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     1. 04:01 AM - Re: Wing strut fairings (APilot@webtv.net)
     2. 04:05 AM - Re: stalls (pat ladd)
     3. 04:30 AM - Re: Re: Control positioning during ground handling (pat ladd)
     4. 04:40 AM - Flight Star vs Mark III Classic (APilot@webtv.net)
     5. 04:48 AM - Re: Re: Control positioning during ground handling (Ralph)
     6. 05:00 AM - Re: Re: Control positioning during ground handling (robert bean)
     7. 05:11 AM - Re: Re: Control positioning during ground handling (APilot@webtv.net)
     8. 05:26 AM - Re: Kolb (Thom Riddle)
     9. 06:25 AM - Re: Re: Kolb (Vic Peters)
    10. 06:40 AM - Re: exhast (Vic Peters)
    11. 06:53 AM - Re: Re: Control positioning during ground handling (Chris Mallory)
    12. 07:11 AM - Re: Re: Control positioning during ground handling (John Hauck)
    13. 07:15 AM - Trip North (John Hauck)
    14. 09:12 AM - Steve Green (thumb)
    15. 12:05 PM - Re: Steve Green (thumb)
    16. 12:20 PM - Re: Trip North (Denny Rowe)
    17. 12:21 PM - Re: Trip North (planecrazzzy)
    18. 12:57 PM - Re: Re: Kolb (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
    19. 12:58 PM - Re: Flight Star vs Mark III Classic (Richard Girard)
    20. 01:13 PM - Re: Flight Star vs Mark III Classic (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
    21. 01:28 PM - Re: Re: Kolb (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
    22. 01:39 PM - Re: Flight Star vs Mark III Classic (Richard Pike)
    23. 02:12 PM - Re: Trip North (Ralph Hoover)
    24. 02:39 PM - Re: Flight Star vs Mark III Classic (Richard Girard)
    25. 03:07 PM - Re: Trip North (planecrazzzy)
    26. 04:33 PM - Re: Trip North (Ralph Hoover)
    27. 04:50 PM - New Incoming Message Size Limit Implemented... (Matt Dralle)
    28. 05:11 PM - Re: Trip North (planecrazzzy)
    29. 06:23 PM - Re: Re: Trip North (Bob Noyer)
    30. 07:41 PM - Re: New Incoming Message Size Limit Implemented... (Eugene Zimmerman)
    31. 08:09 PM - Re: Fuel tank filler line (WillUribe@aol.com)
    32. 08:42 PM - Re: Trip North (WillUribe@aol.com)
    33. 08:54 PM - Kolb Mark III for sale (Roger Lee)
    34. 08:59 PM - Re: Fuel tank filler line (john s. flannery)
    35. 11:13 PM - Control Stiffness (Domenic Perez)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Wing strut fairings | 
      
      --> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
      
      I never riveted by fairings.  They seem to fit fairly tight.  Maybe I
      should.  Vic
      
      
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       "As the nose drops, you ease the stick forward while adding power to 
      arrest the descent.">>
      
      Hi,
      that may be fine on an exercise when you are expecting a stall but 
      pretty useless in real life. `Stick forward and opposite rudder` is all 
      you really need. Forget the engine, it is the wing that stalls and as 
      with most things lowering the angle of attack will sort it out. In fact 
      unless you are  entering a really viscious stall a  slight release of 
      back pressure wil do. 
      Talk to a glider pilot. Incipient spins and stalls form a major part of 
      the training. Glider pilots spent the majority of their time in  rough 
      thermals, steeply banked and teetering on the edge of a stall because 
      you climb faster that way.
      On the appraoch the low and slow final turn is a particularly dangerous 
      spot because the wind gradient may well give a difference of 10 knots 
      difference in windspeed beetween the wing tips on a  long sailplane 
      wing. If you are near the stall the up wing may be just above the stall 
      but the lower wing could stall and quit flying. Turning `flat` because 
      you are too close to the ground is worse as your outside wing will speed 
      up and tend to rise while the inside wing will slow down and could 
      stall. Classic spin entry.
      With the Kolbs shorter wing the effect is not so pronounced but a 
      similar situation is present.
      
