---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 08/04/06: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:44 AM - Sport Pilot written test passed; taxiing downwind () 2. 07:13 AM - Re: Re: Check List (Vic Peters) 3. 07:19 AM - Re: Kolb (Richard Pike) 4. 07:29 AM - Re: Another Check List (TheWanderingWench) 5. 08:21 AM - I lead a charmed life (Richard Girard) 6. 09:19 AM - Re: I lead a charmed life (Ralph Hoover) 7. 10:15 AM - Re: Re: Check List (David Key) 8. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: I lead a charmed life (Richard Girard) 9. 10:41 AM - Re: flap speed (boyd) 10. 11:51 AM - Re: Re: Check List (John Hauck) 11. 01:36 PM - Re: Re: Check List (Vic Peters) 12. 02:13 PM - Re: Kolb (planecrazzzy) 13. 02:42 PM - Re: Kolb (planecrazzzy) 14. 02:51 PM - Re: Re: Check List (John Hauck) 15. 03:53 PM - Re: Re: Check List (John Cooley) 16. 04:20 PM - Re: Check List (Ralph Hoover) 17. 04:24 PM - Re: Kolb (Ralph Hoover) 18. 05:46 PM - Coolant Recovery Bottle and Mount (John Hauck) 19. 06:19 PM - Re: Firestar cruise (Dave Bigelow) 20. 06:26 PM - Re: Re: Check List (Charlie England) 21. 06:38 PM - Fuel tank filler line (Mike Schnabel) 22. 06:43 PM - Call out for Steven Green (Mike Schnabel) 23. 06:53 PM - Re: Fuel tank filler line (John Hauck) 24. 07:10 PM - Re: Fuel tank filler line aka Golf tees (Bob Noyer) 25. 07:32 PM - Coolant bottle. (Ed Chmielewski) 26. 08:01 PM - Re: Re: Check List (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 27. 08:19 PM - Re: Coolant bottle. (Larry Bourne) 28. 08:23 PM - Re: Re: Check List (David Key) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:44:55 AM PST US From: Subject: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot written test passed; taxiing downwind --> Kolb-List message posted by: Gentlemen: Sport Pilot Test I took the Sport Pilot written exam yesterday and passed with a 100%. Next step is getting the student pilot cert followed by a few hours doing checkride prep. Taxiiing Downwind With all due respect to Bro' Hart, if I had used his recommendations for control positioning to answer some of the questions, I would not have gotten a perfect score. The SP written expects that your answers to questions such as these will reflect these procedures: Taxi upwind = elevator up Taxi downwind = elevator down Upwind crosswind = aileron on the side the wind is coming from is up Downwind crosswind = aileron on the side the wind is coming from is down Synopsis: When taxiing upwind position the controls TOWARD the wind; when taxiing downwind position them AWAY from the wind. If you do something else in your particular aircraft, that's up to you, and I won't argue or debate with anyone about it. However, if you want to PASS the written exam, you need to answer the way the FAA says you should. Note: The above is consistent with a PP ground school I took 20+ years ago as well as all the instruction I've ever received from CFIs over the years, including the local taildragger "expert". -Ken Fackler Kolb Mark II / A722KWF Rochester MI ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:47 AM PST US From: "Vic Peters" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Check List --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" David K., Does your titan exhast come very close to the ignition boxes? If so how did you deal with it? Also how and where did you mount the coolant overflow bottle? Vic MKIIIX 912 do not archive -- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:59 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Here is a link to some installed pictures of the battery and hotbox in a FSII. http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/FSII%20Hot%20Box.html Ground the battery to the airframe, and ground the engine to the airframe. If you put the battery where we have ours, or anywhere close to the rear seat, it will work out ok because it will be close to the cg. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Duffney wrote: > This is my first message to the Kolb list. I have been lurking on this > list for quite some time. I would like some info on the location of a > Hot Box in a Firestar11. Also, battery location so that I can send the > information to Hot Box. For my harness. I am looking for the > dimensions for a motor base plate for a 503 or to purchase one if > anyone has one. Is it better to ground to the battery or to the > aircraft frame? Do I need to do a weight and balance before installing > the battery? Hope this message makes it to the list. > Thanks for all the good reads and ideas. > > Tim Duffney > Hibbing Minnesota > > PS. To John Hauck tried to hook up with you at Oshkosh to pick your > brain and introduce you to a friend, I was the guy on the black > motorcycle that waved at you Wed evening. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:21 AM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Another Check List --> Kolb-List message posted by: TheWanderingWench I think this checklist came out for the GT 400/500. Can certainly be adapted for a Kolb. Arty Cabin Ignition OFF Strobe switch ON Master switch ON Check strobe FLASHING Strobe switch OFF Master switch OFF Loose objects SECURE Hobbes REECORD Fuel tank cap SECURE Chute release pin REMOVE Rear Compartment Fuel shut-off valve ON Fuel level CHECK Fuel filter CHECK FOR DIRT AND SECURITY Wiring harness SECURE Fabric buckles SECURE, TOP AND BOTTOM Side zipper CLOSED Left Wing Left brake line CHECK FOR BUBBLES Main left wheel tire CHECK INFLATION Lower surface fabric CHECK Upper surface fabric CHECK Left wing tie-downs DISCONNECT Aileron hinges and control fittings CHECK Flap hinges and control rod CHECK Strobe SECURE Wing zipper CLOSED Empennage Rudder hinges SECURE Rudder control cables, nuts, pins SECURE Elevator hinges SECURE Elevator push rods, nuts, pins SECURE Internal tube fittings SECURE Fabric NO DAMAGE, TIGHT Tail Strobe SECURE Tail tie-down DISCONNECT Engine (503 dual carb) Propeller bolts & nuts CHECK Propeller condition CHECK Muffler SECURE, CHECK SAFETY WIRES Spark plugs TIGHT Spark plug caps SECURE Engine temp wires SECURE Right Wing Flap hinges and control rod SECURE Aileron hinges and control fittings SECURE Right wing tie-down DISCONNECT Upper surface fabric CHECK Lower surface fabric CHECK Main right wheel tire CHECK INFLATION Right brake line CHECK FOR BUBBLES Strobe SECURE Wing zipper CLOSED Nose Pod CHECK FOR CRACKING Nose wheel CHECK INFLATION AND SECURITY Nose wheel brake CHECK CONDITION & OPERATION Pitot tube OPENING CLEAR Before Engine Start Preflight inspection COMPLETE Seats, belts, shoulder harn. ADJUST & LOCK Helmet CHIN STRAP SECURE Fuel shut off valve ON Radios, electrical equipment OFF Strobes OFF Brakes TEST & SET Engine Start Prime AS REQUIRED Throttle SLIGHTLY OPEN Propeller area VISUAL CHECK Master switch ON "Clear Prop" CALL Choke HOLD ON AS NEEDED Ignition switch ON (release on start) Throttle ADJUST TO IDLE A 2,000 RPM Strobe switch ON (Radio) (REPORT START TAXI) Before Take-off Brake SET Controls check REE AND CORRECT Flaps SET Instruments SET Gas and fuel valve CHECK LEVEL AND VALVE OPEN Throttle TO 4,000 RPM Left & right sparks CHECK FOR RPM DROP Throttle IDLE Engine instruments, ammeter CHECK Engine temps CHT, EGT CHECK Strobe ON (Radio) (CALL) Final scan 360 DEGREE TRAFFIC CHECK Brakes RELEASE After Take-off Wheels BRAKE TO STOP WHEEL SPIN Before Landing Cabin SECURE LOSE OBJECTS Harness and helmet SECURE Slow flight SET FLAPS IN WHITE ARC Approach speed 40 MPH (Radio) (CALL DOWNWIND, BASE & FINAL) After Landing Flaps NEUTRAL Strobe, master and key OFF Hobbs RECORD Fuel FILL Chute pin INSTALLED Tie downs SECURE www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:21:56 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Kolb-List: I lead a charmed life Despite needing to get on the road for CA, it was too nice to not take one more ride around the pattern. "Normal preflight, aux tank on pump, taxi out." "Pretty cross, but nothing I haven't handled before." "Maybe I should taxi up to the flag, and make sure I'm not adding a downwind component." "I can always take off from half field, 1200 feet is enough for a Kolb." "Doesn't look like enough to be a problem, NBD, why waste the runway?" "Okay, Into the wind, controls set, start feeding in throttle." "Engine sounds normal, tail up, looks good, continue nice smooth pull back." "ENGINE RPM DROPPED, LAND, LAND, LAND". "What the F***, over?" Settle in nicely, roll out and begin turn back up runway." "Engine dies, oh great, here I sit smack dab in the middle of the runway" "Fiddle about with throttle, engine starts, won't go over about 3000 RPM, WTFO?" "Engine dies again, get out, check engine pull up throttle cable boots and check cables, looks good, straighten out tail wheel." "Try engine, starts right up, accelerate normal, taxi back." "Add throttle to get up slope to the yard, engine dies again." "Roll backward down slope, thank goodness for that full swivel tailwheel." "At least I'm out of the way, sit for a moment cursing, try engine, engine starts, throttles normally, taxi up slope and back to hangar." "Okay, let's have a look, hmmm, no fuel in line north of fuel pump, no fuel in line north of filter, line south of filter full of fuel." "Crap. Put it away, rebuild fuel system when I get back, add electric boost pump." "The runway behind you, the gas still at the FBO, the altitude above you, my ex wife." Yesterday I was finally getting comfortable with flying low. Cruising along the Arkansas River at 150', trees for 1/4 mile on either bank. Engine sang her usual sweet siren song, "depend on me, depend on me". Bitch. I wonder if she knows my ex wife? -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:19:34 AM PST US From: "Ralph Hoover" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: I lead a charmed life --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" Said: "hmmm, no fuel in line north of fuel pump, no fuel in line north of filter" and: "Yesterday I was finally getting comfortable with flying low. Cruising along the Arkansas River at 150' trees for 1/4 mile on either bank" and then this: "depend on me, depend on me..." First, Brother of the sky, it sure appears that "Someone" is looking out for you. At 150 feet above river with trees on both sides, and 1/4 miles away, (do the math, and you will see why I say that), unless your amphibious, somebody up there Loves you. I also found, not by personal example, but by another, that engines especially don't like being called disrespectful names. Be nice to your motor and it will be nice to you. I will send you a photo or two of a duel fuel manifold system yjay my Instructor and I put together for just those occasions, when your not feeling really fresh. I personally believe that in spite of your determination to fly with something possibly amiss, that