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Thu 07/06/06


Total Messages Posted: 22



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:15 AM - Re: First solo (Ed Chmielewski)
     2. 04:52 AM - Re: First airplane ()
     3. 04:52 AM - Re: First solo ()
     4. 05:15 AM - Rotax 912 fuel filter and gasolator (David Key)
     5. 05:42 AM - First solo (flykolb)
     6. 06:13 AM - Re: Re: Vortex Generators (John Hauck)
     7. 06:33 AM - Re: Rotax 912 fuel filter and gasolator (John Hauck)
     8. 07:00 AM - Re: Re: Vortex Generators (robert bean)
     9. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: Vortex Generators (John Hauck)
    10. 07:22 AM - Firsts (ray anderson)
    11. 08:28 AM - Re: Firsts (John Hauck)
    12. 09:30 AM - First (ray anderson)
    13. 10:57 AM - Re: q (JetPilot)
    14. 11:14 AM - Re: First (John Hauck)
    15. 11:52 AM - Re: derigging. (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
    16. 12:32 PM - Re: First airplane (Beauford)
    17. 01:02 PM - Re: derigging. (possums)
    18. 02:31 PM - Re: First airplane (Bob Noyer)
    19. 03:37 PM - Re: derigging. (russ kinne)
    20. 04:13 PM - Re: derigging. (Bob Noyer)
    21. 06:39 PM - Leaning out the Victor 1+ (Jack B. Hart)
    22. 07:00 PM - Re: Leaning out the Victor 1+ (Richard Pike)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:15:33 AM PST US
    From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: First solo
    June of 1975, at K16 AB in Korea. Regular Army Spec 4 in an AF Flying Club C150 with a Korean Ministry of Transport instructor, and ROK AF F-100's in the pattern to boot.


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    Time: 04:52:40 AM PST US
    From: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    Your info is now included on the website, Domenic. Thanks! -Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: Domenic Perez To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:30 AM Subject: Kolb-List: First airplane Chandelle Standard 18' hang glider in 1977


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    Time: 04:52:40 AM PST US
    From: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Re: First solo
    Got it, Ed! You're info is now on the website. Thanks, -Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Chmielewski To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 3:13 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First solo June of 1975, at K16 AB in Korea. Regular Army Spec 4 in an AF Flying Club C150 with a Korean Ministry of Transport instructor, and ROK AF F-100's in the pattern to boot.


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    Time: 05:15:43 AM PST US
    From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
    Subject: Rotax 912 fuel filter and gasolator
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com> 912 installation manual calls for a fuel fliter with a mesh size .1 mm between the tank and the fuel pump. Where did you find the fuel fliter with the .1 mm mesh size? I'd like to know your thoughts on gasolators and the brands you use. I can not put one in the lowest point of the fuel system, it seems to me that one anywhere would trap water as long as it runs through it. Is there something I don't understand. Thanks, David


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    Time: 05:42:41 AM PST US
    From: "flykolb" <flykolb@wowway.com>
    Subject: First solo
    Ken, Mine was in Sept. 1993 in a C-152. Great site Ken! Jim Minewiser Mark III


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    Time: 06:13:02 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Vortex Generators
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> | $100.00 and a little of the right kind of double sided tape, | who knows?? Possum: Loan me a hundred, "pay day stakes". Thanks, hauck mkIII


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    Time: 06:33:02 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912 fuel filter and gasolator
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> | not put one in the lowest point of the fuel system, it seems to me that one | anywhere would trap water as long as it runs through it. Is there something | I don't understand. | | Thanks, | David David K/Gang: Water is heavier than gasoline. If you pull fuel off the top of the tank, water remains in the tank. Pull it out of the bottom of the tank and it will then go through the gascolator, which can be drained periodically. I have a homemade gascolator. Fuel tank outlet is in the lowest part of my fuel tank. Everything comes out of that hole. Even the last drop of fuel. From the outlet I loop the fuel line under the tailboom and back to the Facet Fuel Pump. At the lowest point of the loop, I installed a "T". From the "T", I run a line forward to the lowest point in my fuselage, which is between the gear legs. I have a Briggs and Stratton nylon valve at the end of the line just prior to a 90 deg fitting and short piece of fuel line to exit the bottom of the fuselage. It is right next to the vent line from the top of the tank that vents out the bottom of the fuselage. Water and contaminants collect in the fuel line that lays in the keel of the airplane. I have been using a Purolator Fuel Filter, same one, since 1984 on my Ultrastar. Uses nylon mesh filters. This is the filter: http://www.midwayautosupply.com/searchby.asp?txtSearch=Purolator&select1=mfg I did replace the glass cylinder with a piece of aluminum tubing of the same size. First night it was on the Ultrastar the glass cylinder cracked and I lost six gals of gas. I may have overtightened it, or it may have been a defective glass part. However, was not going to take another chance of it cracking. I believe John W flies with the same filter, glass cylinder and all. john h mkIII


