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1. 02:00 AM - Re: Ultra Star (pat ladd)
2. 02:01 AM - Re: fuel mix (pat ladd)
3. 04:43 AM - First airplane, website update ()
4. 05:28 AM - Re: First airplane, website update (Jerry Deckard)
5. 05:52 AM - Re: First airplane, website update ()
6. 05:55 AM - Re: First airplane (Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com)
7. 06:17 AM - Re: First airplane, website update (flykolb)
8. 06:57 AM - Re: fuel mix (TheWanderingWench)
9. 06:57 AM - BRS installations (Richard Girard)
10. 06:59 AM - Re: Ultra Star (Earl & Mim Zimmerman)
11. 07:40 AM - Re: fuel mix (Richard Pike)
12. 09:54 AM - Re: Improving Roll Control on the FireFly (Jack B. Hart)
13. 11:10 AM - Re: First airplane, website update ()
14. 11:23 AM - Re: First airplane, website update (David Key)
15. 02:01 PM - 2000+ years of flight!! ()
16. 04:27 PM - FFFFirst FFFFFlight! (JAMES BEARD)
17. 05:24 PM - Re: 2000+ years of flight!! (APilot@webtv.net)
18. 06:30 PM - Re: 2000+ years of flight!! (John Hauck)
19. 07:25 PM - Re: 2000+ years of flight!! (Mike Schnabel)
20. 07:31 PM - Re: 2000+ years of flight!! ()
21. 08:15 PM - Kolb Homecoming 2005 (John Hauck)
22. 08:22 PM - Kolb Homecoming 2006 ()
23. 08:42 PM - Re: Kolb Homecoming 2006 (John Hauck)
24. 08:44 PM - Re: Re: fuel mix (jerb)
25. 08:48 PM - Re: Kolb Homecoming 2006 (John Hauck)
26. 09:30 PM - Re: 2000+ years of flight!! (David Key)
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sell my Ultra Star because of serious health problems>>
Hard luck Ray. Commiserations.
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
oil selection
> is as contentious a topic as religion or politics.
Oil performance is quantifiable when exposed to rigorous testing
and objective investigation. >>
Not at all like religion then!!!!
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | First airplane, website update |
I received several more entries yesterday for the First Airplane
website. Thank you one and all.
We still have a couple of "unknown" entries in the year column but I
hope those fellas will send me the missing info soon. We're currently at
1910 years of cumulative flying experience. If we could just get a
couple more folks like Ray Anderson or Vince Hallam added to the list,
we could crack 2000.
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
http://www.kfackler.com/kolb/first_plane.html
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane, website update |
I may be the only stupid one, but the way you worded the question, I
thought you wanted to know the year of the plane, not the year that
first flight. Your web site indicates the year is the year of first
flight.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: kfackler@ameritech.net
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:40 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: First airplane, website update
I received several more entries yesterday for the First Airplane
website. Thank you one and all.
We still have a couple of "unknown" entries in the year column but I
hope those fellas will send me the missing info soon. We're currently at
1910 years of cumulative flying experience. If we could just get a
couple more folks like Ray Anderson or Vince Hallam added to the list,
we could crack 2000.
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
http://www.kfackler.com/kolb/first_plane.html
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane, website update |
Jerry:
I certainly didn't mean to mislead you, or anyone. In fact, I was (and
am) trying to offer a gift of service to the Kolb List community.
If you have issues with me, my communication, or the website, please
bring them to me directly at kfackler@ameritech.net, rather than on the
list.
To All:
If my intentions were unclear and that resulted in an error, please feel
free to revise your information by sending me an email at the address
above. I will continue to do the updates and host the site so long as
there's (positive) interest.
To be clear, this is the only information I need:
Name
Airplane first flown as PIC
The year you did it
-Ken
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Deckard
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane, website update
I may be the only stupid one, but the way you worded the question, I
thought you wanted to know the year of the plane, not the year that
first flight. Your web site indicates the year is the year of first
flight.
