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1. 01:06 AM - Re: Early projects (KolbTwinstar@AOL.COM)
2. 01:45 AM - Re: Oh Dear. (pat ladd)
3. 10:51 AM - Re: Firefly W/ bigger tank (Don G)
4. 11:03 AM - Cross Country Flying/ My Story (Mike Pierzina)
5. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: Firefly W/ bigger tank (Arksey@aol.com)
6. 11:40 AM - [ Arty Trost ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
7. 12:08 PM - Re: [ Arty Trost ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Larry Cottrell)
8. 12:11 PM - Re: [ Arty Trost ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Arksey@aol.com)
9. 12:18 PM - Re: [ Arty Trost ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Mike Schnabel)
10. 12:34 PM - Re: Cross Country Flying/ My Story (Chuck)
11. 01:33 PM - Re: Pat Ladd's OH DEAR! event & the "riggin" factor... (Jbowaaf@wmconnect.com)
12. 02:45 PM - Re: Cross Country Flying/ My Story (planecrazzzy)
13. 03:55 PM - Re: [ Arty Trost ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (George E. Thompson)
14. 04:40 PM - Re: Oh Dear. (Larry Bourne)
15. 05:26 PM - Re: Cross Country Flying/ My Story (Larry Bourne)
16. 06:05 PM - Re: Oh Dear. (pat ladd)
17. 06:16 PM - Ms. Dixie (Paul Petty)
18. 06:23 PM - Re: Cross Country Flying/ My Story (planecrazzzy)
19. 06:29 PM - Re: Ms. Dixie (planecrazzzy)
20. 07:01 PM - Re: Oh Dear. (Mike Schnabel)
21. 07:14 PM - Re: Re: Pat Ladd's OH DEAR! event & the "riggin" factor... (Mike Schnabel)
22. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: Cross Country Flying/ My Story (Chuck Stonex)
23. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: Pat Ladd's OH DEAR! event & the "riggin" factor.. (David Lehman)
24. 07:58 PM - Sorry, Folks. (Larry Bourne)
25. 08:05 PM - Re: [ Arty Trost ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Craig Nelson)
26. 08:10 PM - Re: Ms. Dixie (Craig Nelson)
27. 09:02 PM - Re: Oh Dear. (pat ladd)
28. 09:31 PM - Re: Re: Pat Ladd's OH DEAR! event & the "riggin" factor... (Richard Pike)
29. 09:56 PM - Re: Firefly W/ bigger tank (DAquaNut@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Early projects |
KolbTwinstar for Sale with a 24ft enclosed trailer and extra 503 Rotax
engine.
FAA registed N- number.
Tracy
Briggs
Phone Number 314-258-1061
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Is the choke on the Xtra located on the fuselage middle vertical tube
above shoulder height?>>
Yep, and as I am holding the stick back with my right hand I reached across
with my left to reach the choke. i am pretty sure that it was that twisting
motion that nudged the throttle forward..
Now it will be left hand on throttle, stick in the crook of my arm somehow
and press the starter with my big toe.
Thanks everyone for your sympathy. It really helps
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly W/ bigger tank |
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Ed, I am flying with 10 gallons, plus a fiberglass seat with 2 one inch layers
of heavy memory foam on the bottom side..an aluminum pan underneath the seat..lessee...rear
ducktail of aluminum...rear enclosure with added chromemoly tubing
welded in for support and a rear cargo areawith a door. Loaded up with a garmin
and radio...a couple of bottles of oil and 10 gallons..tie downs and misc
other junk... oh yea...big tires and hydraulic brakesand likely almost a gallon
more paint on the craft than necessary. TOW is regularly 550 lbs...it does
fly a tad sluggish in this mode...takeoffs are a tad longer and faster and lands
a little faster than normal..but top speed and handeling are not affected.
Really the only way a fella notices is when one has expierienced a light firefly!!anybody
else would not use these terms!!
...and anyone watching me take off when heavy and sluggish....still wonders at
the rate of climb and the angle on climbout.
Really it aint bad...and before I added all this stuff...when it was basically
stock..I was admonished more than once from wanna-be safety police at fly-ins
for "flying dangerously at high angle of climb upon takeoff"...which I am sure
all 40 hp FireFly pilots understand when simply rotateing at full throttle and
holding about 55 mph on climb...you have to have such a steep climb to hold
it down to 55 that people just dont believe it!
