---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/18/06: 40 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:18 AM - Re: Ultrastar alive (GeoR38@aol.com) 2. 04:18 AM - Re: Ultrastar alive (GeoR38@aol.com) 3. 05:41 AM - Re: Open Letter To Michael A. Bigelow... (robert bean) 4. 05:49 AM - Some brief, impersonal comments about the list (Richard Girard) 5. 06:37 AM - Just a little lie (Richard Girard) 6. 06:51 AM - Re: Open Letter To Michael A. Bigelow... (FS2Kolb@aol.com) 7. 07:51 AM - Re: Re: Matt Dralle Why are we (David Key) 8. 08:23 AM - Re: Kolb Lexan Xtra Question (David Key) 9. 11:22 AM - Tank location (Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com) 10. 11:41 AM - Re: Matt Dralle Why are we (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL) 11. 12:23 PM - Re: Tank location (Richard Girard) 12. 12:42 PM - Starting Warp Drive Prop Pitch 13 degrees? (David Key) 13. 12:48 PM - Re: Tank location (Ralph Hoover) 14. 12:53 PM - Re: Tank location (George T. Alexander, Jr.) 15. 01:03 PM - Re: Just a little lie (Ralph Hoover) 16. 01:16 PM - Re: Tank location (George E. Thompson) 17. 01:27 PM - Re: Front windows on the extra (David Key) 18. 01:39 PM - Re: Fw: KOLB MARK II: (=?ISO-8859-1?B?WuktVOkgQnQu?=) 19. 01:44 PM - Re: Tank location (John Hauck) 20. 01:53 PM - Re: Starting Warp Drive Prop Pitch 13 degrees? (John Hauck) 21. 01:54 PM - Re: Tank location (Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com) 22. 02:00 PM - Re: Fw: KOLB MARK II: (=?ISO-8859-1?B?WuktVOkgQnQu?=) 23. 02:01 PM - Re: Fw: KOLB MARK II: (=?ISO-8859-1?B?WuktVOkgQnQu?=) 24. 02:11 PM - Re: Fw: KOLB MARK II: (=?ISO-8859-1?B?WuktVOkgQnQu?=) 25. 02:13 PM - Re: Fw: KOLB MARK II: (=?iso-8859-2?B?WuktVOkgQnQu?=) 26. 02:14 PM - Re: Starting Warp Drive Prop Pitch 13 degrees? (John Hauck) 27. 02:48 PM - Re: Open Letter To Michael A. Bigelow... (Larry Bourne) 28. 03:47 PM - Re: Tank location (russ kinne) 29. 04:42 PM - The New Kolb Aircraft Co. (Larry Cottrell) 30. 05:13 PM - Re: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. (Ralph Hoover) 31. 05:37 PM - Re: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. (John Cooley) 32. 06:34 PM - Glass Panel Construction DVD (Jon Croke) 33. 06:44 PM - Re: Fw: KOLB MARK II: (Eugene Zimmerman) 34. 06:54 PM - Re: Glass Panel Construction DVD (Richard Girard) 35. 07:13 PM - Re: Fw: KOLB MARK II: (Bob Noyer) 36. 07:15 PM - Re: Glass Panel Construction DVD (Bob Noyer) 37. 07:59 PM - Re: Glass Panel Construction DVD (Jack B. Hart) 38. 08:12 PM - Re: Tank location (Jerry Deckard) 39. 08:24 PM - Re: Tank location (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com) 40. 09:07 PM - Re: Firefly W/ bigger tank (DAquaNut@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:18:48 AM PST US From: GeoR38@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar alive In a message dated 7/4/2006 10:11:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, worrybear@verizon.net writes: Ed, I have run My UL202 for 155 Hours, after a ZDE overhaul, It has a Mikuni carb and requires a rejet for spring and fall in PA. I have been very satisfied with it. As long as I keep the temps in range it performs 100%. The only Cayuna I have seen stop was from a bad primer bulb. I think the bad reputation came from operators error in the early days. Dan Walter Ultrastar Palmyra, PA I agree, no one used egts then . George Randolph \Firestar driver from The Villages ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:18:48 AM PST US From: GeoR38@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar alive In a message dated 7/4/2006 10:11:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, worrybear@verizon.net writes: Ed, I have run My UL202 for 155 Hours, after a ZDE overhaul, It has a Mikuni carb and requires a rejet for spring and fall in PA. I have been very satisfied with it. As long as I keep the temps in range it performs 100%. The only Cayuna I have seen stop was from a bad primer bulb. I think the bad reputation came from operators error in the early days. Dan Walter Ultrastar Palmyra, PA ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:52 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Open Letter To Michael A. Bigelow... --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean I prefer red VW bugs myself......... 40 hp 6 volt -BB do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:55 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Kolb-List: Some brief, impersonal comments about the list Matt et al, The bottom line is that W.R. Hearst was correct when he said "Freedom of the press belongs to the man who owns one." This service is made available and, so far, no one has showed up at my door demanding I use it. If one believes at all in capitalism, then one knows that those who fail to advance to the latest technological level will be left behind eventually. Those who provide a service decide what it will entail, those who use it decide when that service is no longer sufficient to their needs. This portion of the lists is dedicated to the Kolb family of aircraft. I