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1. 03:02 AM - Re: First airplane (ElleryWeld@AOL.COM)
2. 03:27 AM - Re: Riviting Lexan (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
3. 04:02 AM - first airplane (Edward Steuber)
4. 05:43 AM - Re: Riviting Lexan (blackbird)
5. 05:59 AM - Re: Re: Riviting Lexan (John Hauck)
6. 05:59 AM - Re: First airplane (Denny Rowe)
7. 06:47 AM - Re: Re: First airplane (russ kinne)
8. 06:55 AM - Re: Re: First airplane (David Lehman)
9. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: Riviting Lexan (Herb Gayheart)
10. 07:27 AM - Re: First airplane (Michael Sharp)
11. 08:07 AM - Re: Re: Riviting Lexan (robert bean)
12. 08:16 AM - Moving Down in Engine Size (Jack B. Hart)
13. 09:21 AM - First Airplane (Bill Vincent)
14. 09:28 AM - Re: First airplane (EnaudZ@aol.com)
15. 10:10 AM - Re: First airplane (RICHARD BUTLER)
16. 10:22 AM - Re: First airplane (George Myers)
17. 10:22 AM - Re: First airplane ()
18. 10:46 AM - Re: Riviting Lexan (Roger Lee)
19. 10:59 AM - Re: First Airplane (John Hauck)
20. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: First airplane (Bob Noyer)
21. 11:50 AM - Re: Re: First airplane (Bob Noyer)
22. 12:13 PM - Kolb inside photo's (Ron)
23. 02:13 PM - Re: Warp Drive hub (Richard Pike)
24. 03:06 PM - Re: First airplane (russ kinne)
25. 03:10 PM - Re: Re: First airplane (russ kinne)
26. 03:23 PM - Re: First airplane (Herb Gayheart)
27. 04:48 PM - Re: First airplane (Eugene Zimmerman)
28. 07:32 PM - Re: First airplane (frank & margie)
29. 08:28 PM - Re: Kolb inside photo's (Ron)
30. 08:36 PM - Re: Kolb inside photo's (David Key)
31. 08:42 PM - Re: Kolb inside photo's (planecrazzzy)
32. 08:52 PM - It's been two years (Craig Nelson)
33. 09:09 PM - Re: It's been two years (Richard Pike)
34. 09:31 PM - vibration damper? (Don Martin)
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36. 11:31 PM - Official Kolb-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
I have had plenty of remote controll airplanes that is how I learned how to
fly then I bought a Vector 627 SR U/L and been flying since but I get the most
enjoyment Flying the tricked out Firestar
Ellery in Maine
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| Subject: | Re: Riviting Lexan |
Wayne
are you using aluminum rivits?
Ellery
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Soloed my dads Aeronca Chief out of our farm strip in 1963 at 16 years
old in Holley NY...
ED in Western NY
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| Subject: | Re: Riviting Lexan |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "blackbird" <blackbird754@alltel.net>
Ok guys,
I am using aluminum rivits and was wondering do I enlarge the hole one size up
....Have got a couple of responses on using washers also....and do I hand pull
them....
Wayne
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=44114#44114
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| Subject: | Re: Riviting Lexan |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
one size up ....Have got a couple of responses on using washers
also....and do I hand pull them....
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| Wayne
Wayne/All:
Over the past several years, I have noticed quality of "lexan" has
deteriorated. Couple years ago I replaced the lexan in one of my
doors with some "no name" polycarbonate. Within days I noticed
several rivet holes were experiencing stress cracks. Stop drilled and
no more problems.
In the old days, Lexan brand polycarbonate manufactured by GE seldom,
if ever, stress cracked, unless there was quite some age on the
material.
Never had to enlarge holes to prevent cracks. However, seemed to
payoff to debur these holes. Seemed the polycarbonate would react
like steel and aluminum if each hole was not deburred. Sometimes it
is impossible to debur. So....I go for it and hope it does not crack.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
Built 1981 Pterodactyl Ptraveler
First flight 1982.
A friend still flies that bird, or at least some of the pieces. :-)
Denny Rowe, Mk-3
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Bob
Dint you glue feathers onto your arms with beeswax?
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On Jun 30, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Bob Noyer wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
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> John,
> Wrong Flyer!
> Bob N.
> do not archive
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> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> wiki.matronics.com
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>
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
His wife made him do it, something about a snake and an apple...
DVD
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On 7/1/06, russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
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> Bob
> Dint you glue feathers onto your arms with beeswax?
> do not archive
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>
--
"Attitude is everything ~ pick a good one"...
