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1. 01:32 AM - Re: Kolb to be burned at end of flying season (pat ladd)
2. 01:40 AM - Re: Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin & de--" (pat ladd)
3. 02:19 AM - Re: Control positioning during ground handling (Dave Bigelow)
4. 03:00 AM - Re: Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin & de--" (Larry Bourne)
5. 03:25 AM - Re: Re: Control positioning during ground handling (Jack B. Hart)
6. 04:49 AM - Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin & de--" (Thom Riddle)
7. 04:50 AM - Re: Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin & de--" (russ kinne)
8. 05:01 AM - Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin & de--" (Thom Riddle)
9. 05:56 AM - Re: Control positioning during ground handling (jimhefner)
10. 06:16 AM - WATER TEMP. LOCATION (Rick Pearce)
11. 07:12 AM - Re: WATER TEMP. LOCATION (David Key)
12. 08:38 AM - Fuel Flow when running your Fuel Pump (David Key)
13. 08:44 AM - Fw: wiring (Rick Pearce)
14. 09:28 AM - Re: Fuel Flow when running your Fuel Pump (David Key)
15. 05:56 PM - vintage aircraft (robert bean)
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb to be burned at end of flying season |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
you could also "ghost ride" it, like when we'd jump off our bikes and see
how far they would go without a driver.>>
Hi, that brings back old memories. A friend and I used to take his old flat
tank Sunbeam motorbike, which was old even in those days and start the
engine and set it off down the runway of a disused airfield. It would slowly
turn and take off across the grass, wobbling and eventually fall over,
usually on the runway. Crunch. Straighten things out and do it again!
When I think what that bike would be worth today.......
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin |
& de--"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
OFF (Master Off, both mags off)
Left (master on, left mag on, right off)
Right (master on, right mag on, left off)>>
Hi Thom,
unless I am reading this wrongly you have to go through Master OFF position,
which kills the engine, when you check left mag and then right mag. That
can`t be right surely?
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Control positioning during ground handling |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
Wind forward of wingtips - stick into wind (tail dragger and tricycle Gear).
Wind aft of wingtips - forward stick away from wind (tail dragger).
aft stick away from wind (tricycle gear).
It's intuitive and obvious with the wind forward of the wing tips. Once it is
aft of the wingtips, you need to picture the control surface positions - you'll
see why then.
[/quote]I've been having a discussion off list with another Kolb flyer about control
positioning while taxing
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| Subject: | Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin |
& de--"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Hi Pat. In the Cessnas I fly, from all the way counter clockwise and
turning the key clockwise, it's Both Off, 1 off, the other off, both on,
start. Can't remember offhand if it's Off, Right Mag, Left Mag.....or Left
Mag, Right Mag. Lar. Do not Archive.
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Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 1:40 AM
"riggin & de--"
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
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> OFF (Master Off, both mags off)
> Left (master on, left mag on, right off)
> Right (master on, right mag on, left off)>>
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> Hi Thom,
> unless I am reading this wrongly you have to go through Master OFF
> position, which kills the engine, when you check left mag and then right
> mag. That can`t be right surely?
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
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> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Control positioning during ground handling |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
At 02:18 AM 7/29/06 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
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>Wind aft of wingtips - forward stick away from wind (tail dragger).
>
Dave,
This is not good advice for a Kolb. Propeller air flow does not influence
the horizontal stabilizer but the wind does. You want to hold the tail
down or stick back when taxiing downwind, especially in grass. With a
high thrust line, it is very easy to put the FireFly on its nose in grass
with the wind coming from behind.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin & de--" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Pat,
The only position in which the master is off is the first positiion (most counter
clockwise) which is also the only position in which the key can be inserted
or removed. And the rest of the list is in clockwise order from there, as Big
Lar said.
In my opinion its only redeeming quality is that it saves panel space and the GA
certified ones are not cheap. I like the "old world" way better, certainly not
for everything, but in this, for sure.
--------
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin |
& de--"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Pat
Switch positions were OFF-LEFT-RIGHT-BOTH. We start on LEFT (which
has a spark retard built in), go to BOTH when she starts; for a mag-
check switch from BOTH to LEFT, listen; then back to BOTH. Same for
right mag. No need to go thru OFF -- you'll blow jugs on a big engine
that way.
Should be no need to work 3-4 controls at once when starting!
