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1. 04:41 AM - OSH (John Hauck)
2. 05:36 AM - Re: OSH (Todd Fredricks)
3. 05:36 AM - Re: Re: Hot morning in Arizona (Thom Riddle)
4. 05:49 AM - Re: Re: Hot morning in Arizona (Thom Riddle)
5. 07:51 AM - Re: Re: fuel tank piping (pat ladd)
6. 07:54 AM - Re: Kokopelli (George Bass)
7. 08:34 AM - Oh Dear. (pat ladd)
8. 08:51 AM - Re: Oh Dear. (David Key)
9. 09:17 AM - Re: Oh Dear. (George Myers)
10. 09:32 AM - Re: Oh Dear. (robert bean)
11. 10:21 AM - Re: Oh Dear. (Richard Pike)
12. 10:51 AM - Re: Oh Dear. (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
13. 12:21 PM - [ Edward Steuber ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
14. 12:52 PM - Re: [ Edward Steuber ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (robert bean)
15. 12:52 PM - Re: [ Edward Steuber ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Richard Pike)
16. 02:12 PM - Re: Oh Dear. (Eugene Zimmerman)
17. 03:17 PM - Re: [ Edward Steuber ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Craig Nelson)
18. 03:17 PM - Re: Oh Dear. (Craig Nelson)
19. 05:22 PM - Re: Oh Dear. (Mike Schnabel)
20. 05:46 PM - Where is Hauck? (Mike Schnabel)
21. 06:02 PM - Re: Oh Dear. ()
22. 06:03 PM - Re: Oh Dear. (Terry)
23. 06:32 PM - Re: [ Edward Steuber ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Beauford)
24. 06:49 PM - Re: Oh Dear. (Beauford)
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26. 07:57 PM - Early projects (Craig Nelson)
27. 08:21 PM - Re: Early projects (Richard Pike)
28. 08:41 PM - Re: Early projects (Craig Nelson)
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Morning Gang:
Sitting hear drinking my coffee, trying to think if I am forgetting
anything important that I need to try and stuff into my mkIII before I
waddle out of my cow pasture, turn north, and head for OSH.
Will be having coffee with Mike Schnabel this morning in Manchester,
TN, is the thunder bumpers do not get me.
Thunderstorms from here to north of Bowling Green, KY. Then should be
good weather to OSH. Will have to spend the night on the road
somewhere, Danville or Joliet, IL. Arrive OSH around noon tomorrow.
Hard not to get in the rush mode, trying to get there quickly. Got to
get settled back, take it easy, and enjoy my flight. Got not
deadlines to meet.
Attached is a GIF of two Kokopelli's. Thought these would make nice
little mascots for the Monument Valley crew of Kolbers.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
Fly safe, John.
Hope I get to meet you. We will be up there on Wednesday.
Todd
On 7/22/06 7:37 AM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> Morning Gang:
>
> Sitting hear drinking my coffee, trying to think if I am forgetting
> anything important that I need to try and stuff into my mkIII before I
> waddle out of my cow pasture, turn north, and head for OSH.
>
> Will be having coffee with Mike Schnabel this morning in Manchester,
> TN, is the thunder bumpers do not get me.
>
> Thunderstorms from here to north of Bowling Green, KY. Then should be
> good weather to OSH. Will have to spend the night on the road
> somewhere, Danville or Joliet, IL. Arrive OSH around noon tomorrow.
>
> Hard not to get in the rush mode, trying to get there quickly. Got to
> get settled back, take it easy, and enjoy my flight. Got not
> deadlines to meet.
>
> Attached is a GIF of two Kokopelli's. Thought these would make nice
> little mascots for the Monument Valley crew of Kolbers.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
> mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Hot morning in Arizona |
Pat,
Actually, the Iditarod has been won exactly once by a woman, in 1985 by
Libby Riddles, who I had the pleasure of meeting a couple weeks ago.