resent those who clutter it up with what any reasonable person would describe as inappropriate. In my short time here I have learned who to read and those who are simply a waste of time. The former gets opened, the latter gets deleted. It can be that simple. Like little children that pull off their diaper in the middle of the supermarket, some people have to have attention and it makes no difference whether that attention is negative or positive. Once you know who they are, why sink to their level? If deprived of what they seek, the bottom feeders slink off to other prospects. Do as you wish, but my recommendation is to use your delete button often and use the time you save to go build, fly, and maintain your Kolb aircraft. I'm happier when I do that, but your results may differ. My 2 cents. -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:02 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Kolb-List: Just a little lie I've been looking to buy some scales to do weight and balance. When I found something that looked like it would fit the bill, I e-mailed them requesting a quote on three. The reply was brief, "do you mind if I ask what you're using them for?" "I'm building three wheeled electric cars and I need them to check the front to rear weight bias". "I have two vehicles awaiting battery installation and plan to purchase soon", was my answer. The following morning an e-mail arrived with price and a 1-800 number to order. I called. "Good morning, I'd like to order three of your Whizbang 500 lb. scales." "Is this Richard?" "Yes" "Electric cars, huh? "Yes" "You know we have to ask, some people want to use them for aircraft or something weird like that." "Really" "Yes, now will you be using a credit card.............?" -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:34 AM PST US From: FS2Kolb@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Open Letter To Michael A. Bigelow... Matt, You can't reason with a intransigent person. The plurality of us know there is nothing wrong with this list and the long hours you have spent keeping all the lists running smoothly will always be greatly appreciated. Thank you Do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:59 AM PST US From: "David Key" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Matt Dralle Why are we --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" I thrid the first - permanently - banned member on the list be JetPilot. >From: russ kinne >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Matt Dralle Why are we >Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:59:03 -0400 > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne > >Amen, Ed! -- you're right on. Hope he listens. >do not archive > > >On Jul 17, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Ed Chmielewski wrote: > >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" >> >> >>Michael, >> >> Why aren't you posting to Matt directly? Your attempts to >>ridicule and embarass anyone by posting directly on the list are falling >>on deaf ears. >> >> Why do you think you're the only one experiencing any 'problems'? >>Might be your setup, because everyone else is happy. >> >> I vote you be the first - permanently - banned member on this >>list. You are a blight on the landscape, and a waste of bandwidth. >> >>Ed in JXN >>MkII/503 >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:10 PM >> >> >>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JetPilot" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>There is a problem with the way the list is working, and I have pointed >>>it out to you. There is no reason you should have taken offense to that >>>or even gotten defensive about it. >>> >>>Michael A. Bigelow >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Read this topic online here: >>> >>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=47913#47913 >>> >> >> >> >> >>www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >>wiki.matronics.com >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >http://wiki.matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:23:50 AM PST US From: "David Key" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Lexan Xtra Question --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" Thanks, I guess I'm going to go with overlapping the lexan. I'd like to see photos of your xtras!! >From: Cat36Fly@aol.com >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Lexan Xtra Question >Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:23:48 EDT > >I installed mine the same as Jim. One row of rivets. > >Larry Tasker >Mklllx 582 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:22:16 AM PST US From: Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com Subject: Kolb-List: Tank location Fellow Flyers, I noticed on the pictures sent in by Will U. that his gas tank on his Firestar is located way down low sitting on top of the main boom tube. On some of the two seater airships the twin tanks are also located very low. Heres my question: on my Firestar my tank is located half way between the boom