Don't recommend anyone else being that stupid. First GA type solo flight was a Cessna 152 in June 1990. Needed a Private ticket to fly the mkIII that I was building. Never got more than 20 or so hours in the Cessna's. Could not wait to get back in a Kolb. I did get an hour in a 152 two years later because I could not find a CFI that would give me a BFR in my mkIII. john h mkIII


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    Time: 01:34:41 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> In 1961, I bought a Piper J-3, N42245... 33 airplanes and helicopters since then... DVD Looks like you did more buying than flying. ;-) I have built and owned three aircraft: Ultrastar Firestar mkIII More than 14 years and 2,500 hours in the mkIII. Hard to believe I could get one to last that long. The first two did not take me long to wear out. hehehe john h mkIII


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    Time: 01:37:36 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> answer to poll....Tiger moth at Luton Sept 6 1939 Vince Hallam Vince, my friend: I was 4 months, 28 days old on that date. Time for us to have lunch again. When are you coming back over to the US? and Sun and Fun? john h mkIII


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    Time: 01:43:43 PM PST US
    From: "David Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    Wish I had been more like you... There were several "keepers" in the bunch that I wish I had now... Up until 16 years ago I was a GA mechanic and my Dad was a Beechcraft dealer... It was an excellent vehicle to buy, fix up, fly and sell (hopefully for profit) aircraft... It was my whole life and I really didn' t have an additional life... DVD do not archive On 6/30/06, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > > In 1961, I bought a Piper J-3, N42245... 33 airplanes and helicopters > since > then... > > DVD > > > Looks like you did more buying than flying. ;-) > > I have built and owned three aircraft: > > Ultrastar > Firestar > mkIII > > More than 14 years and 2,500 hours in the mkIII. Hard to believe I > could get one to last that long. The first two did not take me long > to wear out. hehehe > > john h > mkIII > > -- "Attitude is everything ~ pick a good one"...


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    Time: 01:45:59 PM PST US
    From: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net> First 1/4 airplane: '37 Aeronca C-3 with 3 cyl 37hp (on a good day) Szekley (pronounced shay-kay, not zeek-lee), four-way partnership, '40. regards, Bob N. http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/


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    Time: 01:56:58 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Sheezzzz! That was three years prior to birth date. hehehe john h mkIII


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    Time: 02:11:50 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> | Szekley (pronounced shay-kay, not zeek-lee), four-way partnership, '40. | | regards, | Bob N. Grey Baron: You told me a Wright Flyer........................ john h mkIII


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    Time: 02:13:18 PM PST US
    From: N27SB@aol.com
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    First solo was a PA-140 in Nov 1972 First solo in a plane I owned was a Rutan Long-EZ I built. Jan 7, 1985 The most Fun overall is Firefly #007 on floats All three of these craft are still in service today. Steve Boetto


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    Time: 02:21:34 PM PST US
    From: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net> John, Wrong Flyer! Bob N. do not archive


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    Time: 03:34:10 PM PST US
    From: Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com>
    Subject: First airplane
    First flight... 1974, Piper Cherokee (toy on a string, hooked it to a chair back, then tugged... landed it on a paper runway)... But it that does not count, fast forward to... First Solo flight... 5/3/87, Wills Wing Raven 209 (Hang Glider) at Lookout Mountain Flight Park, . The view from the launch pad was awesome, the view after leaving the launch pad that first time... priceless! First powered solo flight 12/7/87, Cessna 152 (ho hum...), Smyrna TN... First Ultralight solo flight 1/3/88 Sorrell Hyperlight with a 277 (you might already have guessed the next line), Eagleville TN... First Ultralight dead stick landing 1/3/88 (yep, first flight was also first engine out landing!), Eagleville TN... First Kolb flight... hopefully later this summer! Mike S Manchester TN Firestar2 503 BPA <BPA@bpaengines.com> wrote: P-51, on a string J Allen B. -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:04 AM ----- Original Message ----- From: kfackler@ameritech.net How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one that you actually flew? Quicksilver Sprint or Sport...don't remember which. AzDave Do Not Archive --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.