      Cheers
      
      Pat
      
      do not archiv
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Control positioning during ground handling | 
      
       full stick forward while taxiing up wind or at the start of the takeoff 
      roll, >>
      
      Hi Rick
      
      certainly don`t agree with the first part,stick back holds the tail down 
      but stick forward when you open the throttle seems pretty obvious. As 
      soon as the propwash hits the elevator the tail is up, just a matter of 
      feet, and you have full control.
      
      I have seen somewhere that the STOL technique is stick right back, full 
      throttle, and it wiill fly itself off. Presumably you have to get the 
      stick forward a bit smartish when you lift off or you will be just 
      hanging on the prop.
      Does anybody actually takeoff that way. John? you must have had to get 
      out out of some tight spots. How is it done?
      
      Cheers
      
      Pat
      
      do not archive
      
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| Subject:  | Flight Star vs Mark III Classic | 
      
      --> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
      
      I flew a Flight Star a few years ago and now I am flying my Mk III.  As
      I remember, the Flightstar was a very nice flying airplane with light
      controls.  My Classic seems stiffer.  Anyone, have comments on the
      comparisons.  Also, has anyone bothered to measure the glide ratios and
      minimum sink numbers without power?
              Vic in Sacramento
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Control positioning during ground handling | 
      
      Pat and others, I normally do a short-field takeoff every time I fly 
      
      even in the windiest conditions. Full back stick and full throttle. It 
      
      lifts off fast! As soon as it breaks ground, the stick goes forward 
      
      and then I climb as normal.
      
      Ralph
      Original Firestar
      19 years flying it as an ultralight
      N91493
      
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       full stick forward while taxiing up wind or at the start of the takeoff 
      roll, >>
      
      Hi Rick
      
      certainly don`t agree with the first part,stick back holds the tail down 
      but stick forward when you open the throttle seems pretty obvious. As 
      soon as the propwash hits the elevator the tail is up, just a matter of 
      feet, and you have full control.
      
      I have seen somewhere that the STOL technique is stick right back, full 
      throttle, and it wiill fly itself off. Presumably you have to get the 
      stick forward a bit smartish when you lift off or you will be just 
      hanging on the prop.
      Does anybody actually takeoff that way. John? you must have had to get 
      out out of some tight spots. How is it done?
      
      Cheers
      
      Pat
      
      do not archive
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Control positioning during ground handling | 
      
      On my MkIII I recently tried my old "pop off" technique that worked so
      impressively with my old Aeronca.  (11AC had a higher stance than a
      Champ and a 74-43 metal climb prop) It would suddenly jump off
      at a steep angle.  Stick full back from the beginning of the roll.
      Very short, 200-300 ft ground run.
      
      When using the same method, the Kolb just wants to stay stuck on the 
      ground.
      It actually extends the roll and feels unhappy doing it.  Now I
      relax the stick and coax it off.
      I'm sure with longer legs things would be different.
      
      Maybe I'll give that one notch takeoff a try today.
      -BB  do not archive
      
      On 6, Aug 2006, at 7:28 AM, pat ladd wrote:
      
      > -full stick forward while taxiing up wind or at the start of the 
      > takeoff roll, >>
      > -
      > Hi Rick
      > -
      > certainly don`t agree with the first part,stick back holds the tail 
      > down but stick forward when you open the throttle seems pretty 
      > obvious. As soon as the propwash hits the elevator the tail is up, 
      > just a matter of feet, and you have full control.
      > -
      > I have seen somewhere that the STOL technique is stick right back, 
      > full throttle, and it wiill fly itself off. Presumably you have to get 
      
      > the stick forward a bit smartish when you lift off or you will be just 
      
      > hanging on the prop.
      > Does anybody actually takeoff that way. John? you must have had to get 
      
      > out out of some tight spots. How is it done?
      > -
      > Cheers
      > -
      > Pat
      > -
      > do not archive
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Control positioning during ground handling | 
      
      --> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
      
      When I use to fly my PA-11 and the wind was down the runway, I use to
      add power and forward stick.  As soon as the tail came up, it was ready
      to fly.  If the wind was from the side, I would hold the stick back to
      put pressure on the tail wheel until the rudder would hold it straight.
      I think that my Mk IIIC will be the same, but have yet to build enough
      confidence to do crosswind practice.     Vic in Sacramento
      
      
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      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
      
      My Titan (and all Titans) had the battery in the nose and was still a bit tail
      heavy. Mine required a 180 lb pilot to get the CG inside the required range. Lighter
      Titan pilots add weight to the nose even with the battery. 
      