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| Subject: | Re: Riviting Lexan |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Guys
Never tried it but am promised that a small rubber O ring in each
enlarged hole prevents crazing , Herb
On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 07:58:14 -0500 "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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> | I am using aluminum rivits and was wondering do I enlarge the
> hole
> one size up ....Have got a couple of responses on using washers
> also....and do I hand pull them....
>
> Wayne/All:
>
> Over the past several years, I have noticed quality of "lexan" has
> deteriorated. Couple years ago I replaced the lexan in one of my
> doors with some "no name" polycarbonate. Within days I noticed
> several rivet holes were experiencing stress cracks. Stop drilled
> and
> no more problems.
>
> In the old days, Lexan brand polycarbonate manufactured by GE
> seldom,
> if ever, stress cracked, unless there was quite some age on the
> material.
>
> Never had to enlarge holes to prevent cracks. However, seemed to
> payoff to debur these holes. Seemed the polycarbonate would react
> like steel and aluminum if each hole was not deburred. Sometimes it
>
> is impossible to debur. So....I go for it and hope it does not
> crack.
>
> john h
> mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
Trained in a 152 '85
Bought a '63 Musketeer, flew it for 5 or 6 yrs
rented 172's and Yankee's since then.
kfackler@ameritech.net wrote: Sweet Lord A'mighty!
The page that the link below goes to shows a weight-shift Eagle, if I'm not mistaken.
That's the bird I first learned to fly in.
How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one that you actually
flew?
----- Original Message -----
From: Herb Gayheart
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Aug Fly-In
Hey Wade
I hope to fly down one week end soon.. Putting hours on my Firefly..
Here is the link again in html .. Herb
http://www.funflite.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Riviting Lexan |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
On the tube I fastened the lexan to I ran a strip of electrician's
splicing tape.
It stays soft and gives a cushion to help prevent stress. It also
seals out
moisture.
My windshield frame tubes are steel tube with nutserts and stainless
10-32 screws.
So far no problems with loosening even though I don't have them squeezed
down tight.
-BB
On 1, Jul 2006, at 10:12 AM, Herb Gayheart wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
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> Guys
>
> Never tried it but am promised that a small rubber O ring in each
> enlarged hole prevents crazing , Herb
>
>
> On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 07:58:14 -0500 "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> writes:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>>
>> | I am using aluminum rivits and was wondering do I enlarge the
>> hole
>> one size up ....Have got a couple of responses on using washers
>> also....and do I hand pull them....
>> |
>> |
>> | Wayne
>>
>> Wayne/All:
>>
>> Over the past several years, I have noticed quality of "lexan" has
>> deteriorated. Couple years ago I replaced the lexan in one of my
>> doors with some "no name" polycarbonate. Within days I noticed
>> several rivet holes were experiencing stress cracks. Stop drilled
>> and
>> no more problems.
>>
>> In the old days, Lexan brand polycarbonate manufactured by GE
>> seldom,
>> if ever, stress cracked, unless there was quite some age on the
>> material.
>>
>> Never had to enlarge holes to prevent cracks. However, seemed to
>> payoff to debur these holes. Seemed the polycarbonate would react
>> like steel and aluminum if each hole was not deburred. Sometimes it
>>
>> is impossible to debur. So....I go for it and hope it does not
>> crack.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
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>>
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| Subject: | Moving Down in Engine Size |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
Kolbers,
In the May, 2006, Sport Pilot, there is an article written by Al Painton who
lives at Painton, Missouri. He describes the re-engining of his RANS S-7.
If you have not read this article, it may well be worth your time to dig it
out and read it.
Painton, Missouri, was the home (ten years) of my old EAA Chapter 453.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Hi Gang
Here is a picture of my first airplane which was a T-Bird; I had approximately
200 hours on the plane before I "crashed" behind a house, luckily my injuries
were minimal. Although I enjoyed the T-Bird, it does not compare to the fun I
have with the Firestar II.
Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Upper Peninsula of Michigan
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=44150#44150
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/t_bird_372.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
Hello
Maxair Hummer!!!!
Duane Zollinger FS2 Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
Cessna 180 Floats
from Kenmore Air Harbor
Lk Union
Seattle.
R Butler
Rimrock, AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: EnaudZ@aol.com<mailto:EnaudZ@aol.com>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com<mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane
Hello
Maxair Hummer!!!!
Duane Zollinger FS2 Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
After 58 years of yearning, in April of 2003, I bought a Pterodactyl Pfle
dge
rented a shed from a farmer who didn't mind me using his driveway as a
runway and proceeded to teach myself to fly. After a week of crow hops, 2
bent axles, and a ground loop, I lined it up on the driveway, set my mout
h
right, and turned that little cayuna (Indian for "falls from sky") loose.