Thom Riddle - not Riddles, not related
Buffalo, NY
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Hi Craig,
you know of course that a woman has won the Iditarod evry year
since.......
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Hot morning in Arizona |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
SORRRRRY! I Screwed UP big Time about the Iditarod being won only once
by a woman. My BAD, sorry to Susan Butcher who has won it multiple
times and any other ladies that have done so. Libby RIddles was merely
the first to do so in 1985.
Thom (eating crow)
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| Subject: | Re: fuel tank piping |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
I also have a 6 gal. bladder tank for a total of 16 gals. It has its own
fuel pump and pumps into the fuel line that comes out of the tanks going to
the engine.
Hi,
cna you post more details please.Where is the bladder tank?
Cheers
Pat
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I realize that the Kokopelli's are very 'cute'
little fella's and that they COULD represent a
thought that COULD be connected to the areas
around the Monument Valley and at a stretch,
MIGHT be associated with the crew (although
not me, yet) that's able to congregate there,
BUT, it has always tickled me that many folks
who use, or wear clothing or jewelry depicting
these characters don't seem to realize a
primary belief regarding their purpose.
Picture that 75 or 80 year old grandma walking
along, holding the hand of her 8, or 10 yr old
granddaughter, or 5-6 yr old great-granddaughter,
& they're both wearing a lovely MATCHING pair
of t-shirts, with one of the Kokopelli images on
each shirt. And maybe a matching necklace, too.
THEY ARE EXPECTED TO PROMOTE FERTILITY.!
Now if they could have anthing to do with the
reproduction of aircraft, I could certainly see
the connection.
But, for the use, or representation, of this
group of persons (most of whom are past the
time in our lives that we want to raise 1 more
rugrat) it would seem a bit out of character,
or, at least, inappropriate for the subject at hand.
Just a little rant on an insignificant subject.
George Bass
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Hi all,
Sad story. I have not flown the Xtra for a couple of weeks as I could
not face rig, fly, de-rig just for an evening flight and the old
Challenger is still occupying my hangar.
Last night the forecast was good for the next 3 or 4 days so I decided
to rig, fly, and leave her rigged on tie downs. Wendy and I rigged
without too much trouble and I decided to taxi from the farm yard out to
my hangar on the strip for some fuel I had stored there.
The weather has been very hot and humid for a week or more so as I was
preparing to start the engine I was thinking about the need to use choke
. Luckily I strapped in The engine didn`t fire. Cut mags. Set choke.
Push starter. No fire. Cut mags, close choke, mags. ON, push starter. No
luck. Reach around to set choke to half. What I hadn`t realised was that
every time I half turned in my seat to alter the choke my credit cards
etc in my left pocket gently nudged the throttle a bit farther open.
Mags on. choke set, Push starter and as you have guessed by now she
fired. Wow! The throttle must have been almost fully open and the Extra
shot off across the yard like a startled rabbit.
Before I realised what had happened let alone done anything about it,
the port wing just outboard of the strut hit a vertical RSJ
( I Beam?) which formed the corner of a barn and the Xtra swung sharply
round pushing a long dent in the side of a parked car with the nose of
the pod.
If I had not bothered to strap in I would have been thrown around quite
severely. I cut the mags and the prop didn`t impact anything so the
engine is probably OK but the leading edge of the wing was pushed back
in a big gash 2 or 3 feet long and maybe a foot deep, cracking up all
the ribs in that vicinity and bending the aileron tube. The backward
force on the wing has bent one of the diagonals in the cage slightly so
that will need a careful check along with the wing root fastenings.
The ironic thing is that today it has poured with rain. If the
forecaster had suggested that I would not have rigged. Also I have sold
the Challenger. If that had happened 24 hours before, the Kolb would
have been in the hangar ready to go and my mishandling of the throttle
would have resulted in nothing worse than a dash across the field with
no obstacle in the way.
No flying for Pat in the near future.