tube and the top of the main fuselage tube, actually closer to the top than the bottom. Is this in the wrong location? Where should the gas tank be located on an original Firestar? Confused down on the Farm! The Flying Farmer ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:41:29 AM PST US From: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Matt Dralle Why are we --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL "JetPilot" wrote: << In just one day, my thread was broken into 11 different threads thanks to this antiquated email system >> Hey, JetPilot - Isn't the solution obvious to you? Why don't you just QUIT the List, if all you're gonna do is gripe. Antiquated system? In its current form, this Kolb List has aided me HUNDREDS of times in the construction, operation and maintenance of my Kolb. This is the exact purpose of the List. I'm happy with Matt's format, and his efforts in getting us all connected. And I will continue to support Matronics every November, when I send a check to Matt. I look for the content, not how "modern" or "electronically compatible" the List is. I have a nicely-finished, perfectly-flying Kolb to show for my efforts in following the Kolb List over the past ten years. What else matters? Spout your opinion if you wish, but do NOT advertise that your opinion is the viewpoint of others. Matt - your List is fine, Amigo. I appreciate your good work! Dennis Kirby Mark-3, 912, in Cedar Crest, NM Do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:23:21 PM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tank location Dwight, Just as a data point since I didn't build it, the Firestar I just bought has the tank as you describe yours. Rick On 7/18/06, Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com wrote: > > > Fellow Flyers, I noticed on the pictures sent in by Will U. that his gas > tank on his Firestar is located way down low sitting on top of the main boom > tube. On some of the two seater airships the twin tanks are also located > very low. Heres my question: on my Firestar my tank is located half way > between the boom tube and the top of the main fuselage tube, actually closer > to the top than the bottom. Is this in the wrong location? Where should > the gas tank be located on an original Firestar? > Confused down on the Farm! > > The Flying Farmer > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:42:43 PM PST US From: "David Key" Subject: Kolb-List: Starting Warp Drive Prop Pitch 13 degrees? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" I am pitching my prop for the first time engine start and I wanted to know what a good starting degree should be. I just need a ball park since I'll adjust to rpm after things get going. I searched the archive and came up with 11.5 deg. I'm running a 912 with a warp drive and didn't want the engine to overrev so I figured 13 degrees would be a good start. Any thoughts on this are welcome. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:48:36 PM PST US From: "Ralph Hoover" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tank location --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" Dwight, If you would send me your e-mail address directly and have high speed internet, I will send you pictures of mine including the photo's of the inside area and cutout as in my "single seat 5 gallion" Firestar KXP 1991 vintage. My direct e-mail is FLHT99REH@columbus.rr.com Ohio Ralph Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=48311#48311 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:53:05 PM PST US From: "George T. Alexander, Jr." Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Tank location Dwight: Reasonably sure that what you have is the standard for the Original FS. My hangar neighbor and I both had Original Firestars (his was kind of, mostly factory built) and both were the same as yours. George Alexander http://gtalexander.home.at.net -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Girard Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:22 PM Dwight, Just as a data point since I didn't build it, the Firestar I just bought has the tank as you describe yours. Rick On 7/18/06, Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com wrote: Fellow Flyers, I noticed on the pictures sent in by Will U. that his gas tank on his Firestar is located way down low sitting on top of the main boom tube. On some of the two seater airships the twin tanks are also located very low. Heres my question: on my Firestar my tank is located half way between the boom tube and the top of the main fuselage tube, actually closer to the top than the bottom. Is this in the wrong location? Where should the gas tank be located on an original Firestar? Confused down on the Farm! The Flying Farmer -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:03:56 PM PST US From: "Ralph Hoover" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Just a little lie --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" Rick, I went to "Target" bought 4 scales, 0-300# each for $.7.00 each. 3 for plane 1 for