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane |
My first plane was my Firestar. 10/01/2000
The Flying Farmer
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane, website update |
Ken
I don't think Jerry meant anything negative about you or your service
but was simply explaining his own misunderstanding.
It appears that he and most everyone on the list appreciate your
contribution. I'm sure it is a lot of work and takes a fair amount of
your time.
Thanks
Jim Minewiser
----- Original Message -----
From: kfackler@ameritech.net
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane, website update
Jerry:
I certainly didn't mean to mislead you, or anyone. In fact, I was (and
am) trying to offer a gift of service to the Kolb List community.
If you have issues with me, my communication, or the website, please
bring them to me directly at kfackler@ameritech.net, rather than on the
list.
To All:
If my intentions were unclear and that resulted in an error, please
feel free to revise your information by sending me an email at the
address above. I will continue to do the updates and host the site so
long as there's (positive) interest.
To be clear, this is the only information I need:
Name
Airplane first flown as PIC
The year you did it
-Ken
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Deckard
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane, website update
I may be the only stupid one, but the way you worded the question, I
thought you wanted to know the year of the plane, not the year that
first flight. Your web site indicates the year is the year of first
flight.
Jerry
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
--- Jim Baker <jlbaker@msbit.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker"
> <jlbaker@msbit.net>
>
> I tried to resist.......Auuuggghhhh!!!! Couldn't do
> it.....
>
Jim -
I'm GLAD you couldn't resist - your information was
very informative. This is one of the reasons why I'm
on the Kolb list, even though I fly a Drifter! (The
other is that I met so many neat people at the MV Kolb
fly-in, and every time I see their posts on this list,
it's like being with them again.)
So thanks for the research.
Arty
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com
"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller
"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
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| Subject: | BRS installations |
I just arrived home from another long drive to get an airplane. It is the
second one I've bought in about 6 weeks. Yes, I am fortunate to have an
understanding girl friend and to be in the position to be able to keep a
couple of planes around for when friends drop in. But this isn't about me,
it's about the planes.
Except for a cruciform layout, they are as different as can be. The Minimax
1100 is a low wing, wood and fabric job. The Firestar, well you guys know
what a Firestar is. So what's the common denominator here?
The BRS.
Both aircraft have a BRS.
And both of them are installed COMPLETELY WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Each of the owners said roughly the same thing when showing me the BRS
installation. I put it in here to get it out of the wind. When that rocket
motor goes off, it's gonna punch right outta the side of the plane. Both
planes are covered in light dacron and the BRS is mounted behind the pilot,
inside fuselage with no sort of relief or hatch that would easily open
should the BRS ever be launched. To be fair, the owner of the Minimax showed
me the reliefs he had cut half way through the wooden longerons of the
turtle deck.
On the Minimax, the BRS is mounted on the aft side of the seat back. On the
Firestar, the BRS is mounted under the fuel tank.
According to the manual of the BRS 4, on page 18, General guidelines, 2,
"NOTE: While the rocket is able to penetrate some thin materials, if it is
close to material obstructions, it may not be able to initially gain forward
movement sufficient to penetrate. The rocket WILL NOT (they used italics)
penetrate normal dacron wing covering-as used on ultralights-unless an
escape hatch (blowaway patch) is installed. Interference with the rocket's
flight path should be avoided completely."
As I have said, neither the Minmax, nor the Firestar have a "blowaway
patch". Should the BRS have ever been deployed on either of these aircraft
the result would have been the same, a failed deployment. In both I would
bet you a quarter the pilot would been badly burned at best. In the
Firestar, I'd bet a dollar the BRS rocket motor would have ignited the fuel
tank and caused the airplane to explode (wouldn't you like to see the NTSB
report on that!).
Some of you out there in Photonville are probably like me and bought, rather
than built your aircraft. If it came with a BRS, take an hour or three and
dig out the BRS manual. Read and understand how the BRS works and how it
should be installed, then go out and inspect the installation on your
aircraft. If you have any doubts about the BRS installation, find out where
you can get a factory authorized inspection and let them evaluate your
concerns.
