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Sat 07/08/06


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 04:45 AM - Re: Mazolla-Me and slide me in! (Eugene Zimmerman)
     2. 04:56 AM - Re: Mazolla-Me and slide me in! (planecrazzzy)
     3. 07:59 AM - Re: Mazolla-Me and slide me in! (boyd)
     4. 10:00 AM - Re: Mazolla-Me and slide me in! (Richard Pike)
     5. 11:21 AM - Bill of Sale for Parts (John Cooley)
     6. 03:53 PM - Re: Bill of Sale for Parts (planecrazzzy)
     7. 03:57 PM - Re: [Dixielandjazz] Alternate "Story" About Glenn Miller's Demise? (pat ladd)
     8. 05:08 PM - First Flight Shaking Ralph of Ohio! (Ralph Hoover)
     9. 05:16 PM - Re: Mazolla-Me and slide me in! (Ralph Hoover)
    10. 05:19 PM - Re: Mazolla-Me and slide me in! (Ralph Hoover)
    11. 05:28 PM - Re: First Flight Shaking Ralph of Ohio! (Richard Girard)
    12. 06:20 PM - Re: First Flight Shaking Ralph of Ohio! (robert bean)
    13. 07:29 PM - Re: First Flight Shaking Ralph of Ohio! (planecrazzzy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:45:49 AM PST US
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Mazolla-Me and slide me in!
    On Jul 7, 2006, at 9:28 PM, Ralph Hoover wrote: > Help....any assistance here! > > Perplexed, confused and slidding around in my seat here in Ohio, > Ralph! Ralph, I Think you might like something like I did on this one. I don't understand why Kolb didn't do something like this a long time ago.


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    Time: 04:56:10 AM PST US
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Mazolla-Me and slide me in!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Hey Ralph, Besides having a tough time getting in it...once your in, does it fit...? I'm 6' 1 plus and 200# ...I don't have any problem with getting in it, but I only have the short windscreen...But I need to change it to something like yours because I have to duck down to avoid wind and rain.... One time the wind caught my hat and took my headset off....I got it before it went thru the prop.... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45658#45658


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    Time: 07:59:00 AM PST US
    From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: RE: Mazolla-Me and slide me in!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net> So now I find myself havin to give consideration to one of three choices: 1). keep what I have and begin working out. 2). stop eating, loose weight and shorten both legs. or........... 3). Switch over to the split down the middle, braced windscreen, for year around flying. Help....any assistance here! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph OR option 4). Instead of split down the middle,,,, use only one windscreen post.... either on the left or on the right... and make the door / windscreen go from the post, over the top and down the other side. Then a small door or permanent window from the post down. It should make climbing in like there was no windscreen or door. archive Boyd Young


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    Time: 10:00:03 AM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Mazolla-Me and slide me in!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Win'sheeld tube? What tube? We don' need no steenking tube! http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/Latch.html 1/8" thick Lexan, fastened snugly along the left fuselage side, including the top left side of the upper cabin bow near the leading edge, then securely latched on the right side, just bends and wraps around, and it's good to go. But it does need about four 3" snap vents to move cooling air onto your bod. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Ralph Hoover wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com> > > Last week was the first time since I had my full wind screen off that I tried to get into my Firestar Single 1990 KXP. It now has the doors and the full canopy from nose cone up to wings. And guess what! > > At 230 pounds and 6'1" tall with two bad legs and two bad knees, I have to almost but not quite Butter my body to get into that teensy little slit along the side. Whats with that? > > I have viewed several Firestars with the darned tube running along the center from the top bow below the wings all the way down to the instrument panel. When I first looked at them I thought there is a sure way to go "cross-eyed". Reminded me of that movie about the handle traversing the bridge area of the nose (on your face, not on the plane) so's one could remove their glasses easly. Backfired on the inventor and he went from riches to rags cause all of his customers became cross-eyed, and sued him. > > So now I find myself havin to give consideration to one of three choices: > 1). keep what I have and begin working out. > 2). stop eating, loose weight and shorten both legs. > or........... > 3). Switch over to the split down the middle, braced windscreen, for year around flying. > > Help....any assistance here! > > Perplexed, confused and slidding around in my seat here in Ohio, Ralph! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45609#45609 > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:21:16 AM PST US
    From: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
    Subject: Bill of Sale for Parts
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com> Hi Gang, Looks like I may have my Twinstar MK II sold. One of the stipulations in selling it is for it to be sold as "Airplane Parts". Now for my question to the list, does anyone have a pre-drafted copy of a bill of sale for parts they would care to share. I realize something can be written up fairly easy, but was thinking there may be generic form out there that pretty much would cover all the bases. Thanks, John Cooley Lucedale, Ms. --


