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1. 04:06 AM - Greetings From Southern Vermont. (Gary L. Knapp)
2. 05:31 AM - Ultrastar Alive (Edward Steuber)
3. 05:46 AM - My FS (Gary L. Knapp)
4. 05:49 AM - Re: Greetings From Southern Vermont. (N111KX (Kip))
5. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: q (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
6. 09:23 AM - Re: Vortex Generators (David Lucas)
7. 10:11 AM - Re: Re: Vortex Generators (John Hauck)
8. 10:29 AM - Re: Re: q (David Key)
9. 11:10 AM - Re: Re: q (robert bean)
10. 01:13 PM - Re: Two Seater time wanted (The BaronVonEvil)
11. 03:05 PM - Check out eBay Motors: Kolb Ultrastar & trailer (item 130002615226 end time J (WillUribe@AOL.COM)
12. 05:46 PM - First Flight (Larry Rice)
13. 05:56 PM - Re: Check out eBay Motors: Kolb Ultrastar & trailer (item 130002615226 end time J (John Hauck)
14. 07:30 PM - Re: One Man Rigging Tip (ElleryWeld@AOL.COM)
15. 07:41 PM - Re: Greetings From Southern Vermont. (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
16. 08:21 PM - runway construction complete (Arksey@aol.com)
17. 08:53 PM - Re: Something New!!!!!! (Richard Swiderski)
18. 09:14 PM - First airplane list ()
19. 09:23 PM - First airplane (possums)
20. 10:15 PM - Re: derigging. (possums)
21. 10:30 PM - First airplane (Domenic Perez)
22. 10:33 PM - Re: Re: Vortex Generators (possums)
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| Subject: | Greetings From Southern Vermont. |
Howdy All.
My name is Gary and I'm a proud owner of a 92' Firestar.
I have been sandbaggin here for a while and have read some great posts
that have answered some questions I had.
I haven't had my bird up yet, as my GA instructor thinks I need a little
training on it. (He just wants to fly it himself).
I have about 30 hrs in a 172 & Cherokee 140, Flew a 41' J-3 Cub, a
couple weeks ago to get some tail wheel and stick time and absolutely
loved low and slow. Kind of like flyin a farmall tractor.
I'm lookin for anyone up in my neck of the woods with a Kolb to hob knob
with and eventually fly with.
Thanks for the great forum.
Gary
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Thanks for the Cuyuna responses...I'm still a bit wary after it quit at
the worst spot it could pick...but you never want to get too comfy
behind any engine your flying...
Ed in Western NY
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Thanks for the quick comeback!
It's a 447, with 280 hours of trouble free operation.
Want to get my feet wet with the next 20 hours and then send her in for
a rebuild this fall and hopefully have her on skis this winter.
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Greetings From Southern Vermont. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "N111KX (Kip)" <n111kx@mindspring.com>
Looks great, Gary. Enjoy that scenery up there before it gets too cold :)
Kip
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Kip
Firestar II (born September 2000)
Atlanta, GA
N111KX
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:24 PM
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
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> I see your pitot there too. I did make a ground plane for it but didn't
> have the forsight to make a hole in the fabric.
David,
Seems like you're very reluctant to make a hole in the fabric. It is
pretty easy to do...use a soldering iron. Now I'm not telling you where to
mount the antenna, but I wouldn't worry too much about making a hole in the
fabric and letting that stop me from putting it in the best place.
AzDave
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> http://wiki.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas@hotmail.com>
G'day all !
There was also an article about VG's in 'Aviation Consumer' Feb 2006 which was
generaly positive over their use. The article refered to their use mainly on Cessna
172 through to the Beech Duke type of aircraft. One 'letter to the editor'
in the April 2006 issue brought up an interesting point re wing loading in
turbulence.
The VG's enable the wing to fly at a higher angle of attack and thus lower the
stall speed, Vs, but in turbulence you want the wing to stall before the design
limit load of the structure is reached. Va (maneuvering speed) gives you protection
here.
With VG's the aircrafts Va is lowered proportionally to the decrease in Vs therefore
the writer recomended to calculate and record the lowered Va for a VG equipt
aircraft.
Sounds logical for the aircraft types mentioned. Guess it applies to Kolbs too.
David.
(The older I get, the smarter I was !)
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
The article refered to their use mainly on Cessna 172 through to the
Beech Duke type of aircraft. |
| David.
| (The older I get, the smarter I was !)
Don't think there is much relationship between the aircraft tested and
a Kolb.
We fly very slow, normally.
If by chance we encounter severe turbulence, there is not problem
slowing down to prevent overstressing the Kolb. First of all, your
body will not be able to tolerate nearly the abuse from turbulence
that your Kolb will. Based on some experience, when I have to hang on
to the bottom of the seat to keep from getting beat up, it is an
unconditioned response to reduce power and airspeed.
