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1. 03:20 AM - first plane (tc1917)
2. 04:21 AM - Re: First airplane (Mike Schnabel)
3. 05:18 AM - Re: It's been two years (planecrazzzy)
4. 06:32 AM - Re: It's been two years (Todd Fredricks)
5. 06:32 AM - Re: It's been two years (John Hauck)
6. 07:20 AM - Re: First airplane (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
7. 08:50 AM - First flight (Terry)
8. 09:10 AM - Re: It's been two years (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
9. 10:12 AM - Re: First airplane (pat ladd)
10. 10:30 AM - Re: First airplane (pat ladd)
11. 11:04 AM - Re: First airplane (robert bean)
12. 01:57 PM - First airplane website update ()
13. 02:00 PM - Re: First flight (Eugene Zimmerman)
14. 02:58 PM - Re: Re: Kolb inside photo's (Ron)
15. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: Kolb inside photo's (John Hauck)
16. 03:23 PM - Re: Re: Lubricating control cables (DAquaNut@aol.com)
17. 04:08 PM - Re: I need some US struts also, I lost mine. (Rick Miles)
18. 04:58 PM - Re: First flight (Larry Cottrell)
19. 05:38 PM - Re: Re: I need some US struts also, I lost mine. (Richard Girard)
20. 06:24 PM - Re: Lubricating control cables (Max Stanford)
21. 06:55 PM - Re: Re: Lubricating control cables (possums)
22. 09:04 PM - Re: Re: Lubricating control cables (DAquaNut@aol.com)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "tc1917" <tc1917@hughes.net>
My first one was a weight shift eagle. flew it for a couple of years and
got a Cobra. loved it and flew it for about three years. Build an original
Firestar - White Lightn'n - and flew it for three years or so when I
fininished my present play toy, the SlingShot. Loved them all. Self
taught. Like flying a big RC plane only I can go somewhere (as John Hauck
says). Ted Cowan, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
Ken,
Thats very cool! Its interesting to see all the different vehicles we all first
flew. I will check back for updates! One of the more interesting strings we
have had a while... glad its back to being about flying...
Mike S
Manchester TN
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kfackler@ameritech.net wrote:
Just for grins, I've recorded all the responses to this poll so far and
posted them on a webpage. If you're interested, here's the URL:
http://www.kfackler.com/kolb/first_plane.html
-Ken
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From: RICHARD BUTLER
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane
Cessna 180 Floats
from Kenmore Air Harbor
Lk Union
Seattle.
R Butler
Rimrock, AZ
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From: EnaudZ@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane
Hello
Maxair Hummer!!!!
Duane Zollinger FS2 Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: It's been two years |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Are you going to post pictures of repairs after your crash ?
Do you have an "N" number for your plane yet, I can't see it...?
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN / N381PM
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| Subject: | Re: It's been two years |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
That is just super Craig!
Send more photos so we can all enjoy this.
Todd
On 7/1/06 11:51 PM, "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com> wrote:
> ?
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Todd Fredricks, DO
Flying Fox Services
Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com
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| Subject: | Re: It's been two years |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Looks a lot better off the ground than in the trailer.
Congrates on your new ride.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
Update on first airplane plane info first flew in a Vector 627 SR 1994
after working all night putting it together I figured it was ready and so was I
Ellery Batchelder Jr
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Gene,
Cool pictures! Didn't know about the Easy-Riser, what year was that?
Terry
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| Subject: | Re: It's been two years |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Congratulations Uncle Craig...if she flies just half as good as she looks
you're gonna have fun. You've got a winner.
Enjoy,
Azdave
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Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 8:51 PM
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uncle Craig
MkIIIEX 912 ULS WARP WWW.milows.com
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
Hi Vince,
looks as though you have a really pretty set up.
We had a flat at Salcombe for a few years and loved the area.
Do you get to the Faraway Farm fly -in? I made it in the Challenger
last year. May make it in the Kolb this time.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
Sweitzer 2-33. No 2 cycle engine to be concerned with... no engine at
all>>
Thats the way to go Herb.
I also had my first flight in a glider. A Slingsby T21c on 21st June
1964. Soloed 4 hours flying time later which sounds good until you
realise that I had done 54 flights by then.
Soloed in a Grunau, a German high wing single place open cockpit machine
with a glide angle of about 16 to 1. Finished up in a 19metre span
Jantar. plastic all singing hot ship which would do about 40 miles from
5000ft in a straight glide before it hit the ground.