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    Time: 03:53:31 PM PST US
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Bill of Sale for Parts
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Hi John, I think there was something like what your talking about that was "archived"..... it was a couple of years ago..... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45756#45756


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    Time: 03:57:55 PM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Alternate "Story" About Glenn Miller's
    Demise? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> his plane was the one the bombs fell on.>> Hi I heard the story on local television told by a guy who lived in Bridgewater, which is about 40 miles from home. He said that he was in the crew that dropped the bombs and that it it wasn`t until they had released them that they noticed the other plane beneath them. Good enough for me Pat do not archive --


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    Time: 05:08:01 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@columbus.rr.com>
    Subject: First Flight Shaking Ralph of Ohio!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com> First Flight! July 8th, 2006 Since first lesson August 6th, 2005! Little money, lots of time. 19 hours of actual instruction. Today I experienced the most frightening / exciting / emotional forty -five minutes of my life to date! knowing that going in, how could one describe the feelings of fear, exeleration and excitement balled up, if you will in a period of time that seemed like forever and yet less than a moment to reflect back upon? My intent, deep inside was to avoid the actual take-off of my Firestar, but yet come to the edge of where lift-off might exist. Knowing that my tail dragger and the Challenger had two-different modes of operendi, I knew that I didnt want to mistake what felt like lift or climb to actually become lift or climb. My PIC, whom by the way was not there at the time, stated: If, when your practicing your taxiing, the Kolb lifts off, make a decision, how much field is left and decide if you need to fly or make a close relationship with the soy field ahead. I chose to lift! Immediately after my decision, I thought: stupid, you didnt have to make this move , at this time , in this plane, here today. My heart began pounding, the plane wanted to lift like I have never felt, but was sought to Power forward and lift. At this point, I am at the end of the runway and climbing unlike I had at any time in the Challenger, with PIC aboard. Altimeter reading 1600 feet ASL. How is that, out of the chute, way before I was prior in the Challenger at twice the distance? Obviously, faulty instruments, correct when I am back on the ground. All my training comes into play: Gain altitude, keep airspeed above stall (stall, both mechanical and electrical ASI indicate way below stall, what gives?) Look down at the Garmin, which I installed at this time , not for flight but for shake down, was stating 34 MPH (ground speed). Crap, I need to crank forward and gain some speed and altitude. What am I thinking? I have been flying this pattern so many times, its imbedded in my memory so deep that......Where is the field? Darned it, its only a six mile circular pattern, where is....OH! Whew! There is the field. Thank God. Wow, cant do anything about it now, its way to close, and Im way to high. Oh well, next round. Right wing rears up, CRAP! Right Aileron and a little left rudder, string went to the right, left rudder (stand away from the string). Now level, whops first turn, now down wind, yet really no wind, why is plane acting funny? What do I know about plane acting funny, this is the first time I have flown it? Getting mad and scared, common sense levels in. I have to make some choices; I am where I should be, at the altitude I should be by: WHAT.? AN ADDITIONAL 1,000 FEET, how did that happen, throttle back, leveling off, now at 2200 feet ASL. Need to get down to 1600 feet without loosing much air speed. God, Are you there? Work with me here God, This isnt what I would have chosen as my mode of operendi, but here it is on my plate.....HELP! First attempt to land: way too high, way too fast. Go around! Second attempt to land: still a little high, still too much speed. Third attempt: right height, speed a little fast, but I can dump that in time.....OH CRAP , What was that, left wing up, right aileron down, plane acted a tad bit funny. Where ok now, pul stick back, crank engine up, way to many things happening! Towers below, wind causing me to crab really bad, altitude way too high, so many things mounting up way to quickly! STOP! Think! What is the way you were taught? Calmly, gently on the stick. Forget that you have no idea how fast you are going. Ignore that flashing light on the panel stating EGT way too high! Think, one EGT reading that far off, obviously a wire crossed. ASI lamp blinking, expect that, the stupid ASI isnt reading correctly. You know the feeling. If the bottom begins falling out, push forward on the stick, DO NOT PULL BACK! Back in control, as much control as I could possibly have at this point. God! you are still with me, arent you? Of course, if I drop, well, In heaven with Him, I will be. But that would not be His choice, for me at this time in this place, Thank you Jesus! What is thta little dot on the field? Lets see, 400 feet on final AGL, Airspeed, no idea, but feels (what the H do I know about feel in a Kolb), since I have never felt a Kolb before? Oh well, I believe that this feels and looks like where I had been before in the Challenger at this altitude, at this feeling (read speed) and Dave is standing at the 1/4 field length guiding me in. STUPID! GET OFF THE FIELD! That didnt do anything. Dave is moving his right hand flat in an up and down motion. Ah-ha! Cut throttle, forward stick, line up with the field, WHOO! a gust, right aileron down, right rudder slow, slow pull back, pull back some more, there thump, wheels on the ground. Stick all the way back, whoa, now I have ground control, speed bleeding off, stopped at half field. Job done! Now after hugs and pats on the back. I take the Kolb to the hanger. Shaking along the way. thank you Lord! Thank you Dave. Thank you instructor Andy. I asked these guys: did you ever forget the feeling of your first flight? Apparently NOT! Now I understand the N.V.M.of S. phrase that God gave me! Rip goes the shirt! Going back again tomorrow. Lot more to learn but who, but those that have been what we have been through, could possibly understand? Calmed like the sea....Ralph of Ohio! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45773#45773