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
ray anderson wrote:
> ALL,
>
> Regretfully it appears that I may have to sell my Ultra Star because of
> serious health problems that have arisen. At my age its not unexpected.
Ray, Sorry to hear about the health. Nice looking Ultrastar! I forget
where you are located. ~ Earl
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Some of us would disagree. But that would require a different list.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Pastor, Blountville Community Chapel
pat ladd wrote:
> <snip>
> Oil performance is quantifiable when exposed to rigorous testing and
> objective investigation. >>
>
> Not at all like religion then!!!!
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Improving Roll Control on the FireFly |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
FireFlyers,
After making new yoke arms to get rid of bearing clearances in the
flaperon/aileron yoke assembly, I thought I had achieved my goal of getting
rid of all play in the system, and I had. But, I discovered that although
one could not detect any play in flight, some sponginess about the stick
roll neutral axis remained. What I found was that as I moved the stick from
side to side the bottom of the yoke assembly swung side to side about a
quarter of an inch. I stabilized the yoke arms by installing a triangular
truss between the arms.
One flight test has shown it to be a distinct improvement. If you would
like to see more about it, it can be seen as an update on the bottom
of:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly122.html
For the last week or so, not much flying here. Little thunder bumpers are
flowing across a stationary front. Low clouds, and haze mean I can only go
for very short flights close to the airport.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane, website update |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <mustangsally@semo.net>
I didn't mean anything bad. I just misunderstood your request. Thank you for
your effort.
Jerry
> Jerry:
>
> I certainly didn't mean to mislead you, or anyone. In fact, I was (and
> am) trying to offer a gift of service to the Kolb List community.
>
> If you have issues with me, my communication, or the website, please
> bring them to me directly at kfackler@ameritech.net, rather than on the
> list.
>
> To All:
>
> If my intentions were unclear and that resulted in an error, please feel
> free to revise your information by sending me an email at the address
> above. I will continue to do the updates and host the site so long as
> there's (positive) interest.
>
> To be clear, this is the only information I need:
> Name
> Airplane first flown as PIC
> The year you did it
>
> -Ken
>
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerry Deckard
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane, website update
>
>
> I may be the only stupid one, but the way you worded the question, I
> thought you wanted to know the year of the plane, not the year that
> first flight. Your web site indicates the year is the year of first
> flight.
> Jerry
>
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| Subject: | Re: First airplane, website update |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
Ken,
David Key
the date was 1980 for my Starflight
>From: <mustangsally@semo.net>
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane, website update
>Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 18:05:58 GMT
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: <mustangsally@semo.net>
>
>I didn't mean anything bad. I just misunderstood your request. Thank you
>for
>your effort.
>Jerry
> > Jerry:
> >
> > I certainly didn't mean to mislead you, or anyone. In fact, I was (and
> > am) trying to offer a gift of service to the Kolb List community.
> >
> > If you have issues with me, my communication, or the website, please
> > bring them to me directly at kfackler@ameritech.net, rather than on the
> > list.
> >
> > To All:
> >
> > If my intentions were unclear and that resulted in an error, please feel
> > free to revise your information by sending me an email at the address
> > above. I will continue to do the updates and host the site so long as
> > there's (positive) interest.
> >
> > To be clear, this is the only information I need:
> > Name
> > Airplane first flown as PIC
> > The year you did it
> >
> > -Ken
> >
> > do not archive
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jerry Deckard
> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane, website update
> >
> >
> > I may be the only stupid one, but the way you worded the question, I
> > thought you wanted to know the year of the plane, not the year that
> > first flight. Your web site indicates the year is the year of first
> > flight.
> > Jerry
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | 2000+ years of flight!! |
At approximately 1400 EDT on this date, the Kolb List First Airplane
website officially passed 2000 years of cumulative flying experience!!
As mentioned in other venues, this is by no means a scientific
measurement, but it's very, very impressive nonetheless. (Well, it is to
me, at least.)