Tried hang gliding in the very early days and broke my leg. When little
engines were added I tried that and didn`t like the `weight shift`
control system. I could fly the thing OK but having to push instead of
pull to make the houses look smaller made it an accident waiting to
happen for my reflexes.
Finally learned to fly ultralights in a Quicksilver with some sort of
tip hinged airflow deflector instead of ailerons, controlled by loops of
string.
Bought a Thruster, then built the Challenger in 91.
Now the Kolb Extra with a Jabiru. Another hour clocked up this morning
in terrible viz and lumpy thermals.
Wish I had the experience some of you chaps have had.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
Interesting how we Kolbers have met in the middle. Some from the early
"real" ultralights and some from the "real" airplanes. Pared it down to
a sensible size. Now when I taxi past a C-172, the thing looks huge,
like
a freight car with wings. -And to think people actually rented those
things
to fly solo for a hamburger! The SUVs of the air.
BB, drives a suzuki on the ground too.
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On 2, Jul 2006, at 1:30 PM, pat ladd wrote:
> Sweitzer 2-33.-- No 2 cycle engine to be concerned with... no
engine
> at all>>
> -
> Thats the way to go Herb.
> -
> I also had my first flight in- a glider. A-Slingsby T21c on 21st
June
> 1964. Soloed 4 hours flying time later which sounds good until you
> realise that I had done 54 flights by then.
> Soloed in a Grunau, a German high wing single place open cockpit
> machine with a glide angle of about 16 to 1. Finished up in a 19metre
> span Jantar.-plastic all singing hot ship which would do about 40
> miles from 5000ft in a straight glide before it hit the ground.
> -
> Tried hang gliding in the very early days and broke my leg. When
> little engines were added I tried that and didn`t like the `weight
> shift` control system. I could fly the thing OK but having to push
> instead of pull to make the houses look smaller made it an accident
> waiting to happen for my reflexes.
> Finally learned to fly ultralights in a Quicksilver with some sort of
> tip hinged airflow deflector instead of ailerons, controlled by loops
> of string.-
> Bought a Thruster, then built the Challenger in 91.
> Now the Kolb Extra with a Jabiru. Another hour clocked up this morning
> in terrible viz and lumpy thermals.
> -
> Wish I had the experience some of you chaps have had.
> -
> Cheers
> -
> Pat
> -
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | First airplane website update |
Fellow Kolb enthusiasts:
I have updated the website with the additions and corrections. I also
prettied it up some with a few Kolb photos. Here is the URL again for
your convenience:
http://www.kfackler.com/kolb/first_plane.html
I've received several comments about how interesting it is to see the
very broad range of entry points we represent into aviation. I couldn't
agree more.
-Ken
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
Thanks Terry,
It was Spring of 1980.
Hope to meet up with you in the air again soon.
On Jul 2, 2006, at 11:48 AM, Terry wrote:
> Gene,
>
> Cool pictures! Didn't know about the Easy-Riser, what year was that?
>
> Terry
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb inside photo's |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ron" <captainron1@cox.net>
Pretty functional and neat.
How comfortable is the seat compared to the factory hammock?
Ron
Arizona
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of planecrazzzy
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 8:42 PM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Here's a couple of mine....It's from my Firestar II
After these pictures were taken, I've added some RAM mounts for my
GPS's , but I'm still changing them around....I've got to get them in range
of my Bifocals or I can't see them too well....
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb inside photo's |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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| Ron
If you are referring to a FS II seat, it does not come with a sling
type seat, but a flat bench type seat, same as a Kolbra, Sling Shot,
and Fire Fly.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Lubricating control cables |
Group,
I am doing my 25 hour maintenance as in the Rotax manual. On page 10-2
line 14 ,under the maintenance schedule it says to lubricate the control cables.
Is this referring to the choke and throttle cables, or the flying surface
cables??? It has a #3 , beside it, which says according to manufacturers
instruction. It is not clear to me what they are suggesting to be oiled. What
is
the easiest way to lubricate the throttle and choke cables as that is what I
think they must mean?
Ed
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| Subject: | Re: I need some US struts also, I lost mine. |
If I would do it again I would use the 03-40000 6061T6 STREAMLINE $65.75 each and
order the ends from Kolb they were about $ 85 then make the spacer for the
end to fit the strut. or you could order all the material from Kolb probly cost
more I think they are the same as the firestar.