      With the proper sized cables running to the starter I never had a problem starting
      in the cold Buffalo winters.
      
      Speaking of GPS, I just upgraded to the Airmap 2000C and have an Airmap 100 for
      sale. If anyone is interested, contact me directly at jtriddle_at_adelphia.net
      replace the "_at_" with the ampersand. I have the RAM cradle and two types
      RAM mounts plus the 12v cig. lighter power adapter.
      
      do not archive
      
      --------
      Thom in Buffalo
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52724#52724
      
      
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      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
      
      Is that Airmap 2000C amazing or what? I've only been able to use it in my 
      truck so far but if I do a quick left and right turn in my lane going down 
      the road it shows up instantly on screen just as if I did a wing wag.(or 
      what ever you call it)
      
      Vic
      MKIIIX 912 UL
      Maine
      Do not archive 
      
      
      -- 
      
      
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      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
      
      Hey David K.
        If that isn't Titan exhaust what is it? I just assumed thats what I had. 
      Don't really know.
      
      Vic
      MKIIX 912 UL
      Maine
      do not archive 
      
      
      -- 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Control positioning during ground handling | 
      
      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
      
      You know, one the easiest things in aviation has to be handling a Kolb on 
      take off because you really don't have to do much more than use the rudder 
      to keep it in the middle of the strip.
      
      Kolbs (God bless em) do it for you, you push forward a little to much and it 
      may do a nose stand for you, you pull back and it just extends the take off 
      roll but if you just hold the stick loosely (figure of speech) in the 
      neutral position and lo and behold, the tail comes up exactly when it is 
      supposed to and a gentle back pressure sends you skyward. For me this method 
      works in all situations even in stout cross winds.
      
      You really don't have to "over fly" a Kolb and you don't have to second 
      guess it.
      
      do not archive
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 8:06 AM
      
      
      > --> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
      >
      > When I use to fly my PA-11 and the wind was down the runway, I use to
      > add power and forward stick.  As soon as the tail came up, it was ready
      > to fly.  If the wind was from the side, I would hold the stick back to
      > put pressure on the tail wheel until the rudder would hold it straight.
      > I think that my Mk IIIC will be the same, but have yet to build enough
      > confidence to do crosswind practice.     Vic in Sacramento
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Control positioning during ground handling | 
      
      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
      
      
        |  but if you just hold the stick loosely (figure of speech) in the
      | neutral position and lo and behold, the tail comes up exactly when 
      it is
      | supposed to and a gentle back pressure sends you skyward. For me 
      this method
      | works in all situations even in stout cross winds.
      |
      | You really don't have to "over fly" a Kolb and you don't have to 
      second
      | guess it.
      
      Hi Chris M:
      
      That's the way I have been doing it for years.  Let the Kolb fly with 
      a little input to let it know what and where you want to go.
      
      john h
      mkIII 
      
      
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      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
      
      Morning Gang:
      
      Departing hauck's holler very shortly for a road trip north to Homer 
      Kolb's.  Have not been to Homer's since I came through that way in 
      1994, on my way around the country in the mkIII.
      
      Will have a chance to see the 1985 OSH Grand Champion Ultralight, a 
      refurbished Kolb Firestar.  Might even talk Homer into flying it 
      around the patch.
      
      However, the primary purpose of this trip, in addition to visiting the 
      Kolbs, is the Rough and Tumble Steam and Gas Engine Show at Kinzers, 
      PA, about 30 miles west of Homer's.  As some of you all know, Homer 
      has been a John Deere tractor collector for many years.  Fortunately 
      or unfortunately, the tractor bug bit me a couple years ago.  This bug 
      causes a terrible disease called "tractor fever".  It is incurable. 
      This trip will keep "tractor fever" in remission for a short period of 
      time.
      