One thing. I am very impressed by the STOL characteristics of the Xtra.
Wendy reckoned that I was airborne when I hit the barn and it could not
have been more than 40 yards and certainly my backside told me that I
had left the bumpy ground.
All caused by my stupidity.
My lovely newly painted, shiny new plane. Hells Bloody Bells.
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
that's a sad story, good luck getting it back into action.
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>From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Oh Dear.
>Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:32:30 +0100
>
>Hi all,
>
>Sad story. I have not flown the Xtra for a couple of weeks as I could not
>face rig, fly, de-rig just for an evening flight and the old Challenger is
>still occupying my hangar.
>Last night the forecast was good for the next 3 or 4 days so I decided to
>rig, fly, and leave her rigged on tie downs. Wendy and I rigged without
>too much trouble and I decided to taxi from the farm yard out to my hangar
>on the strip for some fuel I had stored there.
>
>The weather has been very hot and humid for a week or more so as I was
>preparing to start the engine I was thinking about the need to use choke .
>Luckily I strapped in The engine didn`t fire. Cut mags. Set choke. Push
>starter. No fire. Cut mags, close choke, mags. ON, push starter. No luck.
>Reach around to set choke to half. What I hadn`t realised was that every
>time I half turned in my seat to alter the choke my credit cards etc in my
>left pocket gently nudged the throttle a bit farther open. Mags on. choke
>set, Push starter and as you have guessed by now she fired. Wow! The
>throttle must have been almost fully open and the Extra shot off across the
>yard like a startled rabbit.
>
>Before I realised what had happened let alone done anything about it, the
>port wing just outboard of the strut hit a vertical RSJ
> ( I Beam?) which formed the corner of a barn and the Xtra swung sharply
>round pushing a long dent in the side of a parked car with the nose of the
>pod.
>
>If I had not bothered to strap in I would have been thrown around quite
>severely. I cut the mags and the prop didn`t impact anything so the engine
>is probably OK but the leading edge of the wing was pushed back in a big
>gash 2 or 3 feet long and maybe a foot deep, cracking up all the ribs in
>that vicinity and bending the aileron tube. The backward force on the wing
>has bent one of the diagonals in the cage slightly so that will need a
>careful check along with the wing root fastenings.
>
>The ironic thing is that today it has poured with rain. If the forecaster
>had suggested that I would not have rigged. Also I have sold the
>Challenger. If that had happened 24 hours before, the Kolb would have been
>in the hangar ready to go and my mishandling of the throttle would have
>resulted in nothing worse than a dash across the field with no obstacle in
>the way.
>
>No flying for Pat in the near future.
>
>One thing. I am very impressed by the STOL characteristics of the Xtra.
>Wendy reckoned that I was airborne when I hit the barn and it could not
>have been more than 40 yards and certainly my backside told me that I had
>left the bumpy ground.
>
>All caused by my stupidity.
>
>My lovely newly painted, shiny new plane. Hells Bloody Bells.
>
>Pat
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Did it go something like this?
OK here we go.....come on......come on.........you stupid bugger.......
whaaaa.......whoaaaaaa...a...aaaaaa....AAAAAAAAAAAA...uh-oh
ooooooooooooshucks....OOF!......DARN......DARN DARN DARN! DARNIT .....
(while jumping up & down) PHOOEY, PHOOEY, PHOOEY!!! HECK, PHOOEY, SHUCKS
,
DARN, DARNIT, DAGNABIT, DOGGONEIT!! FIDDLESTICKS.........
Yeah, been there, done that & can sympathize.
George
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>Sad story. I have not flown the Xtra for a couple of weeks as I could no
t
face rig, fly,
>My lovely newly painted, shiny new plane. Hells Bloody Bells.
at
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Pat, incredible sequence of events. I'm sure you have replayed it in
your mind several times since. Most of us have had similar experiences
in the past with various luck in the outcome.
