---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/27/06: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:07 AM - Re: Pat's parlance, "riggin & de--" (pat ladd) 2. 02:14 AM - Re: Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin & de--" (pat ladd) 3. 03:03 AM - Re: Spam (pat ladd) 4. 05:18 AM - Re: Spam (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 5. 06:05 AM - Re: Oshcosh rambling (APilot@webtv.net) 6. 09:34 AM - Re: Spam (Matt Dralle) 7. 09:34 AM - Re: Spam (Bob Noyer) 8. 07:33 PM - Re: Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin & de--" (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 9. 09:13 PM - Kolb to be burned at end of flying season (Bill Czygan) 10. 09:33 PM - Re: Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin (APilot@webtv.net) 11. 09:55 PM - Re: Kolb to be burned at end of flying season (APilot@webtv.net) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:07:54 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pat's parlance, "riggin & de--" Sometimes it's tough just "getting" to the plane on a hot day>> Hi Lar, |Not quite up to Palm Springs standards but we have had nearly a month with temps in the 90`s and most of us do not have air conditioning except in some cars. Getting to the field and just pulling the plane out and flying and pushing her back is not so bad but to have to rig etc and then take it all to pieces again before you can dash home, 15 minutes drive, for a cold beer rather takes the gloss off. Cheers Pat do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:14:42 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin & de--" Keep the ball-peen at the ready; you never know >> Hi Russ, over here, although I have not heard the phrase for years, thumping something into shape is called `using a Manchester spanner` Pat do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:03:48 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Spam --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" Am I the only one seeing spam on the list? (Barclay's Bank, etc.)>> Hi Richard, you are not alone. One this morning purporting to be from a bank in which my uncle, with the correct surname, had left several million pounds when he was killed in a plane crash etc... Pat do not archive -- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:32 AM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Spam I am getting the same here Richard so your not the only one Ellery in Maine do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:53 AM PST US From: APilot@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oshcosh rambling --> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net Good report. You are right on. I use to think that the J-3 Cubs were the ultimate flying experience. But, they do not compare with the Kolb experience. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:00 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Spam --> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle At 02:41 AM 7/27/2006 Thursday, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" > >Am I the only one seeing spam on the list? (Barclay's Bank, etc.)>> > >Hi Richard, >you are not alone. One this morning purporting to be from a bank in which my uncle, with the correct surname, had left several million pounds when he was killed in a plane crash etc... > >Pat > >do not archive Sorry about this leakage, guys. There was a rule in the Matronics spam filter that was inadvertently allowing these Barclay spams through. I've modified the rule and we should be free from that now. Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:05 AM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Spam --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer Get off! That was MY uncle, Pat regards, Bob N. http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ pee ess I have zero uncles do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:27 PM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin & de--" Pat Sorry to hear about your problems. Hopefully you will get it fixed quickly and back into the air well ahead of Big Lar. I must be missing something and I surely don't want add to your misery but why are your trying to hold on to everything on start up? What am I missing? The throttle should stay put unless you bump it (I don't need to tell you that) and if it doesn't you should tighten the friction adjustment. The stick doesn't need to be touched unless it is windy and if you start it facing into the wind you can still let go of the stick. I would assume you have one switch that controls the starter and mags, if not maybe you should? The choke can be reached if you practice without turning in your seat. I assume that with the Xtra you can reach the instrument panel while belted in. With my MKIIIc I have to reach my ignition/starter switch with a stick. Sorry I just don't understand and I don't know any thing about the Jabiru. Do not archive Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc Missing Oshkosh ----- Original Message ----- From: pat ladd To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin & de--" having to reach around for the choke sounds like a real bummer.>> Hi, I suppose I am just not in the groove enough yet to do it all automatically. I have a Jabiru fitted and the choke is just above my right shoulder. Mag switches and starter are in front but trying to hold the stick back, hold the throttle closed and still have ahand left to press the starter is tricky. It is no doubt all a matter of knack which becomes second nature after a doing it a few times. Maybe a bit more tension to hold the throttle closed would have sufficed. We learn. They say experience is the best teacher, but like all good teachers they are expensive Cheers Pat do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:21 PM PST US From: Bill Czygan Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb to be burned at end of flying season Listers, I have met a gentleman who has a Kolb, I believe it is a Firestar. He is a longtime UL pilot who is disgusted with SP, tired of flying alone as the only UL pilot in his area, and has another hobby to replace flying. He is wary of other peoples intentions and afraid of the liability of selling the aircraft. He has decided that burning the aircraft at the end of this flying season is the best course of action. Now, obviously I can not, and will not reveal his name to protect his anonymity, but I need well reasoned and heartfelt entreaties to help him find a better way out of his difficulties. I am not a Kolb owner but see this as a needless waste. Any suggestions? Bill Czygan --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:33:45 PM PST US From: APilot@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin --> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net Re: ignition location on Mark III Classic:. My panel is crowded so I put my ignition and prop pitch control under my right knee on the port side front of the seat panel. I made aluminum seats with cushions in lieu of the sling seats.....it added about 5 extra pounds. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:55:37 PM PST US From: APilot@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb to be burned at end of flying season --> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net Any lawyer can sue anybody for anything. I have sold quite a few ultralights, but never one that was flying. If it was flying, I tore it down to kit form and then had any buyer sign an agreement to the effect that the kit would be completed by the buyer and the buyer would assure the airworthiness of the aircraft before flight. Nothing is fool proof, but this the precaution that I have used and, of course, the agreement must be signed by a witnness with contact information as a part of the agreement. It is a shame to burn a airplane, but it looks like I am about to burn my Mitchell B-10 because I can find nobody who wants to complete it. My Kolb is flying so nice now that finishing that project would waste good flying time.