Soon as I can figure out how VG's can improve performance of my mkIII,
I run right out and buy a set.
john h
mkIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
it must of been all that time spent covering, brushing, sanding, painting
silver, wet sanding, painting more silver, wet sanding, painting white,
sanding, masking off, painting red, scuffing, masking off, painting blue and
uncovering. If I didn't touch fabric again for the next three lifetimes that
would be ok with me.
I did put many drain holes along the wings and tail with a soldering iron. I
could do that again.
Thanks for the tip.
>From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: q
>Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 08:34:00 -0700
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>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
><pelletier@cableone.net>
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>----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:24 PM
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>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
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>>I see your pitot there too. I did make a ground plane for it but didn't
>>have the forsight to make a hole in the fabric.
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>David,
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> Seems like you're very reluctant to make a hole in the fabric. It is
>pretty easy to do...use a soldering iron. Now I'm not telling you where to
>mount the antenna, but I wouldn't worry too much about making a hole in the
>fabric and letting that stop me from putting it in the best place.
>
>AzDave
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>>http://wiki.matronics.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
For small holes the soldering iron works well.
-if you want a larger hole, glue (GOOP is a good sub for polytack)
a washer of plastic or thin metal on the inside first, then cut the
hole.
Some fabric and sewing stores carry plastic washers.
You can seal the joined edge with a smear of GOOP or clear nail
polish.
-BB
On 5, Jul 2006, at 11:34 AM, Dave & Eve Pelletier wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
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> ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:24 PM
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>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
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>> I see your pitot there too. I did make a ground plane for it but
>> didn't have the forsight to make a hole in the fabric.
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> David,
>
> Seems like you're very reluctant to make a hole in the fabric. It
> is pretty easy to do...use a soldering iron. Now I'm not telling you
> where to mount the antenna, but I wouldn't worry too much about making
> a hole in the fabric and letting that stop me from putting it in the
> best place.
>
> AzDave
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>> http://wiki.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Two Seater time wanted |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "The BaronVonEvil" <grageda@innw.net>
Hi Alfi,
I have a Firestar II and found it to be very docile and straight forward flying
planes. The Firestar has light controls but not sensitive.
I suspect that when you can solo in a cub then you will be pleasantly surprized
in a Kolb. Just make sure the weight and balance checks out and do a thorough
pre-flight.
I also have a Maxair Drifter (single) that I fly and it is similar to a Kolb but
alittle slower to respond due to all the flying wires. If you cannot find a
kolb two seater around, you might seek out a two place Drifter to obtain some
dual on. It is a tandom arangement like a cub.
I have flown the Challenger Two place, and it is no where near to what a Kolb is
like to fly. They tend to be sluggish by comparision and the rudder feels somewhat
vague at times.
Those are my opinions and if you need some help just, holler ....
Carlos Grageda
AKA
The BaronVonEvil
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| Subject: | Check out eBay Motors: Kolb Ultrastar & trailer (item 130002615226 |
end time J
_Click here: eBay Motors: Kolb Ultrastar & trailer (item 130002615226 end
time Jul-09-06 20:00:00 PDT)_
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Larry Rice <rice@iapdatacom.net>
Piper Colt, 1968, Georgetown, KY, I was 15, didn't solo until 1983 in a
Piper Tomahawk in Meadville, PA.
Larry the micro mong guy
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| Subject: | Re: Check out eBay Motors: Kolb Ultrastar & trailer (item 130002615226 |
end time J
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
From: <WillUribe@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Check out eBay Motors: Kolb Ultrastar & trailer
(item 130002615226 end time J
Will:
Nice looking US.