As far as just adding 10 gallons of fuel...it will handle it fine.
Look at my website for pics on gas tank installation and mods.
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| Subject: | Cross Country Flying/ My Story |
Here's a LINK to my Cross Country Flight , it's to a "Tailwind Fly-in" , I'm doing
a little research on my
next building project....( after I sell my Powered Parachute - $7,000 / REDUCED
)
Anyway, it's a little long winded.... But there's Pictures...
http://wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=3637#3637
Gotta Fly...
Mike & Jaz in MN / N381PM
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly W/ bigger tank |
Don G
your web site has lots of good information. You did a good job. thanks
Jim Swan Mi
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nice nose job.
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Arty... that is one cool paint job!
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Hey Mike ... nice story and nice pics .... thanks for sharing.
Reverend Chuck
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From: Mike Pierzina
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:02 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Cross Country Flying/ My Story
Here's a LINK to my Cross Country Flight , it's to a "Tailwind Fly-in"
, I'm doing a little research on my
next building project....( after I sell my Powered Parachute - $7,000
/ REDUCED )
Anyway, it's a little long winded.... But there's Pictures...
http://wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=3637#3637
Gotta Fly...
Mike & Jaz in MN /
N381PM
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way down...
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| Subject: | re: Pat Ladd's OH DEAR! event & the "riggin" factor... |
pat ladd.... so glad u & urs are all ok except for the inevitably dampened
spirits. hope u find the means to revive urself quickly & get the thing flying
again. as u helplessly re-visit the sequence of events, have u considered the
factor that strikes me as the most salient & to me the most surprising, namely
the "rigging issue". i have followed the kolbs at sun n fun for many yrs as
they outfly every other bird there by many times over, but i've never actually
watched the entire "rigging & derigging" process,(assumig that's mother
tongue for unfolding & folding the wing primarily). based mostly on the brochures
&
sales talk at the factory, i had assumed all along it was a very easy, &
quick process (maybe 5 minutes with 2 people & up to 10 alone). but when i
realized that it was enough of an effort even for an aviator of ur experience,
that it actually influenced u to point that it seems to be me to be the key cause
of the event. i once heard someone who'd had much experience with the main
wing folders (kolb, avid, kitfox) guesstimate that 90% of the owners of these
planes never "derig/fold" their wings. that really surprised me cause i'd
assumed the folding wing was one of the main, if not the main, sellling point.
it
was certainly a key attraction for me. of course the strenght & integrity of
these kolbs become paramount after that & the fact that they have safely hauled
the likes of j hauck & j wmson all over this continent provides unimpeachable
confidence & solace for me, especially with the folding wing. though i
believe i've heard that neither john ever needs to or does fold his wing.
so i intended to propose this "folding" issue to the respective lists for
these planes as one of the informal "polls" we see from time to time(i.e. the
recent "first flight" poll which was such fun). so pat, as u reprocess ur
"event", any thgts on the role of "riggin/deriggin" . u astutely noted several
other big "what ifs" , like weather, sellling the challenger; so if the kolb were
really so quick n easy to rig, would u have avoided this unhappy "event"? i
for one would appreciate ur retrospective on this particular "what if".
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I don't get it...? you saw the story, but I don't see it posted ???
If anyone would like to see it...Here's the address :
http://wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3202
Maybe the other message is still on it's way....I posted it a couple of hours
ago....I wonder if I forgot to put a STAMP on it...He he he
Gotta Fly...
Mike & Jaz in MN / N381PM
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That's beautiful Arty, nearly as sexy as you.
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Hells Bloody Bells, indeed. What a crying shame, Pat. Sorry to hear
it. Lar. Do not Archive.
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From: pat ladd
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:32 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Oh Dear.
Hi all,
Sad story. I have not flown the Xtra for a couple of weeks as I could
not face rig, fly, de-rig just for an evening flight and the old
Challenger is still occupying my hangar.
Last night the forecast was good for the next 3 or 4 days so I decided
to rig, fly, and leave her rigged on tie downs. Wendy and I rigged
without too much trouble and I decided to taxi from the farm yard out to
my hangar on the strip for some fuel I had stored there.