I will continue to accept additions, of course, so please don't feel
it's "too late" to get listed.
THANK YOU to each and every person who contributed!
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
P.S. For any of you within or near the SE Michigan area, several members
of my flying club and I are planning to leave our home field (Ray
Community, 57D) at 0800 tomorrow morning. We're flying to Owosso (RNP)
for breakfast and then on to Chesaning (50G) to participate in the MULA
fly-in. We are going around the Flint Class C on the north side and will
be monitoring 129.0 whilst en route. Please feel free to join us.
P.P.S. I wonder if TNK would be interested in our little website?
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| Subject: | FFFFirst FFFFFlight! |
Ken... the name is Jim Beard. My first solo was on March 25, 1971. The
aircraft was Cessna 150 # 5108G, and it was my first supervised solo at
Meadowlark Field in Huntington Beach, Ca. Fortunately, my CFI had
gotten bored and headed inside for a cup of coffee just as I fell off an
onshore gust at twenty feet agl, bounced hard on left main when the same
wing stalled, was propelled again skyward and, rather than return to
terra firma in a really rediculous attitude, quickly decided to go
around.... that decision made in microseconds, I forced the throttle
forward, levelled the wings and immediately dumped my fifteen degrees of
flaps..........the resulting WAAAAAAA as I hung from the prop and
watched the precious real estate move slowly to the rear beneath me
underscored my horror at the thing I had just done. Bassees Flight
School was located at the end of the 2000 foot strip now just ahead of
my flailing trajectory........I had to push the nose over to clear the
sign on top of the quonset hut.... "LEARN TO FLY" it screamed. I
screamed. Just when I thought for sure all was lost, the tail slowly
rose, and I still swear I heard a barely audible "thump" from just
behind me. I came around again, holding a little more airspeed, landed
acceptably, parked the plane, and heard my instructor proclaim "Why are
you so nervous? You did just fine!"... I whistled casually as I looked
for possible damage near the tail...."No oil leaks" I offered.... The
CFI clapped me on the shoulder with a big grin, and we headed inside to
tack my shirt to the rafters. One great way to learn the lesson of slow
flight... easy with that flap handle!!!
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| Subject: | Re: 2000+ years of flight!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
I have seen little interest from TNK as to what we do with our Kolbs.
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| Subject: | Re: 2000+ years of flight!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| --> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
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| I have seen little interest from TNK as to what we do with our
Kolbs.
Vic:
Must not have spent much time looking.
TNK has an Annual Kolb Homecoming at Labhart Field, London, KY, last
weekend of every September. Bruce Chesnut, Donnie Sizemore, Travis
Brown, and the rest of the Kolb crew and their wives and families, put
on one Hell'uva weekend. One of the only flyin's that provides food,
at no cost, for the entire weekend. Always have a great band too. We
fly, talk, make new friends, and renew old ones.
TNK will be at Sun and Fun and Oshkosh every year. They are there to
help you.
Without the help of TNK I would have never been able to accomplish
many of my flights. Doubt I would be flying at all without the help
of TNK and a lot of other good friends.
Have you checked out their web site?
When is the last time you talked to Bruce Chesnut, Donnie S or Travis
B about their display of little interest as to what we do with our
Kolbs?
When is the last time you bought an aircraft from TNK?
When is the last time you bought anything from TNK?
TNK is a small, very small business. Their purpose in life is to keep
Kolbs flying.
If you bought a second hand Kolb, there is a chance it may be one of
the models that TNK does not support. Amazes me that they are able to
provide parts and expertise on the models they do support.
Talk to some of the other folks that fly Kolbs and interact with TNK.
Maybe they can change your mind about TNK's interest or lack of for
Kolb Aircraft.
Take care,
john h
mkIII (Kolb owner since March 1984, continuous, that is.)
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| Subject: | Re: 2000+ years of flight!! |
John / Gang,
John, seems lately you dont pipe up as often as you used too (traveling more
lately?), but brother when you do, it hits home very well!