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    Time: 07:00:53 AM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Vortex Generators
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> When John's 912 heads west and he puts a two cylinder John Deere engine on the Kolb, that's when he will really need some vortex generators. That would sound better than a Harley twin poppin overhead. -BB do not archive On 6, Jul 2006, at 9:11 AM, John Hauck wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > > > Possum: > > Loan me a hundred, "pay day stakes". > > Thanks, > > hauck > mkIII > >


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    Time: 07:14:17 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Vortex Generators
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> | engine on the Kolb, that's when he will really need some vortex | generators. Bob B/Gang: Guess I could go with the 1937 JD B. It has a 149 cu in two cyl. Runs good too. A little heavy though. Probably need VGs top and bottom of everything. BTW: It would sound good. Running a straight SS stack on it now. Have to wear ear plugs when I work it hard. john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:22:37 AM PST US
    From: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Firsts
    All, Entering one more first. A picture of my first HOMEBUILT, plus a picture of my first bought airplane. Click on each picture to enlarge the image on link below Ray UltraStar http://rsanoa.home.comcast.net/aircraft/ Do not archive --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1/min.


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    Time: 08:28:52 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Firsts
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> plus a picture of my first bought airplane. Click on each picture to enlarge the image on link below | | Ray | UltraStar Ray/Gang: Did your homebuilt fly? Thanks for sharing those photos. I enjoy sharing your aviation history. john h mkIII PS: Earned my living jumping out of aircraft before I started earning my living flying them. DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 09:30:14 AM PST US
    From: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
    Subject: First
    John, <<Did your homebuilt fly?>> In my imagination I flew all over the Western Front along side Rickenbacker. We showed those dirty Huns a thing or two. Incidentally, part of my inspiration came from the fact that just two years before, Lindberg and the Spirit of St. Louis flew directly over our house on his good will tour of the states. Can still see it in my old mind. I threw in the pic of the Jr. because I'm impressed with the simillarity to our late model Kolbs. Homer should go down as one of our best U.S. aircraft designers. Where did you do your for pay jumping? We share something there. I'm sending to your e-mail address a note about some of mine. Ray Do not archive Did your homebuilt fly? ---------------------------------


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    Time: 10:57:16 AM PST US
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: q
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com> Hi Russ, We had our disagreements and pissing match on the list months ago, but shortly afterwards you took the time to email me and send me some really good advice about trim tabs on my MK-III. I figure anyone that can get over a disagreement on the list to help a fellow Kolber out has got to be a pretty descent guy. I am not going to get drawn into the current dispute with Max. And even though I am not thrilled about you linking my name with Max, I am not going to take you apart . I appreciate the good advice you sent, it helped me make an important building decision and thats what this list is really all about. Michael A. Bigelow -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45250#45250


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    Time: 11:14:06 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: First
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Ray/Gang: Went through Jump School at Fort Campbell, KY, 48 years ago. Was assigned to Co D, 2d Abn BG, 187th Inf, 101st Abn Div. Jumped for 9 years. Then got my first "leg" assignment when I returned to the States from the 5th SFG in VN. A couple years into the "leg" assignment my dream to fly was fulfilled when I got orders for Rotary Wing Training. First flight in an airplane was an Aeronca Champ. Probably 1945 or 1946. My oldest brother had returned from WWII and the Navy. Used his VA to get a private ticket. I was 6 or 7 years old. That ride sparked my desire to fly that never went away, even to this day. Next flight was after AIT at Ft Carson, CO, 1958, on a DC3 (civilian C-47 Goonie Bird). We got weathered down in Indiana or Illinois, and bused the rest of the way to Ft Campbell, KY. Up until the time I went to Jump School, I had made two takeoffs and landings as a passenger. For the next two years at Ft Campbell, I made a lot of takeoffs and very few landings in an airplane. I liked jumping and jumped every chance I got. Never got into sky diving. Could not afford it back then. All my jumps I got paid for. Used a hand deployed parachute twice since flying ULs. Both times that parachute worked just as good as the old Army T-10 parachutes did. Take care, john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 11:52:19 AM PST US
    From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: derigging.
    I have a depth perception problem (only one eye) AzDave And they let you fly a plane?? Of course, and drive a car too. The airlines don't advertise it, but there are some airline pilots with just one eye. AzDave Do Not Archive