And yes, it was all I had dreamed & more. The mixture of exhilaration and
apprehension was intense and the hook was set.
That fall I bought a 1985 Quicksilver MX Super Acrobatic and taught mysel
f
to do loops, rolls, and fly upside down. The next summer I earned a BFI f
rom
a local CFI in San Antonio and bought a Kolb Twinstar MK1 with a bent win
g &
a busted axle. As I began repairing the wing, I kept going a little furth
er,
until I decided to do a complete rebuild, recover, and repaint. Now, 2 ye
ars
later I have it all rebuilt, primered, and partially recovered, but WOW,
there sure are a lotsa pieces and GOO! Compared to fixing Quicksilvers th
at
is, which I have done plenty of.
I'm now flying a 2003 Quicksilver MXLII with a 582 and giving lessons to
a
few local enthusiasts.
I started monitoring this list when I bought the Twinstar and have really
enjoyed the knowledge, insight and chuckles it has given me every morning
=2E
Almost as good as a cup of coffee.
OH, and thanks to all the old timer first flight stories, at 61, I feel l
ike
kid again.
George
George E. Myers Jr.
1500 IH 35 S
San Marcos, TX 78666
512-353-4860
http://geohome.sytes.net
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
Just for grins, I've recorded all the responses to this poll so far and
posted them on a webpage. If you're interested, here's the URL:
http://www.kfackler.com/kolb/first_plane.html
-Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: RICHARD BUTLER
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane
Cessna 180 Floats
from Kenmore Air Harbor
Lk Union
Seattle.
R Butler
Rimrock, AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: EnaudZ@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane
Hello
Maxair Hummer!!!!
Duane Zollinger FS2 Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: Riviting Lexan |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
Hi All,
Here are some tips from my helicopter building days, plus a plane or two.
By the way my first plane was a swing seat 15 hp. quicksilver in 1980. Then a quicksilver
mx in 1982.
Ok back to the problem at hand.
First we had to sand, polish and slightly bevel the all around the edges of the
lexan with very very fine sandpaper. The manufactures were very insistant about
polishing the edges. I guess sharp straight edges can crack easier than beveled
polished edges.
We were taught to drill the lexan or plexiglass one drill bit oversize to allow
for vibration (a killer) and expansion. Use a reamer to knock the sharp edges
off your drilled holes on both sides.
We usually used screws because you can control the amount of torque on the screw
easier than a pop rivet and it is easier to replace or remove if need arises.
If you use pop rivets use aluminum and use a small size. If you use large pop
rivets then you put to much torque on the lexan before the rivet pops. Many
of our builders would also use a plastic washer between the screw head and the
plastic. I did worked well.
Using this procedure, we never had stress cracks. I learned this procedure right
from two different manufactures. The guys who did not do it this way always
had a crack somewhere sometime. As the body twist and expands, plus the glass
expanding something has to give, be it a slightly larger hole that allows movement
or the stress will find you a weak spot to crack.
This was really important for our helicopters because of the vibration and sometimes
the very large plexiglass or lexan area for the front windscreen and or
doors.
It has always worked for me and I have never had to stop drill any of my projects.
My Mark III, which I bought already built, now has pop rivets that I think
are too tight and I have a couple of stop drill sites.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=44171#44171
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| Subject: | Re: First Airplane |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Bill Vincent
Bill V:
Affectionately referred to the two place T-Bird at the Flight Farm,
Monterey, NY, back in '88 and '89, as the flying anchor. Never flew
in it, but watched it fly a lot when I would be there to attend the
annual flyins.
Glad you became a Kolb convert!
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
Ed C: No, you are Daedalus wrong! Cain't harly fly holdin' onta a
log, much less a book.
Russ: None of yer beeswax! They weren't feth-hers, they wuz jes lef'
over loose skin frum where Ah lost 10 ugly pounds.
John: Y'awl stop this here defamation, lessen Ah have Farmer Brown
sic his cows onta yer machine, an' eat yer elevators off.
An' furthermore, Ah wuz pro-pelled by flappin mah lips. Gonna shoot
off mah mouf fer Glorious Fourth of Jul.
Y'all be careful over the Fourth...Best seat in the house fer
fireworks is a couple thousand feet (not available to FAR103 vehicles).
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
An' this just in
Dave: Speaking of Apples: My "new" iMac G-5 got lightning-stroked in
her Ethernet card, but was within year's warranty by FOUR days!
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Kolb inside photo's |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ron <CaptainRon1@cox.net>
Folks as most of you know I am still in the process of building the
M3X I may even beat B.L. for that record.