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    Time: 05:16:24 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@columbus.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Mazolla-Me and slide me in!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com> Ralph OR option 4). Instead of split down the middle,,,, use only one windscreen post.... either on the left or on the right... and make the door / windscreen go from the post, over the top and down the other side. Then a small door or permanent window from the post down. It should make climbing in like there was no windscreen or door. archive Boyd Young Pictures please. My mind isn't the same as it used to be. I think I know what your refering to but it would be easier to see it. Thanks. Ralph Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45774#45774


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    Time: 05:19:13 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@columbus.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Mazolla-Me and slide me in!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com> Richard, I appreciate you method. But that appears to be a "tear it down and build it up" kind of project. I may consider it sometime this year. Thanks Ohio Ralph Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45776#45776


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    Time: 05:28:57 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: First Flight Shaking Ralph of Ohio!
    Congratulations Ralph! Sounds real similar to my first flight in the MkIII. It definitely gets better and better from here. As my Aussie buddies say, "Good on ya, mate." Rick On 7/8/06, Ralph Hoover <flht99reh@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com > > > > First Flight! July 8th, 2006 Since first lesson August 6th, 2005! Little > money, lots of time. 19 hours of actual instruction. > > > Today I experienced the most frightening / exciting / emotional forty > -five minutes of my life to date! knowing that going in, how could one > describe the feelings of fear, exeleration and excitement balled up, if you > will in a period of time that seemed like forever and yet less than a moment > to reflect back upon? > > My intent, deep inside was to avoid the actual "take-off" of my Firestar, > but yet come to the edge of where lift-off might exist. Knowing that my tail > dragger and the Challenger had two-different modes of operendi, I knew that > I didn't want to mistake what felt like lift or climb to actually become > lift or climb. My PIC, whom by the way was not there at the time, stated: > "If, when your practicing your taxiing, the Kolb lifts off, make a decision, > how much field is left and decide if you need to fly or make a close > relationship with the soy field ahead. I chose to lift! > > Immediately after my decision, I thought: "stupid, you didn't have to make > this move , at this time , in this plane, here today". My heart began > pounding, the plane wanted to lift like I have never felt, but was sought to > "Power forward and lift". At this point, I am at the end of the runway and > climbing unlike I had at any time in the Challenger, with PIC aboard. > Altimeter reading 1600 feet ASL. How is that, out of the chute, way before > I was prior in the Challenger at twice the distance? Obviously, faulty > instruments, correct when I am back on the ground. All my training comes > into play: Gain altitude, keep airspeed above stall (stall, both mechanical > and electrical ASI indicate way below stall, what gives?) Look down at the > Garmin, which I installed at this time , not for flight but for shake down, > was stating 34 MPH (ground speed). Crap, I need to crank forward and gain > some speed and altitude. What am I thinking? I have been flying this > pattern so many tim! > es, its imbedded in my memory so deep that......Where is the field? Darned > it, its only a six mile circular pattern, where is....OH! Whew! There is the > field. Thank God. Wow, can't do anything about it now, its way to close, and > I'm way to high. Oh well, next round. > > Right wing rears up, CRAP! Right Aileron and a little left rudder, string > went to the right, left rudder (stand away from the string). Now