Fixing the wing will keep you out of trouble this winter.
I remember having the triple carb throttle linkage get stuck full open
on
an old hot rod many years ago. It was a LONG 30 seconds or so before
I turned off the ignition. Going a touch faster than a Kolb at the
time.
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On 22, Jul 2006, at 11:32 AM, pat ladd wrote:
> Hi all,
> -
> Sad story. I have not flown the Xtra for a couple of weeks as I could
> not face rig, fly, de-rig just for an evening flight and the old
> Challenger is still occupying my hangar.
> Last night the forecast was good for the next 3 or 4 days so I decided
> to rig, fly, and leave her rigged on tie downs.- Wendy and I rigged
> without too much trouble and I decided to taxi from the farm yard out
> to my hangar on the strip for some fuel I had stored there.
> -
> The weather has been very hot and humid for a week or more so as I was
> preparing to start the engine I was thinking about the need-to use
> choke-. Luckily I strapped in-- The engine didn`t fire. Cut
mags. Set
> choke. Push starter. No fire. Cut mags, close choke, mags. ON, push
> starter. No luck. Reach around to set choke to half. What I hadn`t
> realised was that every time I half turned in my seat to alter the
> choke my credit cards etc in my left pocket gently nudged the throttle
> a bit farther open. Mags on. choke set, Push starter and as you have
> guessed by now she fired. Wow! The throttle must have been almost
> fully open and the Extra shot off across the yard like a startled
> rabbit.
> -
> Before I realised what had happened let alone done anything about it,
> the port wing just outboard of the strut hit a vertical RSJ-
> -( I Beam?) which formed the corner of a barn and the Xtra swung
> sharply round pushing a long dent in the side of a parked car with the
> nose of the pod.
> -
> If I had not bothered to strap in I would have been thrown around
> quite severely. I cut the mags and the prop didn`t impact anything so
> the engine is probably OK but the leading edge of the wing was pushed
> back in a big gash 2 or 3 feet long and maybe a foot deep, cracking up
> all the ribs in that vicinity and bending the aileron tube. The
> backward force on the wing has bent one of the diagonals in the cage
> slightly so that will need a careful check along with the wing root
> fastenings.
> -
> The ironic thing is that today it has poured with rain. If the
> forecaster had suggested that I would not have rigged. Also I have
> sold the Challenger. If that had happened 24 hours before, the Kolb
> would have been in the hangar ready to go and my mishandling of the
> throttle would have resulted in nothing worse than a dash across the
> field with no obstacle in the way.
> -
> No flying for Pat in the near future.
> -
> One thing. I am very impressed by the STOL characteristics of the
> Xtra. Wendy reckoned that I was airborne when I hit the barn and it
> could not have been more than 40 yards and certainly my backside told
> me that I had left the bumpy ground.
> -
> All caused by my stupidity.
> -
> My lovely newly painted, shiny new plane. Hells Bloody Bells.
> -
> Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
What a bummer, you have our sympathies. But at least it seems someone
was looking out for you, since you didn't mention the airplane having
any blood on it -
(that always makes a bad situation worse.)
Is the choke on the Xtra located on the fuselage middle vertical tube
above shoulder height?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
pat ladd wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Sad story. <snip>
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No flying for Pat in the near future.
My lovely newly painted, shiny new plane. Hells Bloody Bells.
Pat
Dear Pat,
Just don't know what to say except so sorry to hear about your
accident. On the other hand, thank God you'd fastened the belts.
.....and as I read the "if only's" in your report, I think of my many
"if only's" and the reports of many other experienced pilots who have
had these types of "happenings." Yes, we all get pissed and beat
ourselves up with "if only's" and "stupidity" kind of thinking. But
keep in mind that hindsight is 20 - 20 and these things do happen.
....and you're right, No flying for Pat in the NEAR future - but you
will be flying again, just maybe not in the near part of future.
Good luck my friend.