However I am trying to finish it off as soon as I can before i get
another flying job and away I go in pursuit of $$$$.
Anyway I see photo's here of the various Kolbs most of which look
better than what I predict will be my final product, I am always
wanting to see photo's of the inside pod. Maybe there are some ideas
that I can adopt. I am big on ergonomics and can only at this point
estimate what will be comfortable during flight. Seeing pics of other
Kolbs especially those that have been flying a while, and modified
for sitting and piloting comfort will add a lot to our knowledge
base. I know J.H. has spent more time in his M3 than all, however I
don't remember any pics of the inside, or for that matter of many
others. I saw some of the FS and some great video of a couple of
those flying. Also would be interesting to see the instruments that
many think are needed in addition to the FAR's minimum required.
Ron
Arizona
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| Subject: | Re: Warp Drive hub |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Nope. All you have to do is beat the next highest bidder.
Which - as of 4:10 Eastern time on Saturday, was $13.
So bid $26 and maybe you'll get it.
(But check again just before the auction ends just in case)
And it is item # 180001664911
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Ron wrote:
If I am not too late!
Richard do you have a minimum price for all that stuff?
Ron
Arizona
==============================================
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> I have a 2 blade Warp Drive prop hub for sale on ebay, <snip>
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
George
You ARE a kid at 61! -- ask Bob Noyer, or for that matter, me .
Thanx for an entertaining recap of your early flights --
Russ
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On Jul 1, 2006, at 1:20 PM, George Myers wrote:
> After 58 years of yearning, in April of 2003, I bought a
> Pterodactyl Pfledge, rented a shed from a farmer who didn't mind me
> using his driveway as a runway and proceeded to teach myself to
> fly. After a week of crow hops, 2 bent axles, and a ground loop, I
> lined it up on the driveway, set my mouth right, and turned that
> little cayuna (Indian for "falls from sky") loose. And yes, it was
> all I had dreamed & more. The mixture of exhilaration and
> apprehension was intense and the hook was set.
> That fall I bought a 1985 Quicksilver MX Super Acrobatic and taught
> myself to do loops, rolls, and fly upside down. The next summer I
> earned a BFI from a local CFI in San Antonio and bought a Kolb
> Twinstar MK1 with a bent wing & a busted axle. As I began repairing
> the wing, I kept going a little further, until I decided to do a
> complete rebuild, recover, and repaint. Now, 2 years later I have
> it all rebuilt, primered, and partially recovered, but WOW, there
> sure are a lotsa pieces and GOO! Compared to fixing Quicksilvers
> that is, which I have done plenty of.
> I'm now flying a 2003 Quicksilver MXLII with a 582 and giving
> lessons to a few local enthusiasts.
> I started monitoring this list when I bought the Twinstar and have
> really enjoyed the knowledge, insight and chuckles it has given me
> every morning. Almost as good as a cup of coffee.
> OH, and thanks to all the old timer first flight stories, at 61, I
> feel like kid again.
> George
>
> George E. Myers Jr.
> 1500 IH 35 S
> San Marcos, TX 78666
> 512-353-4860
> http://geohome.sytes.net
>
> Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
I shoulda realized you are so good at flapping your lips that you
could get airborne that way.
You lost 10 ugly pounds? Did you cut off your head???!
as JH would say, hehehe
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On Jul 1, 2006, at 2:42 PM, Bob Noyer wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
>
> Ed C: No, you are Daedalus wrong! Cain't harly fly holdin' onta a
> log, much less a book.
> Russ: None of yer beeswax! They weren't feth-hers, they wuz jes
> lef' over loose skin frum where Ah lost 10 ugly pounds.
> John: Y'awl stop this here defamation, lessen Ah have Farmer Brown
> sic his cows onta yer machine, an' eat yer elevators off.
>
> An' furthermore, Ah wuz pro-pelled by flappin mah lips. Gonna shoot
> off mah mouf fer Glorious Fourth of Jul.
>
> Y'all be careful over the Fourth...Best seat in the house fer
> fireworks is a couple thousand feet (not available to FAR103
> vehicles).
>
> regards,
> Bob N.
> http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
>
> do not archive
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> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
Been a great thread.
need to pick the 447 Firefly brains for a minute...
Have about 3 or 4 hours on the bird over the last few days... Today, I
flew from home abt 21 miles to Portland Tenn and then on over to Franklin
Ky(where my EAA chapt is having a flyin on the 8th with the first 80
chowing down for free..(slight donation requested for a cancer
charity..). Then I flew back to a grass strip in Scottsville and on to
my strip at home..
Used 3.05 gals and flew about 58 miles with 4 take offs and landings..