Let me support Johns comments...
I am one of those that have bought a used Kolb product. And, being naive, or
anal call it what you like, I wanted to know more about the aircraft I purchased.
So guess what I did, yep, contacted the manufacture.
Let me say, that to date I have not added a single penny to The New Kolb Company's
pocketbook, but EVERY single question I have asked to them, I have received
a very prompt and professional and whats most impressive PERSONAL reply. They
really do care about their product and the people who fly them (in my case,
taxi them but thats another story...). I was even told I could bring the plane
up to the factory, they would be GLAD to go over it for me, to ensure It was
safe, well built, and even would test fly if for me. Remember, I have not spent
a penny and they would do this for me, to be sure I was a happy, safe, Kolb
owner. Well gee, maybe they dont care maybe Vic is right NOT!!!!!
I dont want this to be a flame against Vic, I am sure he has his reasons for
making the comments that he did. But it is necessary for those that have found
a different viewpoint to what Vic has stated, to express our perspective. Kolb
does care. Vic, if you have had a bad experience, you have to elaborate not
just flame. Tell your story (like John and I have).
Now in all fairness, John is a long time Kolb flyer. They have supported many
of his AMAZING adventures over the years. And with good reason. He is an accomplished
pilot that takes our sport seriously, but also keeps it on the side of
having fun, and not so much like work. And TNK as well as the Old Kolb gang
has supported him well. And for no real glory or monetary gain mind you, just
for their pure belief and support of his endeavors and of our sport of flying
for fun.
Then there are the doo-doos like me. Who stumble along in life dreaming of flying.
And cant afforded to build or buy a new plane so resort to buying a used
one. Well, I can attest with no uncertain doubt, that I feel TNK has just as
much commitment and desire to support me as they do the frequent flyers as John,
and I have no doubt every pilot/owner in-between.
So, not to be overly redundant, but unless you (Vic or any Kolb nay sayer), can
share with us your story of TNK or even the Old Kolb showing no signs of caring...
well, I for one would appreciate youre cooling your jets on flaming them.
They were a 10 star company so many years ago when I first oggled a Firestar
at Oshkosh back in '94, and they are now an even more personally responsible
and caring group of folks, something that has become a rarity in not only this
industry but even more so in this day and age overall, where the making of
a quick buck and who gives a hoot (!) about the customer rules. In my opinion,
the Kolb gang... THEY CARE!
OK... time to get off the soap box, and let the next speaker onboard... thanks
for putting up with my rant.... but I had to say something!
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
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John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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| I have seen little interest from TNK as to what we do with our
Kolbs.
Vic:
Must not have spent much time looking.
TNK has an Annual Kolb Homecoming at Labhart Field, London, KY, last
weekend of every September. Bruce Chesnut, Donnie Sizemore, Travis
Brown, and the rest of the Kolb crew and their wives and families, put
on one Hell'uva weekend. One of the only flyin's that provides food,
at no cost, for the entire weekend. Always have a great band too. We
fly, talk, make new friends, and renew old ones.
TNK will be at Sun and Fun and Oshkosh every year. They are there to
help you.
Without the help of TNK I would have never been able to accomplish
many of my flights. Doubt I would be flying at all without the help
of TNK and a lot of other good friends.
Have you checked out their web site?
When is the last time you talked to Bruce Chesnut, Donnie S or Travis
B about their display of little interest as to what we do with our
Kolbs?
When is the last time you bought an aircraft from TNK?
When is the last time you bought anything from TNK?
TNK is a small, very small business. Their purpose in life is to keep
Kolbs flying.
If you bought a second hand Kolb, there is a chance it may be one of
the models that TNK does not support. Amazes me that they are able to
provide parts and expertise on the models they do support.
Talk to some of the other folks that fly Kolbs and interact with TNK.
Maybe they can change your mind about TNK's interest or lack of for
Kolb Aircraft.
Take care,
john h
mkIII (Kolb owner since March 1984, continuous, that is.)