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    Time: 03:54:14 PM PST US
    From: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: <kfackler@ameritech.net> Wow! All these replies and nobody got annoyed at anyone else. Whooo hooo! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Texan (talking to a Yankee): Why did the chicken cross the road? Yankee: I don't know. Texan: To prove to armadillos that it _can_ be done! do not archive


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    Time: 04:17:12 PM PST US
    From: snuffy@usol.com
    Subject: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com First flight at Davis Air Service Chehalis, Washington in 1957 in my Dad's Aeronica Chief. First solo 1970 in my Dad's 47 PA12. My first plane a 47 C-120 Spam Can.


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    Time: 04:27:42 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
    Subject: Vortex Generators
    Hi Gang Just received my July 2006, EAA Sport Pilot magazine.On page 27, there is a story about vortex generators, cuffs, fences and stall strips. Since there has been numerous discussions on this subject I thought some of you may be interested in the article. Bill Vincent Firestar II Upper Peninsula of Michigan


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    Time: 05:16:42 PM PST US
    From: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net> John Hauck How could you have flown a stork pre-natally??? By three years? do not archive On Jun 30, 2006, at 4:56 PM, John Hauck wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > Sheezzzz! > > That was three years prior to birth date. hehehe > > john h > mkIII > >


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    Time: 05:34:00 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@msbit.net>
    Subject: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@msbit.net> I wasn't , then though, ah what the heck.... First flight...before I can remember accurately. My first big impression was riding in the back of Pop's 170 somewhere around '57 as he flew over to a towered/lighted airport to do night landings and sim ILS approaches. I remember that one because there was a grasshopper hanging on to the strut and I was fascinated with his gripping power. Fell off after 20 min. Soloed a J3 in '68. Soloed a Navion in '69. Got time in a Citabria, PA-11, PA-18. I recall winning a dinky trophy for a fuel consumption contest at a Navion fly-in...off by just .2 gal. Also recall that there was a vent in the roof of the Navion that the back seat pax could open and, if you're young and bored and just riding along somewhere, one could sneak on a roll of toilet paper, feed one end out the vent and let suction do the rest by unwinding it out into the ether. Always wondered what folks on the ground thought about that. "Look, Ma!" Didn't do much of anything for quite awhile til getting a private ticket in 2002. But I wasn't stuck on the ground, either. As an Air Traffic type for Uncle, we could get familiarization flights if we did something to wow the front office. Not that I was any great shakes but always managed to latch on to some project that gained some modicum of notoriety (to be fair, some of the rides simply involved calling the Command Post and asking what was going out and could I get a ride). Through this mechanism I got rides in: UH-1, T-28, U-8, U-21, OV-10, T-38, C-141, C-5, C-23, F-111, F-4, KC-135, KC-10, KC-97, C-121, T-39, T37, C-130 (including assault strip landings and takeoffs plus LAPES drops while standing in the door), C-119, C-123, and a couple others I've probably forgotten. I must say that the Aarvark was the most impressive of the lot. Did a max climb to 45K then down over the Wash (NW East Anglia, UK) and then up to Mach 1 toward Skegness and then back to RAF Lakenheath. What impressed me was tha lack of noise. That was one big electric machine...just a hum and a whoosh. I also recall that they didn't give me a correct pre-flight brief in the cockpit mock-up. After I was in the airplane I'd hooked up the oxygen mask to the console and flipped the selector in the direction and number of clicks that I was told to (selector was a by-feel affair, to my left- rear and behind my line of sight)....not the right result. There was vastly reduced flow but marginally sufficient. The pilot asked how I was doing and I asked is it normally like this, hard to breath? He said "Oh crap!" and flipped the selector one more notch....big old blast of oxy that literally forced the mask off my face for a second then calmed down. Built FS 2 in 1994. Soled a 152 and 172 in 2002. Bought a Bellanca Viking (complex/high perf) in 2003 while having a grand total of 120 hours. That's turning out to be a money pit. The plane is basically OK but the systems are a bit long in the tooth. The engine cranckcase cracked about 3/4 of the way around #6 cylinder the Friday before Mother's Day. Got it on the ground in Beckley, WV and have bought a Continental rebuilt ($27k) and R&R'ing various components, including the prop which, I learned this morning, needs a new hub to the tune of $3.2k. I keep telling folks this is like giving a diamond to a pig. But a fast pig at that...just before the crack I was tooling along at 180kts. The adventure contines.... Jim Baker 580.788.2779 Elmore City, OK