      I will take my lap top and cell phone with me, 334-315-2621.  Planning 
      an op stop in Winchester, VA, either on the north or south.  Will 
      inform Grey Baron of ETA when I can confirm it.
      
      Hope to see some of my PA friends while at Homer's.
      
      Take care,
      
      john h
      hauck's holler (remote), alabama 
      
      
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          Hi Gang..
         
          I am trying to get in touch with Steve Green, does anyone know where 
      he is. Steve if you are still on the list get send me an E-mail.
      
           Thanks  
                       Bill Futrell
         Do Not Archive
      
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            Hey Steve I forgot ot add my e-mail    bill_joe@bellsouth.net 
                
             Thanks  Bill Futrell
      
          Do NOt Archive
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: thumb 
        To: kolb-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:10 PM
        Subject: Kolb-List: Steve Green
      
      
            Hi Gang..
           
            I am trying to get in touch with Steve Green, does anyone know 
      where he is. Steve if you are still on the list get send me an E-mail.
      
             Thanks  
                         Bill Futrell
           Do Not Archive
      
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      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
      
      John,
      If you swing West on your way home and pass near Pittsburgh., drop me a line 
      and try to stop in and RON here.
      Neither of my birds are flying this year (or last) :-( but they are 
      available for inspection.
      I have a great little Farmall Cub with the Woods belly mower.  I'll make 
      sure to have a few acres available for your mowing pleasure.  :-) Ought to 
      be enough of a fix to get you right for your trip back to "Hanks"ville.
      I'll even have a dirt bike available for an off road fix too.
      
      Denny Rowe,
      Mk-3 690L-70, Loehle Sport Parasol 503 SI.
      Leechburg ,PA
      Home 724 845 1431
      Cell 724 882 6788
      Lindas cell 724 882 2751
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 10:13 AM
      
      
      > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
      >
      > Morning Gang:
      >
      > Departing hauck's holler very shortly for a road trip north to Homer
      > Kolb's.  Have not been to Homer's since I came through that way in
      > 1994, on my way around the country in the mkIII.
      >
      > Will have a chance to see the 1985 OSH Grand Champion Ultralight, a
      > refurbished Kolb Firestar.  Might even talk Homer into flying it
      > around the patch.
      >
      > However, the primary purpose of this trip, in addition to visiting the
      > Kolbs, is the Rough and Tumble Steam and Gas Engine Show at Kinzers,
      > PA, about 30 miles west of Homer's.  As some of you all know, Homer
      > has been a John Deere tractor collector for many years.  Fortunately
      > or unfortunately, the tractor bug bit me a couple years ago.  This bug
      > causes a terrible disease called "tractor fever".  It is incurable.
      > This trip will keep "tractor fever" in remission for a short period of
      > time.
      >
      > I will take my lap top and cell phone with me, 334-315-2621.  Planning
      > an op stop in Winchester, VA, either on the north or south.  Will
      > inform Grey Baron of ETA when I can confirm it.
      >
      > Hope to see some of my PA friends while at Homer's.
      >
      > Take care,
      >
      > john h
      > hauck's holler (remote), alabama
      >
      >
      > -- 
      >
      > 
      
      
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      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
      
      Hey John,
                    Thanks to your adventures and pictures of flying around...
      and your advice during my building.... I,m now enjoying a little of it myself
      
       In appreciation for your help , While your out on your journey, I'm
      offering to buy you a STEAK DINNER.....I'm realizing how the luxurys of
      home quickly get left behind....
      
       Scan the recipt and tell me where to send the check 
      ( I'm guess'n around 25 bucks )
      
       Just hope it makes your trip a little nicer...
      
        I hope you take me up on this offer !
      
        Your my Hero,
                             Gotta Fly...
                                             Mike in MN
      .
      .
      .
      