AzDave
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Looking good Ed. East of Ed's place lurk as bad a menace. CABBAGE
fields!
South is onion muckland. Looking squishy lately.
Looking for light breezes tomorrow morning.
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On Jul 22, 2006, at 11:32 AM, pat ladd wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Sad story.
Oh Pat,
I feel the pain of your regret!
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Ed I think the paint scheme is great looks like a vicious shark mouth is
taking the high road (sky)
Uncle Craig
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Pat
I can sympathize with you and feel all your grief and pain after all
that work, it goes incredibly wrong in a few short minutes. Took me over
a year to get started fixing my plane after my encounter of dumb luck.
It was hard to look at her. But in the end all is well. Hope you get
yours fixed right away
Uncle craig
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pat ladd
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:33 AM
Hi all,
Sad story. I have not flown the Xtra for a couple of weeks as I could
not face rig, fly, de-rig just for an evening flight and the old
Challenger is still occupying my hangar.
All caused by my stupidity.
My lovely newly painted, shiny new plane. Hells Bloody Bells.
Pat
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Pat,
Sorry to hear about your incident. We all can have mechanical things happen without
our knowledge and the only difference between good or bad is the time we
have to react. You just did not have the time to react.
But your sad story really does have a bright message. If we do the things we
have been taught to do to be safe, we more times than not will survive the unexpected.
You may never have had a reason to choose to strap in that cockpit just
to taxi out, but you were taught that it was for your safety so you did. And
that discipline to follow safety instructions allowed you to be here explaining
what happened. Rather than someone else writing to inform us of your injuries
(or worse).
Now all the mushy stuff is over, so get that baby back flying again!
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
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pat ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Sad story. I have not flown the Xtra for a couple of weeks as I could not face
rig, fly, de-rig just for an evening flight and the old Challenger is still
occupying my hangar.
Last night the forecast was good for the next 3 or 4 days so I decided to rig,
fly, and leave her rigged on tie downs. Wendy and I rigged without too much
trouble and I decided to taxi from the farm yard out to my hangar on the strip
for some fuel I had stored there.
The weather has been very hot and humid for a week or more so as I was preparing
to start the engine I was thinking about the need to use choke . Luckily I
strapped in The engine didn`t fire. Cut mags. Set choke. Push starter. No fire.
Cut mags, close choke, mags. ON, push starter. No luck. Reach around to set
choke to half. What I hadn`t realised was that every time I half turned in
my seat to alter the choke my credit cards etc in my left pocket gently nudged
the throttle a bit farther open. Mags on. choke set, Push starter and as you
have guessed by now she fired. Wow! The throttle must have been almost fully open
and the Extra shot off across the yard like a startled rabbit.
Before I realised what had happened let alone done anything about it, the port
wing just outboard of the strut hit a vertical RSJ
( I Beam?) which formed the corner of a barn and the Xtra swung sharply round
pushing a long dent in the side of a parked car with the nose of the pod.
If I had not bothered to strap in I would have been thrown around quite severely.
I cut the mags and the prop didn`t impact anything so the engine is probably
OK but the leading edge of the wing was pushed back in a big gash 2 or 3 feet
long and maybe a foot deep, cracking up all the ribs in that vicinity and
bending the aileron tube. The backward force on the wing has bent one of the diagonals
in the cage slightly so that will need a careful check along with the
wing root fastenings.
The ironic thing is that today it has poured with rain. If the forecaster had
suggested that I would not have rigged. Also I have sold the Challenger. If that
had happened 24 hours before, the Kolb would have been in the hangar ready
to go and my mishandling of the throttle would have resulted in nothing worse
than a dash across the field with no obstacle in the way.
No flying for Pat in the near future.
One thing. I am very impressed by the STOL characteristics of the Xtra. Wendy
reckoned that I was airborne when I hit the barn and it could not have been more
than 40 yards and certainly my backside told me that I had left the bumpy
ground.
All caused by my stupidity.