spare. Instructor and I lifted Firestar KXP and lowered each wheel (front sides first) onto scale. Weighed plane. Was pleased. Decided to do weights and balance. I climbed in plane (at instructors suggestion, ...he, he!) and sat down. Port scale shot out from under wheel, shout "WHOOPS", Starboard scale shot out from under Port wheel, sigh of "OH CRAP" emited from my lips, plane wiggled a bit, plane rolled forward, blam! Rear wheel rolled forward and pop, scale shot across room, spring system to left, upper stamping of scale body shot out right, base stayed stationary! Kolb =0 Scales=3! Dumb move on our part. Next visit to Target, we buy 5 scales: two for starboard wheel, two for port wheel, one for back wheel. Block plane from forward / backward movement. Climb into plane gently! On the bottom of the scales they stated: "No critical weighing"! Go figure. Laughing all the way back to Target! Heavy Ohio Ralph! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=48315#48315 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:16:53 PM PST US From: "George E. Thompson" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tank location I put my 10 gal. tank on both my Firestars directly on the boom tube. Az. Bald Eagle ----- Original Message ----- From: Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Tank location Fellow Flyers, I noticed on the pictures sent in by Will U. that his gas tank on his Firestar is located way down low sitting on top of the main boom tube. On some of the two seater airships the twin tanks are also located very low. Heres my question: on my Firestar my tank is located half way between the boom tube and the top of the main fuselage tube, actually closer to the top than the bottom. Is this in the wrong location? Where should the gas tank be located on an original Firestar? Confused down on the Farm! The Flying Farmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- No virus found in this incoming message. 7/17/2006 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:27:18 PM PST US From: "David Key" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Front windows on the extra --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" wow so yours tucks under. >From: "Craig Nelson" >To: >Subject: Kolb-List: Front windows on the extra >Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:16:01 -0400 > > <> Th <> is <> i ><> s <> how I installed the front windows >Uncle craig > ><< DSC_0143.JPG >> ><< DSC_0145.JPG >> ><< DSC_0146.JPG >> ><< DSC_0147.JPG >> ><< DSC_0149.JPG >> ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:39:55 PM PST US From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?WuktVOkgQnQu?= Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: KOLB MARK II: --> Kolb-List message posted by: =?ISO-8859-1?B?WuktVOkgQnQu?= Hallo Eugen, You have right, the Mark II can fly without documents if it has a pilot on the bord and the tank is full. byby Tibi ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:11 AM > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman > > Zoltn, > > Good luck, > The documents you need you will probably have to create yourself because > they most likely never did exist. > > The fact is where I live a Kolb Mark II with a 582 Rotax will fly just > as well without the document . < g > > Sorry, I know that does not help you with your problem. But you need some > local help for your special problem. > The Kolb Mark II is a good airplane but it is now an orphan without its > parent company. > > > On Jul 17, 2006, at 4:32 PM, Z-T Bt. wrote: > >> >> Hallo Everybody >> >> I want to ask somebody help.I have bought a used - but in very good >> condicion - KOLB MARK II. tipe /with Rotax 582 engin/ plane from a >> german pilot. >> Onfortunately, the plane has no any dokuments becouse the owner lost >> those whenn he moved to Hungary. >> It is my problem, i can not get licence in Hungary without this >> dokuments. >> So I need an - air and technical operation manual >> - original type certification, >> - drawing set from the Kolb Mark II. >> - load test report, >> - measurement of weight and centre of gravity >> report, >> - report of initial test flight. >> I ask somebody to help me in my problem. >> I'm waiting for reply of somebody, who has got those documents. >> Best reghards >> >> Zoltn Tibor >> zetebete@t-online.hu >> HUNGARY >> > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > _____________ NOD32 1.1664 (20060717) Informci _____________ > > Az zenetet a NOD32 antivirus system megvizsglta. > http://www.nod32.hu > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:44:43 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tank location --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" Is this in the wrong | location? Where should the gas tank be located on an original Firestar? | Confused down on the Farm! | | The Flying Farmer TFF/Gang: That is the stock location of the original FS fuel tank. Did you know you can put an 18 gal tank in that same location??? That's how much fuel I was hauling in my original FS. john h ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 01:53:09 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Starting Warp Drive Prop Pitch 13 degrees? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" I'm running a 912 with a warp drive and didn't want the | engine to overrev so I figured 13 degrees would be a good start. Any | thoughts on this are welcome. The throttle will prevent over speeding the engine. You would have to turn 5,800 rpm to red line it. What diameter is your prop and how many blades? Can't remember for sure, but I think I was pitched at 11.5 or 12.0 deg when I was running a 912 with a 70" three blade Warp. Presently running a 72" three blade Warp with a 912uls at 11.5, I think. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 01:54:38 PM PST US From: Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tank location George, please expand on your 10 gallon set up. Do you two fives or one 10? What about weight, you must be over P103? Strength, can the might Firestar haul that load? What engine are you using? Any other info? do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:00:43 PM PST US From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?WuktVOkgQnQu?= Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: KOLB MARK II: Hallo Robert, Do You think, the old KOLB firm sold the planes without document? withou test, without measuring, and so on.....? Was somebody, who bought those plane without any documented control? I do not think it..... For there I promiss, there are somebody round the world, who can send me a copy about those document! I think, it exist pilot friendship. Byby Tibi ----- Original Message ----- From: robert bean To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:24 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: KOLB MARK II: We should feel sympathy for Zoltan. The question is: are there many N-numbered MkIIs here in the USA? -my guess is there never was an operation manual no type certificate no test flight report no load test report BUT someone could email him a copy of W&B a drawing set an operation manual Good luck ZT do not archive On 17, Jul 2006, at 4:32 PM, Z=E9-T=E9 Bt. wrote: Hallo Everybody I want to ask somebody help.I have bought a used - but in very good condicion - KOLB MARK II. tipe /with Rotax 582 engin/ plane from a german pilot. Onfortunately, the plane has no any dokuments becouse the owner lost those whenn he moved to Hungary. It is my problem, i can not get licence in Hungary without this dokuments. So I need an - air and technical operation manual - original type certification, - drawing set from the Kolb Mark II. - load test report, - measurement of weight and centre of gravity report, - report of initial test flight. I ask somebody to help me in my problem. I'm waiting for reply of somebody, who has got those documents. Best reghards Zolt=E1n Tibor zetebete@t-online.hu HUNGARY ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 02:01:49 PM PST US From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?WuktVOkgQnQu?= Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: KOLB MARK II: --> Kolb-List message posted by: =?ISO-8859-1?B?WuktVOkgQnQu?= Thank You Bob, I'll try it. By Tibi ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:54 AM > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > > > We should feel sympathy for Zoltan. > The question is: are there many N-numbered MkIIs here in the USA? > > > Zoltan/Bob B/Gang: > > Perhaps he should contact TNK. Maybe they can help him out. There is > a dealer in England. > > Zoltan can get all the contact info here, including the England > contact: > > http://www.tnkolbaircraft.com/contact_us.html > > john h > mkIII > > > _____________ NOD32 1.1664 (20060717) Informci _____________ > > Az zenetet a NOD32 antivirus system megvizsglta. > http://www.nod32.hu > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 02:11:24 PM PST US From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?WuktVOkgQnQu?= Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: KOLB MARK II: --> Kolb-List message posted by: =?ISO-8859-1?B?WuktVOkgQnQu?= Eugen, I think ,in my KOLB MARK II was the engin changed from Rotax 503 to Rotax 582. The question is: have somebody got those document round the world about MARK II /with R 503 or 582 it is indifferent/ By Tibi ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:21 AM > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman > > > On Jul 17, 2006, at 7:24 PM, robert bean wrote: > >> We should feel sympathy for Zoltan. >> The question is: are there many N-numbered MkIIs here in the USA? > > With the 582 Rotax? They would be very rare birds. > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > _____________ NOD32 1.1664 (20060717) Informci _____________ > > Az zenetet a NOD32 antivirus system megvizsglta. > http://www.nod32.hu > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 02:13:04 PM PST US From: =?iso-8859-2?B?WuktVOkgQnQu?= Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: KOLB MARK II: ----- Original Message ----- From: Z=E9-T=E9 Bt. To: kolb lista 2 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: KOLB MARK II: Hallo Everybody I want to ask somebody help.I have bought a used - but in very good condicion - KOLB MARK II. tipe /with Rotax 582 engin/ plane from a german pilot. Onfortunately, the plane has no any dokuments becouse the owner lost those whenn he moved to Hungary. It is my problem, i can not get licence in Hungary without this dokuments. So I need an - air and technical operation manual - original type certification, - drawing set from the Kolb Mark II. - load test report, - measurement of weight and centre of gravity report, - report of initial test flight. I ask somebody to help me in my problem. I'm waiting for reply of somebody, who has got those documents. Best reghards Zolt=E1n Tibor zetebete@t-online.hu HUNGARY _____________ NOD32 1.1664 (20060717) Inform=E1ci=F3 _____________ Az =FCzenetet a NOD32 antivirus system megvizsg=E1lta. http://www.nod32.hu ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 02:14:10 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Starting Warp Drive Prop Pitch 13 degrees? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" David K/Gang: Also forgot to mention, the 912 and 912uls are started with the throttle closed when using the enricher, and with just a "crack" of throttle if starting without the enricher. I normally start mine without the enricher, unless it is very cold. Well, for Alabama.................has to get pretty cold. Without enricher, if the engine does not fire immediately, release the starter, reach up pull on th enricher, close throttle, hit starter. If it doesn't fire immediately, you may not have enough voltage to turn the engine 200 rpm in order to activate the CDI. If it does not turn 200 rpm with starter, it will never start. Only other factor that would prevent starting a 912UL and 912ULS is no fuel, or spark plug gap too large, i.e., set at factory recommended gap. About .020 to .025" works great. Sorry, got carried away............ john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 02:48:22 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Open Letter To Michael A. Bigelow... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" ArrrrrKayIck ! ! ! Gotta be white with 12 volts. :-) Do not Archive. (Got dumped from the List somehow, but back now to bug ya some more.) Lar. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:39 AM > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > > I prefer red VW bugs myself......... > 40 hp > 6 volt > -BB > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 03:47:02 PM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tank location Dwight, you must realize that the higher he tank is, the less power is needed to pump fuel to the engine! I'd consider a higher tank location a plus. FWIW do not archive On Jul 18, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Richard Girard wrote: > Dwight, Just as a data point since I didn't build it, the Firestar > I just bought has the tank as you describe yours. > > Rick > > On 7/18/06, Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com > wrote: > > Fellow Flyers, I noticed on the pictures sent in by Will U. that > his gas tank on his Firestar is located way down low sitting on top > of the main boom tube. On some of the two seater airships the twin > tanks are also located very low. Heres my question: on my > Firestar my tank is located half way between the boom tube and the > top of the main fuselage tube, actually closer to the top than the > bottom. Is this in the wrong location? Where should the gas tank > be located on an original Firestar? > Confused down on the Farm! > > The Flying Farmer > > > -- > Rick Girard > "Ya'll drop on in" > takes on a whole new meaning > when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 04:42:52 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Kolb-List: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. Hi, I know that there was a thread recently about TNK not being helpful. I also know that it was answered by quite a few people that their experience had been a lot different. Even though the answer has been given in the affirmative I wanted to relate what happened to me today. I am buying some used parts from Terry Davis, legs and axles. The deal was that I should give him half the new cost, which is a great deal for me. The only way that I could find that information was to call TNK. Now I have to say that it takes a lot of balls to call a company that makes it living by selling us parts and planes and ask them to help you save money. I put it off until I was feeling guilty about not getting Terry any money. ( I had written him once hoping that he would just set a price, he wouldn't) So I called Travis today at TNK, and I was honest with him, told him what I was about, tried to apologize for being such a jerk. He would have none of it and gave me the information that I needed, and much more besides. He also lamented the rise in prices that every thing from metal to nuts and bolts that they had to pass on to the