Fair winds,
Russ
On Jul 29, 2006, at 4:40 AM, pat ladd wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> OFF (Master Off, both mags off)
> Left (master on, left mag on, right off)
> Right (master on, right mag on, left off)>>
>
> Hi Thom,
> unless I am reading this wrongly you have to go through Master OFF
> position, which kills the engine, when you check left mag and then
> right mag. That can`t be right surely?
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
> do not archive
>
>
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>
> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> wiki.matronics.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: kolB- "WING FOLDING" (or in pat's parlance, "riggin & de--" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Russ,
With separate switches, there is no need to "work 3-4 controls at once when starting!".
On our Allegro there are three switches. The keyed master/starter switch
has three positions as follows:
OFF (master off)
ON (master on)
Start (master on, engage starter) momentary contact
Next to it are two separate mag switches, each with an ON position (up) and OFF
position (down), which are guarded.
To start, flip on both mags (for Rotax 912) then start using the keyed master/start
switch, just like a Cessna.
Both systems work fine. They are just different, but not in function or ease of
use.
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Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: Control positioning during ground handling |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jimhefner" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
What Jack says might be ok for grass but I wouldn't advise stick back with wind
behind... elevators up... if it's blowing very hard. That could get you on your
nose on pavement, especially since Kolb's don't have a lot of weight on the
tail wheel with front gear set back more than normal. I always follow the normal
stick positioning in wind with my FF and have never had a problem, but I
haven't flown much from grass strips, so what Jack says might be valid for there,
I don't know.
--------
Jim Hefner
Tucson, AZ
Firefly #022 447, 2 blade IVO, BRS-750
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| Subject: | WATER TEMP. LOCATION |
Stupid question were in the cooling system do you take the temp.
reading for a EIS probe? After the radiator or before? I also saw that
some company was selling premade temp sensor couplings in a past issue
of Sport Pilot mag. I have not been able to find the add again. Any one
know what issue had the add?
Rick Pearce MK3 amphib
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| Subject: | WATER TEMP. LOCATION |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
The 912 has two nipples to attach the sensors to. If you got the same EIS as
I do then you'll notice they are much to big to fit on the nipples and have
the wrong type of attachment. No problem just unscrew the silver nut that
holds the nipples onto the engine and put them under there. And screw them
back on. If you need a photo let me know.
>From: "Rick Pearce" <rap@isp.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: WATER TEMP. LOCATION
>Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 08:14:43 -0500
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> Stupid question were in the cooling system do you take the temp.
>reading for a EIS probe? After the radiator or before? I also saw that
>some company was selling premade temp sensor couplings in a past issue of
>Sport Pilot mag. I have not been able to find the add again. Any one know
>what issue had the add?
> Rick Pearce MK3 amphib
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| Subject: | Fuel Flow when running your Fuel Pump |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
I just hooked up my fuel flow meter and the reading seems very high. I
thought I was carefull enough to pick the right pump so that I don't float
the carbs. Can someone tell me what fuel flow to expect when I am running my
fuel pump?
Thanks,
David
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I have attached a copy of my wiring diagram. I'm not sure about if I have
L,B & R on the rectifer wired right & if the hour meter is wired right.Rick
Pearce MK3 amplib
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| Subject: | Fuel Flow when running your Fuel Pump |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
Nevermind I think I got it. Let me explain. First it's a plane being built.
I thought it was a good idea to take the fuel line that goes to the engine
put a new filter on it and run it back into the tank. Then I can use the
fuel pump to pump a couple of gallons while I checked the EIS display,
measured the fuel and pumped all the junk out of the aluminum fuel lines
that may of gotten there durring construction. When the fuel flow meter read
20 gallons per hour and the measurement came up to that screwed me up.
Once I run the fuel line through the engine the carbs will meter the fuel
flow to a normal level.
>From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow when running your Fuel Pump
>Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 10:36:19 -0500
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
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>I just hooked up my fuel flow meter and the reading seems very high. I
>thought I was carefull enough to pick the right pump so that I don't float
>the carbs. Can someone tell me what fuel flow to expect when I am running
>my fuel pump?
>
>
>Thanks,
>David
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| Subject: | vintage aircraft |
For those of us who need to get a life:
This long-forgotten story needs to be retold, as this
little-appreciated airplane made a lasting contribution to the
language. When one wishes to emphasize that a project has not lived up
to expectations, one says that one has managed to Gormley-Bulsh it.
http://www.acroflyer.com/1914blowflye_aircraft.htm
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