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    Time: 05:37:53 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> | How could you have flown a stork pre-natally??? By three years? Russ: Don't think I know what you are talking about. Should have listed part of the referenced msg from Ray Anderson. Ray said he soloed in 1936. That was three years prior to my birth date. Don't remember flying a stork, but flew an old ragged Ultrastar for a gentleman that flew like a turkey. john h mkIII


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    Time: 06:33:11 PM PST US
    From: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    John, I actually soloed in 1935 and bought the mate to my solo airplane, Curtiss Jr. in 1936. Got a lot of riding time with my instructor in his Cessna AW, the first Cessna with a cantilever wing. Tube, fabric and wood construction. Pilot up front in single seat, two passengers behind. Also in his 1932 Cabin Waco. Can't remember the model. Every thing free and easy without much interference from the Feds. John, you would have been in hog heaven back then. John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | How could you have flown a stork pre-natally??? By three years? Russ: Don't think I know what you are talking about. Should have listed part of the referenced msg from Ray Anderson. Ray said he soloed in 1936. That was three years prior to my birth date. Don't remember flying a stork, but flew an old ragged Ultrastar for a gentleman that flew like a turkey. john h mkIII --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1/min.


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    Time: 07:07:00 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Every thing free and easy without much interference from the Feds. John, you would have been in hog heaven back then. | Ray: You got that right. I never enjoyed flying so much until I built the Ultrastar. Pretty much flew it and the Firestar when, where, and how I wanted to. Figured if the Feds got on me I could always plead ignorance. Funny how things, my attitude, changed once I got the mkIII with an N number stuck on its tail. Felt better because I was finally legal, but really toned down my flying. Other morning I realized my Class III physical would expire the last of this month, well..........tomorrow. Called Doc Foshee over in Clanton. He is retired, but still gives flight physicals in his home which in right next to the airport. Doc said come on over and get my physical. Got to my airstrip and the cows had crapped all over the north end and the little parking area in front of the hangers. I have never seen so much cow crap in one area in my life. Didn't have time to the one of the tractors to drag it, so that cut my 750 ft strip to about 350 ft. Now sweat. Got out with no problem. Landed at Clanton Airport, taxied overe to the NW corner of the field, up next to the fence. Hopped the fence, walked about a block to Doc's house. Got my physical and was back in the airplane in 20 minutes. Now my problem was getting back into my strip without hitting cow crap. No wind to help, but got her in and stopped before we got to the "mined" end of the strip. So...I am good to go for another two years. Got my BFR while on my flight out West. Need to sign off my Annual Inspection, and I am good to go. Take care, john h mkIII PS: Nice living and flying in a small town atmosphere.


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    Time: 08:18:36 PM PST US
    From: "blackbird" <blackbird754@alltel.net>
    Subject: Riviting Lexan
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "blackbird" <blackbird754@alltel.net> I am wondering what you guys do to rivit the lexan to the frame....I have done this panel twice now and have cracks starting in 24 hours....Am I pulling them too tight...I have already opened the rivit hole in the lexan up some... Very frustrating.... Wayne Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=44074#44074


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    Time: 08:25:44 PM PST US
    From: HShack@aol.com
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    My first is also my present- Kolb Firestar II, first flown in '98. Howard Shackleford FS II SC


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    Time: 08:34:15 PM PST US
    From: DAquaNut@aol.com
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    My first plane and solo was in a Wizard J-3 in 1981 I believe. Took 3.5 hours time in a Champ 7-ac I believe it was. Ed Diebel Firefly # 62


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    Time: 08:34:30 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Riviting Lexan
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Drill the holes a generous size larger than the rivet. Use aluminum rivets. The lexan will expand and contract differently than the aluminum or steel framework, give it room to move. Make sure it is real Lexan and not acrylic or plexiglas. Anything with superglue or mek or lacquer thinner in it will make Lexan/Acrylic/Plexiglas go bad and crack. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) blackbird wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "blackbird" <blackbird754@alltel.net> > > I am wondering what you guys do to rivit the lexan to the frame....I have done this panel twice now and have cracks starting in 24 hours....Am I pulling them too tight...I have already opened the rivit hole in the lexan up some... > > > Very frustrating.... > > > Wayne > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=44074#44074 > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:04:40 PM PST US
    From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com> Rumor has it that Icarus signed his logbook. Ed in JXN (MI) Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:10 PM > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > '40. > > > Grey Baron: > > You told me a Wright Flyer........................ > > john h > mkIII




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