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    Time: 12:32:34 PM PST US
    From: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    Yeah, Brother Possum... and furthermore, when the difference is expressed as a percentage of the totals, you're clearly gaining on me... You're gonna love geezerhood.... let me the second to welcome you... right after your urologist.... Thinking about this list of Brother Fackler's... and reflecting on the biggest difference between a 65 horse Aeronca and the Firefly... The 7AC definitely "flew" on the wing and not on the engine... Every time I fly the Firefly, can't help but get the impression that it is almost the exact opposite -- it climbs like hell whether the ball is in the middle or not. Personally, that wing v.s. power perception about any given airplane is probably the single most defining characteristic stuck in my head when walking away from one... And it makes sense that a machine with stingy power will tend to force a student to learn more, faster... and have a better feel for what is happening under his butt... Ah, the good 'ol days... If Airport Manatee isn't flooded tomorrow, will go insult the rotax until it caves in and permits some limited aviation. Do Not Archive Maudlin Beauford FF #076 ----- Original Message ----- From: possums At 05:32 PM 7/4/2006, you wrote: Good Grief !! He's only 10 year's older than me!


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    Time: 01:02:41 PM PST US
    From: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: derigging.
    At 02:50 PM 7/6/2006, you wrote: >> >> I have a depth perception problem (only one eye) >And they let you fly a plane?? >[] > > >Of course, and drive a car too. The airlines don't advertise it, >but there are some airline pilots with just one eye. > >AzDave > >Do Not Archive Me too.


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    Time: 02:31:00 PM PST US
    From: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: First airplane
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net> My first airplane ride, at age 12 was in a Curtiss Condor, a big (to me) twin engine BIPLANE. I can remember being helped up the steps and into the wicker seats, Think it had 10, maybe 12 seats. Ride cost $3, lasted maybe 20 mins. Not many passengers.1935 was still The Great Depression. Afterwards the Pilot took a few minutes to answer some of my zillion questions, and pointed out the many various gages. I told him I made balsa wood flying model airplanes and wanted to grow up and be a pilot. He said he still wasn't grown up yet! regards, Bob N. http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive


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    Time: 03:37:01 PM PST US
    From: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: derigging.
    ATP's with one eye? No problem. I'v e seen some with two heads! do not archive On Jul 6, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Dave & Eve Pelletier wrote: > > >> >> >> I have a depth perception problem (only one eye) >> >> >> AzDave > > And they let you fly a plane?? > > > Of course, and drive a car too. The airlines don't advertise it, > but there are some airline pilots with just one eye. > > AzDave > > Do Not Archive >


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    Time: 04:13:27 PM PST US
    From: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: derigging.
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net> And Wiley Post, famous pilot, round-the-world flyer, had only one eye. John Hauck, two eyes, flew right up to the very spot where Post and his famed passenger, humorist Will Rogers, fatally crashed at Pt Barrow Alaska, 1935. That makes this Kolb-attuned. regards, Bob N. http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive


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    Time: 06:39:28 PM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Leaning out the Victor 1+
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> FireFlyers & Kolbers, I have finished Bing leaning out studies for the Victor 1+. Basically, I have been able to validate the fuel consumption curve provided by Speedwing, the North American engine distributor for Simonini. When I can keep the EGT up the engine walks the line. I do not believe it is possible to fly my engine and obtain the fuel flow rates that Simonini publishes. I have added an update to the bottom of: http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly121.html The next problem is how to keep the EGT up without having to fool around with the needle, shims and clip, and do it while in the air. I am going to revisit variable pressure reduction over the float bowl. ------------------------------ I hope all had a good July 4th. Big family gathering here at my daughter's house. Typically, I do a flyby but the weather was horrible. But the sun broke through and opened a thirty minute window, and so I got to fly. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN Do not archive


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    Time: 07:00:59 PM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Leaning out the Victor 1+
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Jack, I have most of the important parts for a Dial-A -Jet kit in my garage, and just reading between the lines of what you are doing, if you could run a way to adjust the Dial-A-Jet while in flight, (Old speedometer cable?) you might be able to get your mixture to do what you want. Send me your address and I'll box it up and send it to you, it's yours if you want it. Here are some details of the thing - http://www.thunderproducts.com/dial_a_jet.htm Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Jack B. Hart wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> > > FireFlyers & Kolbers, > > I have finished Bing leaning out studies for the Victor 1+. Basically, I > have been able to validate the fuel consumption curve provided by Speedwing, > the North American engine distributor for Simonini. When I can keep the EGT > up the engine walks the line. I do not believe it is possible to fly my > engine and obtain the fuel flow rates that Simonini publishes. > > I have added an update to the bottom of: > > http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly121.html > > The next problem is how to keep the EGT up without having to fool around > with the needle, shims and clip, and do it while in the air. I am going to > revisit variable pressure reduction over the float bowl. > > ------------------------------ > > I hope all had a good July 4th. Big family gathering here at my daughter's > house. Typically, I do a flyby but the weather was horrible. But the sun > broke through and opened a thirty minute window, and so I got to fly. > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN > > Do not archive > > > > > > > >




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