customer. I am not sure how any conversation with the guys at TNK could be confused with not being helpful at all. I have dealt with both companies, old and new, and I have to tell you that this one is one of the easiest that I have ever found. Count me as a fan! Larry, Oregon ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 05:13:29 PM PST US From: "Ralph Hoover" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" I second that emotion! I have spoken to and been a pain in the touch to almost everyone at TNK and they have not even batted an eye. I have called on a Monday and on a Friday, no difference. They have answered questions pertaining to the Old Kolb Company with as much enthusiasm as if they were selling you a new Kolb. I have never dealt with any other plane manufacturer, but I have considerable experience in the business world with Manufacturers, Wholesalers, Distributors and Dealers of all sorts of Industrial, Commercial and end user products and I can emphatically say "each and everyone of these business could learn a great lesson from each and every individual that is allowed to pick-up a phone at TNK Aircraft Company. I am Blessed by that relationship and not one time have they tried to rush me off or not gotten back to me when they said they would. In the Business world of today they are "Certified FREAKS"! I somewhat remember many many years ago that almost every legitimate business treated me like that. What happened? Satisifed Ralph of Ohio Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=48396#48396 ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 05:37:22 PM PST US From: "John Cooley" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. Hi Gang, I think the New Kolb folks are a great bunch of people and will try to help when possible. I know I have talked to Travis several times and he has been very cordial and helpful, more so than he has to be. I believe the confusion about them not being helpful is when we call and ask for parts for a plane that they don=92t build or sell, such as a Twinstar Mark II, ultrastar, original Firestars etc. The planes that were no longer being sold when the Kolb company swapped hands are not supported by the TNK bunch and therefore they can=92t help with supplying parts for them, but that is what this great list is for. Most of the time someone on the list knows that a particular part for a Mark II is the same as what is currently on the Firestars and can be ordered that way. That might not always be the case, but lots of times it is. My 2 cents. Do not archive Take care, John Cooley QUOTE: Hi, I know that there was a thread recently about TNK not being helpful. I also know that it was answered by quite a few people that their experience had been a lot different. Even though the answer has been given in the affirmative I wanted to relate what happened to me today. I am not sure how any conversation with the guys at TNK could be confused with not being helpful at all. I have dealt with both companies, old and new, and I have to tell you that this one is one of the easiest that I have ever found. Count me as a fan! Larry, Oregon -- No virus found in this incoming message. 7/17/2006 -- 7/17/2006 ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:36 PM PST US From: "Jon Croke" Subject: Kolb-List: Glass Panel Construction DVD This is an announcement of interest to the Kolb community that www.HomebuiltHELP.com has just released a new DVD video presentation entitled: " Building a Glass Panel for your Homebuilt Aircraft ". It is a unique presentation in that it allows first time panel builders see what is involved with designing and fabricating a modern electronic display panel for their homebuilt by watching someone do it from start to finish. I will leave it at that and those that are interested in this topic can visit the webpage outline at http://homebuilthelp.com/Glass_Panel.htm Thanks! Jon ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:22 PM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: KOLB MARK II: --> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman Tibi, I believe the Old Kolb firm sold ONLY material kits along with basic builder's manual to the builders of planes. Kolb did not build and sell airplanes. The builder has always been responsible to provide all the technical information to create the necessary documents for the plane they built. Kolb cannot provide detailed information about a plane they did not build and probably never had the chance to test or examine. You may still be able to obtain the basic information originally provided by Kolb about the Kolb Mark II DESIGN, but your plane may or may not be the same. The fact that your plane has a 582 Rotax indicates that it is NOT the same as the Kolb design. One example ,,,,,,,, By mounting a 582 Rotax on a Mark II means it will no longer allow the wings to fold as DESIGNED unless the engine and thrust line are raised up higher than Mark II DESIGN. Using documents with information from another builder's airplane is certain to be inaccurate for your plane. The good news is the plane will fly just as well with inaccurate information on the documents as with no documents. :-) Good luck, Gene >>> Do You think, the old KOLB firm sold the planes without document? withou test, without measuring, and so on.....? Was somebody, who bought those plane without any documented control? I do not think it.....