My lovely newly painted, shiny new plane. Hells Bloody Bells.
Pat
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Hello group,
For those that are wondering about John H., well he had a late start this morning
(good thing too, the weather stunk), but after leaving his cow pasture he
still ended up getting socked in north Alabama for a few hours anyway. He finally
did get going once again, and made it up to my humble strip of grass in Middle
TN.
For me it was a huge thrill to see Miss "P"fer circle the property and make the
first official landing here (and take off too!). John had some nice comments,
but I will leave that for him to expound. But I can say he greased her in like
he had landed here many times before! I have attached a picture of him about
to depart, and I got a neat video of his departure but cant seem to get my
video program to work so well (drats)!
Anyway, just an update on the Hauck man, he gave my neighbors a thrill, they
knew I would be flying from the strip but something about that first plane to
circle, land and takeoff is something memorable!
John when you read this, Thanks again for the visit, and come back any time!
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
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I had an incident similar to poor Pat's, though much less intense, just
about a week ago. Fortunately there was no damage to me, my plane, or
anyone or anything else. As I was getting out, the edge of my pants
pocket caught the T-handle to my BRS 'chute. The handle popped out of
the little cylinder it normally sits in but didn't pull strongly enough
or far enough to deploy it. Whew! As they say, lesson learned.
Good luck and good speed with your repairs, Pat!
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
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pat ladd wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Sad story. I have not flown the Xtra for a couple of weeks as I could
> not face rig, fly, de-rig just for an evening flight and the old
> Challenger is still occupying my hangar.
Pat,
Oh the pain of it all !!!!!!!!!! Been there and it isn't a good feeling.
Give yourself some time and then get back at it. The time is for
beating yourself up which we all tend to do after something like this!
You "will" fly it again,
Terry - FireFly #95
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| Subject: | Re: [ Edward Steuber ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Now THAT is really slick, Brother Steuber... Great job...!
Beauford
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Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:19 PM
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Pat:
Sorry to hear about it... but,to echo some of the other Listers, being
unhappy and disgusted sure beats the hell out of being chewed up by that
big fan immediately to your rear...or leaving portions of your anatomy
smeared on that automobile it dented... Good on 'ya for having the
discipline to buckle up...
Once she's back on line and you're in the air again, this will fade to a
fine tale to be recounted on winter evenings down at your favorite
watering hole...you'll get many a mile out of it... Most of us who
have been fooling around with mechanical thingys for a while have at
least one of these episodes under our belt... Good luck with the
repairs.
Are the local bureaucrats likely to give you any flak over this?
Beauford
FF #076
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----- Original Message -----
From: pat ladd
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Oh Dear.
Hi all,
Sad story. I have not flown the Xtra for a couple of weeks as I could
not face rig, fly, de-rig just for an evening flight and the old
Challenger is still occupying my hangar.
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| Subject: | Re: [ Edward Steuber ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
Hey Ed,
Congratulations!
You have one seriously mean looking Kolb Ultrastar!
Fly with pizzazz !
Gene
On Jul 22, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Email List Photo Shares wrote:
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> 07.22.2006/index.html
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There has been a lot of talk about first flights--- what about early
projects? I just got a new scanner today and have been messing around
with it and thought you all might like to see some old projects. I know
some of you guys had Hummers like Richard Pike. I built 3 hummers in 78
to 80 I flew Clouse Hills original hummer and talked to Dom Williams to
day he still has it. Back then I put a gear reduction a friend and I
made with a 3 to 1 reduction turning a 54' prop. We had a Polaris engine
on the second hummer and it flew like a dream. The 3rd hummer I built I
got ailerons from a drifter made a mixer to keep the v tail. Here is a
picture of my 4th airplane project, it has a welded frame the back is
cable braced the turtle deck and mid top is mahogany the engine cowling
is engine turned aluminum, the fuse is covered with seconite ( can't
remember how to spell it) it had an industrial Koler 65HP water cooled
engine with one of the aforementioned reduction units. Instead of
ailerons I used wing warping, man lots of stick pressure! the prop in
the picture is an aqua prop the wheel hubs were from a moped with 24in
bicycle rims laced to them. I engineered built and test flew this
project there were no plans or kit.