Hasn't been flown much by any of the three owners. Seller says there
is 75 hours on it. I kinda doubt that. Notice the spark plug wire
caps. Not secured. They won't stay on a Cuyuna, inverted, for 75
hours without falling off. I tested that theory back in 1985.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: One Man Rigging Tip |
I built a kickstand to hold my wings up in place using the fold hold bracket
mounted on the bottom of the wing it works great for me if any one wants to
see pictures I will get some the next time I go flying
Ellery in Maine
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| Subject: | Re: Greetings From Southern Vermont. |
Gary nice firestar you have there, Your going to love it when you start
flying it I am in Maine I will be at the fly-in in New Hampshier and at every
fly-in in Maine this summer we just had our first one of the year two weekends
ago
congrats on adding your self to the Kolb Family and owning one of the best
little airplanes around
Ellery in Maine
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| Subject: | runway construction complete |
Hello Group,
Just wanted to report that we have just completed the runway here on the
farm, got it seeded a couple of weeks ago. It is 2000' feet East and West
with a good approach landing from East to West. Power line 200' west of west
end of runway. There is a small hill about in the middle of the field which
slopes from west to East. I will get a GPS reading on the field and report that
to this group. I have agreed to purchase a Kolb firestar and hope to be
flying it off the field in near future. We are located about 4 miles West and
1
mile South of Eaton Rapids, Michigan. We are about 20 miles southwest of
Lansing, Michigan. All will be welcome. Have been studying the archives and
will
have some questions to ask I am sure... Jim Swan
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| Subject: | Re: Something New!!!!!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Hello Rick,
I was out of the country for a month touring Poland (Hey Big Lar, I've got over
1200 pictures for you next time you pay me a visit!) so I am late posting. I
have thought long and hard on how to best build a Kolb trailer pulled by a light
6 cylinder vehicle with 150 lbs max tongue wt. I have photographed & studied
many smart people's designs and I believe I have combined the best ideas into
an almost ideal trailer. The heart of the design is the basic concept of
Dennis Souder's open air trailer I was thrilled to look at. He used a boat trailer
with a rail down the center to guide & hold tailwheel & tail feathers up
front. The brillance of the design was he had a dropped floor for the plane's
wheels immediately behind the trailer's axle & only a few inches off the ground.
It did not hit/drag on the ground because it was so close to the axle. That
low height, meant you only had to lift the plane a few inches off the ground
(translates easy to load!) When you use that concept in an enclosed trailer,
it also eliminates the problem of scraping the leading eadge of wings on trailer
floor. This concept forces the tongue weight up unexceptable high when using
an enclosure as the axle is so far aft. I solved this issue by using 2 axles
far apart (can't use leaf springs here) this also cushioned ride because
when one wheel went into a hole, the other one still holds the trailer side up.
The 2 axles apart was not enough to keep the tongue wt below 150 lbs. The secret
was incorporating a truss just in front of the front axle, then using this
truss to winch up the tail boom at the H-section behind the engine. This took
all the weight that the trailer saw on the tail wheel & put it back on the front
axle. My trialer now has the same tongue weight with my plane loaded or unloaded.
There are many other things that help to make thing better/easier/more
comfortable that I could share with you if you care to give me call, 352-307-9009
(just south of Ocala FL), but the dropped floor for plane's wheels; the
2 spread a!
xles; &
the truss to hold off the tail's weight off from the front, are the keys to the
puzzle. I went overboard in details on mine & could have made it lighter than
it's 2000 lbs by quit a bit, but it pulls perfectly straight with no wagging
& this last Sun & Fun, I actually used my 4 cyl Ford Escort to pull it at 60mph!
It is very streamlined aerodynamically, front & back, plus low to ground. I'll
try to attach a picture.
richard swiderski
slingshot 003 waiting for my TIG welder to come in ( I cut out her backbone so
I could drop my 175 lb, 110hp, turbocharged, intecooled, distributorless, port
injected, dual computered, 2.32 : 1 SPG-2 gear redive, 3 cyl Suzuki engine)
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| Subject: | First airplane list |
Gentlefolk:
If you haven't visited the First Airplane site recently
(http://www.kfackler.com/kolb/first_plane.html), you might want to give
it a look. There's a bit of a "surprise" at the bottom of the table of
entries.
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
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At 05:32 PM 7/4/2006, you wrote:
>Just got this percuter back to operational... 2 weeks or so... did
>I miss anything exciting...? :-)
>
>First solo was 65 HP Aeronca 7AC, N83768, at Bowman Field in
>Louisville in 1956... was 16. Worked as a line boy for flying time
>at the local Beech FBO, Central American Airways... they are still there..
>Beauford
Good Grief !!
He's only 10 year's older than me!
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> I have a depth perception problem (only one eye)
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>AzDave
And they let you fly a plane??
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Chandelle Standard 18' hang glider in 1977 was my first aviating and
first aircraft I owned. Stalled it and ended up 40' up in a pine tree
once. Didn't get hurt. Neither did the hang glider, but tricky to
retrieve.
First powered airplane was a Cascade Ultralights Kasperwing 180B.
Odd control system in that roll was a steering wheel working wingtip
rudders while pitch was weight shift. But it was OK and one of the best
planes ever for the super slow end of the speed range. I think I could
fly straight and level at 22-24 mph all day.
M. Domenic Perez
Vaughn, NM
FS II
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
At 01:06 PM 7/5/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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>Soon as I can figure out how VG's can improve performance of my mkIII,
>I run right out and buy a set.
>
>john h
I don't have the luxury of flaps, but I think even "you" would be
impressed - you might even be able to "hover" - like the ole days
in the chopper.
$100.00 and a little of the right kind of double sided tape,
who knows??
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