level, > whops first turn, now down wind, yet really no wind, why is plane acting > funny? What do I know about plane acting funny, this is the first time I > have flown it? Getting mad and scared, common sense levels in. I have to > make some choices; I am where I should be, at the altitude I should be by: > WHAT.? AN ADDITIONAL 1,000 FEET, how did that happen, throttle back, > leveling off, now at 2200 feet ASL. Need to get down to 1600 feet without > loosing much air speed. God, Are you there? Work with me here God, This > isn't what I would have chosen as my mode of operendi, but here it is on my > plate.....HELP! > > First attempt to land: way too high, way too fast. Go around! Second > attempt to land: still a little high, still too much speed. Third attempt: > right height, speed a little fast, but I can dump that in time.....OH CRAP , > What was that, left wing up, right aileron down, plane acted a tad bit > funny. Where ok now, pul stick back, crank engine up, way to many things > happening! Towers below, wind causing me to crab really bad, altitude way > too high, so many things mounting up way to quickly! STOP! Think! What is > the way you were taught? Calmly, gently on the stick. Forget that you have > no idea how fast you are going. Ignore that flashing light on the panel > stating EGT way too high! Think, one EGT reading that far off, obviously a > wire crossed. ASI lamp blinking, expect that, the stupid ASI isn't reading > correctly. You know the feeling. If the bottom begins falling out, push > forward on the stick, DO NOT PULL BACK! Back in control, as much control as > I could possibly have a! > t this point. God! you are still with me, aren't you? Of course, if I > drop, well, In heaven with Him, I will be. But that would not be His choice, > for me at this time in this place, Thank you Jesus! > > What is thta little dot on the field? Lets see, 400 feet on final AGL, > Airspeed, no idea, but feels (what the "H" do I know about feel in a Kolb), > since I have never felt a Kolb before? Oh well, I believe that this feels > and looks like where I had been before in the Challenger at this altitude, > at this feeling (read speed) and Dave is standing at the 1/4 field length > guiding me in. STUPID! GET OFF THE FIELD! That didn't do anything. Dave is > moving his right hand flat in an up and down motion. Ah-ha! Cut throttle, > forward stick, line up with the field, WHOO! a gust, right aileron down, > right rudder slow, slow pull back, pull back some more, there thump, wheels > on the ground. Stick all the way back, whoa, now I have ground control, > speed bleeding off, stopped at half field. Job done! > > Now after hugs and pats on the back. I take the Kolb to the hanger. > Shaking along the way. thank you Lord! > Thank you Dave. Thank you instructor Andy. I asked these guys: "did you > ever forget the feeling of your first flight"? Apparently NOT! Now I > understand the N.V.M.of S. phrase that God gave me! > > Rip goes the shirt! > > Going back again tomorrow. Lot more to learn but who, but those that have > been what we have been through, could possibly understand? > > Calmed like the sea....Ralph of Ohio! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45773#45773 > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 06:20:39 PM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: First Flight Shaking Ralph of Ohio!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> Ralph, sounds like you had enough excitement for one day. Welcome to the flying flockers of Kolbdom. -BB do not archive On 8, Jul 2006, at 8:04 PM, Ralph Hoover wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" > <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com> > > First Flight! July 8th, 2006 Since first lesson August 6th, 2005! > Little money, lots of time. 19 hours of actual instruction. > >


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    Time: 07:29:04 PM PST US
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: First Flight Shaking Ralph of Ohio!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Way to go Ralph ! Gotta Fly... Mike in MN . . . -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45795#45795




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