some "authority" took over past common sense. I know, there isn't very many individuals more stubborn than me, and I will MAKE IT FLY ^%$#%^76 , cause that's what I want NOW! The very best thing you have to consider is that your here and the plane is still complete and you vented among your peers. I love you man!! (In the male bonding way). Ohio Ralph Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52301#52301 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:53 AM PST US From: "David Key" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Check List --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" I didn't know I had titan exhaust. There's a little room near the boxes >From: "Vic Peters" >To: >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Check List >Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:09:04 -0400 > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" > >David K., Does your titan exhast come very close to the ignition boxes? >If so how did you deal with it? >Also how and where did you mount the coolant overflow bottle? > >Vic >MKIIIX 912 >do not archive > > >-- > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >http://wiki.matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:42 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I lead a charmed life Ralph, One small correction, after she quit, all thoughts of flying today were gone. I know when to take a hint and listen to those short hairs on the back of my neck. I'd have left her shut down, but I didn't want to put myself in cardiac arrest pushing and pulling her 1/2 a mile back to the house. The Rotax is gonna have to learn the lesson the Vibraglide knows. "Don't screw with Daddy, he has wrenches and will take you apart and put you in a box." Who knows, maybe the Rotax got wind of my plan to replace her with a Jabiru. Gotta be more secretive, I guess. Rick On 8/4/06, Ralph Hoover wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" > > > Said: > "hmmm, no fuel in line north of fuel pump, no fuel in line north of > filter" > > and: > "Yesterday I was finally getting comfortable with flying low. Cruising > along the Arkansas River at 150' trees for 1/4 mile on either bank" > > and then this: > > "depend on me, depend on me..." > > First, Brother of the sky, it sure appears that "Someone" is looking out > for you. At 150 feet above river with trees on both sides, and 1/4 miles > away, (do the math, and you will see why I say that), unless your > amphibious, somebody up there Loves you. > > I also found, not by personal example, but by another, that engines > especially don't like being called disrespectful names. Be nice to your > motor and it will be nice to you. > > I will send you a photo or two of a duel fuel manifold system yjay my > Instructor and I put together for just those occasions, when your not > feeling really fresh. > > I personally believe that in spite of your determination to fly with > something possibly amiss, that some "authority" took over past common sense. > I know, there isn't very many individuals more stubborn than me, and I will > MAKE IT FLY ^%$#%^76 , cause that's what I want NOW! > > The very best thing you have to consider is that your here and the plane > is still complete and you vented among your peers. I love you man!! (In the > male bonding way). > > Ohio Ralph > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52301#52301 > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:39 AM PST US From: "boyd" Subject: Kolb-List: RE: flap speed --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd" Time: 12:23:27 PM PST US --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" Speaking of which... what's the Vfe (max. flap extend speed) on my MkIIIC? Anyone know? -- R >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Years ago kolb told me that if you could pull it.. it was ok to use.... ( no limit other than vne) I posted mine at 70 Also they wanted me to make sure there was a triangle gusset welded to the flap torque tube where the actuating arm is attached... if the arm does not have a gusset.( early models) put one on. Boyd ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:51:43 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Check List --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" "David Key" | | I didn't know I had titan exhaust. There's a little room near the boxes David: Those little black boxes cost 700.00 a piece to replace. When I was running the Titan exhaust system I wrapped that area of the tube that was closest to the black box with fiberglass exhaust header wrap. Secured both ends with hose clamps. Did that fix work. Reckon so. Never had an ign problem. john h ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:36:19 PM PST US From: "Vic Peters" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Check List --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" Thanks John (exhast wrap). Maybe you could tell me how you mounted your coolant overflow bottle. Thanks for the gas can info also, I was allready to buy two 10's at $86 each and have some one weld a minor mod for them. 12 gals. will do for now. Vic MKIIIX 912ul Maine do not archive -- ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:13:43 PM PST US From: "planecrazzzy" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" Here's some pictures, I had to bend the cross tube "up" a little for clearance...I used a bottle jack... Although I'd rather have it in the nose of the plane ( I'm carrying 16 lbs of dead weight up there ) Gotta Fly... Mike ( from the KMA list ) -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52396#52396 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pictures_from_cd_097_147.