The weather has been very hot and humid for a week or more so as I was
preparing to start the engine I was thinking about the need to use choke
. Luckily I strapped in The engine didn`t fire. Cut mags. Set choke.
Push starter. No fire. Cut mags, close choke, mags. ON, push starter. No
luck. Reach around to set choke to half. What I hadn`t realised was that
every time I half turned in my seat to alter the choke my credit cards
etc in my left pocket gently nudged the throttle a bit farther open.
Mags on. choke set, Push starter and as you have guessed by now she
fired. Wow! The throttle must have been almost fully open and the Extra
shot off across the yard like a startled rabbit.
Before I realised what had happened let alone done anything about it,
the port wing just outboard of the strut hit a vertical RSJ
( I Beam?) which formed the corner of a barn and the Xtra swung
sharply round pushing a long dent in the side of a parked car with the
nose of the pod.
If I had not bothered to strap in I would have been thrown around
quite severely. I cut the mags and the prop didn`t impact anything so
the engine is probably OK but the leading edge of the wing was pushed
back in a big gash 2 or 3 feet long and maybe a foot deep, cracking up
all the ribs in that vicinity and bending the aileron tube. The backward
force on the wing has bent one of the diagonals in the cage slightly so
that will need a careful check along with the wing root fastenings.
The ironic thing is that today it has poured with rain. If the
forecaster had suggested that I would not have rigged. Also I have sold
the Challenger. If that had happened 24 hours before, the Kolb would
have been in the hangar ready to go and my mishandling of the throttle
would have resulted in nothing worse than a dash across the field with
no obstacle in the way.
No flying for Pat in the near future.
One thing. I am very impressed by the STOL characteristics of the
Xtra. Wendy reckoned that I was airborne when I hit the barn and it
could not have been more than 40 yards and certainly my backside told me
that I had left the bumpy ground.
All caused by my stupidity.
My lovely newly painted, shiny new plane. Hells Bloody Bells.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country Flying/ My Story |
Helluva trip, Mike. Good on you. I just got home from vacation today,
and am scrambling to get sorted out, so's I can go to work tomorrow.
Had truck problems up in WA state, and spent several days longer than
planned. Lar.
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From: Mike Pierzina
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 11:02 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Cross Country Flying/ My Story
Here's a LINK to my Cross Country Flight , it's to a "Tailwind Fly-in"
, I'm doing a little research on my
next building project....( after I sell my Powered Parachute - $7,000
/ REDUCED )
Anyway, it's a little long winded.... But there's Pictures...
http://wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=3637#3637
Gotta Fly...
Mike & Jaz in MN /
N381PM
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Firestar I&II Forum
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kolb_Firestar/
My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the
way down...
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And that discipline to follow safety instructions allowed you to be
here>>
Hi Mike,
thanks for your comments. One other thing which has only occured to me
recently is that there was no reason for the engine to stop, the prop
didn`t impact anything so I must have switched the mags off. Can`t
remember doing it but there it is. Training is a wonderful thing.
Cheers
Pat
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Hey gang....Just a quick update...Covering wings on Kolbra012 having a blast!!!!!
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Hey Big Lar,
Glad to hear your still workin....I figured they'd keep YOU around....
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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Hey Paul,
It's looking good ! Are you in a different Hanger ???
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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Cheers back at you Pat!
Heck, I even gladly hold a toast for your textbook reaction to your unfortunate
situation!
What makes knowledge of training mean anything is that when your are in distress,
you act with instinct. You do not "think", your training takes over, and
it is all "instinct" or natural reaction. You most likely will not remember each
move, because it was all so natural thanks to your dedication to your training.
None of us were born with the instinct to shut down a roaring airplane engine,
that is something we were taught to do if the situation did not call for the
engine to be roaring. And if we were good students, when serious trouble arose,
we reacted accordingly, as you did.
THAT reaction that you displayed is a wonderful example of someone who took their
training serious. You are here today to expound on your experience ONLY because
you were a student who listened and learned. God knows we need more students
like you Pat!
The fact a few aluminum tubes were bent, some fabric torn and needs some mending
are minuscule compared to the fact you did the things we ALL should do to
preserve the most fragile element, our lives.
You may not feel much joy as you gather your thoughts on your Xtra's repairs,
but me for one, I rejoice that you are the one contemplating her repairs, and
no one else!