EGTs stayed around 1100 at 5800 with chts at 320 to 350. EGTS seemed to
climb toward 1200 from 5200 down to abt 4400.. 60 inch, two blade IVO,
with most of the pitch removed..(prop cut down from 66 inches) . Saw 60
to 70 mph cruise.. Never opened her up except on climb out where I made
abt 6300 rpms. Steep climb out.. How does all of that sound? Thanks
Herb
On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 18:04:06 -0400 russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
writes:
George
You ARE a kid at 61! -- ask Bob Noyer, or for that matter, me .
Thanx for an entertaining recap of your early flights --
Russ
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On Jul 1, 2006, at 1:20 PM, George Myers wrote:
After 58 years of yearning, in April of 2003, I bought a Pterodactyl
Pfledge, rented a shed from a farmer who didn't mind me using his
driveway as a runway and proceeded to teach myself to fly. After a week
of crow hops, 2 bent axles, and a ground loop, I lined it up on the
driveway, set my mouth right, and turned that little cayuna (Indian for
"falls from sky") loose. And yes, it was all I had dreamed & more. The
mixture of exhilaration and apprehension was intense and the hook was
set.
That fall I bought a 1985 Quicksilver MX Super Acrobatic and taught
myself to do loops, rolls, and fly upside down. The next summer I earned
a BFI from a local CFI in San Antonio and bought a Kolb Twinstar MK1 with
a bent wing & a busted axle. As I began repairing the wing, I kept going
a little further, until I decided to do a complete rebuild, recover, and
repaint. Now, 2 years later I have it all rebuilt, primered, and
partially recovered, but WOW, there sure are a lotsa pieces and GOO!
Compared to fixing Quicksilvers that is, which I have done plenty of.
I'm now flying a 2003 Quicksilver MXLII with a 582 and giving lessons to
a few local enthusiasts.
I started monitoring this list when I bought the Twinstar and have really
enjoyed the knowledge, insight and chuckles it has given me every
morning. Almost as good as a cup of coffee.
OH, and thanks to all the old timer first flight stories, at 61, I feel
like kid again.
George
George E. Myers Jr.
1500 IH 35 S
San Marcos, TX 78666
512-353-4860
http://geohome.sytes.net
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
On Jun 30, 2006, at 10:07 AM, <kfackler@ameritech.net>
<kfackler@ameritech.net> wrote:
> How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one
> that you actually flew?
Ok, someone has to be first with this one.
First solo, Easy-Riser with Chrysler-West Bend turning the fan.
Next a Pterodactyl Ascender ,
Then various Kolbs beginning with the Ultra-Star.
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Eagle weightshift, 1984.
Frank Clyma
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| Subject: | Kolb inside photo's |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ron" <captainron1@cox.net>
That is some nice panel. Will you be using the standard Kolb seats?
Ron
Arizona
==============================
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:11 PM
Not flying yet, two more months... or so....
Hope it helps.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
yes, but I got the space foam seats.
>From: "Ron" <captainron1@cox.net>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Kolb inside photo's
>Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 20:26:23 -0700
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ron" <captainron1@cox.net>
>
>That is some nice panel. Will you be using the standard Kolb seats?
>
>Ron
>Arizona
>==============================
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:11 PM
>
>Not flying yet, two more months... or so....
>
>Hope it helps.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb inside photo's |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Here's a couple of mine....It's from my Firestar II
After these pictures were taken, I've added some RAM mounts for my
GPS's , but I'm still changing them around....I've got to get them in range
of my Bifocals or I can't see them too well....
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=44272#44272
Attachments:
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| Subject: | It's been two years |
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uncle Craig
MkIIIEX 912 ULS WARP WWW.milows.com
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| Subject: | Re: It's been two years |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Congratulations. You have an absolutely beautiful airplane.
May you have zero problems, clear skies, smooth air and tailwinds.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | vibration damper? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Martin" <kolbdriver@hotmail.com>
Saw some info on the list (long time ago) about some kind of stuff used to
dampen the vibration between aluminum tubes that are close to one another.
Can't find this in the archives. Anybody remember?
Got the tail surfaces of the Firestar II covered. Start the wings tomorrow.
Have to have it all done before I move to Texas Aug 1st. Kind of like the
duck moving slowly across the pond...looks calm from above, but paddlin
like hell below.
Don
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
YEAH!!! WOW!!! FABULOUS!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!
Hope to see you in the sky some day.
Arty
--- Craig Nelson <Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com> wrote:
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> MkIIIEX 912 ULS WARP WWW.milows.com
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www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com
"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller
"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Kolb-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Kolb-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Kolb-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Kolb-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Kolb-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Kolb-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Kolb-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Kolb-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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