<<< On Jul 18, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Z-T Bt. wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: =?ISO-8859-1?B?WuktVOkgQnQu?= > > > Eugen, > I think ,in my KOLB MARK II was the engin changed from Rotax 503 to > Rotax 582. > The question is: have somebody got those document round the world > about MARK II /with R 503 or 582 it is indifferent/ > By Tibi > ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:21 AM ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:11 PM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Glass Panel Construction DVD Jon, none of the URL's worked with Firefox, Are they IE only? Rick On 7/18/06, Jon Croke wrote: > > This is an announcement of interest to the Kolb community that > www.HomebuiltHELP.com has just released a new DVD video > presentation entitled: " Building a Glass Panel for your Homebuilt > Aircraft ". > > It is a unique presentation in that it allows first time panel builders > see what is involved with designing and fabricating a modern electronic > display panel for their homebuilt by watching someone do it from start to > finish. > > I will leave it at that and those that are interested in this topic can > visit the webpage outline at http://homebuilthelp.com/Glass_Panel.htm > > > Thanks! > > Jon > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:35 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: KOLB MARK II: --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer Gene Z., Old Kolb DID sell some factory-built machines, of several models. regards, Bob N. http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 07:15:39 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Glass Panel Construction DVD --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer NO GO with Safari regards, Bob N. http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 07:59:20 PM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Glass Panel Construction DVD --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" Jon, none of the URL's worked with Firefox, Are they IE only? Rick, They came up empty on my browser too. But if you cut and paste they will come up. On 7/18/06, Jon Croke wrote: This is an announcement of interest to the Kolb community that www.HomebuiltHELP.com has just released a new DVD video presentation entitled: " Building a Glass Panel for your Homebuilt Aircraft ". It is a unique presentation in that it allows first time panel builders see what is involved with designing and fabricating a modern electronic display panel for their homebuilt by watching someone do it from start to finish. I will leave it at that and those that are interested in this topic can visit the webpage outline at http://homebuilthelp.com/Glass_Panel.htm Thanks! Jon ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:46 PM PST US From: "Jerry Deckard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tank location --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Deckard" John, Where can I buy such a tank and how did you get it in there? Jerry ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:44 PM > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > > Is this in the wrong > Firestar? > > TFF/Gang: > > That is the stock location of the original FS fuel tank. > > Did you know you can put an 18 gal tank in that same location??? > > That's how much fuel I was hauling in my original FS. > > john h > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:20 PM PST US From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tank location In a message dated 7/18/2006 2:23:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com writes: on my Firestar my tank is located half way between the boom tube and the top of the main fuselage tube, actually closer to the top than the bottom. Is this in the wrong location? Where should the gas tank be located on an original Firestar? Dwight and All, As others stated, the original FireStar fuel tank was located up high as yours is. I believe the reason is that since the fabric on the fuselage sides goes all the way up to the wing, the tank was located up high in order to be able to reach the filler cap. Later FireStars (ie. KX & KXP) had the fuselage side fabric lower (I believe Kolb referred to it as a "convertible") and the tank was located down low on the boom tube. Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:56 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly W/ bigger tank List: Anyone flying a Firefly with a 10 gallon tank, or is it unsafe? I only weigh 175lb so I thought maybe I could put a larger capacity tank and still not have the gross weight as high as some one flying with only 5 gal.and a pilot weight of 210 lbs .or so. Comments??? Ed Diebel