Uncle craig
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| Subject: | Re: Early projects |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Very neat little bird, your flair for sharp designs was showing up even
then. Is that a Hummer wing structure and kingpost? My Hummer had
spoilers, which were fine for flying, but were no help landing in a
crosswind. I had a chance to fly my old Hummer several years ago, and
was amazed at how far we have come. At one time I thought it was great,
and compared to what was around at the time, it was fairly good. Which
isn't saying much, compared to the control authority of a Kolb.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Craig Nelson wrote:
>
> There has been a lot of talk about first flights--- what about early
> projects? I just got a new scanner today and have been messing around
> with it and thought you all might like to see some old projects. I
> know some of you guys had Hummers like Richard Pike. I built 3 hummers
> in 78 to 80 I flew Clouse Hills original hummer and talked to Dom
> Williams to day he still has it. Back then I put a gear reduction a
> friend and I made with a 3 to 1 reduction turning a 54 prop. We had a
> Polaris engine on the second hummer and it flew like a dream. The 3^rd
> hummer I built I got ailerons from a drifter made a mixer to keep the
> v tail. Here is a picture of my 4^th airplane project, it has a welded
> frame the back is cable braced the turtle deck and mid top is mahogany
> the engine cowling is engine turned aluminum, the fuse is covered with
> seconite ( cant remember how to spell it) it had an industrial Koler
> 65HP water cooled engine with one of the aforementioned reduction
> units. Instead of ailerons I used wing warping, man lots of stick
> pressure! the prop in the picture is an aqua prop the wheel hubs were
> from a moped with 24in bicycle rims laced to them. I engineered built
> and test flew this project there were no plans or kit.
>
> Uncle craig
>
> Do not archive
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com>
Yes it was a hummer wing with different tips the first time I flew it
there was about a 20 knot cross wind the warping worked well. The old
wing was only good for about 65 mph she made about as much drag as lift
uncle craig
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-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:20 PM
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Very neat little bird, your flair for sharp designs was showing up even
then. Is that a Hummer wing structure and kingpost? My Hummer had
spoilers, which were fine for flying, but were no help landing in a
crosswind. I had a chance to fly my old Hummer several years ago, and
was amazed at how far we have come. At one time I thought it was great,
and compared to what was around at the time, it was fairly good. Which
isn't saying much, compared to the control authority of a Kolb.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Craig Nelson wrote:
>
> There has been a lot of talk about first flights--- what about early
> projects? I just got a new scanner today and have been messing around
> with it and thought you all might like to see some old projects. I
> know some of you guys had Hummers like Richard Pike. I built 3 hummers
> in 78 to 80 I flew Clouse Hills original hummer and talked to Dom
> Williams to day he still has it. Back then I put a gear reduction a
> friend and I made with a 3 to 1 reduction turning a 54' prop. We had a
> Polaris engine on the second hummer and it flew like a dream. The 3^rd
> hummer I built I got ailerons from a drifter made a mixer to keep the
> v tail. Here is a picture of my 4^th airplane project, it has a welded
> frame the back is cable braced the turtle deck and mid top is mahogany
> the engine cowling is engine turned aluminum, the fuse is covered with
> seconite ( can't remember how to spell it) it had an industrial Koler
> 65HP water cooled engine with one of the aforementioned reduction
> units. Instead of ailerons I used wing warping, man lots of stick
> pressure! the prop in the picture is an aqua prop the wheel hubs were
> from a moped with 24in bicycle rims laced to them. I engineered built
> and test flew this project there were no plans or kit.
>
> Uncle craig
>
> Do not archive
>
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