---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/20/06: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:39 AM - Re: joyride (pat ladd) 2. 04:43 AM - Re: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. (Travis Brown) 3. 04:49 AM - Re: Just a little lie (pat ladd) 4. 09:41 AM - Re: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. (thumb) 5. 06:01 PM - Re: Re: Hot morning in Arizona (Craig Nelson) 6. 06:16 PM - Re: Re: Hot morning in Arizona (Todd Fredricks) 7. 07:11 PM - Re: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. (icrashrc) 8. 07:17 PM - Re: First Airplane (icrashrc) 9. 07:28 PM - Re: Just a little lie (DAquaNut@aol.com) 10. 09:30 PM - Hot summer flight (Craig Nelson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:44 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: joyride --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" Up til now I have never used flaps. Couldn't see a need.>> Hi Robert, like you I am a tyro on the Xtra but lowering the flaps will not only alter the landing trajectory but it will lower the stalling, and therefore the landing and takeoff speed. A few knots in hand has got to be worth while. Don`t use full flap until you are used to the plane. She drops very steeply indeed and unless you have some tall trees to get over on the approach that last notch isn`t really needed.. Good luck Pat -- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:42 AM PST US From: "Travis Brown" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. Thanks so much for the kind words. I give 100 % to keep people happy and provide good service. I know what it means to have support when you need it. Travis @ Kolb ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Nelson To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:14 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. Travis thank you for all your support over the past 6 years you have always Ben there for me and have gone the extra mile for the milows. Travis has helped us even when there are not only so many aircraft that TNK did not build or engineer but to keep up with changes and improvements on the current aircraft. He has gone out of his way to get parts that are no longer made at TNK. If you can give him an example he can get her done. We love these little birds and it is refreshing when someone goes beyond expectations of the employer and gives thankless service!!!!!!!!!!!!! Again from Milow Tim and Uncle craig thanks Travis and TNK Uncle craig Do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Travis Brown Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:38 AM To: kolb-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. Thank you Larry very much Sir for the kind words Always glad to help Travis @ Kolb ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Cottrell To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:41 PM Subject: Kolb-List: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. Hi, I know that there was a thread recently about TNK not being helpful. I also know that it was answered by quite a few people that their experience had been a lot different. Even though the answer has been given in the affirmative I wanted to relate what happened to me today. I am buying some used parts from Terry Davis, legs and axles. The deal was that I should give him half the new cost, which is a great deal for me. The only way that I could find that information was to call TNK. Now I have to say that it takes a lot of balls to call a company that makes it living by selling us parts and planes and ask them to help you save money. I put it off until I was feeling guilty about not getting Terry any money. ( I had written him once hoping that he would just set a price, he wouldn't) So I called Travis today at TNK, and I was honest with him, told him what I was about, tried to apologize for being such a jerk. He would have none of it and gave me the information that I needed, and much more besides. He also lamented the rise in prices that every thing from metal to nuts and bolts that they had to pass on to the customer. I am not sure how any conversation with the guys at TNK could be confused with not being helpful at all. I have dealt with both companies, old and new, and I have to tell you that this one is one of the easiest that I have ever found. Count me as a fan! Larry, Oregon ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:49:13 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Just a little lie In the wonderful world of product liability it's better to start from a known point.>> Hi Richard . thankfully we are not at that stage yet. Just wait a bit. While the courts and the lawmakers are all lawyers it is hardly surprising that they create legislation that ensures that the legal business is kept busy. Very sad really. Because it only needs one judge to look at a case like that and say `Don`t be ridiculous, get out of my court and you will be liable for costs for wasting the courts time" and the whole nonsensical edifice would come tumbling down. Crazy isn`t it as we mainly fly with a Rotax with a sticker on it saying `Not for use in aircraft` Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:19 AM PST US From: "thumb" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. I agree with Larry and Uncle Craig, the entire crew up there at TNK are a great bunch of people to do business with from the owner, Mister Chestnut and all. I have always got super service from them and consider the entire crew good friends. And my special thanks to Travis for his service and help. Travis and Donnie make a good team. Bill Futrell ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Nelson To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:14 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. Travis thank you for all your support over the past 6 years you have always Ben there for me and have gone the extra mile for the milows. Travis has helped us even when there are not only so many aircraft that TNK did not build or engineer but to keep up with changes and improvements on the current aircraft. He has gone out of his way to get parts that are no longer made