---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 07/15/06: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:30 AM - Re: fuel mix(religion and oil) (pat ladd) 2. 03:38 AM - Re: BRS installations (pat ladd) 3. 04:54 AM - Re: BRS installations (Richard Pike) 4. 12:08 PM - First airplane website update () 5. 12:18 PM - Re: First airplane website update (John Hauck) 6. 12:59 PM - Re: First airplane website update (Herb Gayheart) 7. 01:25 PM - Re: First airplane website update (Eugene Zimmerman) 8. 01:42 PM - Re: First airplane website update (Herb Gayheart) 9. 02:52 PM - Re: First airplane website update (robert bean) 10. 04:37 PM - That could ruin your day (ray anderson) 11. 06:00 PM - Re: That could ruin your day (N111KX (Kip)) 12. 09:20 PM - Re: BRS installations (TheWanderingWench) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:28 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: fuel mix(religion and oil) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" Some of us would disagree. But that would require a different list.>> Hi Richard, didn`t mean to upset anyone but religion is called `a faith` precisely because unlike oil it cannot be objectively tested. I think we should not pursue this here but if you would like a friendly joust with an confirmed sceptic I am here at pj.ladd@btinternet .com Cheers Pat -- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:38:50 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS installations Hi Richard, the subject of BRS crops up quite a lot on the list. Are they mandatory in the US? I think they are compulsory in Germany, well it would be, but here in the UK very few are fitted. I had one many years ago on a Thruster but never bothered on the Challenger and hve no intention of fitting one to the Xtra. In the UK part of the reason is the weight limit, no extra allowance is made for a BRS but it just does not seem to be considered that important. I have never heard pilots discussing them. An aircraft breaking up in flight is almost, but not quite, unheard of and just having an engine pack up is not normally a reason to use the BRS. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:17 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS installations --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Not mandatory at all. I have one on mine, but here in the mountains of E Tennessee and especially the terrain between where I live and TNK factory, if an engine quits, a parachute might become a viable option. There are places where there is genuinely no place to land. But aside from that, I agree, loss of an engine is mostly just a great nuisance. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive pat ladd wrote: > Hi Richard, > > the subject of BRS crops up quite a lot on the list. Are they > mandatory in the US? I think they are compulsory in Germany, well it > would be, but here in the UK very few are fitted. > I had one many years ago on a Thruster but never bothered on the > Challenger and hve no intention of fitting one to the Xtra. In the UK > part of the reason is the weight limit, no extra allowance is made for > a BRS but it just does not seem to be considered that important. I > have never heard pilots discussing them. > > An aircraft breaking up in flight is almost, but not quite, unheard of > and just having an engine pack up is not normally a reason to use the BRS. > > Cheers > > Pat ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:08:59 PM PST US From: Subject: Kolb-List: First airplane website update --> Kolb-List message posted by: Brother and Sister Aviators, At the suggestion of Hans van Alphen, I've updated the website so that the columns can be sorted by the user. Click a column heading to sort by that item, and click the same one again to reverse the sort. Please be aware that to make this work properly I had to change the name field to show the last name first. My mates and I were no go due to wx this morning. We had IMC here until 0900 and by then the wind at altitude was blasting at 23kts, almost direct headwind for our route of flight. Oh, well! Saved some pennies on gas, I guess. -Ken Fackler Kolb Mark II / A722KWF Rochester MI do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:17 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane website update --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" that the | columns can be sorted by the user. | | -Ken Fackler Ken/All: As an added note, we now have 700 members on the Kolb BBS. That's a lot of folks. john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:17 PM PST US From: Herb Gayheart Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane website update --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart > > Ken/All: > > As an added note, we now have 700 members on the Kolb BBS. That's a > > lot of folks. > > john h > mkIII > > DO NOT ARCHIVE That is a bunch--- and take note Travis,Dennis,Donnie and Bruce.... most of them are not flying Kolbs!! :-) Herb do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:25:32 PM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane website update --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman On Jul 15, 2006, at 3:56 PM, Herb Gayheart wrote: > > That is a bunch--- > > and take note Travis,Dennis,Donnie and Bruce.... most of them > are not > flying Kolbs!! :-) Herb Most Kolb pilots eat food but are not food producers. Just offering another irrelevant Kolb fact. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:07 PM PST US From: Herb Gayheart Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane website update --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart Gene Suggesting that since they are members of the list, that they may be "Hungry" for a Kolb . :-) My little Firefly is one hot "Tomato" for very little "lettuce". Herb ps maybe another good survey/data base item... what are list members flying? Model,sn etc.. do not archive... On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:23:51 -0400 Eugene Zimmerman writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman > > > > On Jul 15, 2006, at 3:56 PM, Herb Gayheart wrote: > > > > > That is a bunch--- > > > > and take note Travis,Dennis,Donnie and Bruce.... most of them > > > are not > > flying Kolbs!! :-) Herb > > > Most Kolb pilots eat food but are not food producers. > Just offering another irrelevant Kolb fact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:52:36 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First airplane website update --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Do you count food produced for self-consumption? Just finished a big glob of collards (a yankee yet!) steamed and drenched with olive oil, white vinegar, Louisiana sauce, and bacon bits. some of us here like greens too. -Went good with roast beef panini. Sincere? apologies for straying from approved subject matter. -BB do not archive On 15, Jul 2006, at 4:23 PM, Eugene Zimmerman wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman > > > > On Jul 15, 2006, at 3:56 PM, Herb Gayheart wrote: > >> >> That is a bunch--- >> >> and take note Travis,Dennis,Donnie and Bruce.... most of them are >> not >> flying Kolbs!! :-) Herb > > > Most Kolb pilots eat food but are not food producers. > Just offering another irrelevant Kolb fact. > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:37:41 PM PST US From: ray anderson Subject: Kolb-List: That could ruin your day All, A Kolber wouldn't do this. Ray http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=167944 Ultra Star do not archive --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:00:08 PM PST US From: "N111KX (Kip)" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: That could ruin your day --> Kolb-List message posted by: "N111KX (Kip)" Emergency brake system...??? -------- Kip Firestar II (born September 2000) Atlanta, GA N111KX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=47501#47501 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:04 PM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BRS installations --> Kolb-List message posted by: TheWanderingWench Re: correct installation of BRS: In addition to reading the manual, contact BRS, give them the make/model of your ultralight, and they will send you a diagram of exactly where to mount it. They also ask you to send them photos of the mounting, so that they can help you determine whether or not it's correctly mounted. About 15 years ago I was flying back from the EAA Arlington (WA) airshow, and one of my fellow pilots radio'd that he'd lost all his controls. We were over trees and about to cross over the Columbia River. He pulled his chute (on a J-3 Kitten) and was able to come down without injury. Like some of the rest of you, I consider my BRS an insurance policy for those times when I'm flying over an area with no landing spots. Arty Trost www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."