      --------
      .
      .
      .
      .
      .
      Do Not Archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52806#52806
      
      
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      The new Gps systems are sure great I have a 295 Garmin color moving map  now  
      alot more features than the older models, more info is good to have 
      
                                                                                    
                      Ellery
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flight Star vs Mark III Classic | 
      
      Vic, Where are you in Sacto? I'm up in Corning for the repairman maintenance
      class at Rainbow Aviation. I have weekends off and would love to talk Kolbs.
      
      Rick
      
      On 8/6/06, APilot@webtv.net <APilot@webtv.net> wrote:
      >
      > --> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
      >
      > I flew a Flight Star a few years ago and now I am flying my Mk III.  As
      > I remember, the Flightstar was a very nice flying airplane with light
      > controls.  My Classic seems stiffer.  Anyone, have comments on the
      > comparisons.  Also, has anyone bothered to measure the glide ratios and
      > minimum sink numbers without power?
      >         Vic in Sacramento
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Girard
      "Ya'll drop on in"
      takes on a whole new meaning
      when you live at the airport.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flight Star vs Mark III Classic | 
      
      Richard,
      
          What is the date or the repairman's course?
      
      AzDave
      Do Not Archive
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Richard Girard 
        To: kolb-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:57 PM
        Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight Star vs Mark III Classic
      
      
        Vic, Where are you in Sacto? I'm up in Corning for the repairman 
      maintenance class at Rainbow Aviation. I have weekends off and would 
      love to talk Kolbs.
      
        Rick
      
      
        On 8/6/06, APilot@webtv.net <APilot@webtv.net> wrote:
          --> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
      
          I flew a Flight Star a few years ago and now I am flying my Mk III.  
      As
          I remember, the Flightstar was a very nice flying airplane with 
      light 
          controls.  My Classic seems stiffer.  Anyone, have comments on the
          comparisons.  Also, has anyone bothered to measure the glide ratios 
      and
          minimum sink numbers without power?
                  Vic in Sacramento
      
      
        -- 
        Rick Girard
        "Ya'll drop on in"
        takes on a whole new meaning
        when you live at the airport. 
      
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      sorry about the post to the list I thought I wuz sending it to the Vic in 
      Maine
      
         Ellery
      
      do not archive
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flight Star vs Mark III Classic | 
      
      --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
      
      Stock, it is stiff in roll, but a simple aileron bellcrank mod is very 
      effective.
      http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg7.htm
      
      Richard Pike
      MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
      
      
      APilot@webtv.net wrote:
      > --> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
      >
      > I flew a Flight Star a few years ago and now I am flying my Mk III.  As
      > I remember, the Flightstar was a very nice flying airplane with light
      > controls.  My Classic seems stiffer.  Anyone, have comments on the
      > comparisons.  Also, has anyone bothered to measure the glide ratios and
      > minimum sink numbers without power?
      >         Vic in Sacramento
      >
      >
      >  
      >  
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      >   
      
      
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      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
      
      John, I, like Planecrazzy Mike appreciate your heorics and your advise. However,
      Mike and I differ in teh fact that If you pass central Ohio, (like Columbus
      area) during meal time, I'll let you buy me a steak! You and I could proctice
      soluting each other and I polish some brass buckles and streighten my gig line
      for you.
      
      
      Whoo........................., to the unindated, that sounds dirty. Sorry John,
      Just send me (after signing) the check Mike is sending you. You don't need any
      more money, you'l just buy more "green" stuff.
      
      Ohio Ralph, fasting for the big day, here in Ohio!
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52834#52834
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flight Star vs Mark III Classic | 
      
      Starts tomorrow and runs through the 27th.
      
      Rick
      
      On 8/6/06, Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote:
      >
      > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
      >
      > Stock, it is stiff in roll, but a simple aileron bellcrank mod is very
      > effective.
      > http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg7.htm
      >
      > Richard Pike
      > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
      >
      >
      > APilot@webtv.net wrote:
      > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
      > >
      > > I flew a Flight Star a few years ago and now I am flying my Mk III.  As
      > > I remember, the Flightstar was a very nice flying airplane with light
      > > controls.  My Classic seems stiffer.  Anyone, have comments on the
      > > comparisons.  Also, has anyone bothered to measure the glide ratios and
      > > minimum sink numbers without power?
      > >         Vic in Sacramento
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Girard
      "Ya'll drop on in"
      takes on a whole new meaning
      when you live at the airport.
      