Brian Moore <mooreb4@yahoo.com> wrote:
Rick, Thanks
I am asking $3800, firm. In great shape, as far as I
can tell. US is at Mathis airport, near Alpharetta,
GA.
Do you know if the US strut length is standard? I
quess you just get a little more tube than needed and
cut to fit, right?
How much did the components cost you in total?
--- Rick Miles wrote:
> I ordered new strut ends from Kolb then orderered
> the rest from aircraft spuce and made them. how
> mouch for you US?
>
> Brian Moore wrote: Rick,
> Saw your 1/06 Matronics post.
> I've misplaced my struts.
> What have you found out re replacements?
> Thanks, Brian
> Need to sell my US to pay for my new PPC.
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
My first flight as PIC????????? was in my current Firestar II. To my
surprise, I survived it since it was not intentional.
Larry, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: I need some US struts also, I lost mine. |
Brian, I have streamlined tubing struts on my Mk III. When it comes time to
replace them, I'll use round tubes and streamlined covers. The streamlined
tube is more than adequate for lift loads, but I think about them every time
I get dumped out the backside of a Kansas boomer thermal. Round tube with
streamlined covers will let me tailor the tubes to my comfort zone.
On 7/2/06, Rick Miles <ultrastarrick@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> If I would do it again I would use the 03-40000 6061T6 STREAMLINE $65.75
> each and order the ends from Kolb they were about $ 85 then make the spacer
> for the end to fit the strut. or you could order all the material from Kolb
> probly cost more I think they are the same as the firestar.
>
> *Brian Moore <mooreb4@yahoo.com>* wrote:
>
> Rick, Thanks
> I am asking $3800, firm. In great shape, as far as I
> can tell. US is at Mathis airport, near Alpharetta,
> GA.
> Do you know if the US strut length is standard? I
> quess you just get a little more tube than needed and
> cut to fit, right?
> How much did the
>
>
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Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Lubricating control cables |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Max Stanford" <maxstanford77@yahoo.com>
Just think about it for 2 seconds. Is your engine manufacturer going to make a
recommendation of how often to inspect your flying surface cables, especially
being that they have no idea what type of plane it will be installed in ?
This one is a no brainer.
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| Subject: | Re: Lubricating control cables |
At 06:22 PM 7/2/2006, you wrote:
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> Group,
>
> I am doing my 25 hour maintenance as in the Rotax manual. On page
> 10-2 line 14 ,under the maintenance schedule it says to lubricate
> the control cables. Is this referring to the choke and throttle
> cables, or the flying surface cables??? It has a #3 , beside
> it, which says according to manufacturers instruction. It is not
> clear to me what they are suggesting to be oiled. What is the
> easiest way to lubricate the throttle and choke cables as that is
> what I think they must mean?
You can lubricate your choke and throttle cables without taking them
off the carbs.
Part # 7435
CABLE LUBER SYSTEM - $17.95
"Prevent cable freezing and extend cable life by lubricating cable with the
"Cable Luber" system. Special precision machined lube block allows ease
of lubrication between cable and housing without removing the cable.
Just attach the Cable Luber to either end of the cable and insert nozzle
from aerosol can. Specially designed seals in block force lube down
inside cable housing. A must for the serious mechanic. Cable Life Aerosol
lubricates and rustproofs moving parts even at temperatures far below -50
degrees.
Buy it at a Motorcycle shop
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| Subject: | Re: Lubricating control cables |
In a message dated 7/2/2006 8:56:36 P.M. Central Standard Time,
possums@mindspring.com writes:
You can lubricate your choke and throttle cables without taking them off the
carbs.
Part # 7435
CABLE LUBER SYSTEM - $17.95
"Prevent cable freezing and extend cable life by lubricating cable with the
"Cable Luber" system. Special precision machined lube block allows ease
of lubrication between cable and housing without removing the cable.
Just attach the Cable Luber to either end of the cable and insert nozzle
from aerosol can. Specially designed seals in block force lube down
inside cable housing. A must for the serious mechanic. Cable Life Aerosol
lubricates and rustproofs moving parts even at temperatures far below -50
degrees.
Buy it at a Motorcycle shop
Possom,
Thanks for the very helpful info without the useless slam.
That is how the list was designed to work, and it is in spite of certain
individuals. Those of us who have been around a while know who to listen to.
Thanks again,
Ed Diebel (Firefly #62)
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