Training saved my behind one time as well, on my first real round the patch flight
in my new UL the engine died... but thanks to my training, I made a textbook
landing, less than 30 seconds after I had no intention to land. Never gave
it a thought, just followed my procedures as I was trained.
Lifting a toast for ya Pat... Cheers!
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
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pat ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
And that discipline to follow safety instructions allowed you to be
here>>
Hi Mike,
thanks for your comments. One other thing which has only occured to me recently
is that there was no reason for the engine to stop, the prop didn`t impact
anything so I must have switched the mags off. Can`t remember doing it but there
it is. Training is a wonderful thing.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: re: Pat Ladd's OH DEAR! event & the "riggin" factor... |
Going to need Ken F. here... another poll? Ken, are you up to the task? I actually
would be interested in this one too.
How many fliers never (OK, or rarely) fold their Kolb wings, (as my new friend
John H), and how many have to fold the wings every time (or most every time)
the plane is set up (like me for now)...
The way John H has is Mk3 set up, all bolted together does take some stress out
of the preflight process. Just as many points to check in the preflight, just
less doubt you left our a clip pin here or there...
OK, so it is a slow week with everyone gone to OSH, (where I should be right
now, but thats another story!)... is there a poll here do you think?
Just wondering....
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
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Jbowaaf@wmconnect.com wrote:
pat ladd.... so glad u & urs are all ok except for the inevitably dampened spirits.
hope u find the means to revive urself quickly & get the thing flying again.
as u helplessly re-visit the sequence of events, have u considered the
factor that strikes me as the most salient & to me the most surprising, namely
the "rigging issue". i have followed the kolbs at sun n fun for many yrs as
they outfly every other bird there by many times over, but i've never actually
watched the entire "rigging & derigging" process,(assumig that's mother tongue
for unfolding & folding the wing primarily). based mostly on the brochures
& sales talk at the factory, i had assumed all along it was a very easy, & quick
process (maybe 5 minutes with 2 people & up to 10 alone). but when i realized
that it was enough of an effort even for an aviator of ur experience, that
it actually influenced u to point that it seems to be me to be the key cause
of the event. i once heard someone who'd had much
experience with the main wing folders (kolb, avid, kitfox) guesstimate that 90%
of the owners of these planes never "derig/fold" their wings. that really surprised
me cause i'd assumed the folding wing was one of the main, if not the
main, sellling point. it was certainly a key attraction for me. of course the
strenght & integrity of these kolbs become paramount after that & the fact that
they have safely hauled the likes of j hauck & j wmson all over this continent
provides unimpeachable confidence & solace for me, especially with the folding
wing. though i believe i've heard that neither john ever needs to or does
fold his wing.
so i intended to propose this "folding" issue to the respective lists for these
planes as one of the informal "polls" we see from time to time(i.e. the recent
"first flight" poll which was such fun). so pat, as u reprocess ur "event",
any thgts on the role of "riggin/deriggin" . u astutely noted several other
big "what ifs" , like weather, sellling the challenger; so if the kolb were really
so quick n easy to rig, would u have avoided this unhappy "event"? i for
one would appreciate ur retrospective on this particular "what if".
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country Flying/ My Story |
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| Subject: | Re: re: Pat Ladd's OH DEAR! event & the "riggin" factor.. |
I fold and unfold everytime I fly (8.2 hours since July 3rd)...
David
On 7/23/06, Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Going to need Ken F. here... another poll? Ken, are you up to the task?
I
> actually would be interested in this one too.
>
> How many fliers never (OK, or rarely) fold their Kolb wings, (as my new
> friend John H), and how many have to fold the wings every time (or most
> every time) the plane is set up (like me for now)...
>
> The way John H has is Mk3 set up, all bolted together does take some
> stress out of the preflight process. Just as many points to check in the
> preflight, just less doubt you left our a clip pin here or there...
>
> OK, so it is a slow week with everyone gone to OSH, (where I should be
> right now, but that's another story!)... is there a poll here do you thin
k?
>
> Just wondering....
>
> Mike S
> Manchester TN
> Firestar 2 503
>
>
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>
> --
> "Attitude is everything ~ pick a good one"...