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      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
      
      Hey Ralph,
      
            I'm guess'n you were born in "Babble-on"...He he he
      
      Gotta Fly...
                    Mike in MN
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52848#52848
      
      
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      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
      
      "Hey Ralph, 
      
      I'm guess'n you were born in "Babble-on"...He he he "
      
      
      No son, I was born in a mess-kit at the end of WW-II (the big one), and some of
      that rubbed off of me when I was a drill Sergeant!  My purpose was to remove
      the rough edges from snot nosed kids! He He!
      
      
      After they riffed me, I moved to babble-on, wherest I was able to meet the nice
      respectable, kind, appreciative, educated individuals such as yourself.
      
      But thank you for the kindness!.........Now get down and give me 50!
      
      Ralph "Fallin-in" in Ohio
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52860#52860
      
      
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| Subject:  | New Incoming Message Size Limit Implemented... | 
      
      --> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
      
      Dear Listers,
      
      Due to a number of requests to limit the size of incoming posts to the Lists because
      of the recently added enclosure feature, I have add a new filter that will
      limit the total size of any given message posted to the List.  I have initially
      set the limit to 2MB
      and we'll see how everyone likes that.  
      
      If a member attempts to post a message that is greater than the set limit, they
      will receive an email back indicating that their message wasn't posted to the
      List and why.  Also included in the message will be the current size limit and
      how large their message
      was.
      
      Some might say that 2MB is still too large, but its a place to start...
      
      Best regards,
      
      Matt Dralle
      Matronics Email List Administrator
      
      
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      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
      
      Hey Ralph,
                      I figured you could take a good "ribb'n" , some of the guys
      are just too touchy to even try....
           Drill Sargent Huh....not bad...
       I was on the "other" end.....RA
      
                                  Gotta Fly...
                                                  Mike in MN
      
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      --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
      
      I'm waiting with bated breath (well, I did have a cheap beer,  
      perhaps  making it baited breath) the imminent (or perhaps, eminent?)  
      grand entrance from the skies above Winchester VA, of his supreme  
      Kolbness, John of Hauck! Listserv-wise, this more than somewhat adds  
      polish to my already brilliant escutcheon.
      
      His previous visit to our quaint village here in the provinces  
      culminated in a Mobile Mansion goosenecked to a Fire-breathing  
      Diesel. This time we offer a pallet, bedded with fragrant new-mown  
      crabgrass, serenaded by our new neighbors' four miserable junkyard  
      dawgs.
      
      Welcome, Cur John..uh, that's Sir John.
      
      regards,
      Bob N.
      http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: New Incoming Message Size Limit Implemented... | 
      
      
      On Aug 6, 2006, at 7:49 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
      
      > Some might say that 2MB is still too large, but its a place to  
      > start...
      
      WHAT! ! ! ? ?  2MB ??? per message on a slow phone line???
      
      Sorry Matt,
      Totally useless filter in my opinion.
      
      How about 150 KB ?
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fuel tank filler line | 
      
      
      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"  <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> 
      Hi  Mike S: 
      To  transfer fuel from the can to the aircraft I use 6 feet of 1" OD X   
      7/8"  ID vinyl hose.  Can pick it up at  anything large hardware store,  
      or  try Lowes, Home Depot, etc. 
      Been  using this system since I learned about it from a friend who flew   
      an  S-1 Pitts.  Was walking by his  hanger one day, where he was  
      standing off from the airplane, holding the gas can up and   
      transferring fuel from can to tank via the 1"  hose. 
      Wish  I knew how much fuel I have transferred this way. 
      john  h 
      mkIII  
      
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      Hi John,
       In a week, I will also be taking a trip north to Fredericksburg,  VA.  The 
      last two weeks I worked at the John Deere factory in Des Moines,  Iowa.
      