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| Subject: | Re: 2000+ years of flight!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
----- Original Message -----
> If you bought a second hand Kolb, there is a chance it may be one of
> the models that TNK does not support. Amazes me that they are able to
> provide parts and expertise on the models they do support.
I fit the category John is describing, to wit, I purchased a second-hand
Kolb and it is indeed one they no longer support, the Mark II. However, hold
on, wait just a second, and stop the presses!
While it might be difficult to get a new cage or a few other things like
that, TNK has bent over backwards to help me each time I've reached out to
them. They've sold me parts when they could, which fortunately so far has
been every time I needed one. I've been welcomed by them as a "true" member
of the Kolb Family and was never made to feel like a second-class citizen
because I didn't purchase a plane from them, or because I'm just a poor,
dumb pilot and not a builder.
While TNK may -not- be interested in the First Airplane website, they
certainly -are- interested in us and our aircraft.
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II (unsupported, but satisfied) / A722KWF
Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Kolb Homecoming 2005 |
Hi Folks:
Wanted to share a photo I took of a couple four Kolbs on their way to
the Kolb Homecoming 2005, via The Great Smoky Mountain National Park,
and other places. Was a beautiful flight, and a lot of fun flying
with good friends, Steven Green, James Tripp, John Williamson, and me.
Looking forward to this years get together.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Kolb Homecoming 2006 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Is there a firm date set for the 2006 event?
-Ken
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Homecoming 2006 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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| -Ken
Ken/Al:
Just a WAG, but the last weekend in September 2006 is 22, 23, and 24;
Fri, Sat, and Sun.
Thought I had seen this on the TNK web page, but took a look just now
and could not find it.
john h
mkIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
We were running CPS's AV2 in two planes with 447's. It worked fine
but cost $$$, CPS couldn't seem to ship it with a reasonable lead
time. It didn't produce a lot of carbon but the deposits were hard
and hard to clean off. Switched over to Pennzoil, been running that
for some time. Carbons a little more but easier to clean off. Just
pulled the exhaust off, the pistons and rings looked good, little
build up on the edges of the manifold. So far I am happy with
Pennzoil (aircooled) plus I can buy it locally by the case at a
reasonable price.
jerb
At 04:21 AM 7/13/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
>
>Jim,
>
>Probly not a good idea with Rotax two stroke engines. The amsoil
>leaves a sticky gunky black deposit which tends to cause the rings
>to get sticky, resulting in high cylinder head temperatures.
>
>You can't go wrong with California Power System's AV2 oil or Pensoil
>Two Stroke Oil for Air-Cooled Engine. There are a number of other
>good two stroke oils out there that people swear by. The subject is
>kind of like politics or religion!
>
>
> > Hello group,
> > ?? Is anyone using Amsoil Saber Professional (ATP) synthetic 2
> cycle oil mix 100 to 1 in a 503 Rotax or had experence with it?
> > ???? Thanks??? Jim Swan
> > ?
> >
> > Jim Swan in Michigan
> > will soon have a Kolb FS
>
>
>--------
>Dave Bigelow
>Kamuela, Hawaii
>FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=46838#46838
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Homecoming 2006 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
24;
| Fri, Sat, and Sun.
Sin Loi GI:
Should have read, "next to last weekend in September
2006................"
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: 2000+ years of flight!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
I am an inexperienced builder and I bought an unfinished kit from someone.
All the parts weren't with the kit and there were some extra parts as well
as parts that don't belong on planes... It didn't take me long to get very
frustrated with it and start making mistakes.
The first time I called The New Kolb Company I was all hot and bothered. I
was met by understanding and all the help I needed, as if I bought it from
them. They have treated me like a friend. While it's not about the money for
them, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND TIME for me. I'm not sure why they help
me so much but I appreciate it greatly. The service I've received has been
tremendous; they sure got me thinking I'll fly this pile of parts soon.
When I do finish it I hope to fly it to the factory, Sun-n-Fun or OSH and
proudly show them and buy them lunch.
David
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