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Once again, I didn't look closely. Just assumed I was replying directly
to Mike. Sorry. Do not Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Bourne
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Cross Country Flying/ My Story
Helluva trip, Mike. Good on you. I just got home from vacation
today, and am scrambling to get sorted out, so's I can go to work
tomorrow. Had truck problems up in WA state, and spent several days
longer than planned. Lar.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Pierzina
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 11:02 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Cross Country Flying/ My Story
Here's a LINK to my Cross Country Flight , it's to a "Tailwind
Fly-in" , I'm doing a little research on my
next building project....( after I sell my Powered Parachute -
$7,000 / REDUCED )
Anyway, it's a little long winded.... But there's Pictures...
http://wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=3637#3637
Gotta Fly...
Mike & Jaz in MN
/ N381PM
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Firestar I&II Forum
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kolb_Firestar/
My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the
way down...
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| Subject: | [ Arty Trost ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com>
YOU MISSERABLE WANDERING WENCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That looks great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Can't believe you only get 5 mph out
of those flames. I doubled my speed with just the removal of an x. I
can't tell you how good it was to meet you in MV and see your plane. I
would like to get your friends name to have some gear legs made
Have fun
Uncle craig
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Paul that is pretty!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uncle craig
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Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 6:16 PM
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Hey gang....Just a quick update...Covering wings on Kolbra012 having a
blast!!!!!
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Kolbra #12
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Are the local bureaucrats likely to give you any flak over this?>>
Hi ,
Dont think so. Private strip and no grief from the farmer, who saw it
all. The plane was legal and insured. No one was hurt, luckily.
Scares me to think that Wendy or any of the other fliers, there are
around 10 on site, could have been standing in front instead of behind.
Their machines as well. The mind boggles.
The guy whose car I hit was away flying his plane and landed about 5
mins later to find his car dinged. He is happy if I cover the bodywork
repairs.
Been to the strip this morning. Drained the carb and the fuel tanks and
will remove battery tomorrow and make the first moves into laying up the
engine for a few months.
Thanks for your comments. Everyone on the list has been very supportive
and sympathetic. `There but for the grace of God...` etc
Isnt it silly that probably for about 10 cents a relay could be fitted
that cut out the starter if the throttle was advanced. In my car I
cannot move the gear lever out of `Park` unless the ignition is switched
on AND I have my foot on the brake.
A similar thing happened here a few years ago when `The Spirit of Free
Enterprise,` a cross Channel roll-on roll-off ferry came out the harbour
in France with the nose still raised. A flood of water came into the car
decks and she rolled over and sank with considerable loss of life. The
owners had been asked several times to fit a camera so that the bridge
could see that the bow was closed but a small relay would have done the
job infallibly and automatically.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: re: Pat Ladd's OH DEAR! event & the "riggin" factor... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
I never fold the wings on my MKIII, didn't want to fold the wings, and
did not install the wing pins or wing support cross tube near the
horizontal stab so I wouldn't be tempted to. Before I built my MKIII, we
had a fellow from Baltimore fly his Kolb down to a nearby airport for a
fly-in, and he lamented scraping the leading edges of his wings every
time he folded it and moved it, since they are so close to the ground. I
decided then and there that instead of folding the wings, I would remove
them and set them aside or where ever they needed to be. Haven't skinned
one yet, and it only requires removing one more bolt. But once a year
the wings get taken off and hung from ceiling racks while the airplane
goes into the garage for it's condition inspection, and it is so much
easier to work on with the wings totally off.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Mike Schnabel wrote:
> Going to need Ken F. here... another poll? Ken, are you up to the
> task? I actually would be interested in this one too.
> How many fliers never (OK, or rarely) fold their Kolb wings, (as my
> new friend John H), and how many have to fold the wings every time (or
> most every time) the plane is set up (like me for now)...
> The way John H has is Mk3 set up, all bolted together does take some
> stress out of the preflight process. Just as many points to check in
> the preflight, just less doubt you left our a clip pin here or there...
> OK, so it is a slow week with everyone gone to OSH, (where I should be
> right now, but thats another story!)... is there a poll here do you
> think?
> Just wondering....
> Mike S
> Manchester TN
> Firestar 2 503
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly W/ bigger tank |
Thanks to Don and Terry and others for the info on Firefly weight and fuel.
That info will help me in decision making
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