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00168_810.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc00172_203.jpg ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:42:05 PM PST US From: "planecrazzzy" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" kma -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52400#52400 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/engine_ground_484.jpg ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:51:59 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Check List --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | coolant overflow bottle. | | Vic Vic: Used a nalgene plastic bottle (the kind most little cafes use for mustard and catsup. Welded up a little aluminum bracket with tabs to mount to the two 6mm taped holes in the back (opposite prop) of the gear box. Used a couple tie wraps to secure the bottle to the bracket. john h ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:53:33 PM PST US From: "John Cooley" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Check List Hi Vic/John, I just happen to have a picture that shows the bottle in question. Took the picture in 2004 when John was at Octoberlite fly-in at Ronnie Smith's. Hope it helps. P.S. Hope the picture is not too big for the dial-up folks. I've converted to Hughes satellite service and things are much better and more expensive. Later, John Cooley --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | coolant overflow bottle. | | Vic -- ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:20:39 PM PST US From: "Ralph Hoover" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Check List --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" Quote: "P.S. Hope the picture is not too big for the dial-up folks." Well John Cooley, Have John Hauck Tighten that Bolt below the black hose with the Blue "T" fitting 1/4 turn more and I did notice several specs of material in that 2 micron filter! Ha, HA! That picture blowed up so big I needed two days to see it all! Ha! Ohio Ralph, P.S. is that "Full Scale"? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52425#52425 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:24:23 PM PST US From: "Ralph Hoover" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" A Man could eat off of any part in your plane, it's so clean. And talk about workmanship, Outa this world. I'll be sending my Firestar in a box here in the next several weeks for you to make purty like yours. Anal, man absolutely anal! And, thats a good thing. Amazed Ralph in Ohio! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52426#52426 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:46:51 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Coolant Recovery Bottle and Mount --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" Changed the subject line to reflect what we are talking about. Forgot to mention, I used a couple 582 radiator shock mounts which have 6mm studs on them, to screw into the rear of the gear box. Then mounted my recovery bottle and mount on the two shock mounts. Was it necessary to use the shock mounts? Not sure. But since I had them, I used them. Also acts as a thermal barrier between gear box and bottle. Take care, john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:19:42 PM PST US From: "Dave Bigelow" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar cruise --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" My Firestar II is happiest in the 45-60 mph range. You can push it above that, but it doesn't fly as comfortably in the upper range near the red line - also the miles per gallon goes down at the higher speeds. At 60 mph (5,000 ft density altitude), the 503 turns about 5,500 rpm. My bird is a stock open cockpit model with windscreen and no strut fairings. -------- Dave Bigelow Kamuela, Hawaii FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52447#52447 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:00 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Check List --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England John Cooley wrote: >Hi Vic/John, > >I just happen to have a picture that shows the bottle in question. Took the >picture in 2004 when John was at Octoberlite fly-in at Ronnie Smith's. Hope >it helps. > >P.S. Hope the picture is not too big for the dial-up folks. I've converted >to Hughes satellite service and things are much better and more expensive. > >Later, >John Cooley > > > Truncated! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This message exceeded the Maximum Message Size set in Preferences, so > we have only downloaded the first few lines from the mail server. > > Click here > > to download the rest of the message. > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:38:40 PM PST US From: Mike Schnabel Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel tank filler line Group, This question is really for John H., but I posted to the list for anyone else that might be interested in a simple way to transfer fuel from the can to your tank, that is also easy to stow onboard during flight with minimal weight or space penalty. John, please refresh me on the tube you use, material type and size, and if possible a good mail order source. I have not found a local A/C supply Co. i trust, so most items I buy have been bought online. BTW, I found those golf tees, and they fit the vent holes we drilled in the gas cans like they were made to be there! Great tip, Thanks! Mike S Manchester TN Firestar2 503 do not archive --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:13 PM PST US From: Mike Schnabel Subject: Kolb-List: Call out for Steven Green Hate to be a pest, but thought i would make one more shout out to find Steven Green in Etowah TN. I tried the email address i had, but not sure it was up to date. So Steven, if you can read this (or is anyone knows him that can pass this along), please contact me off list if you get a chance. Thanks to Steven, and all, Mike S Manchester TN Firestar2 503 do not archive --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:53:20 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel tank filler line --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" Hi Mike S: To transfer fuel from the can to the aircraft I use 6 feet of 1" OD X 7/8" ID vinyl hose. Can pick it up at anything large hardware store, or try Lowes, Home Depot, etc. Been using this system since I learned about it from a friend who flew an S-1 Pitts. Was walking by his hanger one day, where he was standing off from the airplane, holding the gas can up and transferring fuel from can to tank via the 1" hose. Wish I knew how much fuel I have transferred this way. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:10:54 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel tank filler line aka Golf tees --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer Mike, In The Big One (WWII) every PBY-5 had a bag of golf tees and a hammer. Used to fill holes where rivets popped out in hull. Too small for bullet holes, though. But Moderator, it does having flying in it! regards, Bob N. http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:05 PM PST US From: "Ed Chmielewski" Subject: Kolb-List: Coolant bottle. --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" Hi John, Thanks for the downsizing. I can BARELY see that tiny bottle! (Just joking. It's still huge!) Ed in JXN MkII/503 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 6:49 PM > Hi Vic/John, > > I just happen to have a picture that shows the bottle in question. Took > the > picture in 2004 when John was at Octoberlite fly-in at Ronnie Smith's. > Hope > it helps. > > P.S. Hope the picture is not too big for the dial-up folks. I've converted > to Hughes satellite service and things are much better and more expensive. > > Later, > John Cooley ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:01:42 PM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Check List OK Vic stop down I know you need my help again we can mix a drink and I will make you the little tank holder you need You going to the fly in tomorrow ? Ellery in Maine also do not archive ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 08:19:46 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Coolant bottle. --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" I'll repeat a previous offer..........if you're unsure of the size of a picture you want to attach, email it to me in whatever size, I'll reduce it for you and email it back. No more frustrated people on dial up. I like to put them at 1000 pixels wide for easy viewing, and compress them to 50-75 kb for easy downloading. I can really sympathize - I was on dial up the whole 4 weeks I was on vacation last month, and it was really frustrating. Sure glad I'm back on high speed. Sure wish I was back on vacation. It's easy to set your computer to reject any email over a size you choose. If you missed the directions last time, email me off List, and I'll give you a step by step. While on vacation, I limited my computer to nothing larger than 250 kb, and it was much better. Even 250 takes quite a while on dial up, but you can set it anywhere you want. Lar. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:31 PM > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ed Chmielewski" > > > Hi John, > > Thanks for the downsizing. I can BARELY see that tiny bottle! > > (Just joking. It's still huge!) > > Ed in JXN > MkII/503 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 6:49 PM > > >> Hi Vic/John, >> >> I just happen to have a picture that shows the bottle in question. Took >> the >> picture in 2004 when John was at Octoberlite fly-in at Ronnie Smith's. >> Hope >> it helps. >> >> P.S. Hope the picture is not too big for the dial-up folks. I've >> converted >> to Hughes satellite service and things are much better and more >> expensive. >> >> Later, >> John Cooley > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:56 PM PST US From: "David Key" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Check List --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" It will be done. Thanks, David do not archive >David: > >Those little black boxes cost 700.00 a piece to replace. > >When I was running the Titan exhaust system I wrapped that area of the >tube that was closest to the black box with fiberglass exhaust header >wrap. Secured both ends with hose clamps. > >Did that fix work. Reckon so. Never had an ign problem. > >john h >