at TNK. If you can give him an example he can get her done. We love these little birds and it is refreshing when someone goes beyond expectations of the employer and gives thankless service!!!!!!!!!!!!! Again from Milow Tim and Uncle craig thanks Travis and TNK Uncle craig Do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Travis Brown Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:38 AM To: kolb-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. Thank you Larry very much Sir for the kind words Always glad to help Travis @ Kolb ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Cottrell To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:41 PM Subject: Kolb-List: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. Hi, I know that there was a thread recently about TNK not being helpful. I also know that it was answered by quite a few people that their experience had been a lot different. Even though the answer has been given in the affirmative I wanted to relate what happened to me today. I am buying some used parts from Terry Davis, legs and axles. The deal was that I should give him half the new cost, which is a great deal for me. The only way that I could find that information was to call TNK. Now I have to say that it takes a lot of balls to call a company that makes it living by selling us parts and planes and ask them to help you save money. I put it off until I was feeling guilty about not getting Terry any money. ( I had written him once hoping that he would just set a price, he wouldn't) So I called Travis today at TNK, and I was honest with him, told him what I was about, tried to apologize for being such a jerk. He would have none of it and gave me the information that I needed, and much more besides. He also lamented the rise in prices that every thing from metal to nuts and bolts that they had to pass on to the customer. I am not sure how any conversation with the guys at TNK could be confused with not being helpful at all. I have dealt with both companies, old and new, and I have to tell you that this one is one of the easiest that I have ever found. Count me as a fan! Larry, Oregon ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:02 PM PST US From: "Craig Nelson" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Hot morning in Arizona --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Craig Nelson" WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! John made the adjustments today and the without the X it now flies 110mph @ 2800rpm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks and it doesn't matter what time it is the Iditarod is ready to fly!!!!!!!!! Uncle craig -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:23 PM --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" Can any one give suggestions | the prop is pitched at 11.5 deg and at 5200 the air speed is only 50 to | 55 it feels a bit mushy. | Uncle craig Unk Craig/Gang: Maybe you are flying too early in the morning. Airplane hasn't had a chance to wake up completely. Shoulda got a mkIII without the X. ;-) john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:32 PM PST US From: Todd Fredricks Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hot morning in Arizona --> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks With the engine enclosure or not Craig? Todd On 7/20/06 8:55 PM, "Craig Nelson" wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Craig Nelson" > > WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! John made the adjustments today and the without the X > it now flies 110mph @ 2800rpm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks and it doesn't > matter what time it is the Iditarod is ready to fly!!!!!!!!! > Uncle craig > DO NOT ARCHIVE> -- Todd Fredricks, DO Flying Fox Services Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com Photos Located at http://www.flickr.com/photos/flyingfoxservices/ DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:10 PM PST US From: "icrashrc" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: The New Kolb Aircraft Co. --> Kolb-List message posted by: "icrashrc" Two thumbs up from northern Indiana as well. Travis, Donnie, and Bruce from TNK have done nothing but bend over backwards to help with any question I've had. Brian and Helen from Custom Air have also been a tremendous help. Almost everyone on this list has been helpful whether they know it or not. Thank you one and all, Scott Thompson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=48936#48936 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:17 PM PST US From: "icrashrc" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: First Airplane --> Kolb-List message posted by: "icrashrc" Ken has already added this info but i thought i would post it here as well. The first time I left the ground was for 1 hour of aerobatic instruction in a T-6 Texan. The date was 8/18/1996. Attached is a pic of my final preflight briefing. -------- Scott do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=48938#48938 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/scott_t_6_web01_921.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:01 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Just a little lie In a message dated 7/20/2006 6:49:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, pj.ladd@btinternet.com writes: Crazy isn`t it as we mainly fly with a Rotax with a sticker on it saying `Not for use in aircraft` Cheers Pat On the BR 8ES Spark plugs I buy, There is a picture of a plane with a circle and slash symbol on it . That is the plug that Rotax says to use in my 447. No one wants the liability. Ed Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:30:57 PM PST US From: "Craig Nelson" Subject: Kolb-List: Hot summer flight <> Mr <> . <> fl <> yi <> ng Fox(Todd) No the cowling was not on. just took Johns suggestion and this morning it was amazing the performance we saw. here are some pictures of Lt.Dan removing the X and you can see Slick with the windex doing his job making sure there is no X left on the mark 3 uncle craig do not archive---- but this information might be useful to any one with a MK3 with an x on it ha ha