      Regards,
      Will Uribe
      FireStar II
      El Paso, TX
      _http://members.aol.com/WillUribe/mv/_ (http://members.aol.com/WillUribe/mv/) 
      
      
      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" _jhauck@elmore.rr.com_ 
      (mailto:jhauck@elmore.rr.com)  
      However, the primary purpose of this trip, in addition to  visiting the  
      Kolbs, is the Rough and Tumble Steam and Gas Engine Show at  Kinzers,  
      PA,  about 30 miles west of Homer's.  As  some of you all know, Homer  
      has  been a John Deere tractor collector for many years.  Fortunately  
      or  unfortunately, the tractor bug bit me a couple years ago.  This bug  
      causes a terrible disease called "tractor fever".  It is incurable.  
      This  trip will keep "tractor fever" in remission for a short period of   
      time. 
      I  will take my lap top and cell phone with me, 334-315-2621.  Planning  
      an op  stop in Winchester,  VA, either on the north or  south.  Will  
      inform Grey Baron of ETA when I can confirm  it. 
      Hope  to see some of my PA friends while at Homer's. 
      Take  care, 
      john  h 
      hauck's holler (remote), alabama  
      
      
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| Subject:  | Kolb Mark III for sale | 
      
      --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
      
      Hi Everyone,
      
      Kind of a sad day. I will be selling my Mark III Classic. I am purchasing a Flight
      Design CTSW. I have truely had a great time flying my Mark III and it was
      my first experience with the 912uls engine. The 912s is the only way to go. Other
      than one minor problem it has never given me an ounce of trouble. If you know
      anyone that is interested then you can see my add on Barnstormers.
      
      This plane was built by Dwane Woods and his brother. Some of you may know them
      and they are excellent builders and pay a lot of attention to detail and spared
      nothing on extras as they built. This Kolb was 2002 Grand National Champion
      at Sun & Fun.
      
      Custom aerothane paint, BRS 1050 chute, EIS, ASI, ELT, compass, 
      G-meter, Icom 10 channel radio, intercom, Garmen 195 GPS, fused hot box, new 6x6.00
      tires, self sealing tubes, beefed up landing gear, Matco brakes, clear "D"
      cell, balanced ailerons, trim, G5 grip, 3 blade Warp Drive prop, 16 gals. fuel
      (3.5 hrs.), 2 fuel pumps, Navman fuel flow meter, TNK adjustable horizontal
      stabilizer bracket, full swivel tailwheel, Registered ELSA (N515AB), TT A&E 780
      hrs.
      $28,500
      If you are interested give me a call @ 520-574-1080
      Tucson, Az
      
      I will always stay in contact and continue to meet all of the Kolb people as they
      have been a wonderful and informative group. That being said I don't take delivery
      of my CTSW until Dec. 1, 2006. So until my Kolb sells it's time to fly.
       I will also keep you informed about how the CTSW flys. 
      
      Thank All of You,
      Roger Lee
      
      --------
      Roger Lee
      Tucson, Az.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52985#52985
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fuel tank filler line | 
      
      You're a better man than I,  Gunga Din. 
      
      Been the bilateral hernia route lifting tail of my 150C taildragger out 
      of deep sand at Salton Sea some years ago and too old to do that kinda 
      stuff now, even two handed, and definitely not one. Just ordered Petro 
      Pump, about $45 delivered. Comes with a four foot hose and 5 gal can. 
      May not be the best, but the best I can afford at the moment and don't 
      have a pickup for the 55 gallon drums I used to haul earlier and fill 
      wing tanks with a wobble pump.
      
      jsf
      Do not archive.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: WillUribe@aol.com 
        To: kolb-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 8:00 PM
        Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Fuel tank filler lineWish I knew how much fuel 
      I have transferred this way.
         
      
        john h
      
        mkIII 
      
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| Subject:  | Control Stiffness | 
      
          My ailerons were very stiff my first few flights when I first bought 
      my FS II. Come to find out a little lubrication in the "u-joints" 
      assembly on the lower end of the stick made a world of difference. Also, 
      make sure the tightness of the nuts and bolts on those u-joints is just 
      right.
      
      M. Domenic Perez
      FS II
      Vaughn, NM
      
 
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